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1  Economy / Economics / Is the economy situation in your country that bad? on: October 16, 2016, 09:07:59 AM
It seems there are bad news all around with doom and gloom. Trade figures going down, jobs cuts, security situation not going well, and bad loans.

Is the economy situation in your country that dismal? Or this is just some fear mongering?

2  Economy / Exchanges / Question on Paypal chargebacks: Then how did Virwox survive chargebacks? on: October 02, 2016, 03:22:25 PM


If Virwox can survive bitcoin sales chargebacks when they are selling high volumes of bitcoins via Paypal, why can't other Paypal users survive chargebacks? The common argument is that Virwox charges very high fees. But high fees has no link with whether Paypal terminates its working relationship with Virwox.

Is it because Virwox is based in Austria and its local Paypal office has different sets of legislation to follow?
3  Economy / Service Discussion / A new p2p lending site? Bitconnect.co on: October 02, 2016, 02:24:46 AM
I was reading up on p2p lending and i saw the site https://bitconnect.co listed on top of my google search listings and the site paid for the ad to appear on top of the listings (means it has the funding to advertise on adwords)

The site's header say "Build trust and reputation in bitcoin ecosystem with Open-source platform."

Its introduction page describes itself as a one stop solution for all bitcoin services ranging from lending, trading to e-commence stores: https://bitconnect.co/learning-center/1/what-is-bitconnect/

Anyone heard of it and tried its service?
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Cheating a Bitcoin Cheater on eBay/Paypal. on: September 29, 2016, 06:40:29 PM
This is a funny read on how the scammers were gamed with zero-fee transactions. It was an experiment that proves to be a success? Gaming the scammers? But also proved the skewed Paypal is always on the buyers' side.




http://forklog.net/revealed-cheating-a-bitcoin-cheater-on-ebay/

Online scams and fraud are increasing every day and, sadly enough this activity often includes cryptocurrencies. Moreover, fraud is not about the darknet only, one can be cheated on trusted sites like eBay as well.

Oleg Khovayko, CTO of Emercoin, shared with ForkLog one such instance along with a simple way to give scammers a good lesson.

If you check Bitcoin price at eBay, you will see something really extraordinary: it is nearly 50% higher than the average market price. For instance, if the current Bitcoin price is around $600, on eBay it will be close to $800. One might think of a great speculation opportunity – just buy bitcoins at an exchange and sell them on eBay with huge profit of 40 per cent a week which is an average item time. Dreams come true!

But, as it often turns out, the only free cheese is in the mousetrap, and chances are high you don’t see something bigger. What we actually see is a fraud scheme that works as follows:

1. You post an item (Bitcoin in this case) on sale.
2. The scammer buys it from you and sends money to your PayPal account.
3. You send the bitcoins to the scammer.
4. The next day, the scammer opens a PayPal dispute regarding an “unauthorized transaction”.
5. PayPal contacts you requesting the tracking number of the item sent.
6. You provide them with the Bitcoin TXID and the buyer’s affirmative response.
7. PayPal ignores your evidence and, for reasons only they know, makes one of two decisions:
7.1. Unauthorized transaction is not proven, so you keep the money. This way, you have successfully sold your bitcoin.
7.2. The transaction is considered unauthorized, and PayPal sends the money back to to the scammer who now has both his own money and your bitcoin. And all you have now is the negative feedback rating.

As we can see, it’s nearly a safe game for scammers: they either buy bitcoins from you (at a higher price, though), or they take them for free.

Just to have some fun and at the same time in order to test Bitcoin for deliberate double spending via manipulating priorities of block additions, Emercoin experts have designed and tested a counter-strategy ensuring you 100 per cent sell bitcoins to Ebay scammers at a higher price.

To be honest, we have experimented with this only twice, yet our assumptions were fully proven. After that we stopped researching the topic as it no longer interested us. And certainly we took measures so that tricks like this wouldn’t work in Emercoin.

However, people kept on asking, so below is our counter-strategy in detail. It is all about the artificial double spending to get your bitcoins back. So, this is how you cheat the cheater on eBay.

