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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / What *is a Hardfork ? Defintion Of. and why BU is NOT a HardFork on: March 20, 2017, 02:53:38 AM
Some posters challenged my earlier thread "No Hardfork will happen" by saying "How can BUCoin be listed as an Altcoin if there is no HardFork ?"

This makes it clear that some people have no idea what a "HardFork" is.

The definition from the Bitcoin Wiki - https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Hardfork

"A hardfork is a change to the bitcoin protocol that makes previously invalid blocks/transactions valid, and therefore requires *all users to upgrade."

Since the exchanges have clearly stated that *if BUCoin gains sufficient client support for them to list it- (*and they make add support to prevent replay spends, which seems unlikely at this point), then it will be listed as an Alt-Coin (BTU), and Bitcoin-Core will continue to be listed and operated (as BTC) with no-changes.

This means that BU (if activated) is *not a hard-fork.   It is an Alt-Coin.  Existing BTC users can completely ignore it, and continue on using BTC as normal, regardless of whether it reaches 51%, 75% or whatever.  

There is *no requirement for *everyone to move over to BU (or be left-behind on an inactive chain), as would be the case if an *actual HardFork happened and took-over the main BTC chain.

The BU Supporters and Fudsters hoped to replace BTC-Core by force of majority mining hashpower, and would like you to believe that they will do so - but it *isnt going to happen.

So to reiterate -

BU is at *best (IF they gain support by implementing Replay Prevention) going to be an Alt-Coin.  It is *not a HardFork.  
Feel Free to ignore it without risk to your coins.
2  Economy / Speculation / No HardFork will happen -Most exchanges say BU will at *best be an ALT-Coin. on: March 19, 2017, 09:23:22 AM
Taken from https://bravenewcoin.com/news/bitcoin-exchanges-announce-contingency-plan-for-hard-fork-split/

Bitfinex, Bitstamp, BTC China, Bitsquare, Bittrex, Coinfloor, itBit, Kraken, ShapeShift, Zaif, and nine others will
"support Bitcoin Core continuously as BTC”  and "will not even consider listing BU coin until replay attack protection is in place"

(Replay attack protection is a method to prevent spending of existing coins on *both chains, which would be possible if BU went ahead with its confrontational plan to try to *replace BTC).

“We have decided to designate the Bitcoin Unlimited fork as BTU (or XBU). The Bitcoin Core implementation will continue to trade as BTC (or XBT) and all exchanges will process deposits and withdrawals in BTC even if the BTU chain has more hashing power.”

Jihan Wu, who recently switched over 75 percent of his mining pool's power to support BU, sulked at the news and referred to the exchanges as “not world class level.”

"Bitcoin Core developer Jameson Lopp tweeted, “It appears that BU devs have no intention of adding replay protection - their plan is to kill the Core chain instead.”

But since the exchanges have basically given that idea the big finger, BU will have to figure out how they are going to survive without the exchanges, or accept their fate as just another alt-coin.

“We do this not out of judgement or philosophical reasons but rather for practical and operational considerations,” the group declared.

Suck it up hard-fork FUDsters..   BU is dead.
3  Other / Meta / Moderator - can we PLEASE have a newbie filter switched on ? on: July 30, 2015, 11:51:42 PM
I realise this is the speculation forum, and that some "noise" is acceptable, but surely you must be getting tired of deleting 1-post accounts with the same stupid troll contents over and over again ?  They dont add anything useful or interesting.

Can you re-enable that feature that was on a while back that prevents newly created accounts from posting within minutes.  Make them wait a few days, or even better, accumulate some posts in the newbie zone that need some form of up-vote for being vaguely useful before they are allowed to run all over the board spouting the same BS over and over again ?
4  Economy / Speculation / Post Count Topic Filter ? on: January 15, 2015, 12:10:19 PM
Is there some way a topic filter by post-count of the topic starter could be implemented ?

Ive been watching the topic originators and what they have to say and I dont think I have seen a *single topic that has been started by anyone with less than a few hundred posts that is worth reading (except for entertainment value if Im bored and feel like reading some stupidity)

And, yes, I am quite aware that *I fall into that category (low post count) as well.. Smiley  This isnt my first forum account, I forgot the login for my other one going back to 2011 and didnt have a recovery email address set on it, so its dead, and I dont often have a lot to say anyway, unless I feel chatty.  In any case Im not sure that I have anything of amazing value to say in the speculation forum anyway, except to occasionally n00b-bash some particularly stupid and persistently annoying spammer making repeated baseless declarations of certainty. (but totally refusing to put their money where their mouth is)  and make a bet or short.

