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Seems like the appropriate forum. I know this script inspired many others and now I finally have a cheap web host with "fairly good" perl cgi support. So I touched it up a bit, turned on strict, added some forms and tada: http://memslist.com/list/roulette.plTry out your martingale strategy (dual martingale supported) and see what the odds are  Sim will run up to 10'000 runs, obviously i can let it run longer but dont want to strain my host to much |
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Admin claims provably fair but refuses to demonstrate.
Admin claims many first, when he is none of them.
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People please avoid chaingames like the plague, they are a simple scam.
Here is how to operate a chaingame scam:
1) You offer1 magnificent turd for 0.01 BTC, look at how the stink lines rise and the flies hover.
2) You have bots buy the turd off each other pushing up the price.
2) Human> Derp derp derpity do, this looks fun I'll buy into it. now the turd stinks even more and costs 0.05 BTC (or whatever) for the next sucker to buy it.
3) Human> Oh no, Everyone just stopped playing after I made my bet.
optional, add a timer to speed up the scam:
4) Oh noooooo, the timer reset, no bigger idiot or bots can buy it off me now.
Summary:
Chaingames are very very simple scams, stop and for one second use your fucking brain. Why is someone going to buy a turd off you for 0.02 btc when they can wait for it to reset / start their own chain........
Ponzi's and pyramids are not gambling its a way to syphon money from idiots.
These long running pyramids...... you will find out all the success stories are sockpuppets of 1-2 people right at the top.
Chain Game Scammers/ Operators:
Do yourself a favour and ignore everyone of these people.
SlickTheNick - scammer.
thebearjew - shill for coin control (amazing how these 1-5 post newbies just LEAP into action 5 min after my posts, I guess coincontrol had to logout and back in again first).
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People please avoid ponzi's like the plague.
Here is the very simple description of a ponzi:
a) Idiot hands over money to con artist.
b) con artist pays (for example) 1% interest weekly on your investment.
c) idiot decides he wants to compound his investment so interest is never collected.
d) Ponzi operator runs off with funds when investors ask for withdrawals.
Or the Other Method:
c) not quite an idiot collects 1% interest a week and tells everyone how great it is.
d) The ponzi operator can do 100 weeks of payouts before running into trouble, they usually will stop when they stop getting new investors.
Now I know there are many people that make the following claim: The trick is to get in and out early. and they are one of the 3 types:
1) shills - they never invested anything but claim they did and that the payments WERE FABULOUS.
2) idiots who think they will be the first in and out.
3) idiots who were lucky enough to actually be 1 of the first in and out. Its the same as leaving your wallet/phone/camera with a random stranger on the corner of the street - yes sometimes they are honest but guess what, its terrible advice to give anyone and to claim success at doing so is just encouraging other idiots to invest.
Finally:
Ponzi's and pyramids are not gambling its a way to syphon money from idiots.
These long running pyramids...... you will find out all the success stories are sockpuppets of 1-2 people right at the top.
PS: Friends dont let friends order from BFL.
The List of Ponzi Operators.
If you take advice from these people your gonna have a bad time mmmkay.
yonce - a HYIP promoter making more than a passing effort in his scam (nice to see a committed con artist).
Min-btc - scammer.
120cycle - scammer.
naRky - scammer
multiponzi - scammer.
bmL - scammer.
btcmania - A very clever and persuasive shill. Defends ponzi's and their operators despite knowing full well that ponzi's operate as a scam.
BitDoubler - scammer.
ponzimatic - scammer.
CoinPayoff - ConPayoff.
Weekly_Ponzi - lol.
jontstaz - ponzi operator
ponjava - ponzi operator
greenservice - piece of shit ponzi operator/ con artist.
apsvinet - Scammer, liar, opponent of free speech, all in all a nasty piece of work.
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How has everyone been ? About to start catching up on all the new casino's etc. Also Im in a bit of a martingaling mood, what casino has the lowest house edge atm for one shot bets ? Also, Ive noticed we have several new poker sites - even had 1 admin email me regarding his. I am a big seals fan but i would welcome something with a nicer UI so if anyone has some reccomendations on which one I should check out first let me know, else Im going to have a nice day of grinding some free roll tourneys and PLO8. Also watched a fairly funny action-horror-sci fi: Iron Sky http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2130142/ last night. I see the epic backlog of pm's as well, dont worry I'll be getting to that shortly. mem is back ! |
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Cannot imagine how Inaba can show his face at a Bitcoin event and not get lynched, people must not recognize him. Half the people in the place would be MF'ing him down the hallway if they knew who he was.
These type of events seem to be exclusively hosted by next years known scammers. Last year we had Pirate, Gigavps (lol what a cunt but a brilliant shill), Bruce Wagner and even Matthew N Wright hosting these events. |
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I think people need to revisit the concept of provably fair.
