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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Bank of Hodlers: Plagiarism/Corporate Identity Theft on: January 11, 2020, 06:59:53 PM
Website: https://bankofhodlers.com/
Archived website: https://web.archive.org/web/20200111182649/https://bankofhodlers.com/
Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5175165.0 - bounty, no ANN thread found
Archived thread: https://web.archive.org/web/20200110223311/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216466.new
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2498653
What happened: Plagiarized the Company Culture section of its website from Netflix

Plagiarized: https://bankofhodlers.com/culture
Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20200111183702/https://bankofhodlers.com/culture
Source: https://jobs.netflix.com/culture
Archived Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20200111183943/https://jobs.netflix.com/culture


Full Picture:
I must confess that posting this was very conflicting - I mean who reads crypto Company Culture when there's the mammoth task of going through WP? I also thought of filing this under "Imitation is the most sincere form of flattery" before coming to the conclusion that there is a clear cut difference between basing a company culture on something admired and copypasting their culture wholesale without any acknowledgement. It begs the question "who are you?" - if all you're doing is appropriating another's company culture wholesale in an industry where developers have a nasty habit of vanishing into the ether. Coupled with the fact that this was a DeFi platform and handling data, I felt it was best to bring their "corner-cutting" approach and let the community be the judge of.

Here are some snippets

BOH

Netflix


BOH

Netflix


BOH

Netflix
2  Economy / Scam Accusations / SteemDiamond: A Scam on: January 10, 2020, 10:47:23 PM
Website: https://steemdiamond.com/
Archived website: https://web.archive.org/web/20200110223218/https://steemdiamond.com/
Bitcointalk thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216466
Archived thread: https://web.archive.org/web/20200110223311/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5216466.new
Profile link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1225279
What happened: Steem-like site for phishing with plagiarized content

Created a steem-link site after signing up, one gets to the original steemit registration page. The OP also plagiarized content from this: https://tokenpost.com/A-look-at-the-Steem-ecosystem-Leveraging-blockchain-to-tokenize-online-content-1503 and this: https://steemit.com/steemit/@jsutich/what-is-the-difference-between-steem-and-steem-dollars.

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Domain:steemdiamond.com
Registrar:NameCheap, Inc.
Registered On:2020-01-03
Expires On:2021-01-03
Updated On:2020-01-03
Status:clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:dns1.registrar-servers.com
dns2.registrar-servers.com

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Name:WhoisGuard Protected
Organization:WhoisGuard, Inc.
Street:P.O. Box 0823-03411
City:Panama
State:Panama
Country:PA
Phone:+507.8365503
Fax:+51.17057182
Email:email@whoisguard.com
3  Economy / Reputation / Reporting Bounty Article Plagiarism on: April 19, 2019, 04:34:55 PM
Currently managing a bounty and while I do understand that English is not everybody's first language (it's not mine either) and some people will "translate" WP content as articles, that does not excuse copying someone else's work and submitting it as yours. It's criminal.

Without further ado, here are my current findings taken from this spreadsheet: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1KPtCsDFH3PzScg0PcpOqPtMxIqP1Rev5Mm13mwAVeUQ


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BTT Username: maman567
Evidence: Submitted this article: https://web.archive.org/web/20190419161411/https://steemit.com/s/@lukman23/miracletele-ico-project-review is a plagiarized copy of a 2017 article: https://web.archive.org/web/20190419161540/https://buzzcryptos.com/mobile-google-ceo-promises-11-daydream-compatible-phones/
Further Evidence: maman is an alt of MRey based on the similarities of their steemit account name and the profile picture used

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4  Economy / Reputation / Igor Karavaev - ICOBench Expert - Impersonator - Resolved on: March 23, 2019, 11:02:29 AM
I'm currently working with MiracleTele as their SMM and recently got a message via Facebook from Igor Karavaev proposing a "paid-for" rating on ICOBench which I promptly turned down only for him to threaten that he and his colleagues "will significantly lower your ICOBench account" if we do not pay 0.5 BTC to his account. Not even remotely scared about the blackmail threat or even been reviewed bombed since Miracletele already has a working Sim card product and services in 160+ countries, just stunned that the stories about how scammy ICOBench has gotten are true. Below are the screens:






