I'm not looking for a technical discussion between PoS, PoW, etc... but rather fundamentally why traders and speculators are not using the DEX provided by BitShares?  Bag holders need not apply to this discussion.  BitShares does have additional functionality which can bring usage to the SmartCoins, UIA's etc... however I am only wondering about crypto traders at this point in time.


My thoughts and questions without getting into politics:

-Liquidity is a major problem however this is a chicken and egg problem.

-With liquidity, any market can exist on a completely open system.  BitFacebook, BitNasdaq, BitOil etc...  Yes we are talking options and at this point in time we can not take delivery of the physical good however the sky is the limit and we do not know where this technology will take us.  The entire world financial market looks to be headed into chaos.  Think:  increased taxes, capital controls, frozen accounts.

-After seeing all the other exchanges nonsense why do people still use these proprietary systems?  We have no idea what is going on behind the scenes.  Recently with ETH prices going through the rough at polo, one begins to wonder is there some sort of willy bot going on again?  The BTS wallet flips this on the head and should make the exchanges fight for your business getting into and out of the BTS ecosystem.  Take a look at the deposit and withdraw screen so see what I mean.  3rd party exchanges simply become a gateway and not a huge target for hackers etc...  You have the ability to deposit/withdraw other crypto directly from the web based wallet.  Can operate as a bridge, gateway, or even with fiat via OpenLedger.

-Are traders actually withdrawing their funds for long term storage hence becoming speculators or are they leaving it on 3rd party exchanges?

-Original 0.xx wallet was very slow and almost impossible to use on slower computers.  This has been fixed in 2.0 with a very fast web socket based wallet.  Trades in ~3 seconds, fair for everyone.


I've had my head in crypto for a few years now and understand that real world usage will drive adoption, perhaps not even by the best technologically advanced "coin."  I do not understand the hatred between crypto followers in this space and why completely opposite projects need to be against one another.  In the real world, multiple chains will find their niche market.

Can any citizens of Greece answer some of these questions?  I am curious to know how the people of Greece feel about Bitcoin and blockchain technologies.


-Has there been any guidance from the government on how Bitcoin is taxed and or regulated?  Is it legal to accept, trade, exchange?

-How are you purchasing and selling?  LocalBitcoins?  ATM?  Any physical exchanges or stores willing to accept/sell?

-With the large withdrawals of Euro from the banks, where is everyone putting their money?  Gold, silver, banks outside of the EU?

-Is anyone using the BitShares platform to protect against the declining value of the Euro?  For example purchasing BitUSD or BitGold?

I am looking to sell or trade these domains for BTC, BitShares BTS, or computer hardware.  They have been registered since December 2013.

cryptobanked.info
cryptobanked.org

cryptomarket.info
cryptomarket.org

p2pcoins.info
p2pcoins.org

p2pmoney.info

What is the latest and greatest x11 CPU miner?  I am just curious to see how they stack up against the GPU using SGMiner v5.

~6 months old used for mining PTS and never seen over 60c with less then 50% fan. These blower style cards are great, run cooler and quieter as they blow hot air out of your case. As you can see I also had a fan in the window, during winter, blowing cold air into the case!

$175/ea shipped within the US.

[Foxconn Renaissance II x58 socket 1366 - $175 shipped]

Retiring one of my x58 systems that has served me well along with an extra Pentium D I have laying around.  Accepting Protoshares, btc, or paypal.

Foxconn Renaissance II x58 socket 1366 - $175 shipped


-Includes audio card, i/o panel, original box and manual
-Flashed with the latest BIOS
-Works with gulftown and I even used a Xeon L5639 in it.


Intel Pentium D 820 - $15 shipped

http://www.coinweek.com/people-in-the-news/dealer-news/rare-coin-company-accepting-bitcoins-payment/

"One of the country’s most respected rare coin companies, Harlan J. Berk Ltd., (HJB), is now accepting Bitcoins as a form of payment in an effort to provide better service to their clientele."

Mined with them for 2 months as they were delivered on October 14, 2013. Stock bios, not undervolted etc... always run below 70c and <75% fan. These perform great as they blow the hot air OUT of the case. Last pic shows how anal I am about temps, even though its been <10 degree's outside I have a fan blow cold air on them 24/7. Only reason for selling is I need a laptop.


I would prefer to sell either 2 or 4 at a time and will accept btc, ltc, or paypal. $750 shipped for two or $1500 shipped for all 4.

[Few key parts and mods:]

Too many hobbies, too little time. Up for sale is a barely used HPI Savage X SS 4.6 nitro monster truck. <15 tanks through the truck.

