To compile a list of all currently known uses for blockchain and its effects and debate the pros's and cons.

Firstly a couple of refereneces

http://radar.oreilly.com/2015/01/understanding-the-blockchain.html

http://wpengine.com/blog/block-chain-could-be-bigger-than-bitcoin/

To start the ball rolling

1 Real property ownership use easements , mortgages encumbrances and leases ..reduction in Court cases on ownership claims easier ability to demonstrate ownership and provide "unquestionable" documentary evidence

2 Stock / share bond ownership/ transfer and dividend records

3 Births Deaths marriages divorces  children... Clear unambiguos and hard to contest or fake records + instant and inexpensive in labor and cost access

4 Licensing records  drivers/ business permits

5 general property ownership leasing and mortgages..  boats Cars commercial vehicles  planes

6 Citizenship status Passport records  ...travel history

7 Credit history 

8 Government  income and expenditure.. tax records

9 Business revenue /expenditure and profitability/ dividends

10 Cost analysis and monitoring of vehicle fleets transportation costs..Order dispatch  location and delivery tracking and confirmation.

11 Insurance premium/ payment /claims records

Please add whatever else you can think of

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-03-23/fighting-war-terror-banning-cash


Prohibiting  French residents from making cash payments of more than 1,000 euros, down from the current limit of  3,000 euros.

 

Given the parlous state of the stagnating French economy the limit for foreign tourists on currency payments will remain higher, at 10,000 euros down from the current limit of 15,000 euros.

 

The threshold below which a French resident is  free to convert euros into other currencies without having to show an identity card will be slashed from the current level of 8,000 euros to 1,000 euros.

 

In addition any cash deposit or withdrawal of more than 10,000 euros during a single month will be reported to the French anti-fraud and money laundering agency Tracfin.

 

French authorities will also have to be notified of any freight transfers within the EU exceeding 10,000 euros, including checks, pre-paid cards,

I have included this in bitcoin discussion as using btc to purchase on coinstand is relevant to all btc users


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=999271.new#new

Under what circumstances would you consider using  coinstand to buy goods?
Never
wait and see
If they were substantially cheaper and the site was proven to deliver
I may try it for a test
Cant wait want to use it now and for ever
I would only buy with bitcoin

edit. If you havent seen it yet here is an example

https://i.imgur.com/zKtwwkF.png

With the paycoin communtiy expecting coinstand to give a boost it may be helpful to conduct a poll for everyones consumption to indicate what potential coinstand has with EXISTING crypto users.

Non-profits and charities accepting bitcoins are already benefiting. These organizations typically rely on donations to survive, by accepting bitcoin donations opens them up to new opportunities that are otherwise not possible.

http://www.visualcapitalist.com/bitcoin-changing-face-non-profits/

Where are daily volume and weighted dollar average data for paycoin to be found?

I have looked at cryptsy charts which show ONLY 63k coins on Jan 1st traded  71k on 2nd and 130k on 3rd. this is small.

Coinswap has been showing an average btc volume of about 130 btc or $40,000 ish Today its showing 83btc in 24h hrs as I post.

None of this seems to be a significant part of the 12.375 million coins on the blockchain.

Paybase may well be taking the brunt of the sales but where is the data?  isnt crypto supposed to be transparent?

How can I find this?

Edit

Ok I have found this

http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/volume/24-hour/


http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/paycoin2/

are paybase purchases of paycoin in this data or is not yet disclosed?

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/tv/tvshows/perspectives#

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/tv/tvshows/perspectives/this-month-show

Can't find a link yet to the program where the audience ask questions and the panel respond . Some of the panels positions can be found here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO4jHXjCXw8&feature=youtu.be

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2o8vt7/mastercards_perspective_on_bitcoin_sourgrapes/  

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/tv/tvshows/perspectives/koh-chia-ling-bitcoin-has/1505784.html

What is the probability that the reason for the non movement of Satoshi coins is that the private key has been lost ( and what implications does this have?)?

As wallets have become more secure would these coins not be moved to something considered "safer" ?

When was a large chunk last moved? If it was years ago does this not support the likelihood of a lost key and the inability to access these coins?

If there is proof/indication that these are still active/ accessible it would be nice to see that to put my mind at rest .

If there is no convincing proof of continued access then this article can be ignored.

http://www.coindesk.com/dangerous-satoshi-nakamoto/



Satoshi certainly has a lot of funds. Bitcoin security consultant Sergio Lerner's oft-cited analysis puts the figure at around 1m BTC, based on the early mining that he or she did.

Most of those coins were unspent, the exceptions being some test transactions during the first ten days after Satoshi mined the genesis block (the first block on the blockchain).

For Libertarian leaning members

Where can bitcoin help here?

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-31/meet-rolling-jubilee-group-buying-tearing-student-loans


An offshoot of 'Occupy Wall Street' is taking the $1.2 trillion student loan bubble, debt servitude dilemma of America's youth into its own hands... bit by tiny bit. As The BBC reports, activist group 'Rolling Jubilee' wants to "liberate debtors" by buying student-debt-bundled ABS on the secondary market (where they trade at significant discounts) and writing off the underlying loans. As Rolling Jubilee notes,

An activist group in the United States has been carrying out deeds that some might think the stuff of dreams - buying and cancelling other people's student debts.