5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Igor Karavaev - ICOBench Expert - Impersonator - Resolved on: March 23, 2019, 11:02:25 AM
I'm currently working with MiracleTele as their SMM and recently got a message via Facebook from Igor Karavaev proposing a "paid-for" rating on ICOBench which I promptly turned down only for him to threaten that he and his colleagues "will significantly lower your ICOBench account" if we do not pay 0.5 BTC to his account. Not even remotely scared about the blackmail threat or even been reviewed bombed since Miracletele already has a working Sim card product and services in 160+ countries, just stunned that the stories about how scammy ICOBench has gotten are true. Below are the screens:






6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Ethereum Constantinople Airdrop Scam on: March 02, 2019, 02:12:46 AM
Name: Ethereum Constantinople
Website: https://ethereum-constantinople.com/
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115788.0
Archived ANN: https://web.archive.org/web/20190302020422/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5115788.0
Archived Site: https://web.archive.org/web/20190302020716/https://ethereum-constantinople.com/, https://web.archive.org/web/20190302020741/https://ethereum-constantinople.com/wallet/
Status: Operational 1:1 Airdrop of ETHC for ETH holders



The site went as far as cloning MEW to have users enter their private key



The OP claims they are not affiliated with the project and is just a fan... a newbie fan... yeah right, water is certainly not wet
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / VriCoin - Fake Team/Stolen Identity on: January 30, 2019, 07:36:57 PM
ICO Name: VriCoin
Website:  https://www.vricoin.io
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103984.0
Archived Site: https://web.archive.org/web/20190130185212/https://www.vricoin.io/
Archived ANN: https://web.archive.org/web/20190130185214/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103984.0

Came across the announcement of Vricoin and went to their site for a quick evaluation only to find the site replete with grammatical and syntax error. No crime in that. However, when the content you're reading cannot make up its mind on something as elementary as "blockchain" and "block-chain", certain red flags start to flutter in the wind.

Decided to check up on the team and here's where it starts to get extremely colourful starting with the CSO, James Lee.

Who also happens to be onboard another badly worded and formatted blockchain project; Ian-coin


Of course, English is not everybody's first language - certainly not mine too. However, a look at partners for VriCoin and IanCoin begins to show certain similarities:

VirCoin Partners

IanCoin Partners


Of course, partnership is not an exclusive affair. The same with advisors - speaking of which, I decided to start digging into their advisors and turned up with the first fake profile. Meet DR, ROMAN SAMAREY

Problem is the good doctor is not a doctor, but poker player Oliver Blakey:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliverblakey/

My attention quickly went back to the rest of the team, where the features of an ANDREY VOLKOV just didn't look that Slavic at all

Turns out the real identity belongs to Taisei Hosino, a team member of Baasid, also on ICOBench


At this point, both the circumstential and concrete evidence points to a carefully selected blend of stolen and real identities to try and pass as the real McCoy
8  Economy / Reputation / Stellar Activity: Yet Another XLM Forking Scam on: January 22, 2019, 07:29:58 PM
ICO Name: Stellar Activity
Website:  https://stellar-activity.org/ (cached version: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LR_WMhOGDHQJ:https://stellar-activity.org/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ng&client=firefox-b-ab)
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068729.0
Archived: https://web.archive.org/save/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068729.0
ICO status: 1:2 Fork of XLM

Telegram channel asks you to claim your XLA from https://xlawallet.com/#!/


The website asks you to enter your XLM private key for claiming XLA and poof. Then, examining the site in dev console shows this:



Oh boy...
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Stellarforce is a clone of Stellar Activity on: January 21, 2019, 09:16:48 PM
ICO Name: StellarForce
Website: https://stellarforce.org
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099212
Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190121205916/https://stellarforce.org/
Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190121210218/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099212
ICO status: 1:1 fork of XLM plus ICO

Stellar Activity does not exist anymore save for an empty directory. However, the magic of google cache brought back the word-for-word similarities between its Whitepaper with a 2:1 fork ratio and the recent 1:1 fork of Stellarforce. Observe:

StellarForce Executive Summary and ICO offering pages





Stellar Activity Executive Summary and ICO offering pages





Need I say more?

