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1  Economy / Gambling / Bit777/Peerbet - Vote for a new coin! Replacing ANC! Ends 4/6/14 on: April 30, 2014, 03:27:26 PM
ANNOUNCEMENT:

With the changing and dynamic altcoin market, we at Bit777.com/Peerbet.org (Part of CasinoBitco.in) will periodically update our altcoin gambling options.

We're looking to replace 1 coin this month (most likely AnonCoin) with a new up-and-coming coin.

DarkCoin and MasterCoin have been nominated as the front runners in this effort - we decided to leave it to the community for a vote!

We'll check here for feedback and our future coin offering!
2  Economy / Securities / Peerbet.org | Invest | 1% Dice / 3.2% Wheel of Fortune | BTC & Altcoins on: February 05, 2014, 09:30:11 AM
We have enabled our invest function on Peerbet.org.

You can invest in the Bitcoin or any of the altcoin bankrolls. Currently the site supports: BTC, LTC, NMC, PPC, XPM, FTC, DOGE, ANC

House edge: 1% on Dice, 3.2% on Wheel

7% Commission on profits on Divest.

Note: The invest option is only for Dice & Wheel. The other parts of the site are independent from it.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / PeerDice.org * 1st in the World! 0.3% House Edge! Multiplayer Dice! BTC & Alts! on: February 01, 2014, 04:01:35 PM
We are happy to announce the release of https://PeerDice.org! The 1st in the world Multi-Player Dice game, with the lowest house edge on Earth! Just 0.3%! Win Unlimited amounts!

Q. How do I play PeerDice? A. Each user can place any amount of bets for each game. Each bet consists of a number (e.g. 66.7978) and bet value (e.g. 0.1 BTC). Users have the option to use random numbers by choosing exact or random from the dropdown menu next to the bet field. By choosing the Random option, each user can select his desired range, out of which the system will draw the random number.

Users can choose if they want to play indefinitely or limit their play by using the minimum/maximum balance limits or the maximum rolls limit.

Every second a new game starts with a new number drawn.

The winner is the person that has a number closest to the number drawn. The winner wins all bets of all other players minus 0.3% house fee. In the rare circcumstances where there might be more than 1 bet with the same number and it wins, the winnings are split.

Q. Can there be more than 1 winner? A. Yes! There can be as many winners as the actual active players in the game. This happens when a lot of people are playing, and each of them has different bet values. We have designed our game to be similar to poker. Whenever the winner's bet is smaller than other players' bets, these players fight against each other on their own with their respective number selections.

Q. What happens if there is only one player per currency/coin? A. We need at least 2 players per currency/coin to roll the dice, with at least 1 bet from each player. The dice will not be rolled until a 2nd player comes.

Q. Is it provably fair? How do you draw the number? A. Yes, of course. When you place your bet, you also input your client seed. When the draw begins, the system uses all client seeds + the bet ids of all players to produce a SHA256 seed. The hash is then used in our RNG as a starting value to determine the Roll outcome. This way everyone is partially involved in determining the outcome and a single player or the house cannot affect it in any way.

Q. Once I start the game, how do I stop or pause it? A. Click on the 'Active Bets' tab. There you have options to pause or cancel each or all of your ongoing bets.

Q. How can I manage my placed bets? A. You can manage your placed bets, by clicking on the 'Active Bets' tab and choosing one of the options in the 'Actions' menu.

    symbol - Clicking on this symbol activates your bet for the following games. II symbol - By clicking on this symbol, you will pause the bet. X symbol - Deletes the placed bet forever.

Example situations Users A, B & C have bets for different values: User A = 1btc bet, User B = 0.5btc bet, User C = 0.5btc bet - Example A: User A wins. User A receives 0.5btc refund + his actual win: 0.5btc (his stake) + 0.5btc from user B + 0.5btc from user C x 0.997% = 1.9955btc - Example B: User B wins. User A receives 0.5btc refund, since User B's stake is 0.5btc. User B receives 0.5 btc (his stake) + 0.5btc from user A + 0.5btc from User C * 0.997% = 1.4955btc

Situations with more than 1 bet:

