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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / [BOUNTY] TIES.network - Business Platform Backed by Smart-Contracts on: August 16, 2017, 12:29:00 AM


This is the official thread of the Ties.Network bounty campaign


Spreadsheets have been updated. We plan to pay tokens early next week.






Twitter campaign spreadsheet


If you are sure that we did not find your tweets, send a report via
THIS FORM






2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN] Ties.DB FIRST DECENTRALIZED PUBLIC SMART DATABASE on: August 07, 2017, 05:37:34 PM
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We'd like to announce that our TGE is officially over.

Thank you to everyone who participated!

In total, we distributed 59 251 278,09 tokens,
and the rest 131 million have been burned, as promised.

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Our bounty campaign is done
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Local ANN Threads


           
           
           
           





We can finally present the video of Natalya Tokar's speech from the Stockholm Blockchain & Bitcoin conference!








As a business tool, Ties.Network is a decentralized social platform where business professionals can connect and strike business deals via smart-contracts in no time. The platform uses a trustworthy rating system, thus making sure all participants can focus solely on business and benefits of beneficial relationships, and leave the verification and trust issues to the platform’s integrated solutions.


As an IT product, Ties.Network is based on Ties.DB – a public, decentralized, and distributed noSQL database that allows to store huge amounts of dynamic data, and search within the content of the files. Ties.DB is a public, open-source solution that can be utilized by other dApps and decentralized blockchain-related projects to facilitate their entering the market and help them structure large amounts of data.






Ties.Network is a decentralized platform for traders, investors, developers, consultants and enthusiasts that allows professionals to find partners, employees and volunteers, sell their products or services, secure business deals via smart contracts, promote themselves and finance their projects. People can work individually or as teams to accomplish their objectives.



System of genuine rating and reviews (“crowdsourcing”) gives each participant maximum promotion opportunities, while also giving them the option to stay anonymity.
All transactions on Ties.Network are 100% safe and secure.


At registration, each user receives a default rating based on objective observations of user activity in the crypto-community and based on provided documents. The community will modify this rating, based on the review of the deals that have already been processed on the platform, through impartial and decentralized voting.

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 Key features of the platform
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Ties.Network integration of smart contracts into a business platform lets its users do the following:

* Trade goods and services
* Trade cryptocurrencies
* Hire and recruit specialists
* Participate in token generation events and blockchain projects
* Receive feedback for startups or token generation events
* Promote token generation events and network with startups

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 Ties.Network architecture
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Ties.Network, as a platform suitable for striking business deals, conforms to the following requirements:

* Decentralization
* Stability
* Anonymity
* Storage of data
* Scalability
* Open-source soltuion
* Publicity
* Profitability
* Speed
* Expansion possibilities

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 Architecture layers
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At high-level we can distinguish the following
layers of the platform.


* TiClient - client application
* Ties.DB - public decentralized database
* Smart contracts
* Blockchain
* Hyperboria Network

Users interact with Ties.Network from the client application TiClient. TiClient connects to Ties.DB and blockchain. Ties.DB is used to store and retrieve users’ data. TiClient and Ties.DB use smart contracts on Ethereum blockchain for financial transactions and to ensure stability of critical operations. All the nodes are connected through Hyperboria network to provide speed, anonymity and end-to-end encryption of all communications.


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 Ties.DB
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Ties.DB is a new-generation
decentralized database with the following
innovative interfaces:


* Distribution
* Publicity
* Resistance to the Byzantine Generals’ Problem
* Sharding support
* Speed
* Ability to store structured data
* Ability to delete data
* Query language with an ability to conduct
search using more than the primary key

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 Cjdns and Hyperboria network
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To realize the anonymity and privacy requirements, we use Hyperboria network. Cjdns (Caleb James Delisle Network Suite) is a networking protocol and reference implementation, based on the idea that networks should be easy to set up, protocols should scale smoothly, and security should be ubiquitous.