May the Stellar Force not be an Activity for you

Stellar Activity ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5068729.0
Stellar Activity seems to be plagiarised too. Gathering evidence. Will compile and tag later
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Ethereum Advanced Scam - Clone of ETCV on: January 21, 2019, 08:17:55 PM
ICO Name: Ethereum Advanced
Website: https://ethereum-advanced.com
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100313.new
Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190121210139/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5100313.new
Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190121210140/https://ethereum-advanced.com/
ICO status: 3:1 Fork of ETH

Everything from layout out the ANN to website, fork ratio and Whitepaper is a word-for-word copypaste of ETCV barring a few color swap and paragraph rearrangements.

Ethereum Advanced WP:
ETCV WP:
11  Economy / Scam Accusations / Fruitcoin Scam - Fake Team on: January 20, 2019, 06:08:11 PM
ICO Name: Fruitcoin
Website: https://fruitofficial.com/
Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190120174911/https://fruitofficial.com/
Archived: http://archive.is/b3KS2
ICO status: Upcoming.

These guys seems to have some crypto heavyweights behind them:



Guess that's what David Drake looks like in an alt universe, but in this world, he looks like this:



Vladimir Nikitin looks like this too:

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Turns out the whole site is a rip-off of this theme: http://www.demo-ninetheme.com/cryptoland/home-6/

The creator seems to be looking to put together a free team too: http://web.archive.org/web/20190120181902/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5099074.0/
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Regulations and the Future of DEXs on: November 09, 2018, 09:01:28 AM
With the SEC charging and fining the founder of Etherdelta for unregistered securities trading on the exchange (https://www.coindesk.com/expect-the-sec-to-target-more-token-exchanges-after-etherdelta/), seems like the SEC would rather go for the source of liquidity for unregistered securities rather than track down issuers. With well over 2000 cryptos in the market, makes sense to devote resources in collaring exchanges first (after identifying unregistered securities) rather than spreading themselves too thinly in the hunt for issuers.

So, what happens next?

1. Folks will flock to Malta to open their DEXs?
2. DEXs will issue "WE DON'T SERVE AMERICANS" notice?
3. Get IP restrictions and KYC like IDEX?
4. No orderbook like Airswap?
5. Or we just got sit tight with CEXs again?

 The times truly are changing
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Neluns - The Next Exit Scam after Raising Over $100 million? on: November 04, 2018, 05:28:15 PM
Neluns thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4694028.0 exhibits all the hallmarks of a botted thread with numerous newbie accounts raining platitude about the project, answering each other, and completely ignoring questions directed to them. But that's not the problem

Neluns claims to be registered in NYC and SEC compliant. However, for such an "American" company, they seem to quite incapable of finding that one English dude to write their PR as exemplified here: https://medium.com/@iconeluns/the-manhattan-blockchain-fund-is-an-anchor-investor-of-neluns-b2d99656eb12

Then, you've got the "Binance List in Progress" thingy on their site. Anybody who's been around long enough knows NDA prevents startups from naming exchanges they are in discussion with (at least the top 50), not to mention stamping it on their homepage.

