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What people think about the KYC/AML/CFT security theatre outside of our social bubble?

The general perception of such laws and regulations is negative in our social bubble.

But what about the general population of voters?

Do they think these regulations (government and financial service provider's surveillance programs) are good for the good guys and accept the "nothing to hide" argument?

Maybe the majority of people think it's worth the privacy invasion and risk of identity theft (because you need to submit all your personal data to the financial service providers) and it is a low price to pay for government's ability to track criminals and terrorist?

Last but not least - "think of the children" argument. You don't want paedophiles to use the financial system to fund child abuse?

Maybe only paedophiles, terrorist, money launderers, corrupt politicians and tax evaders whine about the good KYC/AML/CFT laws and law abiding citizens have nothing to hide from the Big Brother?

(I am not proponent of the KYC/AML/CFT laws, only want to provoke a discussion.)

Here is the list:

viabuy.com
qck-card.com
PlatinumATMCard.com
Platinumbitcoincard.com
Fastbitcoincard.com
fastbankcard.com
gqcard.com
anonymousbitcoincard.com


Maybe the viabuy.com and qck-card.com are most popular, look for reviews online.

They are using almost same design (and the same backed), I suppose they are run from one group.

Some of the reviews (viabuy.com) from Trust Pilot:

I did not even received the card and I received a letter demanding to pay 132€ ! I called the customer service twice and hang me up! Why would I pay for something I did not received! FRAUD!!!

this company hides fees and they do not let you know about them until you have registered, then they send you a card over night. They are then silent for sometime and threaten you with debt collection agency without further notice, they take your money for no service provided when requesting to cancel your account " they say you have to topup your account now before you can terminate your contract extraordinary" NEVER TRY TO BE A CUSTOMER HERE !!

Do not trust, they have held my salary after receiving pay slips, passport and driving licence. Their phone number 0203 88 5 0005 states that you are calling out side of normal hours during the day and they do not respond to any communication via email. Regards how many times you email them. I wish I had read the reviews before choosing this company. I'm in limbo with no cash and no way of contacting this company...

STAY AWAY FROM VIABUY. No card delivered despite emails that claim otherwise. Nearly 90€ worth of initial "fees" that they will attempt to collect from you regardless of whether they actually deliver the card or not (these are hidden in small print in their terms and conditions and never explicitly mentioned during the signup phase).

Their customer service skirts around all questions and doesn't even attempt to solve your problems, such as the fact that they might NEVER ACTUALLY BOTHER TO SEND THE CARD TO YOU. Instead, they only parrot a clearly copy-pasted series of vague responses solely aimed to coerce you into uploading money on your Viabuy account (money that they will then happily take for "fees").

Combined with the generous "25€ per new customer" referral program, all of this raises suspicion that the whole thing may be little more than a pyramid scheme.

This is a bluffer bank!
A few month ago they asked me to send them documents to increase my IDV level,as for I've oversubscribe limit for IDV2, but I've load to card at least to 2.000€. In their T&C I can ask for IDV3 only when I load card for 10.000€!!!
Unfortunately, I 've make two bank transfer to this account and both of it were pending, when it's happened. They held my funds and always want from me new documents, because they can't accept previously one.
For one month of trying to solve this problem, I understand that this bank is a huge huge hell.. Their customer servis are sooo bad, they don't ask on emails obviously! When I try to reach them on the phone, it's like a circus, they always say and promise me solve it in a few days.
Now they held 1.350€ and 900€ of my funds!! I've asked they to send it to origin more than month ago, and still nothing. They are robbers! They stole my money!!!
Guys, never use it!

FBI can use this hash to find out your password and crack your account at another exchanges and websites!

Also they have your e-mail address. You may consider changing it or securing it!They may try to crack it!

Do not reuse your password!

If BTC-e become operational again you have some chance to withdraw funds before FBI to crack the new BTC-e website!

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