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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 31, 2017, 09:58:36 PM
I went on Ebay trying to find a L3, they're double the price  Cry  Jesus! I'm close to getting one from a local source though. Hope it's not a scam. Anything I should be looking out for? Like I said before, I don't anything about mining. I'm doing it now because I purchased a bunch of Giga Watt tokens, so I better make good use of it.

You may check out the panda miner. They have them in stock.
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 31, 2017, 09:15:52 PM
Congrats GW for the 20,218,239 Tokens sold. Can't wait now to start mining with you.

Yeah, congratulations also from me. I hope we can have a token sale later this year for the last two batches.

If numbers turn out correct, we might all rush for them.......
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 22, 2017, 07:34:26 AM
This announcement from GigaWatt just came in my mailbox.

The asking price of this Innosilicon A5 (30.2 GH/s) is $10,599!   Shocked

I better stick with my Antminer D3 (15 GH/s) at $3,199. Smiley



As I looked yesterday there were 97 in stock. 10 hours later only 10...... There are sharks in the water  Smiley

And October S9 are sold out although the US page indicates they are in stock.   Cry
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 14, 2017, 08:48:33 PM
Till now I ordered my miners via email to the sales department: sales@giga-watt.com

There is also an online shop in Singapore: https://www.gigawatt.sg/shop/

Anyone actually using the shop? Is there more information under my account? https://www.gigawatt.sg/my-account/

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 04, 2017, 06:50:34 AM
Can somebody explain this: they sell 12.5M tokens, but now actually have only 2.25M power (including 1.25 already utilized).
So if "1 token = 1 Watt" then amounts not converge. The rest 10.25M tokens can not be used?

They distribute the tokens in line with the build up capacity. Token holders will always be able to mine.

1 token =  a rental fee reduction to zero for one Watt mining equipment power consumption.
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: July 03, 2017, 09:50:14 PM
Question about the tokens:

On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 3:00 PM, <XXXXXXXXX> wrote:

    Hi GW,

    congratulations to your sale of 12,5 millions tokens so far. Definitely you will complete the 30 mio sale.

    Question to the tokens:

    When does the 50 year usage time period start?

    When the tokens are distributed on 07. August? Which basically means that all tokens have the exact same starting and ending point in their life cycle.

    Or when the tokens are actually beeing used? Which would mean that every token has a different starting and ending point in his life cycle and each token must account this.

    Thanks and best regards,
    XXXXXX

Reply:

Hello XXXXX,

The 50 years refers to the lifetime of the Giga Watt facility, part of which has already been built and hosts miners. This time period has begun and is several months in to year 1. When tokens are distributed August 7th in the order in which they were purchased, the tokens are good for as long as the Giga Watt facility is standing; i.e. tokens do not have different lifecycles.

Regards,

Customer Support
Giga Watt Inc.
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟⚡⛏️💰[ANN] Giga Watt (WTT): Best Home For Your Mining🌟⚡⛏️💰 on: June 26, 2017, 07:13:15 PM
Dave, Cryptonomos Hello,

I am interested in buying tens to hundreds of thousands of WTT. At first I was quite excited with your idea but after careful examination I'm not so sure and I have some serious questions about your business model.

1. If space requirement for mining equipment doubles per 1W of power due to Moore's law in semiconductor manufacturing advances. Power consumption of chips drops down significantly with each generation. I have the following question.
For Example:
Currently some Mining GPU setup is taking 60x60x60 cm of space and consumes 1Kw/h of electricity.
In two years if equipment is upgraded to latest models that will require TWO GPU setups of 60x60x60 cm for the same 1Kw/h of electricity.

To meet your obligations to WTT token holders, Will Giga-Watt build new Giga-pods on a constant basis and allocate the additional space required for equipment upgrades on demand every couple of years for 50 years ?!?