Then you've got this Russian language investigation put together by a very astute and concerned community member: https://ttrcoin.com/threads/neluns-io-scam.2796/

Concerned by all these, I went into their TG channel to alert them to the concerns on BTT. Next thing I knew, I got the boot.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / BQT - One P2P Exchange to Rule them All... on: September 26, 2018, 08:21:17 AM
P2P Exchanges carry one unique advantage — People deal with People. It provides unmatched flexibility in a decentralized trading environment
BQT is bringing something new to the exchange market, a truly unique combination of Option-Margin-Auction in each trade.  Trader Peers can dictate/negotiate the conditions of each trade and post it for an “auction” against other peer traders to compete against the multiple offers.  This makes honest market dealing for traders and fixes significant fees for the company revenue model. Not only that, traders can create their own option/margin call and acquire additional crypto assets from other trader peers.
And not only that... here is the triple-impact aspect of BQT model  –
1. traders will be able to utilize BQTX tokens to pay for transaction fees and receive a discount,
2. traders can boost up their Hedge trades by providing additional leverage with BQTX tokens and
3. company would be setting aside 30% of its revenues to buy-back their tokens from the market and immediately burn them. 
This is a win-win strategy all around – traders win, investors win, the company wins.
Main sales is ongoing here: https://bqt.io/
While beta platform is already out and can be trialled here: http://www.bqtexchange.com/register 

15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / 🔥🔥🔥 PHItoken's Tell A Friend Bounty Campaign! 🔥🔥🔥 on: September 11, 2018, 06:33:53 AM


As part of our upcoming marketing drive, we've have launched the “Tell-a-Friend” program to improve the number of users of the EXANTE Crypto platform with a bounty reward in PHI Tokens. Below are the details of the promotion, please read carefully:

To Start
• Go to https://beta.exantecrypto.com/d/index.ic
Sign up and verify your email address and mobile to ensure you can participate in the bounty.


Rewards
• In this campaign you will receive credits for work done.
• Each credit is redeemable for 1 PHItoken.
• The minimum redeemable amount is 250 credits.


What to do
• Suggest your friends email addresses for promotion and for each one you will receive 3 credits; the maximum number of emails that can be reported is 55.
• We will send an email invitation on your behalf to the email addresses submitted, explaining the advantages of EXANTE Crypto for the selection and active management of Crypto Assets.
• For each friend who registers, you will get another 8 credits, for a maximum of an additional 440 credits.
• For each person who decides to use EXANTE Crypto, synchronising their Wallet and proving to possess the PHI Tokens deposited in it, you will acquire another 34 Credits. This means that if all 55 people are using the platform after September 21 you could get another 1870 Credits.
• This incentivized model has been designed to ensure that those directing investors to the platform genuinely seek to communicate interested people and not fake or random entities.
        

We have set a budget of 75,025 PHI Tokens to be allocated to the first phase of the campaign. Based on the success of this campaign we will adjust the figures for stage 2 accordingly.

To redeem Credits, you will need to send an email to info@phitoken.io and ask for the redemption of credits and the transfer into your PHI Token wallet. Remember, a minimum of 250 credits are required before you can redeem them.

Hurry up and sign up now. Offer is limited!!!
https://beta.exantecrypto.com/d/index.ic
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN][ICO] 🚀🚀 ElementsEstates: Token of your Real Estate opportunity!🚀🚀 on: September 04, 2018, 08:18:38 AM


Website | Whitepaper | MVP | LinkedIn | Telegram | Twitter | Facebook | Youtube | Medium | Reddit

Elements Estates is creating a unique investment opportunity for the real estate industry derived from distressed assets in the South East Europe(SEE) region through Blockchain technology. Lead by a world-class team with a proven track record in the region, Elements Estates is unlocking the real estate market in ways never before attempted on the blockchain, enabling investors to identify the sweet spot between entry and exit for maximum profitability of the utility cryptocurrency fueling its ecosystem, ELES token



