I can't get these words out of my head... they've been echoing nonstop.

So, I finally reached that mystical place called "Platinum 4" on Stake - and what's wild is that I did it WITHOUT losing.

Over $1M wagered total. $240K wagered just this month. Grinding low-odds 1.01s like a robot.

And then... my VIP host sends me this after dropping the $1,760 bonus:



"Too easy my man" 🤯

Like sureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee - super easy!!!! No effort at all! 😅

Had to reply like this, just to release the energy:



Anyway - just wanted to share this moment in case anyone here has ever heard something similar and had that same “lol sure bro” feeling.

These VIP messages really have a way of making a 6-figure grind sound like a trip to the spa. 😂

Good luck out there everyone.

[What happened::]

What happened::

Stake.com presents this very clear message in their VIP section:
"Reclaim your VIP Host benefits by playing actively. Wager $50,000 within 30 days..."

Screenshots:


If you hover with the mouse over the 'i' icon there you would see this as well:



There is no disclaimer or condition on the interface suggesting this only applies to Platinum IV users.

Scammers Profile Link:

https://stake.com/

Reference Link:

Displayed on their VIP status interface

Amount Scammed:

Undisclosed - the issue is not a monetary scam per se, but a misleading system that tricks users into wagering large amounts under false pretenses.

PM/Chat Logs:

You can see the chat logs here in screenshots from 1 to 7 screenshots and also below in text:

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Conversation with Stake.com
Started on June 9, 2025 at 11:23 PM Belgrade time CEST (GMT+0200)

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11:23 PM | me: Can I ask how do I reclaim my VIP host now that I wagered $50k ?

11:24 PM | Nikita from Stake.com: Hi there.
 
 Thank you for reaching out.
 
 Allow me a moment, please.

11:36 PM | Nikita from Stake.com: In order to get VIP host again, you will have to reach Platinum IV.
 
 In case you have other questions, please let us know.

11:37 PM | me: [Image "image.png?expires=1749509100&signature=910c577a4485ee080a5306eae5db702af39a3ecab7cd15cda5153ce44ea95cbf&req=dSUhFcl3n4VbXvMW1HO4zTXJWlQ5jMjzG59mp1vyMKbwhUElCGZ%2BWiuokWup%0AwNIq9vFGSO8SJrLueRA%3D%0A"]

11:37 PM | me: This is from your screen, "Reclaim your VIP Host" - it's in the VIP window. I've wagered in order to reach it - please don't tell me this is misleading?

11:38 PM | me: [Image "image.png?expires=1749509100&signature=da1e2682c285a1b4e59e1175359db55874701fe9c7e19fb3c5ff03d6c146a3ab&req=dSUhFcl3noRXWPMW1HO4zUkPR7WJ7fkNZMmdpxwIrzRIEhCXv0hDsj9ukaq2%0AScnLW2%2F7S95DsCnwL6E%3D%0A"]

11:39 PM | me: Check what the 'i' for information states:
 Reclaim your VIP Host benefits by playing actively.
Wager $50,000 within 30 days, and you'll get back host offerings and perks.
You will also receive your host back if you level up to any level above Platinum 4.
 Note the language "You will also receive through P4" also - but it also clearly states black & white the option of wagering $50k.

11:45 PM | Nikita from Stake.com: Allow me a few moments, please.⏳

11:55 PM | Nikita from Stake.com: In order to have a personal VIP host, you must achieve Platinum IV rank.
 
 Previously, accounts created in 2020 were eligible for a VIP host at level 3 platinum. However, this requirement has been updated and now requires reaching level 4.
 
 We recommend reaching platinum IV to receive your VIP host.

11:55 PM | me: But I shared with you what the screen shows

11:55 PM | me: Is this information incorrect?

11:59 PM | Nikita from Stake.com: This information is not incorrect, it is just intended for Platinum IV users. However, since your account previously had a VIP host while you were still at Platinum III, it does not apply to you.
 
 You will have to reach Platinum IV in order to get your personal VIP host.