User A has 3 bets with different values: Bet 1 = 0.1btc, Bet 2 = 0.5btc, Bet 3 = 0.7btc. User B has 2 bets for 1btc and 0.5btc. - Example A: User A's Bet 1 wins. User A receives 0.4 + 0.6 refunds from Bet 2 & 3, User B receives 0.9 & 0.4 refunds from his two bets. User A receives 0.1 (his stake) + 0.4 (from the 4 competing bets) * 0.997% = 0.4985btc win - Example B: User B wins the 0.5btc bet. User A receives 0.2btc refund. User B receives 0.5btc refund. User B receives 0.1btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc (from User A) + 0.5btc + 0.5btc (from his 2 stakes) * 0.997% = 2.0937btc win

More than 1 winner:

User A has a bet of 0.5btc. User B has a bet of 1btc. User C has a bet of 3btc. User D has a bet of 1.5btc.

    Users A & D win and need to split the profit.

    User A receives: 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc * 0.997% = 1.994btc /2 (2 winners) = 0.997btc

    User B loses his bet

    User C receives a refund of 1.5btc and loses 1.5btc

    User D receives: 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc * 0.997% = 1.994btc /2 (2 winners) = 0.997btc from the initial bet and the user also receives: 0.5btc (the remainder of User B) + 1btc (user C) + 1btc (the remainder of his own bet) * 0.997% = 2.4925btc. His total win is 0.997btc + 2.4925btc 3.4895btc

Q. What do payout color indications mean? A. We use the following colors to mark the results of each game: Green - You won more than your total bet(s) value. Red - Your payout is less than your total bet(s) value. Silver (default) - You havent played for current roll.
4  Economy / Service Announcements / PeerDice.org * 1st in the World! 0.3% House Edge! Multiplayer Dice! BTC & Alts! on: February 01, 2014, 12:06:35 PM
Dear Members,

We are happy to announce the release of PeerDice.org! The 1st in the world Multi-Player Dice game, with the lowest house edge on Earth! Just 0.3%! Win Unlimited amounts!

Q. How do I play PeerDice?
A. Each user can place any amount of bets for each game. Each bet consists of a number (e.g. 66.7978) and bet value (e.g. 0.1 BTC). Users have the option to use random numbers by choosing exact or random from the dropdown menu next to the bet field. By choosing the Random option, each user can select his desired range, out of which the system will draw the random number.

Users can choose if they want to play indefinitely or limit their play by using the minimum/maximum balance limits or the maximum rolls limit.

Every second a new game starts with a new number drawn.

The winner is the person that has a number closest to the number drawn. The winner wins all bets of all other players minus 0.3% house fee. In the rare circcumstances where there might be more than 1 bet with the same number and it wins, the winnings are split.

Q. Can there be more than 1 winner?
A. Yes! There can be as many winners as the actual active players in the game. This happens when a lot of people are playing, and each of them has different bet values. We have designed our game to be similar to poker. Whenever the winner's bet is smaller than other players' bets, these players fight against each other on their own with their respective number selections.

Q. What happens if there is only one player per currency/coin?
A. We need at least 2 players per currency/coin to roll the dice, with at least 1 bet from each player. The dice will not be rolled until a 2nd player comes.

Q. Is it provably fair? How do you draw the number?
A. Yes, of course. When you place your bet, you also input your client seed. When the draw begins, the system uses all client seeds + the bet ids of all players to produce a SHA256 seed. The hash is then used in our RNG as a starting value to determine the Roll outcome. This way everyone is partially involved in determining the outcome and a single player or the house cannot affect it in any way.

Q. Once I start the game, how do I stop or pause it?
A. Click on the 'Active Bets' tab. There you have options to pause or cancel each or all of your ongoing bets.

Q. How can I manage my placed bets?
A. You can manage your placed bets, by clicking on the 'Active Bets' tab and choosing one of the options in the 'Actions' menu.
   > symbol - Clicking on this symbol activates your bet for the following games.
   II symbol - By clicking on this symbol, you will pause the bet.
   X symbol - Deletes the placed bet forever.