The post-recession period of 2008 financial crash has opened a floodgate demand for distressed assets in Europe. The financial crisis caused the biggest relapse in payment of mortgages all over Europe. Notwithstanding the decade-old disaster, real estate has always been a relatively lush and stable sector for short and long-term investments. But to truly unleash the potentials of this industry, experts have, increasingly, been calling for greater transparency and security of all exchanges. A solution that is not only immutable and cannot be tampered with, but is also readily available to anybody from anywhere in the world regardless of their status



South-East Europe (SEE) is one of the most fertile landscape for distressed assets. The region is regarded as possessing the highest mid-term potential from distressed deals within the EU with an averaged annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth of 2.3% despite being saddled with 130 billion euros in non-performing loans. To remain profitable, banks must keep their NLP at a bare minimum and in some cases, are prepared to sell high-collaterals to clean up NLP and inject capital into their operations. Herein lies the opportunity that sets Element Estates apart from all other “real-estate-on-the-blockchain” platform



Elements Estate is offering investors worldwide seamless and direct access to a diversified portfolio of distressed real estate assets in the South Eastern Europe market (SEE) through blockchain technology. Investors from any location can tap into real estate investments opportunity with zero limitations and zero need for any third-party agencies. Its blockchain backed solution will eliminate the hassles facing the lustrous real estate industry by ensuring that buyer gets their title or deed and the seller gets their cryptocurrency payment.  



Finding the right properties at the right time is time-consuming, coupled with price negotiation, and property renovation, prospective investors are always in bottleneck situations with liquidity issues, dubious agent, and brokers. With Elements Estates, investors only need to have the platform’s tokens to gain access to properties of choice, vote on decisions on the platform or simply be a part of the ecosystem





Our aim is to offer everyone the opportunity to benefit from distressed and undervalued real estate asset opportunities linked to the Blockchain. To be able to do so and enable above-average liquidity of the token, we have designed the entire process in a way that the ELES token will be the only means of payment for all services and properties in our portfolio, and that the token supply will decrease with every transaction.



The ELES platform will combine the safety and stability of the real estate sector, the high-profit potential of distressed real estate deals and the transparency of the Blockchain. This will support substantial growth of the token value





The development of the ELES platform will take from 6 to 9 months after the Initial Coin Offering (ICO). Decisions on projects, which will be used as an underlying base, will be based on all standard analyses (quantitative, qualitative, static and dynamic with cash-flow projections), checked with our real estate advisors from CBRE, Colliers, or others, and on an algorithm developed by the Elements team that considers the level of risk and the associated rate of return









Elements Estates development is lead by a team of industry veterans who have worked on the acquisition of some of the most important distressed assets in South-Eastern Europe. The team’s proven track record also involves acting as advisor to hedge funds from Western Europe to the US. With this technical and managerial expertise, the platform is establishing a private corporate fund that will fuel the growth of real estate across Europe, governed by smart contracts and Elements estate native token, the ELES





17  Other / Archival / EE on: September 03, 2018, 11:35:24 PM


Website | Whitepaper | MVP | LinkedIn | Telegram | Twitter | Youtube | Medium

Elements Estates is creating a unique investment opportunity for the real estate industry derived from distressed assets in the South East Europe(SEE) region through Blockchain technology. Lead by a world-class team with a proven track record in the region, Elements Estates is unlocking the real estate market in ways never before attempted on the blockchain, enabling investors to identify the sweet spot between entry and exit for maximum profitability of the utility cryptocurrency fueling its ecosystem, ELES token



The post-recession period of 2008 financial crash has opened a floodgate demand for distressed assets in Europe. The financial crisis caused the biggest relapse in payment of mortgages all over Europe. Notwithstanding the decade-old disaster, real estate has always been a relatively lush and stable sector for short and long-term investments. But to truly unleash the potentials of this industry, experts have, increasingly, been calling for greater transparency and security of all exchanges. A solution that is not only immutable and cannot be tampered with, but is also readily available to anybody from anywhere in the world regardless of their status