2. Will Giga-Watt provide some storage to customers for spare parts for mining equipment that will wear out?
3. What about Network bandwidth? How much is provided with each 1W of power? Is there an option to buy more bandwidth?
4. What are the moisute levels in the area of the Giga-Watt pods? What is the effect on equipment from your experience? Is there rust after 1-2 years of operation?
5. You say you can meet customers custom demands. Why are you not providing your co-location customers the ability for remote access to their equipment hosted at your facilities?
Are your customers able to manage their hosted mining hardware themselves and have full control of it?
The equipment is managed by professionals with years of experience in mining.
They understand what is profitable to mine now, which pool is more profitable, etc.
They can quickly repair equipment.
We are in the same boat, the more profitable for you, the more profitable for Giga Watt.
So your technicians will decide what is profitable to mine on behalf of your customers and on their equipment? What is this??
You say repeatedly throughout the thread that customers can choose what coins they mine. Then you say exactly the opposite.

6. On the below comment you state there are not set up fees. But later in this thread you stated there is one time setup fee of $20 for aciscs and $40 for GPU rigs. Are there any other Hidden fees?
Otherwise i see no real difference to cloud mining.
First and foremost it is our transparency. Giga Watt's facility is a real-life tangible project which you can tour if you attend our Open House, which we hold twice a month. Giga Watt's customers own the specific equipment: They know their serial numbers and can see them on the shelves in the unit. Another advantage is that Giga Watt's customers purchase their equipment at cost, without any markup, pay zero setup fees and extremely low effective electricity and maintenance fees: just 2.8с и 0.5с per kW/h respectively.

7. Who are "retail customers"? Customers who buy full turnkey mining or WTT token holders?
From https://cryptonomos.com/wtt/faq
"Does Giga Watt only mine bitcoins?
Giga Watt mines all scalable cryptocurrencies: BTC, LTC, ETH/MONERO/ZCASH/DASH. The decision of what currency to mine is made by the customers who own the mining equipment. But at this stage it is technically impossible to offer all of these options to retail customers. Giga Watt is working on the solution, and hopefully in the future this option will be offered. At this point retail customers can mine only BTC, ETH, and LTC."

8. If you don't provide your customers with remote access to their equipment. How can your customers be sure you are not overclocking their equipment for  for 10-15% to your advantage (especially GPU setups) in expense of the lifetime of the equipment?
9. Cryptonomos. Who are you? What is your name? Would be nice to know who are we talking to. Are you a Cryptonomos or Giga-Watt employee? I you rather prefer to remain anonymous. Please ask Dave Carlson to answer these questions from his account here on BitcoinTalk.
10. What exactly is included in $0.5 cents maintenance fee? Which kind of work/procedures?
11. If I decide to power off my miners for a period of time. Will there be any charges? Since I paid for the rent for 50 year ahead can I store my miners there even if they are offline as how much as I need?

Unless you can provide satisfying answers to the above questions, Especially question 1 and 5. I will unfortunately have to pass on your business proposal.

The ability for me to fully control my hosted hardware via remote access is a "To be or not to be" type of issue.

Best Regards.




@cryptonomos, why are the excellent questions of post no. 667 ignored?
I don't think they have any sensible answers or don't care.

In both cases I am hesitant to buy their tokens and ship them millions worth of equipment for them to handle.

Did you contact GW directly with these questions? I believe they are too specific for cryptonomos to know about.
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 26, 2017, 06:56:21 PM
I have some doubts. Will this Token be sold in markets such as poloniex, Bifinex, etc? Each Token has its value attached to 1 Watt of power, is that it? If this is the more expensive to get the more expensive the farm energy, so we should not expect the value of the token to go to the moon, right? Undecided

I had the same thought.  Disclaimer: I am new to all of this.
By being attached to the 50 year 1 watt of power, it might put a fairly hard ceiling on the value of the token.
If people can become convinced that the value of the token is based on the value of 50 years of 1 watt rental at Gigawatt, and the rental fee has a fixed amount (as it appears to have), then you can literally calculate the exact value of the coin (obviously this assumes nothing changes over the next 50 years, which is ridiculous.  But you get my point.)