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 Node and client interaction scheme
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 Platform revenue sources
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Profits come from the following sources:

* Advertising
* Escrow tax
* Currency exchange

Income for nodes comes from the following:

* Placing content on the node server
* Retrieving content from the node server


Users must pay for storing their data on the database servers. That allows the network to sustain itself by making its support profitable.
It also prevents flooding the network with garbage or malicious data. But such a model of networking is not very popular at the moment.


For example, Jim (hypothetical person) signs up on Ties.Network. Before he can do anything, he needs to place a deposit on a smart contract "chequebook". That is his paid registration. For ordinary social networks, where users just have fun, such a step would have meant the end of our network - why pay for something you can get free somewhere else? Since Ties.Network is different in that it earns you money, we feel justified in asking for an initial payment and commissions down the line to help us continue offering you this service.

Unlike centralized competitors who get their revenues from advertising or from using freemium models, Ties.Network belongs to the community, so its revenues must be spent on developing and maintaining it. One of the ways of how revenues will be used is for paying moderators and for platform maintenance.


Thus, the profit of the project will be distributed to pay for key individuals who support the project. These are:

* Content moderator (who has the authority to delete content and ban users).
* Super-moderator (who investigates collusion between nodes and participants, manages the budget, and rejects, or fires, participants).
* Moderators (who arbitrate disputes).
* Technical positions that include Developers (who develop software for Ties.Network).
* Ordinary users (covering fair user expenses)

The platform will cover the users’ expenses of their fair use of the platform making it eventually free to use. Fairness of the platform use will be observed by budget Super-moderators. Since the platform belongs to the community,  its revenues must be spent on developing and
maintaining it.










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 Bitcointalk Newsblock
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AUGUST.
04/08 Ties.Network as a Solution for Blockchain Projects
07/08 Hyperboria Network as an Architecture Layer of Ties.Network
08/08 Interview with Natalia Tokar Business Development Partner at Ties.Network
09/08 Ties.Network presentation at CryptoFinancing conference in London on 7th July 2017
11/08 Ties.Network: Smart Contracts and Outsourcing
15/08 Think beyond technology, blockchain, or crypto. Think people
17/08 The System of Self-Organization and Motivation on Ties.Network
18/08 "We have published a full feasibility study of the Ties.Network and Ties.DB projects..."
22/08 Ties.DB vs Other Data Storage Solutions
25/08 Ties.Network, a Smart and Decentralized Business Network that will change the way business is done today
29/08 TIES.network prototypes
30/08 Ties.Network has announced its official partner in Korea — KRtoken.com.
30/08 Ties.Network versus fake reputation.
31/08 Alexander Neymark talks about the fundamental problem of the blockchain market's development

SEPTEMBER.
01/09 Ties.Network is the business platform for finding, collaborating and transacting with professionals.
01/09 One Database to Rule Them All
04/09 Dmitry Kochin, CTO and founder of Ties.Network, talks about the problems of finding qualified professionals and the data storage problem in the blockchain projects.
04/09 An international conference "Blockchain & Bitcoin Conference"
on the 7th of September in Stockholm.

