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Mi casa, su casa. Treat WO like you would like others to treat you. Behave yourself and there wont be any trouble; piddle on the carpet, talk dirty or generally be obnoxious and you'll get booted out. Amended from adamstgBit fork : Wall ObserverA free service brought to you by the bitcoin communityWhenever there is a significant change in market depth, please update this thread with a new depth chart, and a good price chart with some TA is also welcome, feel free to comment on these if you have something worth contributing. Posting guide lines: Please lets keep this thread clean. ( I will be removing any obnoxiously off topic posts, thread-jacking attempts, smearing, scatological attacks, etc ) Some amount of random comments are allowed on this thread, but try to keep it related to the last wall update or price movement. Strictly no altcoin discussion unless it directly relates to bitcoin pricing movements. as requested, i have started a new thread. this thread is now a self-moderated topic. I will try and keep this thread clean, with only facts, current trends, past price movements, depth charts, etc. thank you for your input! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg1858442#msg1858442 |
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Mi casa, su casa. Treat WO like you would like others to treat you. Behave yourself and there wont be any trouble; piddle on the carpet, talk dirty or generally be obnoxious and you'll get booted out. Amended from adamstgBit fork : Wall ObserverA free service brought to you by the bitcoin communityWhenever there is a significant change in market depth, please update this thread with a new depth chart, and a good price chart with some TA is also welcome, feel free to comment on these if you have something worth contributing. Posting guide lines: Please lets keep this thread clean. ( I will be removing any obnoxiously off topic posts, thread-jacking attempts, smearing, scatological attacks, etc ) Some amount of random comments are allowed on this thread, but try to keep it related to the last wall update or price movement. Strictly no altcoin discussion unless it directly relates to bitcoin pricing movements. as requested, i have started a new thread. this thread is now a self-moderated topic. I will try and keep this thread clean, with only facts, current trends, past price movements, depth charts, etc. thank you for your input! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg1858442#msg1858442 |
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  I'll update as/when relevant. |
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and letting the monkey out of the cage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YQgp5FW7Z8Once you are out in the free bitcoin world there will be no-one to feed you ... but look around, the fruit is there for the collection. |
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This is a Holders only refuge where good, positive ideas, speculations and long term strategies can be exchanged freely.
NB: Zero tolerance for intentional disruption, excessive FUD, gratuitous bearishness, thread trashing or other scatological troll tactics.
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http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/16/02/17/1931200/data-written-with-superman-memory-crystal-could-last-billions-of-yearsResearchers have demonstrated a method of femtosecond laser writing in self-assembled crystaline nanostructures that can withstand temperatures of up to 1,000 degree Celsius and last indefinitely at room temperature. The storage method enables up to 360TB of capacity on a single disc. Data is written to a file comprised of three layers of nano-structured dots separated by five micrometres. The technology was first demonstrated in 2013 when a 300 kilobit digital copy of a text file was successfully recorded in 5D digital data by femtosecond laser writing.
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Sooooo, 'someone' got a matter that deserves wide interest and general discussion promptly moved to "Scam Accusations" side topic. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1105722.0 even though 5 legendary high-trust members felt fit to comment upon it. It is time to begin a meta discussion about how we deal with known bad actors from inside bitcointalk. Especially now we have clear knowledge of paid disinformation agents covertly running pay-per-topic-pumping schemes on these forum boards. We cannot tolerate knowingly harboring nascent scammers and paid shills in our midst. Would the moderator who moved the above topic like to explain who contacted him/her and if he was paid to move the topic by cypherdoc to do so? Here was the original legal document if anyone can't be bothered linking to the revelation. Judge for yourself if this scandal is worthy of general discussion? gov.uscourts.canb.532683.1.0.pdf
Inside that document the title will be:
California Northern Bankruptcy Court Case No. 15-03011 Hashfast Technologies LLC- Adversary Proceeding Document 1
Examine p1, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the times of the Transfers, the BTC transferred to the Defendant were worth $363,861.43. Based on the value of the BTC at the time of the transfers, the Defendant received approximately $11,370 per day or $2,274 per post on the “HashFast Endorsement” thread on Bitcointalk.org. By contrast, the highest salary paid to any principal or employee of HFT and/or HF was $144,000 for the entire calendar year of 2013."
Examine p3, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the time of the Transfers, the Debtors owed substantial sums of money and/or equipment to numerous customers and/or vendors. Many of these obligations remain unpaid and constitute general unsecured claims against the Estate. As of September 30, 2013, the Debtors’ balance sheet had a negative equity balance of about $5 million." http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2k5w2nwul/california-northern-bankruptcy-court/hashfast-technologies-llc-adversary-proceeding/Looks like cypherdoc siphoned 3000BTC off Hashfast while customers were pre-paying for undelivered mining equipment. The payments were made in return for his 'shilling' on bitcointalk.org in the HashFastEndorsement thread. So probably some kind of pass-thru, tunnel or quid pro quo arrangement to ultimately bilk HashFast customers, I mean $2,274 per post, wtf?! Edit: okay, I got a reply from the mod who moved the original post and it seems like he legitimately thought it was a scam accusation, although I didn't intend it like that. I think it is because the court documents show defense claims of $2,274 per bitcointalk.org post seem so outrageous on the face of it that the original post may indeed look like a scam accusation, which it isn't per se. |
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gov.uscourts.canb.532683.1.0.pdf
Inside that document the title will be:
California Northern Bankruptcy Court Case No. 15-03011 Hashfast Technologies LLC- Adversary Proceeding Document 1
Examine p1, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the times of the Transfers, the BTC transferred to the Defendant were worth $363,861.43. Based on the value of the BTC at the time of the transfers, the Defendant received approximately $11,370 per day or $2,274 per post on the “HashFast Endorsement” thread on Bitcointalk.org. By contrast, the highest salary paid to any principal or employee of HFT and/or HF was $144,000 for the entire calendar year of 2013."