Example situations
Users A, B & C have bets for different values: User A = 1btc bet, User B = 0.5btc bet, User C = 0.5btc bet
- Example A: User A wins. User A receives 0.5btc refund + his actual win: 0.5btc (his stake) + 0.5btc from user B + 0.5btc from user C x 0.997% = 1.9955btc
- Example B: User B wins. User A receives 0.5btc refund, since User B's stake is 0.5btc. User B receives 0.5 btc (his stake) + 0.5btc from user A + 0.5btc from User C * 0.997% = 1.4955btc

Situations with more than 1 bet:

User A has 3 bets with different values: Bet 1 = 0.1btc, Bet 2 = 0.5btc, Bet 3 = 0.7btc. User B has 2 bets for 1btc and 0.5btc.
- Example A: User A's Bet 1 wins. User A receives 0.4 + 0.6 refunds from Bet 2 & 3, User B receives 0.9 & 0.4 refunds from his two bets. User A receives 0.1 (his stake) + 0.4 (from the 4 competing bets) * 0.997% = 0.4985btc win
- Example B: User B wins the 0.5btc bet. User A receives 0.2btc refund. User B receives 0.5btc refund. User B receives 0.1btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc (from User A) + 0.5btc + 0.5btc (from his 2 stakes) * 0.997% = 2.0937btc win

More than 1 winner:

User A has a bet of 0.5btc. User B has a bet of 1btc. User C has a bet of 3btc. User D has a bet of 1.5btc.

- Users A & D win and need to split the profit.

- User A receives: 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc * 0.997% = 1.994btc /2 (2 winners) = 0.997btc
- User B loses his bet
- User C receives a refund of 1.5btc and loses 1.5btc
- User D receives: 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc + 0.5btc * 0.997% = 1.994btc /2 (2 winners) = 0.997btc from the initial bet and the user also receives: 0.5btc (the remainder of User B) + 1btc (user C) + 1btc (the remainder of his own bet) * 0.997% = 2.4925btc. His total win is 0.997btc + 2.4925btc 3.4895btc

Q. What do payout color indications mean?
A. We use the following colors to mark the results of each game:
   Green - You won more than your total bet(s) value.
   Red - Your payout is less than your total bet(s) value.
   Silver (default) - You havent played for current roll.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Peerbet.org Now Accepts Dogecoin! Wheel of Fortune & Dice! on: January 17, 2014, 07:56:39 PM
Dear Doge fans,

We have decided and fully integrated Dogecoins into Peerbet!

You can play Wheel & Dice with them!

For all the Dice Bot Fans, Play Dice with ROBO!

Good luck all!
6  Economy / Games and rounds / [Daily] Peerbet.org/PeerDice.org 1000 Satoshi Giveaway! * Temporarily Paused on: January 01, 2014, 12:36:54 PM
Dear members,

We are reinstating our giveaway!

Post your username and you will get 1k Satoshi Free!

Only 1 bonus per user per day.

Minimum 20 activity required to qualify.

Play Raffles, Wheel & Dice @ Peerbet.org!
7  Economy / Games and rounds / Bit777.com 1mBTC Giveaway! on: January 01, 2014, 12:35:48 PM
Dear members,

We are reinstating our giveaway!

Post your username and you will get 1mBTC free!

Only 1 bonus per user, and 5mBTC in bets required to make a withdrawal!

Minimum 20 activity required to qualify.
8  Economy / Gambling / Coming soon: PeerDice.org Dice Innovation with 0.3% House Edge and no Max Bet! on: December 28, 2013, 09:32:22 AM
We are working on a new dice game, which will have 0.3% house edge, off-chain betting, no max bet or max win amount.

It is a dice game that currently doesn't exist in the bitcoin gambling world, or in the real money world. Essentially, it is an entirely new concept, and we are the inventors of it.

It will also be playable through the API.

As with Peerbet & Bit777, the new dice game will also support all  7 cryptocurrencies that we have.

We hope to release it within 2 to 3 weeks.

Hopefully you guys will love it.  
9  Economy / Gambling / Happy Holidays and a HUGE Thank You! on: December 23, 2013, 09:11:47 AM
Dear forum members,

When we decided to enter the Bitcoin space and launched Bit777 we were very unprepared for the enormous support the Bitcoin community has to offer. The Bitcoin gambling business exceeded our expectations and as a result in August we bought out Peerbet in an attempt to broaden our business. Well, Peerbet was a hidden gem. The Peerbet community is full of young, energetic and positive people, who truly make Peerbet what it is today - one of the greatest Bitcoin sites in the world!