First, lets give some examples of my gold standard for provably fair:
1: blockchain games that user the players txid (or another input they have no control over) and a daily site secret.
This imho is still as good as it gets, the entire betting history is public and anyone could choose perform an audit to verify outcomes.
2: Any site that shows you a hash of the site seed used for the next round and allows for users to provide their own seed or randomly generates one for them.
This is as good as it gets without a publically auditable db. Bonus points for no blockchain spam as well.
Now lets look @ 'Provable Results'.
2: Any site that shows you a hash of the site seed used for the next round and does not allow users to provide their own seed.
This is not provably fair, this is only provable results.
What is the difference you ask and why are you such a prick about these things site operators ask ?
Let me use my favourite game roulette as an example.
I as an operator silently observe the bettors and pick their patterns (red/ martingale/ singles/ whatever).
I pre-generate a huge sample of site seeds and client seeds (remember the client cannot set their own) and then cherry pick the results I want.
Say we had a player martingaling their bets on red, to fucking easy throw out 10 blacks and then insist they were randomly selected where in actual fact there is no proof of randomness only proof of result.
I have previously been to lenient on this and will be revisiting and speaking with casino operators who have (conveniently ?) overlooked this.
Flu meds wearing off, back to the tv and my heater.
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Avalon have been dragging their heels on sending him any hardware (and today stated they won't send him an Avalon but just some different 6GH/s device) so for the last 4 months Avalons have been pretty unreliable. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140539.msg2291673#msg2291673It would be in your best interest also of course. (Yes, I do not want an Avalon or an Avalon clone  ) Q> Whats an asic thread without Kano flouncing around like a big sook or demanding free hardware ? A> One where he already has been paid. |
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I'll start: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/140981376533?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 Only cost me ~18 btc  (maybe in years to come that will seem like to much $$$ but for now its a good deal). I made a fair bit of extra btc & usd recently during the crash while my account was locked out, my AUD was frozen but USD did not get frozen resulting in me buying 20k USD of btc @ $88 and reselling them @ $130 once the account was unfrozen. It nicely put me ahead on my plan to pay off 1/2 the house so I thought a 'little' reward for myself was due. |
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INVALID BBCODE: loop, probably unclosed tags
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Welcome To the list (WIP). Its been coming for a long time (to long), and now that have I have a little bit of holiday time spare I shall rework the entire list to speed up submissions and removals. This new list will be auto generated from a csv which will be compiled from a shared google document (WIP) which will be linked on the main thread to serve as a potentially more up to date list than this forum posting. I will enable key members of the forum who have outstanding credibility to update and modify the spreadsheet without my consent, 2 members with outstanding credibility and a constant presence come to mind: Stephen Gormick and Dooglus. Posting blatant lies like BitcoinFlush because your site didnt get added quick enough will ensure you are never welcome on this list again. This forum post is self moderated, please keep discussion on topic: new casinos, provably fair queries etc. Should you wish to contact me I am available on gmail and email on: mem.namefix at gmail.com |
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OK, it has finally hit the point where we are seeing 1-3 new altcoins every week.
For any other software project Id argue this is a great thing but for crypto currencies its a terrible thing.
First let me start by showing some good examples of altcoins:
* litecoin - not the first to add scrypt but most successful.
* ppcoin - a genuine innovation on bitcoin protocol.
Now let me show what I consider to be bad altcoins:
* CNC
* RUC
* TRC
* BitBar
* FTC
Russiacoin and Chinacoin are transparent attempts to make money of patriots and nationalists with more money than common sense (most of them). For a coin to be official for a country it needs to be officially endorsed, not made by a script kiddy and supported by a rabbid circle jerk.
TRC & FTC - Mere tweaks of bitcoin and nothing more. The danger with this coins is that the developer/s often do not have the skills required to do more than tweak the settings and compile. Should they come under attack (as TRC recently did) the devs may find themselves sorely tested until their breaking point. Every issue/ DoS exploit discovered in the bitcoin protocol is likely to be patched before anouncement or within the hour of said announcement. The much smaller dev teams for these altcoins have to race to apply patches and test them against their tweaked (sometimes modified) bitcoin client resulting in a far greater window for an attacker to abuse.
Bitbar - the most transparent "Read Set Go Mine Mine Mine Mine Mine *FUCK OFF ITS NOT A PREMINE YOU HATER*" altcoin I have ever seen. Same applies to CNC.
Novacoin - to soon to tell, being a PoS system with scrypt does make it unique to the rest at this point, whether its enough to garner serious interest is another thing. The few services that do support have tumbleweeds rolling around. Novacoin did demonstrate the issue with doing a semi private release first.