But it seems to me that if was easy to click a button and have all the n00b-posters stupid "OMG, well that about wraps it up for Bitcoin" garbage muted,  that they *might bother less starting a new topic every time theres a dip big enough to make them loosen their bowels.

or maybe just include the topic-starters  post count next to their name in the "Started by" Thread ?   Something to help gag the n00bs until they stick around long enough to gain *some credibility and experience of bitcoins *normal fluctations anyway.

I realise its the Speculation forum, but surely there must be *some posters out there with more thoughtful reasoning than "Cut your loose, its going to 0 !" blather and it would be nice to not have to rake through the verbal diarrhea to find them.
5  Economy / Speculation / Dont follow *Anyone. Trolls, To-Da-Mooners, Falling, Sevvero, or *any Prophets on: October 05, 2014, 05:40:17 AM
I know, this is the "Speculation" forum, where *anyone with an opinion (and they all have one) can vent their thoughts using either of their noise-and-wind-emitting orifice's (and its often hard to tell *which one they are using) without any supporting rationale, logic, evidence or any sort of sense at all.   And clearly, they all do.. regularly and repeatedly.  The stench makes it obvious.

The question you should be asking yourself is .. *Why* would they ?   

Do you *really think that they're all just motivated by the milk of human kindness and desperately just want to prevent some random strangers from making a stupid mistake with their  money by shouting their opinions on some little 2-bit forum in a back corner of the internet ?  That they arent either butt-hurt dumpers, paid-fudsters, wanna-be manipulators or just self-important ("I *know _people_ sonny, you should *listen to *me) blowhards

Hah, right.   "Quick, Sell, you will "loose" everything if you dont !",  "No, HODL !, We're going to the moon tomorrow, next week/month/year", "You will be broke and shamed", "You will be a billionaire in 5 years", "You will kick yourself for *not selling/buying now".   

Yap Yap Yap.

I have yet to see a *single one of them put their own money where their mouth (keyboard) is.   They're quick enough to shout "SEE, I Wuz Right !" when it swings their way.

They have super-sure secret insider information ?  Great, Go make a bet, short some coins, or do something that shows that they believe in their opinions.  Show us their financial acumen by proving how right they are.  Nope, they spend their time yapping here and trying to stampede people who are (stupidly) looking for wisdom in a place where any idiot can get up on stage and harangue the n00bs.

Bitcoin goes up, Bears go silent, To-Da-Mooners pop their corks.   Bitcoin goes down, Bulls dissapear and the "Told you so ! You shoulda listened to me !" bears come out of hiding.

First of all, isnt it *obvious that any market that can go from $30 to $270 and back to $90,  then to $1200 and back to $350 in a matter of months is being driven *primarily by *SPECULATION ?   Duh, its only the name of the sub-forum.  If it *does go up to $2000 by Christmas, isnt it *obvious that it can equally as easily come back down again just as fast ?

Get-rich-quick wanna-be's trying to panic the mobs with their talk of Choo-Choo-Trains, Rockets, missed Boats, Beanie Babies, Tulips, Ponzi's and any emotionally-laden historical analogies they can flap about the place.

If you choose to buy a ticket to a roller coaster, *Expect it to be a wild ride.  It goes up and down you know. Thats its nature.  If you're a scaredy, don't get on.   Or take a punt, buy your lotto ticket and go away for a year or so.  worst case, you lose it all, best case you make a lot.  Dont spend what you cant afford to gamble and you don't have to worry.

Bitcoin *IS* a world-changing technology.  There is and has been *nothing like it in the history of the world.  It wasn't even *possible until the global internet (which itself is only 20-odd years old as far as the masses are concerned) enabled the reliable high speed interchange of data amongst the average joes.   Its the first *new form of stateless money with highly desirable characteristics in millennia.   