1.You post an item (bitcoins) for sale. We tested 0.1 BTC, so that’s the recommended amount.
2. The scammer buys the item from you and sends money to your PayPal (so far everything is going according to his plan).
3. You create a backup of your bitcoin wallet, wallet.dat.
4. You send bitcoins to the scammer with zero fee on any business day.
5. The zero-fee transaction normally freezes in pools awaiting confirmations. It might take several days.
6. The next day, the scammer opens the “unauthorized transaction” dispute.
7. If the transaction is still not confirmed (i.e. it’s not on the blockchain), you have almost won. And since the PayPal transaction is not authorized, the payee is not entitled to receive your bitcoins. And that’s what you do next:
8. You check the wallet outputs used for the payment to the scammer (for instance, on blockchain.info).
9. You recover the wallet.dat file stored as a backup. It, of course, has no information about the transaction to the scammer, while the UTXO outputs it employed look unspent.
10. Using transaction control, you spend the same outputs (actually, one will be enough, but you may use all of them just to be on the safe side) to create a transaction sending the same bitcoins to yourself or any other trusted address. And this is where you don’t have to be greedy about the fees, be as generous as you can.
11. After receiving the second transaction with a higher fee (and, consequently, with a higher priority) miners will be happy to add it to the blockchain. Now blockchain contains a transaction (see item 10), while the unconfirmed transaction (see item 4) causes conflicts and never makes it to the blockchain. Furthermore, even if the scammer has already spent the money, his spendings are now in conflict as well, and more problems with his counterparties are guaranteed. As a result, you have your bitcoins and turn the tables with the scammer.
12. In such a manner, if PayPal acknowledges the transaction is not authorized and repays the scammer, you still keep your bitcoins. However, if PayPal says “the unauthorized transaction is not proven”, you have the scammer’s money while still keeping your bitcoins.

We’ve run two experiments by selling two 0.1 BTC items on eBay, and we’ve seen both responses from PayPal. One of the scammers opened a dispute a week after the purchase and was reimbursed by PayPal. However, the other scammer faced the music: he paid the money without getting bitcoins.

Eventually, we managed to sell bitcoins at the eBay price and proved our counter-strategy successful. Also we proved vulnerability of the Bitcoin priority queue.

We do not recommend the aforementioned counter-strategy for profit-making. Even if you succeed, PayPal will soon close your account as the one that causes constant troubles.

5  Other / Meta / Two factor authentication. on: September 29, 2016, 01:31:56 PM
Will BCT consider two factor authentication for its members?

It may not neccessarily be google authenticator or SMS but perhaps a special code that will be sent through email?

6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Practical use of Ethereum. on: September 28, 2016, 05:36:15 AM
I was looking at Poloniec margin lending feature and i have a wild thought:

Is it possible to lend bitcoins at Poloniex and use Eth contract to enforce poloniex to return the loaned bitcoins automatically to my bitcoin address 30 days later?
7  Other / Meta / Is there a better way to manage our private messages? on: September 27, 2016, 12:00:29 PM
I am talking to a couple of members in PMs and the to-and-fros are getting messy and I missed some messages. Can anyone give suggestions how to manage this? The forum functions seems quite limited in this aspect. Sad
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Most common mistakes of amatuer Bitcoin sellers on: September 26, 2016, 10:20:02 AM
A friend sent me this earlier. Worth a read because it contains good advice.


http://www.844bankbtc.com/bitcoin-selling-mistakes/

Most common mistakes of amatuer Bitcoin sellers

Every day amateur bitcoin sellers post on one of the bitcoin forums about how they were trying to sell bitcoin and got scammed. These amateur sellers are commonly known as “windowlickers“. They lose their money, their bitcoin and still consider themselves smart enough to make money with bitcoin. The fact is most sellers lose more money than they make.

Here is the list of the most common mistakes amateurs make.

Selling bitcoin they can’t afford to lose. People often come into the forums talking about how they were scammed and now cannot pay bills. If you can’t afford to pay bills you shouldn’t be trading bitcoins. Even the best traders get scammed so plan to lose money.