05/09 "With us you can assemble a team of professionals! We focused on developing our contact finding technology..."
06/09 How Do You Trust Your Business Partners With Smart Contracts?
07/09 Alex Bausch is advising Ties.Network on the correct positioning of the platform in the blockchain space.
08/09 "Blockchain&Bitcoin Conference finished yesterday in Stockholm..."
08/09 Ties.DB is Upscaling With Unbeatable Decentralization
09/09 "Ever wondered why there isn’t a business network with internal cryptocurrency payment?..."
11/09 Meet the second member of the #tiesnetwork advisory board — Wulf Kaal
11/09 “It is an interesting and exciting idea to leverage the value of smart contracts and a return to business based on trustable digital reputations”
12/09 “Coinfox recently interviewed our CEO, Alexander Neymark, to talk about his projects...”
13/09 Instantly strike blockchain-backed deals with Ties.Network
14/09 Ties.DB allows users to create a sustainable income from being a network node.
14/09 Meet the third member of the TiesNetwork advisory board
15/09 Are you interested in finding out how Ties.DB works?
15/09 Our platform allows you to create teams and projects.
15/09 Another milestone reached — Ties.Network prototype and Yellow Paper
16/09 Check out our video from «Fintech Week New York» conference
18/09 "Meet the fourth member of the #TiesNetwork advisory board..."
18/09 Our rating system is irrefutable allowing you to find best-rated professionals, experts and enthusiasts in an instant.
18/09 "Create your project on Ties.Network platform and build a team of professionals..."
19/09 "Our Token Generation Event is in 2 days!..."
19/09 "Watch this video to see our CEO, CTO and business developer insights..."
20/09 "Ties.Network Token Generation Event is in 1 day!..."
20/09 "Read our instruction manual for tomorrow's Token Generation Event..."
20/09 "Our Token Generation Event begins tomorrow..."
21/09 "How to use Ties.Network TGE dashboard"
21/09 "Ties.Network TGE Instructions: Invest Securely"
21/09 "Our TGE has started!"
22/09 We are presenting the Ties.Network project to the World Blockchain forum on September 25th in London!
25/09 We can finally present the video of Natalya Tokar's speech from the Stockholm Blockchain & Bitcoin conference!
25/09 Do you need to get down to the nitty-gritty of blockchain investments?
28/09 Here is everything you need to know about running project on Ties Network

OCTOBER.
10/10 We have just gained a fantastic new partnership with CanYa!
13/10 There is a lot of difficulty for decentralized projects using centralized storage solutions.
16/10 Ties.Network is proud to announce our official partnership with CanYa
3  Economy / Games and rounds / [CLOSED] on: June 11, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
I have 100 mBTC and that is being held in escrow by monbux.

Rules are simple:

Bid any amount of bitcoin. The greatest bid wins - however, the person who makes the second largest bid must pay as well.

All bets must be paid at the time of making the bet, immediately after it. If your bet is not the second greatest or greatest, it will be returned to you unless you want to bid more, in that case just send me your new bet minus what you already have bet.

Just post your bid here in the thread; only a message with the amount you want to bid. I will respond with the payment address. I will keep a table of the bets here in the first message.

Minimum bid and minimum raise is 0.1 mBTC/0.0001 BTC. The ending time is at midnight UTC+0:00.

Happy bidding!
4  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Manipulating data with the bitcoin scripts on: June 10, 2014, 03:14:42 AM
It is late and all but I think I could not find these answers on my own that well. I took a look at the tx scripting possibilities and some fun things popped into my mind, but as of now I think it's not possible to get a chunk of data and compare the first 3 bytes of the data to the next 3 bytes, for example.

Am I correct in that and also in that it could be done with the disabled features such as splicing?
Are those features planned to be used on the mainnet later on?

That would allow for some cool things, to me at least... but the wiki page is kind of difficult to navigate. Is there a clearer presentation somewhere, like a simplified version with the functions and some visual aid? There is a possibility for an additional stack, what else... a manual would be nice. I guess the flow control instructions should be simple enough, for one, but I really can't figure out what kind of input it needs and from where. Some examples would go a long way.

I am sure some pretty things have been done with it, I would be interested in seeing a collection and some interesting scripts people have devised, even if with the disabled features.

Thanks for anyone who can answer.
5  Economy / Games and rounds / Lowest unique number [JUNE 2013] [PROVABLY FAIR] *UPDATE JUNE 9, PLEASE COMMENT* on: June 04, 2014, 07:10:50 PM
As I like the concept, here is an unique bid auction (with ESCROW and provable fairness!).

The rules are as follows:

You reserve as many numbers as you want to, any positive integer will do (1, 2, 3, 4... and so on). Reserving each number costs 1 mBTC (0.001 BTC). You can even reserve the first 1000 integers if you wish, at the cost of 1 BTC.