Only one issue...I took the gas tank off and left it in the garage over winter and now I can't find it! Here is a link to buy the $15 tank, http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXFZN7&P=ML  I have one on order however the ship date keeps getting pushed back!

http://www.hpiracing.com/kitinfo/861/




Few key parts and mods:

-HPI 3 speed trans
-HPI Aluminum clutch
-HPI sway bars
-HPI HD Steering servo spring
-HPI Ball Bearing steering post upgrade
-RPM Center skid plate
-2 bodies, stock HPI and brand new HPI charger body
-1600 ni-mh rx battery & charger
-Newer HPI AM tx and rx
-Rechargeable glow plug igniter & charger
-Upgraded HD steering servo
-Box FULL of spare parts (shock oils, diff oils, glow plugs, air filters, clips, screws, 2spd trans, sway bars, etc...)


$450 shipped within the US btc, ltc, or usd.

Neomailbox.net Swiss based email and proxy service is now accepting btc.

http://neomailbox.com/about/news/289-now-accepting-bitcoin

[PRICE DROPS on the 6990's]

*Edit 6/2/13 - adding a NEW Diamond 6990.
*Edit 6/12/13 - All prices obo
*7/21/13 - Lowered prices
*7/24/13 Added 2x 6970 - 1x single slot 6850 -1x Cooler Master 600w PSU
*7/31/13 PRICE DROPS on the 6990's
*8/7/13 PRICE DROPS on the 6990's
*8/14/13 PRICE CUT
*8/28/13 PRICE CUT 6990
*9/17/13 Price cuts on all
*10/1/13 price cuts and some items sold.


NEW Diamond 6990 - $450 shipped

Just picked this up locally, took it out of the static bag and tested to make sure it posted.  Mint as could be!







Powercolor 6990 with Artic cooler - $400 shipped obo
Picked this up a week ago and while its a beast, I have decided to sit summer out and wait for 89xx series.  Includes the Artic dual fan 6990 cooler and stock heatsink.  





My findings over the past week running 24/7

-This artic cooler keeps each gpu well under 68c @ 900 core, 775 mem, 70c vrm, 1.12v (switch in low voltage setting).  
-The artic 2mm thermal pads for the vrm's were terrible so I replaced with two layers of 1mm pads (not optimal, but all I had).  This dropped the vrm temp from ~82c > 75c.  I added a small fan on top as see in the pic and this further drops the vrm's typically under 70c.  I would suggest replacing with quality 1.5-2mm pads which will further drop the vrm's well under 70c with good airflow.
-They will run 950 core stable at the low voltage setting however the vrm's would sit around ~78c and I did not want to run this 24/7 until I could replace the vrm thermal pads with proper 1.5-2mm as mentioned above.

2x reference 6970 $125/ea shipped or buy both and I'll include an Arctic heatsink/fan and an additional spare reference hsf! SOLD



1x Powercolor Single Slot AX6850 - $SOLD SOLD



CoolerMaster RS-600-AMBA-D3 600w PSU - $40 shipped



Prefer paypal for these since were forced to use that for purchase of newer cards  HOWEVER will consider btc...  A previous for sale thread for reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=155228.0 and you can also see my ebay feedback under Brekyrself.

I need 1x 6950-6970 stock reference cooler shipped to us zip code 60005.  PM or respond here with what you have.

I just picked up another reference 6950 with shaders unlocked however I can't get the new thermal paste to transfer to the heatsink.  Almost no transfer of paste telling me the gap is too large however I can't figure out for the life of me why this thing won't fit correctly.  I did put a 0.5mm thermal pad in however it needs ~10% more fan to keep the same temp as another 6950 with good paste!

Nothing looks warped and I tried every possible tightening procedure.  gpu first, backplate first, washers on the gpu mount for more pressure, nothing works.

What am I missing here, I can't believe something is not obvious and jumping out by inspecting the board/heatsink.

[What's left:]

*Edit - Adding 2x Dell 5970's I just received from ebay purchases.  On the fence rather or not to add them to the farm or use the $$ to buy btc when the times right.
*Edit 3/27/13 - 1x 5970 sold.
*edit 5/9/13 - added 2x 5850
*edit 5/13/13 - 6950 and psu sold


Local pickup in Chicago is welcome, paypal or btc.


What's left:

2x MSI Twin Frozr II 5850 - eBay seller (bought a few months back) said they are refurbs from MSI and they are clean as could be - $150/ea shipped




SOLD:
2x Dell (they have the handle) 5970's, $335 shipped each or $650 shipped for both
1x HIS 6950, 2gb sku H695QNT2G2M.  Ships with the original box. $170 shipped
1x Cooler Master UCP-700w ultimate PSU.  This has served me well the last few years however I'm going a bit extreme with the new video cards thus need a few hundred more watts.  $75 shipped







Check out my feedback on eBay (Brekyrself) and also www.rx7club.com as I've sold countless $1000's of car parts on the club.  PM me for my paypal address.