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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Money Manager Josh Brown: 'ICOs Are Where The Frauds Will Take Place' on: September 24, 2017, 07:06:15 PM
Josh Brown, the money manager and bitcoin bear-turned-bull, had some harsh words for initial coin offerings (ICOs) in a new blog post: in his words, the funding model is "where the frauds will take place."

Writing on his Reformed Broker blog, Brown – who earlier this month told CoinDesk that he thinks ICOs will "blow up in everyone's face" – reiterated his position, citing the incredulity shared by West Loop Partners general partner Jeff Carter in a new blog post of his own.

He wrote:

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"Jeff's a friend of mine but he comes at these things from a Chicago floor trader – turned angel investor's mentality. I come at these things from a reformed stock broker's perspective. We don't always see eye to eye but, in this case, we've arrived at exactly the same place. ICOs are where the frauds will take place."

He blasted ICO-derived tokens as serving as little more than unregistered securities, stating that, unlike some cryptocurrencies, those pieces of data can only be used in conjunction with a particular app or platform.

"Unlike traditional securities sales, there is no regulation here. I can say that I'm starting a walrus sex ranch and that the digital token I am using to raise the capital will be good for two hours of sex with one of my walruses," he wrote. "You buy five of my tokens, because you've always wanted to make love to a walrus, and this gives you the right to ten hours of unadulterated bliss with my product once I've raised enough from maniacs like you to go into operation."

His comments come as securities regulators around the world more closely scrutinize the ICO model or develop new rules around them. Despite warnings from some governments that token sales may constitute securities offerings, institutional investors have moved in recent months to capitalize on the interest around them by backing dedicated hedge funds or taking part in ICOs directly.

Brown concluded by saying that, from his perspective, overall enthusiasm for the tech or cryptocurrencies in particular shouldn't preclude a degree of skepticism about ICOs, which to date have generated more than $2 billion in investments, according to data from CoinDesk's ICO Tracker.

"It's okay to be bullish or even bull-curious about blockchain and bitcoin without being a credulous, fanatical moron about ICOs. This is where I stand," he wrote.
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / [SHOPEO.IO] Fake projects , Scam or not ?? on: September 17, 2017, 08:43:34 AM
SHOPEO.IO
SCAM or NOT




BUILT-IN ESCROW

Because trust will always be a problem, Shopeo will feature a built-in escrow service assured by Shopeo itself. This feature will be mandatory for any new seller as well as any seller marked as a scammer.


BUILT-IN TRUST

Because people that scammed other will be able to be tagged this way. In fact, after a scammed buyer will be able to prove he got scammed, a Shopeo administrator will be able to get him tagged and reaching the bottom of any research.





Roadmap





schedules




Gold membership differs from the scammer tag in that he has not the same purpose, the first being the good sellers and the second, from its name, the scammers. But in the code part in the back-end, it works exactly in the same way. And search results are exactly the inverse.



We reached the soft cap ! I greatly thanks anyone that participated in the crowdsale, with the raised amount we will be able to pursue the development of a working prototype. 46 ETH will be enough for this, be reassured. Distribution of the bounties will take place in two weeks, at the same time than the investors. See you by this date ! Again, thank you !




You can now remove your signature, avatar and personal message if you can make an archive snapshot of your profile.

However, for anyone that took the initiative to remove its signature without notifying it here with a snapshot will probably won't get paid, as we can not verify you worn it until then end of the campaign. Your sole chance now is that I remember you.

It works the same in every campaign, you can't leave until you get a word from the manager. Some people here are doing a bit too much at their convenience and this is a total disrespect toward us, and I do not like that.


My Question

1 = What about the fate of investors ?
2 = whether the investor can get his money back ?
3 = if this is not a fake project, how is this project going ?
4 = who is the escrow service on this project ?
5 = why smartcontract is not verified ?



Bounty manager is myself, and I gave news some days ago. Counting is live at the moment and signature participants will know tonight how many SHP they will have earned.
3  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Press release VIP Bitcoin Indonesia tentang segwit on: July 22, 2017, 07:10:22 AM
Demi keterbukaan dan kenyamanan member VIP, kami dari PT Bit Coin Indonesia, yang mengoperasikan marketplace Bitcoin.co.id, dengan ini mengeluarkan pernyataan terkait isu Soft Fork.