Make the payment and send me the numbers you wish to reserve. Just pay me for as many numbers as you'd like and send me a list of numbers, such as "1, 2, 3, 9, 10, 12". If you have doubts regarding fairness, you may instead of giving me the numbers, just create a SHA-256 hash of a string with the numbers you chose and a password-like part at the end, that only you know. Then, after I have published all the results, those who sent hashed numbers will reveal their numbers. For the secret part, do not use an actual password as you must publish it. This is not easy, but makes the game provably fair as I, or nobody else, will be able to tell the hashed numbers before the game ends.

Trying to cheat by editing you message with the hash to a winning one after the game ends will not work, so please do not try.

But when doing this, please pay attention: you must be able to give the proper string for others to verify it gives the correct numbers. You must also take responsibility for paying the correct amount. If you paid for n tickets but have more in your list, only the n smallest will be counted. Refunds can not be given as this would enable cheating. So please, make sure you can replicate the hash.
Those who publish hashes, will have three days to publish their secret string after I have published the non-hashed bets for all. After that period, you can not claim your winnings any more. Everyone who publishes hashes will be notified by private messages, when the three-day period starts.

The person who has reserved the smallest number that no one else has reserved, gets his money back and wins 80 % of the money others have put in the game.

Game will end on the last minute on June, UTC+0. After that there is one day left to send any numbers that have already been paid for and then I will publish the results for non-hashed numbers. After that, there is a three-day period to wait for the hashed string submitters reveal their strings. Stats will be published on the number of reservations while the game is still on; I think this makes the game more interesting.

Just send me a message with the numbers you want and I will send you the address where you can pay. If you have any questions, ask them and I will update the post under this one, that has all the stats.

As for me, well, I'm an old member as you can see, I've been on the forums for more than two years now and I have no intention to scam anyones money. I can also reveal my real-world identity to some trusted member who asks for it. Edit: I accept escrow, a trusted escrow with the nick monbux will handle it.

In short

1. Decide on the numbers you want to get
2. Decide, whether you will trust the privacy of the private message system and my honesty
 2.1 If you choose to trust, ask me for a payment address and after paying send me the numbers
 2.2 If you want to be cautious, ask me for a payment address but instead of sending me the numbers, publish in this thread the SHA-256 hash of a string that contains
       your numbers unambiguously, including a secret password-like part. Be sure to come back to reveal the string! I will PM you about it.
3. Read and understand the rules and wait for the results!

Why is it fair?

The game is fair because of the hashed numbers. They are published ahead of time and they are here for all to see. I can not know what they contain, nor does anyone else but the person who sent them in. Also, they can not spoof the bets - creating a known SHA-256 digest (hash) from a string that was not the original one would be an almost miraculous feat and if someone could do that, they would have better applications that cheating here. It is secure. I expect that the majority of the bets will be hashed, so that knowing the plaintext bets give less of an edge (that I would still not use in any case).

So, everyone's bets will be secure until the round is over. The game is simply closed after that. The unhashed bets will be published after the game closes but before the most crucial, hashed bets are revealed. I can't manipulate the result at that point when everything is public, nor can anyone else. If anyone wanting to participate feels this is inadequate, please reply to this thread and tell me.

Have fun you all and win big! If you notice flaws in the system, please let me know.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Selling CENT on: March 03, 2014, 10:01:22 PM
I'm selling some of my CENT for PayPal/altcoins. I'm taking reasonable offers for any amount. I'm not dumping it all or anything, I am keeping most of what I have so please, sensible offers. PM me.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Yet another referral trading thread, also buying/selling referrals (CRYPTSY) on: February 03, 2014, 03:51:50 PM
This is one of these threads. If no one referred you when you joined Cryptsy, add me: https://www.cryptsy.com/users/register?refid=26264

