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1  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: May 10, 2018, 04:47:41 PM
Moin Redaxo,

zu deinen Fragen:

1) Es gibt derzeit keine offizielle Formvorschrift, anders gefragt: Warum sollten sie den Report nicht akzeptieren? Wir hatten bisher keine Probleme mit cointracking Reports bei den FAs in ganz Deutschland.
2) Leider ist das nicht korrekt. §23 (den du ja hilfweise für Krypto heranziehst) schreibt FiFo vor! Von anderen Methoden LiFo oder Durchschnitt musst du das FA erstmal überzeugen. (Ja es gibt Leute die LiFo durchbekommen haben)
3) Ja haben wir bereits mehrere. ich muss ehrlich gestehen, dass ich mich wundere wie wenig Nachfragen bezüglich der Kryptoeinkünfte erfolgen. Mit was für Rückfragen rechnest du denn die unangenehm werden könnten?

Grüße

Zunächst einmal danke für deine Antworten!

Anmerkungen:

2) Mit welcher Argumentation haben andere Personen LIFO durchbekommen, ist das bekannt? Lässt sich die Durchschnittsmethode irgendwie mit Cointracking simulieren?
3) Da ich recht lückenlos aufgezeichnet habe, rechne ich mit wenigen Nachfragen. Frage nur aus Interesse.

Werde das alles natürlich von einem Steuerberater überprüfen und nachrechnen lassen - wie jemand anmerkte, spielt man bei solchen Summen nicht herum.
2  Local / Deutsch (German) / Re: Bitcoin & die Steuer - FAQ on: May 06, 2018, 08:41:10 PM
Hallo zusammen!

Ich hätte drei kleine Fragen an euch - vielleicht kann mir hier jemand weiterhelfen.

Kurz zu meiner Situation: Ich habe 2017 sehr viel Trading betrieben und dabei einen fast siebenstelligen Umsatz erzielt - in den Vorjahren war ich in der Crypto-Welt noch gar nicht aktiv. Nun habe ich alle Trades beinahe lückenlos (es fehlen nur kleinere Trades von Etherdelta, diese habe ich so gut es geht rekonstruiert) in das Tool von cointracking.info eingetragen und mir einen Steuerreport generieren lassen.

Nun zu meinen Fragen:

1) Den erzielten Gewinn trage ich ja in der Anlage SO ein. Ich habe vor, den Steuerreport (die Liste mit den nach Tagen gruppierten Trades inkl. Gewinn-Verlustrechnung) beizulegen. Wird das Finanzamt diesen als Nachweis akzeptieren, zumal ich diesen beinahe lückenlos gepflegt habe?

2) Ich habe mich nach einiger Rechnerei und Überlegung für die LIFO-Methode entschieden. Meine Recherche hat ergeben, dass man sich dies zu Beginn auswählen kann, sofern man in den folgenden Jahren dann an der Methode festhält - ein Wechsel zu FIFO ist dann z.B. nicht mehr möglich. Ist das korrekt?

3) Hat bereits jemand Erfahrungen mit der Steuererklärung von 2017 gemacht bzw. einen Bescheid erhalten? Gab es irgendwelche nennenswerten Probleme oder Rückfragen?

Viele Grüße!
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: The next 100x-1000x coin? on: November 14, 2017, 05:41:05 PM
UFR (Upfiring) on Etherdelta. Not even fully listed there, you can reach it by using the direct contract-link:
https://etherdelta.com/#0xea097a2b1db00627b2fa17460ad260c016016977-ETH

Its at 0.0014 ETH/UFR at the moment, already gone up a little.

Why it's worth investing?

https://www.reddit.com/r/Upfiring/comments/7ck86w/ufr_token_burn_event_on_november_19th_updated/

They are burning nearly 97% of their token supply. CMC entry and proper ED listing are on it's way. It's a now or never opportunity.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][UFR][ICO] Upfiring | Incentivized P2P File-Sharing on: November 14, 2017, 03:54:12 PM
Upfiring / UFR is going to burn nearly 97% of their coins:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Upfiring/comments/7ck86w/ufr_token_burn_event_on_november_19th_updated/

From 791,000,000 down to 24,000,000 (14,400,000 circulating)
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: November 05, 2017, 02:50:53 PM
The only point which bugs me about wetrust is the low percentage of coins they have kept for themselves. Only 8 million of a pool of 100 million which really puts them at a spot that they don't stand to make good profit for themselves by these gains. They really have to shoot for the stars to accrue something for them. I have found a 60:40 to be the best means to raise money and give the developers and the team a chance to really work for in order to earn millions for themselves.