Charging to little. Those profits are what keep you in business when prices fluctuate or you get scammed. Lower your prices to undercut your competition and you are cutting your own throat.

Accepting PayPal as a payment method. Yes, some people accept PayPal but they have a ton of experience and know tricks you don’t. If you accept Paypal you will get scammed, you will lose money and Paypal will come after you. Paypal can even take the money back out of your bank account and send you to collections/ruin your credit

Thinking PayPal friends and family is not reversible. Yes, it is reversible. If you search the trading forums you will find many windowlickers that have been scammed trying that. Then when you get scammed Paypal will look into your account. Paypal is smart enough to know that you don’t have hundreds of friends and family around the country sending you thousands of dollars. Your account will be frozen and you won’t be able to withdraw any money for 3-6 months. For the record EVERY form of Paypal payments are reversible.

Believing that anything you can say will help you win a Paypal dispute. Paypal doesn’t care what windowlickers say. The guarantee the buyers will be safe, not the sellers (it is in the Paypal terms that they don’t protect people selling bitcoin or other “digital goods and intagible items”) If the windowlickers were smart enough to win their dispute they wouldn’t have been accepting Paypal in the first place.
Taking Venmo/Skrill/Neteller. These suffer the same chargeback issues as Paypal but at a MUCH higher rate because they are even more infested with scammers than Paypal is.

Believing a website/forum can help and/or protect them.  Websites like LocalBitcoins and Paxful do what they can but they are understaffed and their primary concern is making money, not settling disputes or answering support tickets. The forums are full of other people just as clueless as you that have no power over the website. Understand you are on your own and expect 2-5 business days for a reply from support. Be prepared that the replies you get may not actually help you.

Believing reload cards like gift cards or reload cards are safe. They can be reversed and scammers do it all the time. Paypal MyCash cards and Amazon are the worst. There are also a lot of scams that will get your accounts shut down after the card has been loaded, you banned and a mark on your credit. Any money stored in the account will be locked and you will never see it again.

Trying to get cash off of reloadable or prepaid cards. Reloadable and prepaid cards are made to put cash on and then spend like a credit card. The way the card companies see it is that only idiots and money launderers try to put cash in and then take cash back out. This is one of the more common mistakes of an amateur and often causes accounts to be banned.

Releasing bitcoins without cash/payment being fully in your possession. Remember, most consumer based payment methods can be reversed.

Selling out of escrow. Hopefully you don’t really need an explanation why this is stupid.

Giving out personal information like bank account numbers or their phone number. There are tons of scams that use these. The professional sellers that do give this information out have safety features on their accounts to protect them.

Believing cash deposits are safe –  There are a number of scams that target bank accounts. These often end up with the police investigating the owner of the account and the bank’s banning the owner from their system (regardless of who is at fault).

Accepting credit cards. These are the easiest scammed of all because credit cards automatically default for the owner of the card and its up to the retailer/seller to prove that the purchase was one the card company approves of.

Believing that if a seller requires a photo ID they will be protected. Photo IDs that will fool police are easily bought online. Even if it is a real ID, most services do not care when they find out that the transaction involved bitcoin and will chargeback against the seller.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / This is why Bitcoin P2P lending is dead. on: September 24, 2016, 09:51:39 AM
I forgot I had some coins put away in a bitcoin lending site to try P2P lending. This is what I see when I logged in to see my "investments"

Four pages of red glory. I stopped clicking after page 4. Brilliant.







10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / How do you find out the optimal network fee for transaction? on: September 20, 2016, 02:53:16 PM
Is the BTC network under attack? I am asking this because transactions are taking very long to get one confirmation these 2 days. The speed of the transaction is also dependent on network fees and it varies.