If you really are an active trader, I can send you some amount of your favourite altcoin too for it (some stats please, how big/frequent trades, you can PM also)
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What are the biggest public pump & dump accounts? on: February 03, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
Hi, what are the biggest (or any notable) pump & dump teams on Twitter or wherever they are? Not planning to go along of course, not that stupid, but I'd like to keep them in my Bitcoin links just to find an explanation for some things and just see what they are doing. I am particularly looking for the one who pumped Krugercoin a couple days ago.
9  Economy / Goods / What would I get for my Casascius coins? Silver 1 BTC/1 oz, etc. on: December 28, 2013, 04:59:15 AM
What are people actually paying for for example 0.5 BTC/1 BTC silver casascius coins (including ½/1 oz of silver). I am considering selling some I have. I'll give a better description if I'm selling, they are good condition, loose coins. What about a basic one BTC coin from series 2, 2013? I have seen the threads but they didn't help me enough. Feel free to PM with offers too. I will post pictures and stuff if this thread makes me feel like it  Wink I would not like to sell that much but I could use some cash.
10  Other / Beginners & Help / For newbies - Is cex.io a good investment? on: December 27, 2013, 02:00:36 PM
This is just something I wrote, because there are a lot of these threads. I hope it clears things up.

So, is cex.io a good investment?

I'm writing this post for those of you that are considering investing in the mining operation at cex.io. Many of you will probably be quite new to the cryptocurrency world, so I will try to be as clear as possible. First, I would clear this up; yes, I do use cex.io myself. However, I'm writing this because I know something about it and have experience with it, not because I'm advertising it. Neither I want to bash the service, I only aim to give a realistic view to anyone who is interested.

Cex.io is an attractive option for a lot of people who are interested in mining, mainly for two reasons: it is easy to use and you can start mining with any amount of money. You don't have to buy and maintain expensive pieces of machinery. Obviously, this comes at a price.

The first thing a potential investor has to realize is that cex.io is not a viable long term investment. You are guaranteed to lose money if you just buy mining power and leave it mining for a long period of time. You will never get your investment back from mining profit alone! The main source of income for cex.io users is trading mining power - buy low, sell higher. Almost like you would do trading with any cryptocoin, just that it's quite different to coins. For many coins, at least a lot of people are expecting them to rise in value as time passes. This is quite a realistic prospect for many coins, like Bitcoin. But at cex.io you are buying and selling mining power. This is totally different! The real value of hashing power is decreasing all the time and at a very fast rate. This is because the hashing power of the Bitcoin network is increasing all the time, at least for a long time from now. While the network becomes more powerful, your share of the reward, proportional to your mining power, will be smaller.

Take a look at the following spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiFMBvXvL2dtdEZkR2J4eU5rS3B4ei1iUmJxSWNlQ0E#gid=0
You can see how fast the difficulty has been rising and it shows now signs of slowing down. You can see that, for example at the time of writing this the network's hash rate has more than doubled in less than two months. This means, if you bought mining power two months ago, it will now generate only half as much Bitcoins as it did at the time it was bought, so it is basically worth only about half of that what is was two months ago. So, mining power will decrease in value very fast! From the spreadsheet you can see that the network's hashing rate has risen from 1.5 % to 4 % daily for the past months.
Let us assume a 2 % rise in hashing power per day. If you buy 1 Bitcoin's worth of hashing power today, you will get 20 Gh/s. At 2 % rise of hashing power per day, the reasonable value for your investment will have dropped by almost two percent also (not quite, but almost). But 20 Gh/s at the time of writing will make you approximately 0.0085 Bitcoins, less than 1 % of your investment. This is just to make clear that holding will not make your money back.

So, in short, unless you are able to buy mining power at a very good price, you can only profit from your investment by selling the mining power. Unless you are doing a one-off investment, you must have a clue how to sell and buy at the right times. So, you will have to speculate on the value of Gh/s and trade accordingly. This kind of trading is highly risky and the markets are far from being completely predictable.