It Is *very useful in many ways not possible previously.  (not going to list them all here).   But it *is going to take time for it to settle down and find its place.  Collapsing Fiat Currencies, the usual financial shenanigans by stupid governments, the media and the world banking industry are all going to try and make its adoption as slow and difficult as possible, because it *doesn't benefit them, whereas the current system that they own does (at your expense).

Short-sighted idiots who see it purely as a shortcut to their own personal get-rich dreams and speculate wildly will all help to keep it unstable until its market cap reaches the point (billions to trillions) where they can only make little ripples, not big splashes by throwing a few million in and out to panic the gullible and fearful.

I see it primarily as a *Freedom-Tool.   My own personal wealth is literally secondary to that.  I already live my life comfortably, so would I be significantly happier with a Ferrari in the driveway ?  Not in my opinion.  Enough is a feast.   

But, would I like to be able to save/buy/transfer and do whatever I want with my money without middlemen everywhere taking their cut and telling me what I can and cant do ?  Absolutely. 

*Thats what Bitcoin offers long-term, and why I believe in it.   It is the first form of money that is owned by the people who use it.

Every day, new positive things are happening.   People are building new systems based on it.  New apps and platforms are being created constantly.  Adoption is rising.  Its all looking very positive to me.

"Then Why is it going down ?" whine the speculators who bought while it was high.   "Because of people like *YOU, who do nothing except buy and sell in the interest of short-term gain, increasing the volatility and doing nothing to contribute to its adoption".

Gamblers trying to climb on top of each other and focussed purely on trying to increase their own personal wealth by predicting movements or trying to fool others into doing so are so short-sighted its both laughable and pathetic.

Do your research, decide if you think it has potential, make your own decision and stick with it.  Be patient, help it grow and be more useful.  *use it and ignore the emotional price-tickers and the shouters on the street corner..   Anything else leaves you vulnerable to manipulation by panic-merchants with their own agendas.

We now return you to your usual program of Evangelists and Mouth-Frothers preaching their Gospel's for your entertainment.  Pass the popcorn. 
Smiley
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7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Is Bitcoin subject to a "Hostile TakeOver" ? on: March 25, 2011, 01:03:22 PM
Greetings People.

I have been tinkering with Bitcoins for the last few months, learning, mining, buying and purchasing a few odds and ends with them. Enjoying the idea of possibly being on the forefront of an idea to free trade and currency from the manipulation of those with more of it than I have.

This is my first post, so pardon me if its a dumb question or has been answered before.  I have read all the Wikis, a lot of forum posts and other resources (even poked through the code, being a Linux-head and dilettante in coding, although no expert cryptographer).

I'm also no economic's grad, so I might be making some stupid obvious error in assumptions here, but I figure its better to ask and look like a fool temporarily than stay quiet and stay a fool Smiley

Given that the there are only a limited number of bitcoins available, (currently around 5 million at a bit under $1 each ? ), If some wealthy entity (individual/state) hostile to the idea of allowing a new currency to gain traction *really* wanted to kill it before it builds momentum, what is to stop them from offering a $ price well above the current market value ($5each, $50each whatever) for the existing bitcoins - Im sure a large percentage of folk would gleefully offload their coins and take the profit, then they just sit on them, making a large percentage of them unavailble by taking them out of circulation.

I believe this is a "hostile takeover" ?  (if I have my sketchy biz terminology correct) ?

5 million dollars would be pocket change to anyone with heavily vested interests in the current $ system, and might be seen as a small price to pay to "bump off" a potential threat.

OK, So more coins would be mined, but at a fairly slow rate if I understand the difficulty mechanism, would the "replenishment rate" be sufficient to forestall this type of attack ?

perhaps the remaining circulating coins would then gain much more value, people start using the decimal places more, then sometime later the hoarder decides to dump his stash, taking a huge profit and driving the value back down into the dirt ?

I believe this is a consequence of what is known as a "shallow market" ?   Since bitcoin will always be a limited shallow market by design, unless/until the fractions gain a lot of value, will it always be vulnerable to such manipulation by anyone with sufficient resources to "buy and sell" a large part of the market ?

Is this a more likely attack vector than the hypothetical crypto-breaks, or network takeovers ?  Is there a defense, or is that just the way it is ?

Or am I missing something that any economics 101 student would know the answer to ?

thanks for any explanations/reassurances forthcoming
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