Rolling Jubilee has purchased and abolished $3.8m (£2.35m) of debt owed by 2,700 students, paying just over $100,000 (£62,000), or as it says, "pennies on the dollar".

 

http://rollingjubilee.org/

http://strikedebt.org/

http://strikedebt.org/caq-buy-my-debt/

http://strikedebt.org/act/

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Strike-Debt/244850825627699

https://rally.org/strikedebt

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-12/panic-streets-london-can-scotland-ever-be-same-again


If they copy the Isle of Mann and have a crypto currency and tax haven friendly environment they may benefit to a large degree. The Uk may also be able to have their cake and eat it with both "countries" jumping from one set of rules and tax regime as they see fit.

The UK can circumvent some of the uglier rules of the EC and European central bank using Scotland who do not automatically become part of the Union of megla maniacs in Brussles.

Scotland can compensate/circumvent any disadvantages from not being an EU member by using the UK as a base for certain industries.

Looks to me that Pro Union politicians ( 3 major parties) have to go through the motions of fighting for a no vote to appease the rest of the EU but could they secretly want it to be yes ?  

Even if its not officially backed it could well exist and gain traction beside whatever Alex Salmond et al introduce after a period using the UK pound and it seems many are hoping so with scotcoin booming in the last 24hrs

https://www.facebook.com/scotcoin

with a paltry market cap of $160,000 a few hours ago..what if it gets to $1,000,000  or $10M  or $1 billion?

What if Alec Salmond promotes its use beside his stated intention to continue to use the UK pound ....until it reaches critical size?

http://www.yesscotland.net/answers/what-currency-will-independent-scotland-have


https://www.google.com.ph/search?q=scotland+considers+bitcoin+for+its+new+currency&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=sb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=3poSVNrlL-KJ8Qf4kYDYAw#rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb&q=scotcoin

[how scary it is to learn that, apparently, 97 per cent of the money in the world is in fact debt.]

Nevertheless extremely interesting

http://www.fourhorsemenfilm.com/

http://rt.com/shows/documentary/186572-global-economy-new-paradigm/

liked by rottentomatoes



This is a film perhaps better suited to DVD, simply because there are thoughts here of such profundity you might feel the need to reach for the rewind button. I, for one, have been left substantially enlightened.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/four_horsemen_2012/

Four Horsemen is a lo-fi doc that everyone interested in the global flow of money should see. Even if we are superficially aware of our collective financial troubles, Four Horsemen offers more than a cursory skim the Financial Times to deliver a passionate and direct explanation.

The film sheds light on the arcane details of economic practices. Illustrating its points through simple yet effective diagrams, it proves just how easy it can be to understand how money works and just how scary it is to learn that, apparently, 97 per cent of the money in the world is in fact debt.



http://www.littlewhitelies.co.uk/theatrical-reviews/four-horsemen-18255




http://rivendellbooks.com/wordpress/2014/08/18/real-legacy-last-thirty-years/

[.Xapo..PLEASE get those cards delivered faster!!!!!!!]

Apart from the 2 Airlines that accept bitcon directly for tickets

http://www.coindesk.com/air-lituanica-shows-bitcoins-use-travel-taking-flight/

ALL airlines that accept debit/credit cards for payment..(which is about 100%) can issue tickets with payment via Xapo bitcoin loaded debit card.

Note ..Xapo..PLEASE get those cards delivered faster!!!!!!!

Cost comparison

1Apart from $ purchases in the USA which will incur an additional 3% cost. If you pay  in local/ home / non US$ currency there is effectively a 3% cost to use Xapo but it may well be the case that the $ ticket price and the local currency ticket price has a similar ( or worse) price differential as airlines make the majority of their payments ( fuel/airport fees etc) in $'s so it is VERY likely that in this scenario using Xapo is equal or better to using local non $ denominated currency.

2 If you are buying a ticket in a foreign country and you are $/Euro or UK pound (card/income) base the transaction fees and exchange rate spread charged to you will 90% + of the time be equal or worse than the 3% Xapo cost.

So Once you FINALLY get a Xapo card any airline ticket may be purchased and that price will be competitive or better depending which country you are buying it in and what is your home currency.!

Examples

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2011/jan/23/booking-flight-airline-websites

Advantage of buying return ticket from the foreign Country you are traveling to

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7105307


That actual works as well, don't book anything from South Africa I found out as I was booking my mates flights. You could knock several hundred off by going through an Australian or UK proxy. I believe from memory it was the same agency as well. Just changing the domain brought up vastly different prices on the same flights.

But no as I mentioned above lots of holiday destinations have cheap tickets inbound, but out bound are expensive. I first noticed it travelling from London to Croatia.

It was like $200 flight to Split, but the flight home was double or triple. I hopped on a proxy, and found I could get the reverse deal from Split to London. $200 to London, $600 back home to split. So I started gaming the system.

The agencies are hedging on the fact you have to take the return flight. So they coerce you into the cheap flight to location X, but claw the money back with the return flight which I guess the vast majority of people have to take.