So to be completely honest, if you thought cex.io is a good place to mine because you don't are not familiar with Bitcoin mining, then it is probably not for you, unless you just want to try it and are prepared for a loss. To be successfull, you have to be familiar with the market and know what will affect it. Difficulty changing, which happens approximately every ten days, is a usual point of speculation and the easiest one. There are loads of things that will affect the price, an easy example would be Bitcoin mining hardware shipments. I am not going to come up with a list, there are many things and you will have to familiarize yourself with all the factors. Even then, there are a lot of total unknowns. One thing a potential investor should consider is how does adding new mining power happen. I do not have the answer for this, but obviously cex.io can put more mining power onto its own market; to my knowledge they have not made any announcements regarding that, while surely that will push the price down and is information that should be available for the customers beforehand.

These warnings aside, it is of course possible to earn money trading on cex.io, but not everyone will make a profit. You should familiarize yourself with the market if you are seriously thinking of making money.
11  Bitcoin / Project Development / Bitcoin compo at a major demoscene party? on: December 24, 2013, 04:23:35 PM
What do you think about this idea:
Bitcoiners could gather prize money for prizes for a Bitcoin compo at some good demoparty. "Bitcoin wild compo" or similar.

I think it would be great publicity, lots of tech-savvy people there and potential users. Probably something very interesting might result from the competition, too. There was a Bitcoin stand at the Assembly last year, but a compo would be great. Big parties have quite some publicity. I was thinkg Assembly Summer 2014 or the Gathering would be best, both have around 5000 visitors. Assembly has lots of gaming people but also a strong old school presence, I think the entries would be interesting...
12  Bitcoin / Mining / Mining contracts thread - comparison, experiences, FAQ on: December 15, 2013, 06:21:36 AM
First of all, I realize there are threads about this but my search did not find any good ones. So I am now asking for real experiences with these contracts; which are most reputable, which ones are scams, has it been profitable for you and so on. I will update this message with relevant information. In case of scam accusations and the like I will also include who made those accusations, for transparency. My intention is to provide a summary here with relevant information.

Will mBTC tip good answers, too. Let's gather all the info on mining contracts we can. All experiences and suggestions are welcomed!
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Referrals trading thread on: December 10, 2013, 08:33:12 PM
So, while this is probably not the best thread ever, I feel it could be useful to many. A lot of people are newly registered on alt-currency exchanges and don't have referrals. Referrals can benefit both so why not!

I would like a referral link for BTER, so I can get a 10 % discount on trading fees - and you get 30 % of my trading fees. (both for 6 months)

Also, you can add me if you don't have anyone yet that referred you: https://bter.com/ref/85341

I trade actively, sums can be from 1 to 20 BTC.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / [WTB] Gridcoin on: December 04, 2013, 06:04:22 PM
Hi! I got really interested in Gridcoin, because it seems truly useful... I'm into maths so Primecoin was great news for me but this? Would anybody be willing to sell me some, preferably a larger amount. I don't know what would be a good price so you can make me an offer here or by PM. I can pay in Primecoin or Bitcoin.
15  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Can you help, need a chinese partner to accept Bitcoin on: August 08, 2012, 11:54:14 AM
I was dealing with a chinese partner but he does not know very well. Could you give me a link to a preferably chinese info site that tells how good it is for international payments and a trading site where you could transfer it to yuan.

Many thanks,
Jani
16  Bitcoin / Project Development / Looking for a partner that can code for a simple game website on: July 12, 2012, 01:17:05 PM
I have a simple idea for a website that is almost gambling but maybe not quite. It is a game where you can reserve numbers for a price of 0.1 BTC or 1 BTC for bigger prizes. For example, I could spend 0.5 BTC and reserve 1, 3, 10, 14 and 30. Then if one of these is the smallest number that is reserved by only one person, I win and get other people's bets minus the site's commission.