Recently we introduced 6 Altcoins to both Peerbet and Bit777, which brought a new perspective to the business, and now thanks to some of our most dedicated users, we even have a Bitcoin/Altcoin exchange (dice12), altcoin faucets (satoshi4free), and a few altcoin games (such as Arenabot and the Pyramid) operating right within Peerbet chat! How cool is that... In 2013 we achieved so much that it is unbelievable! We are currently most likely the 2nd largest bitcoin gambling business after Just-Dice and in 2014 the Sky is the limit!

We couldn't have achieved any of this without your trust! For this we would like to say one huge THANK YOU! and to say that we really appreciate your support throughout 2013!

We would like to wish you Merry Christmas, and a Happy and very very prosperous New Year!

Or.. if you like this better... May the Gods of Crypto be keep you safe in 2014!
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Doge-Wheel.com , 5 Wheels of Fortune! Much Profit. WOW! on: December 20, 2013, 07:02:26 PM
Play with DogeCoin!

Introduced from the creators of Peerbet & Bit777!

Enjoy!

https://www.doge-wheel.com
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Doge-Wheel.com , 5 Wheels of Fortune! Much Profit. WOW! on: December 20, 2013, 06:16:47 PM
Comes from the owners of Peerbet & Bit777.

Enjoy!

https://www.doge-wheel.com
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Play on Bit777.com with BTC/LTC/NMC/PPC/FTC/XPM/ANC! 50+ Casino Games! on: December 15, 2013, 01:54:47 PM
Dear fellow Altcoiners,

We are happy to announce that now you can play in the best bitcoin casino using 6 altcoins that we recently added: Litecoins, Namecoins, Peercoins, Feathercoins, Primecoins, Anoncoins!

We feature 50+ Casino games!

Alternatively you can always play Wheel, Dice & Raffles at Peerbet.org using the same altcoins!

Happy Holidays from the Bit777 & Peerbet team!

13  Economy / Gambling / Peerbet Dice Gambling Bot by zx81 on: December 06, 2013, 11:48:46 AM
You can auto-play dice using this bot!

https://github.com/hashtagzx81/peerbet_dice_bot
14  Economy / Gambling / Roller Coaster of Luck @ Bit777.com on: November 30, 2013, 01:43:57 PM
We had a very interesting situation today with one of our players at the casino.

He started with 0.84btc when up to 20btc, back down to about 3-4, back up to 22, back down to 3, then up to 8-9, and then he hit a major break winning ~30btc in a single hand, and then he lost almost all of it, ending up with 4btc. His balance was up to 46btc at one point, which relates to about $53k.

What a roller coaster!!!

He was playing High-Low Switch.

Here is a screenshot of his play:



15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] Peerbet.org Dice & Wheel accepts LTC, NMC, PPC, XPM, and now FTC & ANC! on: November 24, 2013, 10:24:27 AM
Hey Everyone,

Many of you already know us so I will skip to the important part: We just implemented LITECOINS to Peerbet.org. Currently you can play with LTC on the Wheels. It is still in somewhat of a trial mode, so deposit/withdrawal delays could be expected in the next few days. If everything goes well, we will also add it to Raffles, and to Bit777, and we will also add Namecoins and Peercoins!
16  Economy / Gambling / Spin #888,888 on Peerbet Wheel will win 0.5btc! on: November 21, 2013, 08:58:48 AM
Spin #888,888 on Peerbet Wheel will win 0.5btc!

And it will happen today! We are currently at 835k. Play now!
17  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on Peerbet.org on: October 27, 2013, 11:10:34 AM
We are starting a monthly advertising opportunity on Peerbet.org.

The ads will be Skyscraper banners on our raffles and wheel pages.

Only non-competing ads will be allowed.

Minimum bid BTC8 per month.

We reserve the right to refuse advertising to anyone who we deem incompatible.

Action ends Sunday Nov 3rd, 2pm GMT.

Traffic stats:

18  Economy / Gambling / ANN: 200+ BTC Giveaway on Bit777 & The Amazing Race @ Peerbet! on: October 25, 2013, 06:54:05 AM
Dear members,

1) Bit777.com just became 6 months old!