According to the cryptonomos calculator which is available here: https://cryptonomos.com/?r=1lv0eNDlOmhWNTu18ev35yyLJ
You can rent the tokens out for a max of $0.56502 per token per year.
Multiply that by 50 years, and you get a lifetime value of $28.25 per token.

Of course this assumes the tokens are being rented out.  But a similar formula could be used, based on the savings in rental fees, if the tokens were being used to cover miner rental feesL
Again, according to the cryptonomos calculator which is available here: https://cryptonomos.com/?r=1lv0eNDlOmhWNTu18ev35yyLJ
You will save $0.5913 per token per year.
Multiply that by 50 years, and you get a lifetime value of $29.565 per token.

So, based on this simple concept, we would assume that the value of one token should be at the very most $29.565, which is awesome for investors if it actually went this high.

Of course people will guess about what the value of mining/electricity will be over the next 50 years and apply that to the possible future value the token brings.  That's where things get interesting, I suppose.

Again I am totally new at this and I realize this is simple logic that only works in a vacuum.  But I thought it might be worthwhile to consider.

If you look into the future, that would be correct calculations - but the value might vary due to changes in demand. Also you may sell your WTT on public exchanges once it gets listed there.

Right. I was referring to the public exchanges when contemplating its potential value ceiling. In other words, the speculative value of this token might have a limit to it due to being tied to an actual asset with measurable value. So, my proposition is that the backing of the token by the rental/infrastructure both gives it real value (as opposed to purely speculative value) as well as real limits (as opposed to a lot of these coins/tokens that are backed by nothing but are able to grow endlessly).

Of course, as I mentioned, I concede completely that this value varies based on current demand and predicted future demand.
I bought wtt so I obviously don't doubt its potential. But I wonder if it has a self-imposed value limit that other tokens don't necessarily have?

I am curious to hear from smarter people than myself, because I am basically pulling this out of my butt. I hear people talking about market cap and supply and blah blah, and most of that means nothing to me, so maybe I am oversimplifying in my thought process out of ignorance. Maybe speculation ignores silly things like real value. I genuinely do not know.



Price to the downside should be the net present value of the cost reduction of rental fees under the assumption that mining is profitabel at all times. Cost reduction for the starter tariff is 9,75 3,3 c/kWh = 6,45 c/kWh multiplied with 24/1000*100 = 0,001548 $/day multiplied with 365 = 0,57 $/year (which is not 100% in line with calculator: 0,59 $/year). For further simplification we assume that this cost reduction is perpetual since 50 years in the crypto space is sort of everlasting. I then take an insane high discount rate of 50% (I really dont know better) which leaves me with a NPV for the token = 0,57/0,5 = 1,14 $. All factors and assumptions arguable.


Price to the upside
: lets assume all tokens are sold and all token holders are mining and I have a left over miner at Giga Watt. How much would I be willing to pay to a token holder? I then would be willing to pay the net present value of the complete cost reduction when mining at Giga Watt in comparison to mining at home. At home with noise and neighbours ignored I then would pay 27 c/kWh which is the residential price for electricity at my home town (in Germany) with a rental fee of zero and maintenance fee also at zero. The cost reduction would be 27 c/kWh (at home) 3,3 c/kWh (at GW for WTT holders) = 23,7 c/kWh when mining at GW. 23,7 c/kWh *24/1000*100 = 0,005688 $/day * 365 = 2,08 $/year. I again take the same high discount rate of 50% which leaves me with a NPV of the cost reduction when mining at GW instead if mining at home = 2,08 /0,5 = 4,16 $ which I am willing to pay for a token. If the price is higher I mine at home, if it is lower I buy the token and mine at GW. All factors and assumptions again arguable. Especially the assumtion that at 27 c/kWh mining at home is profitabel. Since I have no numbers I really dont know. Maybe I just would be better off selling the miner.