Tips for creating a viable altcoin:
* Be a competent c++ programmer.
* Innovate - pick an issue bitcoin has and attempt to solve it like PoS.
* co-ordinate the release, dont announce it in your little sub forum and then a week later to the rest of the world (bad karma).
* Set the initial difficulty very high, lest you want the same fiasco that CNC created with blocks being mined every 10 seconds by the devs. It should take a good sized pool 15min-1h to find your first block. Let the difficulty adjust naturally, dont low ball it for you and your early adopter buddies.
* Pre Announce its release, let people know its coming so they can be ready for it.
* Project MUST BE open source.
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DONT DO IT
The headaches Im seeing recently from the betsofbitco.in and bitbet.us fiasco's is crazy.
Site Operators:
* Start being more responsible if you wish to host these obscure wagers.
* Ensure the bet can be verified without questions being raised.
Players:
* Treat wagers like contract (which they basically are). If unsure of the wording request clarification and that the clarification be attached to the original wager for all to see.
* If you cannot get clarification DONT BET.
How these bets could have been handled better.
Betsofbitco.in should have selected X amount of trusted members who had BFL orders, any of them could able to provide photo and shipping reciept on recieval to confirm the bet. Also the shipping method should have been specified and it should have required a scanned copy of the shipping invoice to verify it was indeed shipped and not an empty shoebox.
bitbet.us - This site hosts a bet about perfomance specifications and fails to quote them anywhere meaning we have to rely on the most recent figures released by BFL before the bet was made. How easy is it to cite your sources ?, really unprofessional.
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I just caught a new advert on reddit for this game, looking @ the forums it was started ages ago but has either been sold or refreshed. The following css labels and code is directly stolen from satoshiroulette.com: * Green_Table_Background * roulette_table_td_small * mini_min_max_bet_red * mini_min_max_bet_black I play @ satoshi roulette a bit at work on the tablet so Im quite used to seeing those buttons on the green tiles they used, turned out it wasn't familiar at all but plain stolen. http://pastebin.ca/2373570Now more concerning than petty theft is the claim of provably fair splashed all over its reddit add without anything on the site AT ALL to show players how they can verify their bets. It may not be a scam but there are some incredible losing streaks on their log atm that Id love to see verified with a secret I already knew the hash of. Additionally they make the bold claim that they have the best odds but all Im seeing is a plain old euro table and nothing else to increase the odds for the player. Its one thing to copy an idea, but another to simply jack someones hard work on web design - the 2 guys doing satoshi roulette arent pro web devs but they work hard anyway, its a terrible shame to see some asshole rip their hard work off to use as his base. Welp its about 3:20am here in perth, I better get ready for bed, just caught this on my light night reddit crawl and thought Id send up a warning flare before crashing out. |
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So my account for mtgox was frozen (issues with OTP) anyway Im going through the reset process no issue there.
Except for the following: When mtgox freezes your account all orders are suspended, 3 weeks later after unfreezing they re-activate all your orders automatically and execute them with you having no control or chance to cancel.
Now I had to ask their useless support agent "James" the same question 5 times in an attempt to get a simple yes or no answer. Each time he would post a vague canned response and close the call. It seems "James" is allergic to yes or no answers and is only able to copy and paste replies from their support script.
Im just employing logic here but the only 2 fair things to do would be:
* execute order book as normal while account is frozen.
* wipe order book while account is frozen.
* pause order book while account is frozen and do not unpause/ freeze until the user logs in and confirms he wants his unfrozen orders to go active.
Instead we have the following fiasco:
* Freeze order books, wait 3 weeks and DROP all unfrozen orders on a market they were not planned for giving user no chance to intervene.
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So only 4 years into a 30 year house loan of ~0.5 million AUD and thanks to buying bitcoins at $5 and lower several years ago (and some well timed buy&sells recently) Im in a position to settle 1/2 the biggest debt I will have in my life. So Im in a slow process of dumping chunks of btc & ltc on the market with my goal in sight. Im currently 35% there, which is already enough to make a sizeable difference on my monthly loan repayments I was holding out for the magic $1'000'000 but then I realized I wouldnt know what to do with it, my only goal in this life is to build some security for myself and my family which thanks to bitcoin I now can. Should anything happen to me health wise, my Fiancee does not have to worry about where she will be living anymore or if she can afford the bills. So I will most likely end up selling 1/2 to 1/3rd of my holdings to achieve this, currently im far ahead of schedule and hoping to afford a nice holiday after refinancing the house One thing I have come to appreciate from doing this is market depth, when your looking to sell 500-800 btc you soon appreciate it a lot more than when you were trading with 1-10 btc |
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