To celebrate our half-year anniversary, we wanted to do something cool.

So we credited every single one of you with a bonus! A total of 15,327 people! This includes both Peerbet.org & Bit777.com users! Everyone who who made a deposit at our casino received 0.03btc bonus and everyone who didn't - received 0.01btc!

The bonus is withdrawable, however it comes with a x5 rollover requirement, excluding No Zero Roulette and Baccarat, x10 rollover on Blackjack.

Play Now at Bit777.com

2) Welcome to the Peerbet.org Amazing Race!

As many of you know, we have been working on Peerbet Beta for a while now. In order to test it properly we need a pool of players.

So we are launching The Amazing Race @ beta.Peerbet.org! The Race starts right now and will end on Sunday 3rd of November, 5pm GMT.

All players start with 0.05btc. The 3 people with the highest balance at the end of the race will win!

Prizes: 1st place - 1btc, 2nd place - 0.5btc, 3rd place - 0.25btc!

Bots are Welcome! Only current user accounts are credited. Remember, this is not real money, only the 3 prizes in the end will be real!

Since it is BETA, if you see something that you think needs improvement, email us at cs@bit777.com!


Good luck on both promos!



Best Regards,

Bit777 & Peerbet Support Team
19  Economy / Gambling / BitcoinCasinoPro Corrupted and Unethical Behavior | More Evidence! on: October 14, 2013, 12:08:47 PM
BitcoinCasinoPro is operating in a very corrupted and unethical manner, which has no place in the bitcoin community. I will let you draw your own conclusions. Operators shouldn't support him in any way as paying for higher grade corrupts the entire idea by itself and misleads users.

Read through this: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/ , The group in question does have A+ Rating!!!

This is a chat transcript from a chat we had on Peerbet.org. Mind the 19 "paying for quality" operators he mentions:



Take a look here:



Not paying companies receive low grades, including our perfectly fair Wheel game @ Peerbet.org



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I'd like to draw attention to our Bit777 review.

http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bit777/

BCP Overall Rating
C-
Software   D-
Financial Security   B-
Customer Service   B+
Promotions   C-

Questionable hand results based on a 20 hand seed.
D- for our software - Yeah, right.
B- for financial security - We don't have a single payout complaint in 6 months with currently 11,000 people that have passed through the site. Not sure B- is realistic.
B+ for customer service - We reply to all customer questions within the hour by email, and we reply actively on the forum.
C- for promotions - Now that is outright bullshit. We are most likely the only casino that offers decent deposit bonuses, we do have 2 separate freebie giveaways, and we also comp our regular players whenever they ask for it. How is that C-??

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I want to share briefly my experience with BitcoinCasinoPro:

About a month ago he showed great enthusiasm in rating satoshibet.com, and requested 0.5 free BTC to "test the site" with. I really don't like this practice of comping reviewers in the first place, it feels really like paying/bribing for a review.

Seeing as we allow bets starting from 0.000001 BTC, I decided to comply and figured 0.1 BTC should be sufficient for this purpose.
He played shortly afterwards and lost it all basically risking it all at once in a very short time martingaling 1 game. He clearly wasn't testing but just gambling away.

A few weeks go by and I inquire if he liked the site. I get a response that he "wasn't able to withdraw because he lost extremely quick, and hence is not able to offer a fair evaluation". And if I "can provide more info regards to this please".

I find this somewhat bully behavior, it just feels like you are trying to squeeze out a few BTC to get "payed" for a (good?) review.
If I ever get a rating on your site it probably will be a very bad one after I posted this, but Satoshibet does not condone this behavior from review sites.

I wonder what other casinos experience was?


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We were downgraded to D+ for having slow payouts for one day out of our ~8 months of operation. If I didn't care less I would actually complain. Either way I agree with OP that the grades are ridiculously skewed.

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We work hard for our stellar reputation and we do feel we do not have to pay for high grades to get them.

Please note, that this is not an attack on the highly graded businesses, as most of them do have a great reputation.

Also we have not verified his words with the majority of the 'paying' operators. They are welcome to post their experience in this thread.