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[millions of merchants now accept bitcoin since 3 weeks ago.]

How many merchants? millions? Really ?

Apart from the bitpay 50,000 ish merchants etc..millions of merchants now accept bitcoin since 3 weeks ago...but may not know it yet

Xapo card can be used internationally at ANY merchant who accepts traditional debit/credit cards.

Although currently there is a 3% cost as time passes this will reduce ( to zero most probably) It is important to note that buying your cigs at home has a 3% extra cost but buying them when abroad is up to 5% cheaper ( exchange rate spread up to 5% in worst cases plus 2.5% +1% fees when buying in a foreign country)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=736643.msg8323871#msg8323871

For example, Tennessee is a low-price state, where $100 will buy what would cost $110.25 in another state that is closer to the national average. You can think of this as meaning that Tennesseans are about ten percent richer than their nominal incomes suggest.

The states where $100 is worth the least are the District of Columbia ($84.60), Hawaii ($85.32), New York ($86.66), New Jersey ($87.64), and California ($88.57). That same money goes the furthest in Mississippi ($115.74), Arkansas ($114.16), Missouri ($113.51), Alabama (113.51), and South Dakota ($113.38).

A person who makes $40,000 a year after tax in Kentucky would need to have after-tax earnings of $53,000 in Washington, DC just in order to have an equal standard of living, let alone feel richer.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-24/whats-100-really-worth-each-state
 

Opportunities for bitcoins was one of the topics at the Geeks on a Beach conference held at the Mövenpick Hotel Mactan Island last Friday.

Not many know how bitcoins can be exchanged or used but Nick Sullivan of ChangeCoin believes that with time, more people will appreciate using bitcoins to purchase things online. He added that with many overseas Filipinos sending their money back to the Philippines, they will appreciate using bitcoins.


http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/business/2014/08/24/companies-see-bitcoin-s-potential-ph-361554

and it is ..... coming to Boracay Island Oct 1st with 10% discount for bitcoin payments.

Bitcoin accepted with 10% discount for pre booked sulit amakan rooms Boracay from Sept 15th more to follow https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005312025087&fref=ts

[In addition, Rosselhoznadzor intends in the future to move to a system of electronic certification of goods in transit.]

I am sure it can be done....but how? good suggestions may be copied to interested Governments


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-22/russia-busts-european-sanctioned-fruit-smuggling-ring


Russia's food safety ministry Rosselhoznadzor has discovered fruit being smuggled in via Belarus that was restamped as being from Zimbabwe and various other non-sanctioned nations. It appears the smuggling nation culprits are Poland, Slovenia, and Greece and Russia is now "actively monitoring the situation," suggesting they may extend import bans to Belarus also if the situation continues. In addition, Rosselhoznadzor intends in the future to move to a system of electronic certification of goods in transit.

I see a lot of posts about tax

For business users and miners based in USA EU that is an issue ..that needs a smart accountant/firm but if you gain from speculation how is that a big problem? If you are inclined to convert to fiat why not do so in one of the many tax free/low tax countries?




http://nomadcapitalist.com/2013/11/24/top-5-livable-countries-income-tax/


take your pick

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates

[Hopefully, you have the sense to see how this works: problem, reaction, solution.]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-15/order-out-chaos-doctrine-runs-world


Order Out Of Chaos: The Doctrine That Runs The World

Hopefully, you have the sense to see how this works: problem, reaction, solution. Economic or physical war is launched between East and West, while the dollar is killed in the process. The masses react by demanding a fair and balanced replacement for the dollar as world reserve so that economic stability can return. The Americans blame Russia and the East for their fiscal misfortune. The East blames the hubris of the West for its own downfall. Neither side blames the banksters, who started the whole calamity to begin with. And the elites swoop in as saviors with a new Bretton Woods-style agreement to appease all sides and cement their global currency system, the system they had always wanted. And with a global economic currency and authority in place, global governance is not far behind — order out of chaos.

every seller has a buyer. When comparing dollar volume May 1-15 to Aug 1-15     $470 Million vs $910 Million..who bought the $440 Million difference and why? Yes .trading more volume is the reason but who is ending up with these coins from the sellers who do not re-buy?

http://www.quandl.com/BCHAIN/ETRVU-Bitcoin-Estimated-Transaction-Volume-USD

(click ..show data table at bottom)



2014-08-15       70,769,052
2014-08-14       71,895,364
2014-08-13       68,379,694
2014-08-12       61,158,740
2014-08-11       43,216,125
2014-08-10       32,787,195
2014-08-09       54,302,397
2014-08-08       45,449,194
2014-08-07       59,188,716
2014-08-06       67,991,855
2014-08-05       79,118,450
2014-08-04       62,191,353
2014-08-03       29,031,951
2014-08-02       43,348,752
2014-08-01       100,060,676






May 15   46,127,940
May 14   48,513,550
May13    36,980,698
May12    30,389,352
May11    21,490,294
May10    26,280,241
May9     36,496,136
May8     35,810,226
May7     48,283,519
May6     31,858,652
May5     27,165,713
May4     22,701,368
May3     30,993,631
May2     30,977,946
May1     34,892,425