This calculation is good, but if i did not make a typo in my calculator, you need to be aware that the NPV is    Cx/(1+r)^x + .... +  Ch/(1+r)^H
The later the cash-flow, the less value it brings to the NPV. The DF is potentiated with he year of the cashflow.

But still one of the closest calculations in this threat  Smiley




If you are in germany, I would advise you to not run the miners. The problem is the heat and the noise. You could look around and find datacenter in sweden or finnland, charging you 15c/kwh.   There you would have a lot longer until your marginal costs equal your marginal revenue.


Of course the Giga Watt option reduces or prolongs that point a lot (in case you run it for around 15 month with is the BEP)

Anyhow, if you want to sell your miner, shoot me a message I might be interested  Smiley

You are right. Your formula is indeed the correct one. I was just too lazy to calculate it. Therefore I assumed perpetual cost reduction when using my formula and of course 50 years is clearly not perpetual. It should not make a too big difference.

Did you calculate it with your formula? May I ask what results you have?

Currently I have no left over miner, it was just a theoretical szenario to point out the options. Rather I might not have enough miners  Smiley like all of us.
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 26, 2017, 07:24:27 AM
Hi Giga Watt,

please put the mining efficiency calculator back online.

Thanks!
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 25, 2017, 01:42:51 PM
I have some doubts. Will this Token be sold in markets such as poloniex, Bifinex, etc? Each Token has its value attached to 1 Watt of power, is that it? If this is the more expensive to get the more expensive the farm energy, so we should not expect the value of the token to go to the moon, right? Undecided

I had the same thought.  Disclaimer: I am new to all of this.
By being attached to the 50 year 1 watt of power, it might put a fairly hard ceiling on the value of the token.
If people can become convinced that the value of the token is based on the value of 50 years of 1 watt rental at Gigawatt, and the rental fee has a fixed amount (as it appears to have), then you can literally calculate the exact value of the coin (obviously this assumes nothing changes over the next 50 years, which is ridiculous.  But you get my point.)

According to the cryptonomos calculator which is available here: https://cryptonomos.com/?r=1lv0eNDlOmhWNTu18ev35yyLJ
You can rent the tokens out for a max of $0.56502 per token per year.
Multiply that by 50 years, and you get a lifetime value of $28.25 per token.

Of course this assumes the tokens are being rented out.  But a similar formula could be used, based on the savings in rental fees, if the tokens were being used to cover miner rental feesL
Again, according to the cryptonomos calculator which is available here: https://cryptonomos.com/?r=1lv0eNDlOmhWNTu18ev35yyLJ
You will save $0.5913 per token per year.
Multiply that by 50 years, and you get a lifetime value of $29.565 per token.

So, based on this simple concept, we would assume that the value of one token should be at the very most $29.565, which is awesome for investors if it actually went this high.

Of course people will guess about what the value of mining/electricity will be over the next 50 years and apply that to the possible future value the token brings.  That's where things get interesting, I suppose.

Again I am totally new at this and I realize this is simple logic that only works in a vacuum.  But I thought it might be worthwhile to consider.

If you look into the future, that would be correct calculations - but the value might vary due to changes in demand. Also you may sell your WTT on public exchanges once it gets listed there.

Right. I was referring to the public exchanges when contemplating its potential value ceiling. In other words, the speculative value of this token might have a limit to it due to being tied to an actual asset with measurable value. So, my proposition is that the backing of the token by the rental/infrastructure both gives it real value (as opposed to purely speculative value) as well as real limits (as opposed to a lot of these coins/tokens that are backed by nothing but are able to grow endlessly).

Of course, as I mentioned, I concede completely that this value varies based on current demand and predicted future demand.
I bought wtt so I obviously don't doubt its potential. But I wonder if it has a self-imposed value limit that other tokens don't necessarily have?

I am curious to hear from smarter people than myself, because I am basically pulling this out of my butt. I hear people talking about market cap and supply and blah blah, and most of that means nothing to me, so maybe I am oversimplifying in my thought process out of ignorance. Maybe speculation ignores silly things like real value. I genuinely do not know.