South-East Europe (SEE) is one of the most fertile landscape for distressed assets. The region is regarded as possessing the highest mid-term potential from distressed deals within the EU with an averaged annual gross domestic product (GDP) growth of 2.3% despite being saddled with 130 billion euros in non-performing loans. To remain profitable, banks must keep their NLP at a bare minimum and in some cases, are prepared to sell high-collaterals to clean up NLP and inject capital into their operations. Herein lies the opportunity that sets Element Estates apart from all other “real-estate-on-the-blockchain” platform



Elements Estate is offering investors worldwide seamless and direct access to a diversified portfolio of distressed real estate assets in the South Eastern Europe market (SEE) through blockchain technology. Investors from any location can tap into real estate investments opportunity with zero limitations and zero need for any third-party agencies. Its blockchain backed solution will eliminate the hassles facing the lustrous real estate industry by ensuring that buyer gets their title or deed and the seller gets their cryptocurrency payment.  



Finding the right properties at the right time is time-consuming, coupled with price negotiation, and property renovation, prospective investors are always in bottleneck situations with liquidity issues, dubious agent, and brokers. With Elements Estates, investors only need to have the platform’s tokens to gain access to properties of choice, vote on decisions on the platform or simply be a part of the ecosystem





Our aim is to offer everyone the opportunity to benefit from distressed and undervalued real estate asset opportunities linked to the Blockchain. To be able to do so and enable above-average liquidity of the token, we have designed the entire process in a way that the ELES token will be the only means of payment for all services and properties in our portfolio, and that the token supply will decrease with every transaction.



The ELES platform will combine the safety and stability of the real estate sector, the high-profit potential of distressed real estate deals and the transparency of the Blockchain. This will support substantial growth of the token value





The development of the ELES platform will take from 6 to 9 months after the Initial Coin Offering (ICO). Decisions on projects, which will be used as an underlying base, will be based on all standard analyses (quantitative, qualitative, static and dynamic with cash-flow projections), checked with our real estate advisors from CBRE, Colliers, or others, and on an algorithm developed by the Elements team that considers the level of risk and the associated rate of return









Elements Estates development is lead by a team of industry veterans who have worked on the acquisition of some of the most important distressed assets in South-Eastern Europe. The team’s proven track record also involves acting as advisor to hedge funds from Western Europe to the US. With this technical and managerial expertise, the platform is establishing a private corporate fund that will fuel the growth of real estate across Europe, governed by smart contracts and Elements estate native token, the ELES





18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / ⚡🚀 [ANN][ICO] bZx: Decentralized Margin Trading Powered by bZx ⚡🚀 on: September 01, 2018, 07:20:05 AM




bZx is a protocol for decentralized margin lending and margin trading on the Ethereum blockchain. Short tokens or leverage a position using your favorite 0x relay, all from your Metamask Wallet, Ledger, or Trezor



You can go exchange assets on DEXs to capitalize on gains in price, but you can't short assets to capitalize on falls in price. Neither can you monetize the time-value of your current holdings without losing control of them. bZx makes it possible to generate passive income from your current assets without giving up control while allowing short and margin traders to enter into new types of financial arrangement



A new generation of decentralized exchanges (DEXs) has risen in the wake of the 0x revolution, addressing the security concerns of centralized exchanges, while improving on the innovations of the previous generation. However, these DEXs still remains restrictive due to their inability to support margin lending and trading, forcing market players to continue exposing their assets to security and counter-party risks.




bZx replaces the current custodial infrastructure seen at venues like Bitfinex, Kraken, Poloniex, etc. with a series of trustless smart contracts running on the Ethereum blockchain

















19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Something Fishy with Streamity on: August 17, 2018, 10:31:49 AM
Been following Streamity (https://streamity.org/en/) for a while now and since the ICO ended, the mod on telegram has been saying that the tokens will be unlocked after listing. Decided to fish out the smart contract and check if anything was happening on Forkdelta and behold, there were buy and sell orders: https://forkdelta.app/#!/trade/0x2e8c6bbe8e3aa834ef5a851b2cdfc52403d61b87-ETH

Decides to test the sell order and it went through... meaning contract was unlocked.