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UPDATE:

It only took 3 screenshots of his own actions in the open public to push his biased scoring even further. He downgraded our score for challenging his actions. Corrupted behavior at its finest.




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here are my two topic

real story : how bitcoincasinopro handling issues https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0

bitcoinlivebets.com stealing all my winnings 30 BTC https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=300044.0

so bitcoincasinopro only assisted to bitcoinlivebets to steal all my winnings : 30 BTC  

It is obviously for a 10 years old child, who could use calculator that here is something wrong.   (bitcoinlivebets added a fake bet to my account with stake 29,601 BTC,  while they max limit is only 3 BTC)
http://www46.zippyshare.com/d/82456415/1815851/bitcoinkivebetsfakeaccounthistory.xlsx

after assisting for this robbing bitcoincasinopro upgraded  bitcoinlivebets from C  to B




I did not invest to bitcoincasinopro, perhaps bitcoinlivebets did ...

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He is attacking casinos in reviews and publicly on this forum (Namely SWC and Bit777), that provide similar services of casinos he has been affiliates of for years, that lended him USD or BTC to get started here.  IMO clear conflict of interests, now honestly he runs a pretty decent site, except in these cases, I do believe however with the 2 new competing sites, he will lose his corner on being our watchdog.  I really think one of the new site that offers SEO service will clearly progress if the desire is there, that where this guy actually does achieve in his desire.


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This guy's a low-life.

He contacted the owner of Bitwincasino.com & offered to submit a free casino review initially, (though alarm bells started ringing after I noticed this thread shortly afterwards).

The owner of Bitwincasino.com then contacted him regards the review at which point he demanded 12BTC for it, or he would provide a negative review (full story here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=309060.0).

Steer clear of this guy & his site.

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Just-Dice chat. This is how you get an A+. All you need to do is pay 25btc and its done! The article in question: http://bitcoinmagazine.com/7659/betcoin-tm-allegedly-fraudulent-activity/