11:59 PM | me: That's not right, I was relying on what the screen showed

11:59 PM | me: You see it very clearly in the screen when you click on VIP, that's misleading

12:05 AM | Nikita from Stake.com: In the past, users who created accounts in 2020 were able to receive a VIP host at level 3 platinum. However, this requirement has been changed and now requires reaching level 4.
 
 Please note that the information on screenshot that you've sent only applies to users at Platinum IV. Since your account previously had a VIP host when you were at Platinum III, it does not apply to you.
 
 Hope this was helpful.

12:06 AM | me: I understand policies may have changed, but your VIP screen currently and clearly says:
 "Reclaim your VIP Host benefits by playing actively. Wager $50,000 within 30 days..."
 Nowhere does it state “Platinum IV only.” I wagered under the impression that this applied to me, as there was no disclaimer.
 If the intention is truly different, I’d expect the platform to update the message to avoid misleading users.
 I’m not asking for anything unreasonable - just what your interface advertised. Please escalate this to someone who can address it properly.

12:07 AM | ZeljkoNi from Stake.com: Hello there, I will take it over from here.
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Allow me a moment to check.

12:13 AM | ZeljkoNi from Stake.com: I understand your concern, but sadly, there is nothing that we can do in this case, you will need to reach the Platinum 4 VIP rank to receive a VIP host.
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We appreciate your understanding during this time, and if you need help with anything else, let us know!

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Exported from Stake.com on June 10, 2025 at 12:19 AM Belgrade time CEST (GMT+0200)

Additional Notes:

This is a very STRAIGHTFORWARD SCAM ACCUSATION.

Stake is scamming their loyal users who might think if they wager $50,000 within 30 days they would reclaim their VIP host even without reaching the next level but in reality - they don't honor what their screen is showing clearly, that's a scam and it's extremely hard to understand why they choose this course of action, instead of honoring what they promise in a clear cut on their screen.

Only after pressing them did they reveal this hidden policy.
This is false advertising at best, and intentional manipulation at worst.

BetFury previously offered us to change all of our users from WagerShare to RevenueShare, and we agreed assuming it would work properly.

These are our numbers for this month:



$45k deposits
$19k withdrawals

Net revenue is $5k (we'd get only 35% from it if we get that as well) and we won't be surprised if they will decrease it some more towards $0.

We have several issues with them:

• We asked to move from WagerShare to RevenueShare based on 50% RevenueShare, the affiliate manager we're in touch with barely communicates with us, replies once a week or so, and with very generic replies. We're not sure she's aware of what's happening with their system.
• The change to RS happened out of the blue without talking to us, we were also set with 35% RS and not 50% like we were promised before and discussed with our affiliate manager. She did mention the 50% is only for 2 months, but Ken, the old affiliate manager, promised a few years ago to set it at 50% for good.

You can see for yourself from February 2023:



and:



We didn't proceed to do that back in 2023 but remained with WagerShare for the time being, but were happy to consider it this year.

The current affiliate manager said the offer was valid for back then but if we run a new campaign for them getting at least 15 FTDs with 30% of them depositing repeatingly then they would honor this - and we did!

These results are devastating to us as faucet owners, because we rely on this revenue to pay our users, we already had to shrink our operations like CoinPayU in order to help users withdraw more and don't rely on higher thresholds:

https://freebitcoin.io/articles/dormant-account-policy

The worse thing here is the LACK OF COMMUNICATION.

This is the worse thing here because we have no open communication with our affiliate manager, and frankly, if they would just dedicate the time to speak to us normally and sort out everything it could have worked out perfectly for all of us.

We have no communication with anyone, we can't communicate with anyone, other than the affiliate manager who's barely available to look at 1 message.

In addition, these net revenues have been decreasing in an unexplained way 2 times and we raised it with our affiliate manager, one time it got resolved and the numbers in the RS systemt went back to normal, this time they didn't we're not even sure what's going on.

If it's a bug / glitch / error with the old users transfer we don't want to be affected by it!

Also the lack of communication is what we're asking for - open communication about what's going on ... these are YEARS, YEARS of promotion we've done for BetFury and talking to the wall instead of getting proper responses is what we want to be rectified here. This is not an easy situation to be in.