Melalui press release ini, kami menyatakan bahwa:

Dua hari lalu, para penambang telah sepakat untuk mengoptimalisasi jaringan Blockchain Bitcoin melalui konsensus benama BIP 91. Optimasi ini dilakukan dengan cara mengaktivasi SegWit (Segregated Witness), di mana upgrade ini akan menambah kapasitas transaksi Bitcoin menjadi sekitar 2-4 kali lebih besar daripada sebelumnya. Optimalisasi ini juga bertujuan untuk memecahkan salah satu kelemahan Bitcoin yang dikenal dengan istilah 'transaction malleability.'

Proses aktivasi SegWit yang diperkirakan akan terjadi pada pagi hari tanggal 23 Juli 2017 (WIB) ini berpeluang mengakibatkan terganggunya transaksi Bitcoin selama beberapa menit atau beberapa jam, di mana selama beberapa menit menjelang proses aktivasi tersebut ada kemungkinan angka konfirmasi yang ditampilkan oleh wallet atau blockchain explorer akan menjadi kurang akurat.

Demi menghindari kesalahan deposit yang diakibatkan oleh peluang "cegukan" jaringan Bitcoin tersebut, maka Bitcoin.co.id akan memperpanjang masa tunggu Deposit Bitcoin menjadi enam konfirmasi (sekitar 60 menit) di mana sebelumnya adalah satu konfirmasi saja.

Perubahan ini akan berlaku selama satu hari penuh sejak 23 Juli 2017 00:00 sampai 24 Juli 2017 00:00. Pada 24 Juli 2017, masa tunggu Deposit Bitcoin akan kembali normal menjadi 1 konfirmasi.

Saldo Bitcoin yang Anda depositkan ke Bitcoin.co.id akan muncul sesuai ketentuan diatas. Bila ada pertanyaan/kendala, silakan hubungi tim kami di support@bitcoin.co.id.

Atas perhatian dan kerjasamanya, kami ucapkan terimakasih.

 

Salam profit,

PT Bit Coin Indonesia
4  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Melamar Kerja offline VS Kerja online. on: July 05, 2017, 04:24:10 PM
SYARAT MUTLAK MELAMAR KERJA DI PERUSAHAAN.
VS Syarat melamar kerja via online.

MELAMAR KERJA DI PABRIK atau PERUSAHAAN

1 KTP
2 IJAZAH
3 KK
4 SKCK
5 surat kesehatan
6 Pass Photo

NB : Daftar , datang sendiri atau kirim lamar lewat pos
Gajian : Bulanan , slip gaji kertas
durasi kerja : 1 hari 8 jam kerja.

Melamar kerja via online.

1 Username
2 Link profil
3 jumlah post terakhir
4 Rank / Level akun
5 alamat pembayaran ( Cypto ) .

NB : daftar pakai google form , via online , duduk manis di rumah

Gajian : slip gaji pakai spreadsheet google. lebih transparan

Durasi kerja : Bebas aturan.

pilih kerja offline atau online ?
kalau saya lulus sekolah fiks pilih online saja.

5  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Kenapa Naik Rank Bisa Cepat dari biasanya ? on: June 30, 2017, 02:08:13 AM
Selamat pagi semua , saya ingin bertanya mengenai Rank saya yang cepat naik .
awalnya kan memang Newbie ,, lalu setelah 4 hari langsung naik ke Jr member.
sedangkan saya baca rulenya itu activity selalu bertambah selama 2 minggu sekali , apa penyebabnya saya bisa naik rank atau activity mengikuti jumlah post , karena saya lihat punya orang lain yang ranknya sama tidak secepat punya saya !
mohon penjelasannya untuk saya yang masih awam di forum ini terimakasih.
6  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / System Blockchain di Indonesia on: June 22, 2017, 12:21:25 PM
Apakah memungkinkan jika system blockchain di terapkan di indonesia ?
system yang open source dalam semua aspek.
terima kasih.
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