I took my findings to the admin on TG and presented the evidence to them. Next thing I know, I got kicked got - out in the cold without a word. Reached out to the other admin on BTT and no response.

Is it just me or something doesn't add up?
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / CENTRA Founders Starting Another Shady ICO - Phantom Core? on: August 11, 2018, 05:56:59 PM
I've been presented with evidence that Centra founders - or at least the developers behind it - have started another ICO that bears certain similarities with CTR and may or may not be a scam. The OP has requested that I present their evidence here and is willing to supply screenshots if necessary to back up their claim. Below is their original post

Hey everyone,

just sharing/warning people to stay clear of phantom.org as it will only make you lose money and time. I'd hate to see another group of people get tricked and over time get screwed hard.

Website: https://alpha.phantom.org/
subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/
Telegram: https://t.me/PhantomCore
Twitter: https://twitter.com/PhantomDotOrg


Background history:

Read:
https://www.crowdfundinsider.com/2018/05/133775-report-centra-tech-founders-plead-not-guilty-in-alleged-fraud-ico/
https://bitcoinist.com/centra-tech-indicted-60-mill-ico-fraud/

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THE CENTRA TECH FRAUD
Sorhab Sharma, Raymond Trapani, and Robert Farkas, the three co-founders of Centra Tech allegedly tried to defraud investors via a token sale. They were all arrested in April 2018 and charged with the same crimes. Commenting on the indictment, Deputy U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Robert Khuzami said that:

So why is this a scam?

Technically it isn't just yet. However you do the math. If founders of an ico that has been built on false statements and deception ran by people who had no prior blockchain exp and were basically just trying stuff out and not really knowing what they were doing was legal or better yet knew they were breaking rules but thought it was worth it... I wouldn't trust these guys to be able to make anything durable.

Can I read their side of the events?

Yea prior to launching this new venture of them they created this medium blog post sharing their side of the events: Dear Centra Community — Let the Truth be known

Clearly it has been well formulated and from reading it you almost feel sorry for them. :p Words can be powerful tool.

So why you so certain?

The first ico I worked for was centra as a volunteer. I was not informed nor had I access to what the founders were up to or if what they shared of info was true or false. I was just "a guy" learning ico's and trying to do my job and gain exp. However I wasn't blind either. Without knowing for sure i did feel that the founders were a bit shady in their actions, communiction towards us mods and in how they conducted themselves in private in the mod room. I had no real proof to be fully convinced so I just did my job, quit and moved to the next ico project. Months later centra got hit with a SEC investigation and stuff went ballistic and I knew at that point all my suspicions were not wrong.

On top of that they are already lying to the people right now and deleting/censoring like they did on Centra.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Phantomcore/comments/951j9u/yes_phantom_is_launching_soon_ask_me_anything/
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Hi Markerone,

The team members are mainly the developers of the project from Centra and new developers, we are working to make a public announcement of whose going to be involved this week as the Foundation is not going to have a specific owner just board members since this is an open-source project.

We are contacting exchanges and in the process to figure out how to get the credits done appropriately.

Thank you.


Sam Sharma and Robert Farkas and most likely other founding members are actually involved on this and are (the real owners). The idea that a spin off group (the devs are owners aka board members) not controlled or in the pocket off the centra founders is 10%. Just ridiculous.

You could twist this into them being victims in this story of the us government; but if they did their jobs and token sale right then they wouldn't have had any issue that put them, investors  and centra into ruin.

Phantom Transparency Report

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Every week we plan to post our Phantom Transparency Report to go over the details of development and other updates we want to share with our community

The idea that they are really transparent and being honest to their supposed community is such a big joke. If they were really transparent they would not lie to their members or delete and censor like unprofessional mad people.

Follow the rest of the saga from the OP here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3248839.0
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