We tried to communicate, reach out to their support - their support on site is excellent, better than many other brands and sites, they reply quickly, but when it comes to affiliation - it's completely the opposite!

Their site support doesn't get involved with affiliation unfortunately.

We dedicated lots of time and efforts and never wanted to create this thread, we want to work hand in hand with BetFury but we're affected by all these changes in a way that is unfair towards us!

Waiting to see if resolved before posting

[Likewise - if there are solutions for this such as Paxful/LocalCoinSwap but with sites that work in Russia please also feel free to post here, that would be helpful as well.]

Hi there,

I have $104 worth of RUB in our BCGame account which we're using for affiliation purposes.

See here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5512308.0

Is there anyone from Russia who has an account with BCGame and can exchange this money to Crypto if this will be sent to you via a tip in the BCGame site?

Alternatively, as shown in the thread (link above) - there are other options to send that money as well such as SBRPay, Raifaissen etc. - will this work?

Need someone trusted, who speaks English (we don't speak Russian), and to provide trust for this exchange here in Bitcointalk, no scammers please, and only if you're interested please feel free to respond here or send a DM.

Likewise - if there are solutions for this such as Paxful/LocalCoinSwap but with sites that work in Russia please also feel free to post here, that would be helpful as well.

Thank you!

We tried to use several exchanges to withdraw RUB from BCGame, but it doesn't work ... it's affiliate commission that is stuck in the account...

Is there someone from Russia perhaps who's willing to exchange this for Crypto? Happy to offer 10% - 15% here.



The issue is there is no RUB exchange on sites like Paxful/LocalCoinSwap, as Russia is blocked there, any suggestions perhaps?

 

You bet 1.01 on Crash, you won... you wanna do it again but the numbers just keep on rolling.... it's 100x and you're still waiting for the next round ... then it's 1000x ... so maybe someone else might be rejoicing over these odds but all you wanna do is get that damn round to start already.

Do you have this feeling with this game? 

Should the Crash Developers made it possible for those who don't want to wait to start another round "without" the others? 

Crypto has changed the world and there's no doubt even world leaders like Donald Trump just mentioned its importance.

However, do you feel Bitcoin still creates excitement or are we beyond that pinnacle where it's no longer something to be so excited about?

What's your opinion about this letter?

https://www.reddit.com/r/gambling/comments/1b51kyk/dear_eddie_and_stake

 

[https://youtu.be/cEdhuL980zo]

As a team with experience of over 6 years running 20 faucets we wanted to share our feedback about this sleeping giant's faucet.
We've uploaded a new YouTube video about it:

https://youtu.be/cEdhuL980zo

Feel free to watch and share your feedback. Any comments are highly appreciated.

Anyone else has their weekly - auto/slow payout - "Pending" until now like this?  





First time it ever happened.
Of course there is no way to contact them.

Are there any providers who offer a reasonable solution to start your own sportsbook for a reasonable price?

Got $17 stuck in the account in Bitcoin, their withdrawal fees are $10, anyone who plays there wants this as a tip in exchange for $12 in cheap coins (xrp, bnb etc.)

[Edit Jan 9:]

Edit Jan 9:

Just mentioning you can also see the scam on Youtube in case it's easier for you than Twitter and it's also showing how many views it had a few days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zP_wKX-aYqY

Firstly - a scam in live camera in front of everyone!

https://x.com/DramaAlert/status/1744103940608720947?s=20

The dealer cheated here, and Eddie replies on Twitter saying "Card dealers make mistakes". WTF?!

 

Secondly,

Read what one of their users had to say:

https://stakecommunity.com/topic/84740-stake-in-2024-are-you-in-or-out/?do=findComment&comment=1880224

Drake giveaways were fake - facetime to iphone only users, mostly winners from Canada as always, rehearsed speaches and fake money spinning

Twitter giveaways fake - Stake has been caught giving out dozens of prizes to chinese twitter accounts created on the day of giveaway

Discord bonus buys fake - 90% of the time mods, kick streamers or friends of Steve and that other guy get picked, regular players sit at discord for hours like dummies

Bonus drops fake - i’ve noticed personally how $50,000 bonus drops were suddenly being “fully claimed” after 4-5 seconds, which would mean 10,000 players claimed it in less then a second, giving Stake team the time to edit post to fully claimed

Soo many other things that are sooo off. So my question is - if they feel comfortable doing these fake things so casually with $5 bonus drops and a few discord bonus buys, how far are they prepared to go to fill their pockets?