This seems to be a very good point from my understanding. That means that they are positive on getting WeTrust / TRST very big and that their 8 million coins will be way enough for them. And it shows that they are not greedy.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: November 04, 2017, 01:53:55 PM
where to check roadmap?

https://blog.wetrust.io/wetrust-community-update-september-12-2017-edbbee0ee0c5
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: November 04, 2017, 12:33:13 PM
https://twitter.com/vitalikbuterin/status/916856310917824513

But come on, this tweet of Vitalik is such nebulous and definitely not meaningful. Vitalik didn't say that he supports the product.

Two posts full of FUD. Congrats, now get back into your basket.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ETHERPARTY (FUEL) 🎉 SMART CONTRACTS MADE SIMPLE 🎉 ICO + BETA LIVE NOW! on: November 01, 2017, 11:05:28 PM
We are asking for real exchanges.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ETHERPARTY (FUEL) 🎉 SMART CONTRACTS MADE SIMPLE 🎉 ICO + BETA LIVE NOW! on: October 30, 2017, 05:12:21 PM
Very nice, there is censorship in this thread too.

Another red flag on this project.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: October 30, 2017, 01:52:19 PM
They are right on track with their roadmap. Alpha & Beta will be finished this month and the product is going to be released in December. I think right after the BTC fork they are going to start with their marketing in order to get things going.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: October 26, 2017, 02:30:33 PM
#TRST IOS App is About to Launch.
Thats a Big News for #TRST

Can you provide more information about this news? I keep following their updates and even receive emails but haven't received any such update.

Thats because its a FAKE news. It was already marked as false in their Slack.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: October 26, 2017, 12:07:22 PM
#TRST IOS App is About to Launch.
Thats a Big News for #TRST

Its fake.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 23, 2017, 05:48:31 PM
I am just curious what Philips and Microsoft see in them. Also the Fenbushi Capital group is invested in this one.

At the moment I am just waiting for a big pump in order to get out with a small loss.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 23, 2017, 04:45:34 PM
There are no plans. Our money is gone.

But they shoul have a plan how to spend the money rised during the ICO?

Blackjack and hookers.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 22, 2017, 03:54:54 PM
They have no roadmap. They have our money and that's it.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 20, 2017, 03:28:24 PM
This project is utter shit. The team doesn't care at all about the community and their investors and leaves us alone. People in the Telegram group are getting banned for asking fair questions.

You can't even sell your bags (I'm down 70% now) since they refuse to add their coin to any better exchange then low volume Liqui.

It's a shame what's happening here.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [TRST] WeTrust - For the People, By the People! on: October 13, 2017, 01:06:24 PM
TRST will be an 6-digit market cap-coin at the end of the year I guess. Their roadmap is stuffed with big announcements / releases, the price is damn low - it has everything it needs in order to get a 4-5x pump at least.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 12, 2017, 12:47:39 PM
Can you imagine what price decline will take place when Tierion holders start to convert their TNT to BTC due to hard fork "free coins" ?  Smiley

It is going to go far deeper into red numbers than before. 

Discl:I don't want to spread FUD, I am also a tnt holder  Grin

I actually don't think that its going to drop that hard. There are nearly no buy orders - so you would have to sell in a huge loss.

Nevertheless I am putting a buy order at a very, very low price.

TNT will come back up.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 09, 2017, 08:14:25 PM
I am down almost 50% now ... I hope the team gets their shit together, come up with a technical solution and list this token on Binance.

Well, I am at 60 % of investment value. It has been the worst investment of this half of the year.  Grin

Btw. Just hodling now ..

Well, we have to hope that they get the network working, play out their partnerships and hit bigger exchanges this year. Since the market cap is very low it is still possible to get break even again.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TIERION [TNT]Token Sale Starts on 27 July on: October 09, 2017, 07:49:27 PM
Im also bought tokens for expencive price  Undecided
I cant not understand, why devs cant add this tokens to any good exchange? They have a lot of money

They don't care. They prefer banning people that are asking questions in the Telegram group.
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