Is there an optimal network fee or a website I could find reference to the latest network fee?
11  Economy / Investor-based games / New U.S registered site - PowerBTC.com - let you earn 10% above mkt price. on: September 12, 2016, 08:49:51 AM
I saw this site powerbtc.com in a PR this morning. They listed a U.S address

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1340 Avenue Of The Americas
New York, NY 10019
USA
Phone:+1 (917) 979-2728
Fax: +1 (917) 979-2728

Quote
Domain registration info:
Registrant Name: Mike Hamble
Registrant Organization: Power BTC LLC.
Registrant Street: silmonte 13  
Registrant City: New York
Registrant State/Province: New York
Registrant Postal Code: 100016
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.3326168357
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: pentruvps23@gmail.com

This site claims to allow BTC sellers to profit 10% above the current market price by reselling the Bitcoins to buyers in middle east. You simply need either a bank account, WU or Paypal. The site claims no registration is required and it is anonymous.

You simply click on let's say Paypal button, a receiving address will pop up and you need to key in your receiving Paypal address.

I have not tried this service yet.

I found one potential problem with the site:

(1) The receiving address that was generated and presented to you to send your funds to is not unique. I looked through blockchain for that address and realised it is a recycled address. How could the site knows that you are the one who deposited the funds?


12  Economy / Economics / Are Bitcoin lovers in their own bubble? on: September 03, 2016, 07:43:09 AM
Maybe, Bitcoins won't get accepted. Or it is the beginning of the end for Bitcoins. But since we are in a bitcoin oriented forum, we are just echo chambering one another because we love bitcoins and we want to see it rise in value so we can profit?

Just playing the devil's advocate.  Grin
13  Economy / Service Discussion / Cointelegraph is promoting scammers on: September 01, 2016, 06:22:15 PM
Cointelegraph is promoting scammers through ads --- biteminers and some others. Should a decently reputable btc news site do some vetting of their advertisers?


14  Economy / Economics / When was the last time Bitcoin prices have remain stagnant & peaceful for 3 wks? on: August 31, 2016, 03:08:15 PM
Is this the norm or a bad sign?
15  Economy / Service Discussion / Legitimate load BTC to Credit Card service? on: August 28, 2016, 03:25:16 PM
I have a bank issued credit card. Every month, I have to make payments do the card on the due date. Is there a proper legit service where I could load BTC and it could be used to make payment for my credit card?

i.e:

Load BTC --> Service Provider --> Credit Card --> Credit card Payment done

Under normal circumstances, I would sell BTC for my local currency at about 4% - 6% loss from the spot price, then use it to pay off my card statement.

if there is a service that charges less than 5%, why not?

Is this logical?
16  Economy / Exchanges / [New Feature?] Bitcoin.com allows you to buy BTC with credit card! on: August 28, 2016, 03:16:26 PM
New feature: https://buy.bitcoin.com/

BTC to the mainstream! Smiley

Fees wise:

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Please note that additional fees will be charged, on top of the above
Bitcoin / $ rate at checkout. Those fees are as follows:
- Bitcoin.com 2.5%
- Credit card processing by Simplex 5% ($10 minimum)

Payment processor: Simplex. This sucks.

The bad about Simplex CC gateway: They think you are a fraud if you are not based in U.S. And if transaction goes through, banks charges you for Cash Advance (incurs additional fees)

17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / If one day BTC cannot be traded for cash, what will you do? on: August 27, 2016, 07:22:22 PM
I will spend all my bitcoins on Purse.io.

 Cheesy  Cheesy
18  Economy / Economics / Federal Reserves adjusting interest rates - Implications for BTC? on: August 26, 2016, 02:23:08 AM
What are the implications for BTC prices when Federal interest rate changes? Any precedents?
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Big Banks are researching the usage of private Block Chains, and not Ethereum's on: July 24, 2016, 05:14:32 AM
I have been reading how the concept of Ethereum could fuel the future technology needs such as smart contracts. But i came across an article that assessed how such technology could be used by banks but they will be having their internal private blockchain, and not attached to public ones.

Ethereum is essentially a massive research project that paved the way. Eventually, big organisations will be using Ethereum concept for their own needs by setting up private blockchains.

http://qz.com/730004/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ethereum-hard-fork/

20  Other / Meta / Ticker to show latest BTC price? on: July 22, 2016, 06:08:27 PM
Hi. I wonder if the forum administrators could add a ticket that shows the latest BTC price? Smiley
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