Is there a way to verify or "provably fair" the giveaways are genuine & honest?

Also when you see with their competitor a thread like this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5480517.0

How can you verify that "winner" is not a shill account. an account created by the site itself?

Where is the line of trust here?

Logan Paul cheated and scammed tons of people despite being famous and rich from Prime, how can you believe these guys are not doing the same thing?! Can these things be provably fair or not?!

 

Yes, it's the first coin ever created, but it's slow and expensive (unless you're using the lightning network which most people and businesses don't).

How come Ripple which is the cheapest and one of the fastest ones - failed investors since 2018 and never reached back to the all time high of $3ish and those who believed in Ripple got 0 yields and a slap in the face, and yet this slow & expensive currency is the holy grail everyone is talking about?

Do Kwon appealed the decision to extradite himself to the US, but it's only a delay because the appeal was based on not following the procedure in court and it's just a matter of time before he would get to the US, one way or another.

Look at Sam Bankman Fried, ever since he was trialed in the US, Bitcoin went up, the FTX token went up in value.

Luna Classic should be no different.

Once Do Kwon is in the US he would have to give up lots of holdings and control over the USTC and LUNC tokens, this includes burning (very likely) and other factors that could push up the price.

The requirement for this to happen? Lots of patience.

Stake your LUNC for 1X% yield (via Trust Wallet, Atomic Wallet and more) whilst the currency is gonna go rollercoaster until that happens.

What do you think about all of the above? Agree? Disagree? 

[https://youtu.be/7fWeTLaWhTY]

The event Stake had several hours ago was truly a ripoff. 

How can you promise $1,000,000 giveaway where you don't really give it all away?!

And giving away $5.00 only to those who wagered $20,000 in the past 7 days? $5?

Most users don't wager $20,000 ... let alone $10,000 in the past 7 days .... and even if hypothetically someone would have done it, risking $20k to win $5 is more than absurd. This is a borderline scam.

Feel free to watch a video reaction to the event here:
https://youtu.be/7fWeTLaWhTY

Do you believe the NBA, the NFL and others should be treated like financial markets?

For example, a line of 33, 0-0 at halftime, o/u 16.5 - goes 36 pts in the 2nd half for the full game.
A line of 40.5, 0-0 at halftime, o/u 17.5 - goes under for the full game 3-0.

Both examples are from yesterday.

Reasonably speaking, the 33 game should have gone under, and the 40 game should have gone over, but the oddsmakers twist the lines and thus if you can read that - you can profit from it.

What do you think? You're also welcome to watch more here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQODtyX7SeU

You can watch this video from 07:20 if you want to skip on the other parts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxty2XhTwVI

Basically it's very simple.

You take a currency that requires 21 days for staking/unstaking, then you deposit this amount in Atomic Wallet, stake it and then you can't gamble with the crypto you're holding.

The locking (staking) is done with one single click of a button, and it's practically speaking, equivalent to activation of self-exclusion on an online gambling site with a click of a button (and yet not all sites offer it unfortunately).

For example, you stake (lock) $200 of your crypto, and that's all crypto available for you - then you can't play/gamble/risk it for at least 21 days ... do it 15 times a year time after time, and you would be excluded for a long time.

The only drawback with this method is Atomic doesn't offer this on USDT so some "gamblers" might not like this idea because they trust stablecoins more than other crypto coins, but this is FYI.

Do you experience any delays depositing BEP20 tokens or BNB into your Binance account?
Just tested it with 0.01 BNB, it's not getting credited, is something wrong with Binance right now?

Other deposits work fine (e.g. XRP) but anything related to BSC is not getting processed right now.

Any idea what's wrong?