I can pay or offer a percentage of the profits for making this. This concept has been tested and is very profitable, it is more fun to play since it is not just a randomly chosen person who wins. Please post in this thread how much you would charge.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Need help to create an anonymous remailing service site (20 BTC+ bounty) on: July 07, 2012, 09:38:47 PM
I need help to create a site for an anonymous remailing service. I accept packages and letters and have my own logo, I just need a site for the site, Cryptomail. I accept packages and forward them, I just need a simple site that seems legit and shows all the info. My business is to accept packages and to forward them, anonymously.
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / [POLL] Your status on Mt. Gox and why? on: June 17, 2012, 06:28:10 AM
What is your status on Mt. Gox? I'm mainly asking because I want to know how many have really sent them the notarized documents with an apostille they're asking for. If you are trusted, did you do it voluntarily? Was the notarization costly or problematic?

I had my account Verified as soon as I started exchanging more since without sending that picture of an ID and a recent utility bill they won't accept euro bank transfers.

I started selling Bitcoins locally for easier and faster access and after about two months and maybe just two thousand euros exchanged later I had my funds frozen and they made it clear that I cannot access my funds without having sent them the notarized documents.
It took me a while because I felt a bit bored with them but then I decided to try. Well, I found that the nearest public notary was close, to the city center and a 5 minute walk. I got to the office where I first got a copy of my proof of residency for 5 € (Mt. Gox says a utility bill will be fine but they won't notarize those here in Finland, if no one's signed those etc, so I had to get that. I  then go to the notary who was available without waiting. I got a copy of my driver's license (1 €), had both documents notarized (4 € per page so that was 8 €) and apostilles for both (2 times 11 euros). So the price for the process was 36 euros which I think is reasonable (could have saved one still if I had photocopied my driver's license myself). But as they were made it was revealed, after a bit of thinking, that they could not add the required expression "Notarization for the purpose of Mt. Gox" because the form of the document is tightly regulated.
So I went home thinking this is the best I can do and contacted Mt. Gox to explain that the notary couldn't add ithe expression they wanted, wishing they'd accept them anyway.

The next day I got the answer: they will accept if I can provide a notary's statement about that the expression couldn't  be added. So, back to the notary's office. They were again puzzled with this request and finally the notary concluded that she was unsure about this and had to discuss this. The next day an older man calls me and explains that he has to think about this in the spirit of the law. A couple of days from that, I get a call that they can add the expression in the documents in the "Use" field and that they thought Mt. Gox's request was well-based. Good thing I didn't just send the documents as I would have had to spend another 36 €... Now I just exchanged the documents for new ones and didn't have to pay anything. About 1 hour extra time needed for this as I was in the city center.

So finally I got what I needed, but there was a little trouble. Anyway, I now have Trusted status, for 36 euros and maybe four hours of effort. How about you? Were the documents a pain in the ass to get?
19  Economy / Marketplace / Buying a phone call or SMS for Bitcoin? on: June 11, 2012, 09:57:20 AM
Is there any service that lets pay BTC for a phone call or SMS to a real-world phone number?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Making the work Bitcoin performs something useful? on: June 09, 2012, 11:17:10 PM
All right, I agree that Bitcoin is a wonderful and revolutionary idea. But the value it has, everyone understands it has some problems. Yeah, that hash-calculating solution is fine but Bitcoin could actually be valuable. It has it sides that the Bitcoin network does not work for any specific purpose than itself, but I think it could be used for something.

What is the work that miners do? They try to get a suitable SHA-hash from some random block so that it at the average requires a certain amount of work. But this work, this hashing, has no use to anybody.
It is as if I was to lift a rock ten thousand times and then get a certificate for doing it that I can exchange with others (peers could be watching me to confirm that I lift the rock 10000 times and get a little share for the confirmation effort).

Would it be too hard to set the goal of Bitcoin miners to be something different? I could imagine number-theoretic investigations, for example (even finding larger primes would be more useful). Proof of work would be harder, but doable.

I bet there's a lot of scientific/useful computing that could be turned into some kind of a goal like finding a block is. I could very well buy Bitcoins, if I knew the money was going to making progress towards a mathematical conjecture or modeling something suitable.

So, any comments? If people could just rent their computers like that, it would make the computing capacity of the world a lot greater - why waste expensive CPUs and GPUs and what else. Is there any project aimed towards this or reasonable discussion you can point me to?
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