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13:54:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> sounds like another gambling agenda from someone
13:54:27 (72492) <badguy> with that much evidence...highly doubt it
13:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:54:44 (72492) <badguy> there are screenshots of actual copyright theft, hash theft
13:54:50 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> why would they "do evil"?
13:54:55 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just dont understand
13:54:55 (72492) <badguy> trademark theft
13:55:04 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh I agree thats messed up
13:55:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but no harm no foul? we are talking words not actual programs
13:55:33 (72492) <badguy> are they a paid sponsor on your site?
13:55:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> yes
13:55:59 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> so is 19 other companies
13:57:03 (72492) <badguy> yeah, well in my opinion, and apparently what i read, stealing someone else's product isnt cool
13:57:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i agree
13:57:12 (72492) <badguy> shows real low moral character
13:57:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> but from a service perspective to players what risk?>
13:57:31 (72492) <badguy> hah
13:57:35 (72492) <badguy> ill tell you what
13:57:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> give me a reason to downgrade that effects play
13:57:40 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i will right now
13:58:03 (72492) <badguy> if today they do all this, tomorrow they will just quit with their players balances, and vanish
13:58:05 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> what they doing is shady it's uncool to steal peoples homework
13:58:17 (710) <drfred> what? Cheesy i highly doubt that 12:54:43 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent 2000 btcs on advertising
13:58:18 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article on betcoin?
13:58:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just look in the bitcoin forum auctions
13:58:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they won a full month in a row at 250 btc x 8 slots a week?
13:59:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> for how many weeks plus they donated 50 btc to them , 25 or so to us, 100;s of other locations
13:59:11 (72492) <badguy> bro, madoff was running a ponzi for 50 years, 49 years he was ok, and people were happy. theft happens only once
13:59:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they have spent lots
13:59:37 (134004) <SJ> so theyre basically buying their rating from you
13:59:42 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
13:59:47 (710) <drfred> @ray: no, about betcoin
13:59:57 (72492) <badguy> SJ right on spot
14:00:02 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> no but financial security is a portion of the rating
14:00:25 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> just-dice spent zero with us and they rank A+
14:00:31 (98066) <Nix> wait so I could open a site and pay you to make it sound good?
14:00:32 (72492) <badguy> well bcp I don't understand how can you defend them after all their actions
14:00:35 (134004) <SJ> have you read that betcoin article?
14:00:42 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they don't even offer an affiliate program so no money earned just losses occur from sending players here
14:00:43 (134004) <SJ> betcoin should be nowhere near a+ site
14:01:07 (710) <drfred> they gave him money @SJ, he cant rate them bad Cheesy
14:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:01:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> good feedback from playerss
14:01:28 (134004) <SJ> have you read that article??
14:01:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the 3 main components
14:01:35 (168205) <wanda> LOL
14:01:36 (134004) <SJ> they dont offer provably fair at all
14:01:41 (710) <drfred> or at least he wont
14:01:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> actually its lock tight they use blockchain
14:01:57 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Doug could verify that
14:02:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> oh don'
14:02:11 (72492) <badguy> its not man
14:02:13 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the satoshi wheel
14:02:16 (134004) <SJ> when the secret keys for the previous days were clicked on nothing was revealed. They were empty. This is disturbing as it appears that BetCoinDice’s secret keys information has been lifted directly from the SatoshiDice website
14:02:21 (710) <drfred> as bitpro did prove earlier, he's an expert about security Wink
14:02:21 (134004) <SJ> how is that provably fair??
14:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:02:43 (72492) <badguy> Tradefortress revealed their fairness is a scam
14:02:50 (70603) <life> 19:01:17 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they offer provable gaming, have financial security
14:02:50 (72492) <badguy> in the forum some time ago
14:02:51 (70603) <life> 19:02:28 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its not
14:03:09 (168205) <wanda> TIL bitcoincasinopro isn't a pro at anything
14:03:15 (134004) <SJ> so bitcoincasinopro is just takin gthe money to keep them a+ then so loses all respect
14:03:25 (70603) <life> bcpro is a paid fraud shill from the beginning
14:03:31 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nah
14:03:32 (710) <drfred> looks like that, yes
14:03:33 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/betcoin-network/betcoin-circle-playing-unfair-network-downgraded/
14:03:38 (72492) <badguy> for real Cheesy
14:04:51 (72492) <badguy> bcp what you are showing is nonsense
14:04:53 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you even have their link right there on the front page
14:05:06 (134004) <SJ> so im sorry but youre promoting an obvious scam site for money
14:05:09 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i exposed them for not offering a fair wheel
14:05:15 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> that portion has been downgraded
14:05:23 (134004) <SJ> take their link off your front page
14:05:24 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> how is that not fair?
14:05:52 (134004) <SJ> on your front page under dice sites part way down they are the first site listed
14:05:56 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you for that
14:06:44 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they cheated me directly on the wheel prior to offering provable gaming for it
14:06:49 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i lost 2 btc out of it
14:07:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> dont act like Im not a player as you all are right?
14:07:02 (197637) <Vani> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com is that your website?
14:07:03 (134004) <SJ> take them off your front page
14:07:03 (168205) <wanda> we need to make a website that rates websites that rates casinos.
14:07:09 (72492) <badguy> you just said they paid you 25btc
14:07:29 (710) <drfred> @wanda: I'm so in on that Cheesy
14:07:34 (134004) <SJ> why would you have a scam site listed first on the front page under dice sites?
14:07:42 (710) <drfred> meta-rating
14:07:47 (72492) <badguy> SJ its also A+ rated!!!
14:07:51 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> the dice is provable fair they use blockchain
14:08:22 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I will ask the seasoned vets to review the gaming fairness again
14:08:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> and just for the record tradefortress was one that validated that it is indeed fair
14:08:38 (134004) <SJ> bitcoincasinopro you are a sellout
14:08:45 (134004) <SJ> ive just lost all respect for your site and you
14:08:53 (168205) <wanda> +1
14:09:01 (72492) <badguy> tradefortress is the one that revealed their fairness is fake!!!
14:09:08 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> originally
14:09:12 (72492) <badguy> you schill
14:09:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> than went to posting it was legitimate
14:09:26 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> I kept the records
14:09:48 (134004) <SJ> how much did they pay you to be first site listed on front page under dice sites?
14:09:55 (72492) <badguy> wanda +1 on the idea , we really need a review site to filter people like bcp Cheesy
14:10:00 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they didn't pay for that elite spot
14:10:12 (134004) <SJ> so why do you have a scam site there then
14:10:12 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> they paid a yearly fee to be included
14:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A+
14:13:50 (168205) <wanda> i skipped to the bottom of that document, saw a bitcoin address right next to an A+ rating logo
14:13:51 (72492) <badguy> if tomorrow i come up with a dice site and pay you, ill get A+ too, then i scam people and go away
14:13:54 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> Bitzino A+ dont earn a penny there
14:14:07 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site simple as that
14:14:14 (134004) <SJ> because they line your pockets

