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BIP99 doesn't talk about "developer consensus", but rather
"uncontroversial consensus rule changes".
Obviously a patch in which developers steal everybody else's coins
wouldn't be "uncontroversial" even if "developer consensus" is
reached.
We don't need to ignore anyone to consider BIP65 an uncontroversial
softfork: we just need to ignore fallacious and unreasonable
arguments.
As far as I can tell, you are the only person opposing BIP65 (even if
you keep talking about "several people") and I would like to think
that you are aren't being obstinate on purpose only to make your point
about "developer consensus not meaning anything", but you are making
it very hard.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I coined the term SPV so I know exactly what it means, and bitcoinj
> implements it, as does BreadWallet (the other big SPV implementation).
No, you didn't. "Simplified Payment Verification" is section 8 in the
Bitcoin whitepaper that you like to cite so much.
> I'm going to ignore the rest of the stuff you wrote about "design decisions
> to lack security" or "cheaply avoidable lack of validation". When you have
> sat down and written an SPV implementation by yourself, then shipped it to a
> couple of million users, you might have better insight into basic
> engineering costs. Until then, I find your criticisms of code you think was
> missing due to "stonewalling" and so on to be seriously lacking real world
> experience.
"uncontroversial consensus rule changes".
Obviously a patch in which developers steal everybody else's coins
wouldn't be "uncontroversial" even if "developer consensus" is
reached.
We don't need to ignore anyone to consider BIP65 an uncontroversial
softfork: we just need to ignore fallacious and unreasonable
arguments.
As far as I can tell, you are the only person opposing BIP65 (even if
you keep talking about "several people") and I would like to think
that you are aren't being obstinate on purpose only to make your point
about "developer consensus not meaning anything", but you are making
it very hard.
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 11:01 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev at lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> I coined the term SPV so I know exactly what it means, and bitcoinj
> implements it, as does BreadWallet (the other big SPV implementation).
No, you didn't. "Simplified Payment Verification" is section 8 in the
Bitcoin whitepaper that you like to cite so much.
> I'm going to ignore the rest of the stuff you wrote about "design decisions
> to lack security" or "cheaply avoidable lack of validation". When you have
> sat down and written an SPV implementation by yourself, then shipped it to a
> couple of million users, you might have better insight into basic
> engineering costs. Until then, I find your criticisms of code you think was
> missing due to "stonewalling" and so on to be seriously lacking real world
> experience.
То есть, реальное число битталковцев серьёзно меньше чем кажется. Пример из последних:
), поучаствовал в делах сомнительных. И вот какого сервиса битку не хватает.