Examine p3, pg 6. And I quote:
"At the time of the Transfers, the Debtors owed substantial sums of money and/or equipment to numerous customers and/or vendors. Many of these obligations remain unpaid and constitute general unsecured claims against the Estate. As of September 30, 2013, the Debtors’ balance sheet had a negative equity balance of about $5 million." http://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2k5w2nwul/california-northern-bankruptcy-court/hashfast-technologies-llc-adversary-proceeding/Looks like cypherdoc siphoned 3000BTC off Hashfast while customers were pre-paying for undelivered mining equipment. The payments were made in return for his 'shilling' on bitcointalk.org in the HashFastEndorsement thread. So probably some kind of pass-thru, tunnel or quid pro quo arrangement to ultimately bilk HashFast customers, I mean $2,274 per post, wtf?! |
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Just somewhere new and positive where free, enquiring minds can speculate on all aspects of these two great assets.  |
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http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/news/article.cfm?c_id=3&objectid=11462977 Washington Post propaganda pill. People buy Bitcoins because they think the price will go to infinity and beyond once everybody uses them, but they don't spend their own Bitcoins because they think the price will go to infinity and beyond once everybody else uses them. And so nobody uses them. I'm liking this new attempt at regurgitating the old FUD to manipulate the entrenched misinformation around the functioning of the monetary good, due to decades of indoctrination of the centralised fiat monopoly money. Seems like that's all they have left now.
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http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/rise-new-libertarians-meet-britains-next-political-generation-1469233Apps such as taxi ordering service Uber, which has drastically reduced the costs to consumers of a cab journey in the cities where it's used by increasing competition and evading bureaucratic licensing terms.
Or cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin, which operate outside of the realm of financial regulation and monetary policy frameworks, powered organically by a sprawling network of dedicated developers and enthusiasts.
In Howes' words, technology will "undercut a lot of the existing hierarchy".
There's one snag: the state will always try to catch up. The loophole advantage of legal grey areas exploited by new technologies is often closed. Uber has faced court challenges and financial regulators across the world are working out if and how to police cryptocurrencies.
"When the state cracks down on Uber, people see the state cracking down on a technology they like," Salisbury-Jones says.
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Is this for real? Says over $300k saved in banking fees in just one Urocoin transaction ... where we're going who needs bitcoin?  http://www.free-press-release-center.info/pr00000000000000278227_uro-completes-worlds-first-commodity-order-using-a-commodity-backed-cryptocurrency.htmlGreen Earth Systems Limited, Hong Kong (GES HK), a global broker of urea fertilizer, has completed the first ever trade of urea fertilizer in exchange for Urocoin (URO). The Urocoin, created and maintained by the URO Foundation, is a commodity-backed encrypted digital currency based on Bitcoin technology, also referred to as a "cryptocommodity."
On July 10, Rivaa Exports Ltd. purchased 25,000 metric tons of urea fertilizer, estimated at 7 million USD, from Green Earth Systems, Hong Kong (GES, HK) slated for resale to Indian Potash Limited (IPL), India's largest government fertilizer body for urea importation. The initial transaction, originally attempted in January 2014, was delayed for months due to banking compliance issues between Rivaa's local banks and GES HK's international banks. The use of Urocoin eliminated these issues and resulted in the completion of the transaction within days, thereby saving tens of thousands of dollars in fees.
"With no setup or banking fees and interest charges, RIVAA and GES, HK are saving close to $300,000 USD on this transaction alone," said Mr. Nilesh Nair, CEO of GES, HK.
To date, four major commodity suppliers have pledged to accept Urocoin as payment for urea:
1. Green Earth Systems Limited (GES, HK)
2. Urea Trading India
3. Crown Team Corporation, HK
4. CCL Pillay Group, SA |
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Trade imbalances that can lead to financial instability, crises, economic misery and finally warfare have been around as long as the humans have formed trading collectives, blocs and nation states.
A common settlement system without borders, or a indeed even a physical manifestation, has no ability to precipitate an imbalance because it does not exist, in one location or the other, only on the blockchain which is a shared resource common to the trading entities.
BitCoins not bombs.
Govts will hate bitcoin because it cuts them out of the war business, of course they will try to regulate it.
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http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/2013/12/31/another-lame-bankster-attacks-bitcoin/Another day, another banker, another ignorant jab at Bitcoin. This time it’s Steven Englander of Citibank, America’s third largest TBTF zombiebank. Mr. Englander wisely steers clear of attacking Bitcoin on the basis of made-up numbers, instead relying on rhetoric. He writes (and I comment) as follows: .... author's summary. Well, that’s it. Pretty lame kung fu, really. The joke is a banker who pretends to libertarian sympathies while advocating centralisation and government control.
It seems to me that banksters have assimilated much of government but in so doing become dependent on endless liquidity. With both trotters in the public trough, they’ve forgotten how to compete in anything like a free market. Naturally, they now want government to step in to outlaw their competition. That’s how monopoly operates, after all… What happens next will certainly be interesting. Right now it seems to me these guys have no clue what they’re up against.
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FAIL!!!! which part of decentralised currency sounds like centralised to them I wonder?