14:14:30 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> i have declined many offers sorta like bit companies
14:14:37 (710) <drfred> hahahahaha 13:13:47 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> again i lose money promoting just-dice and they A
14:14:40 (710) <drfred> weird logic
14:14:48 (72492) <badguy> ^^^
14:14:52 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> http://www.bitcoincasinopro.com/reviews/bitwin-casino/
14:14:52 (134004) <SJ> youre protecting a scam site BCP its so obvious and simple
14:17:12 (168205) <wanda> bcp you have 0 integrity
14:17:14 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> you know what
14:17:20 (72492) <badguy> you are a fucking joke
14:17:21 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> 10+ have complained about the rating
14:17:32 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> peoples thoughts are one of the bigger factors
14:17:36 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> lets calculate
14:17:39 (168205) <wanda> no 1 cares
14:17:43 (168205) <wanda> ur a joke
14:17:48 (134004) <SJ> you and your site is a joke BCP really,
14:17:56 (72492) <badguy> hahahaha
14:18:07 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> BCP Overall Rating B+ Software A+ Financial Security A+ Dice Promotions A+ Player Feedback C-
14:18:20 (134004) <SJ> how much do i need to pay you get my site listed first with a+ rating, how much does that cost
14:18:25 (72492) <badguy> changing your own rating because others are calling you out?Huh
14:18:35 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> its been published
14:18:37 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> nothing has changed
14:18:44 (134004) <SJ> how much does it cost bcp?
14:18:48 (134004) <SJ> whats your bribe rates
14:18:58 (157854) <bitcoincasinopro> ratings cannot be bought
14:18:59 (168205) <wanda> can i get a discounted bribe rate?
14:19:02 (72492) <badguy> man go hide in a cave
14:19:09 (134004) <SJ> youve proved they can be bought
14:19:15 (134004) <SJ> how much does a+ cost
14:19:19 (70603) <life> 12btc

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Oh and we are not an entity of SBR and have never claimed of being one.

I never claimed you are an entity of SBR, I was merely doing a comparison with a company you claimed that you have been a source of for 10 years.



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It seems like he wants to promote particular brands on his site to look more popular than others by paying people to post comments for these brands, who of course go through moderation.




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After a long hiatus from using Bitcoin, I have returned, to see many new casinos and games. The one thing that is extremely irritating is Alan Karre Jr's Bitcoin Casino Pro SCAM. Anybody can see that he has no idea how Bitcoin works.

Date Registered:   August 14, 2013, 01:37:47 PM

How is this guy even qualified to run a Bitcoin website?

ADMITTING HE IS A LIAR, AND LYING ABOUT HIS AFFILIATE PROGRAMS

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Bitcoincasinopro.com does not partake in any type of revenue sharing or affiliate programs.

I found these redirects on your website, and I'm completely sure there are more:
http://777coin.com/?ref=2057
https://bitbook.biz/?referer=posterak

If these are not affiliate programs, what are they?

Yet another blatant lie from bitcoin casino "pro". Do you really think people are too stupid to understand what you've written in your "disclosure notice"? That is very insulting.



FAKE LINKS TO TRICK USERS INTO PLAYING ON THE WRONG WEBSITE

As you can see, the link to Satoshi Dice is redirecting to BitZino instead.

All of the links to dice, poker, and circle sites are pointing to Alan's friends' websites. Last time I checked, nether Satoshi Dice or Seals with Clubs had anything to do with BitZino.

Are they not paying you enough to deserve a link that actually directs back to their website Alan?

DO NOT TRUST bitcoin casino pro. Any gambling company that has advertised on bitcoin casino pro should be ASHAMED.
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