Price to the downside should be the net present value of the cost reduction of rental fees under the assumption that mining is profitabel at all times. Cost reduction for the starter tariff is 9,75 3,3 c/kWh = 6,45 c/kWh multiplied with 24/1000*100 = 0,001548 $/day multiplied with 365 = 0,57 $/year (which is not 100% in line with calculator: 0,59 $/year). For further simplification we assume that this cost reduction is perpetual since 50 years in the crypto space is sort of everlasting. I then take an insane high discount rate of 50% (I really dont know better) which leaves me with a NPV for the token = 0,57/0,5 = 1,14 $. All factors and assumptions arguable.


Price to the upside
: lets assume all tokens are sold and all token holders are mining and I have a left over miner at Giga Watt. How much would I be willing to pay to a token holder? I then would be willing to pay the net present value of the complete cost reduction when mining at Giga Watt in comparison to mining at home. At home with noise and neighbours ignored I then would pay 27 c/kWh which is the residential price for electricity at my home town (in Germany) with a rental fee of zero and maintenance fee also at zero. The cost reduction would be 27 c/kWh (at home) 3,3 c/kWh (at GW for WTT holders) = 23,7 c/kWh when mining at GW. 23,7 c/kWh *24/1000*100 = 0,005688 $/day * 365 = 2,08 $/year. I again take the same high discount rate of 50% which leaves me with a NPV of the cost reduction when mining at GW instead if mining at home = 2,08 /0,5 = 4,16 $ which I am willing to pay for a token. If the price is higher I mine at home, if it is lower I buy the token and mine at GW. All factors and assumptions again arguable. Especially the assumtion that at 27 c/kWh mining at home is profitabel. Since I have no numbers I really dont know. Maybe I just would be better off selling the miner.
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 21, 2017, 11:26:01 PM
which market we can trade it?

Please answer this question plus I wanna ask another question. Is it possible to buy mining equipments (hardware) with our WTT tokens?

Or WTT tokens are used only in energy consumption?

No, it is not possible tu buy mining equipment with WTT tokens. Equipment currently must be paid in USD, btc, eth or ltc.

One WTT token represents a rental fee reduction to zero for one Watt mining equipment power consumption.

Thank you for the clear answer. This is bad for me but if they order mining equipments for us after we pay for it, this is still okay.

So let's say I have 100 tokens. If I rent them out to another person, how much do I earn per token for a year?

Please see the calculator on https://cryptonomos.com/wtt/

With a rental fee of 4.2 c/kWh you get  0.1$/day. Of course it depends on the availabilty of rental demand. There are higher fees up to 6.45 c/kWh though.
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 21, 2017, 10:44:44 PM
which market we can trade it?

Please answer this question plus I wanna ask another question. Is it possible to buy mining equipments (hardware) with our WTT tokens?

Or WTT tokens are used only in energy consumption?

No, it is not possible tu buy mining equipment with WTT tokens. Equipment currently must be paid in USD, btc, eth or ltc.

One WTT token represents a rental fee reduction to zero for one Watt mining equipment power consumption.
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 19, 2017, 10:43:00 PM
Lets say I buy $7,500 worth of tokens at $1.05 each, that would be 7,125 watts of energy worth of miners I would be entitled to use.

So, I have the option to either use a Bitcoin, Litecoin or Ethereum miner for up to all those 7,125 watts of energy can produce, I only have to pay the following fees:

  * Electricity
  * What other fees?  please state what other fees I would have to pay shall I were to make this kind of investment for the stated value here.  

What would be my total monthly $$ obligations to push 7.1 Kilo watts worth of mining?

Are there any fees to be paid even if I were not to be mining in any given month or time frame?  Say I decide to take a 1 months vacation (hypothetically) and on that month I do not mine anything, are there any fees that I would have to pay regardless, like maintenance, etc?  And what happens if I fail to pay any of those obligatory monthly/terms fees?  

And also, just for clarification:
Buying 7,125 watts of rights for the next 50 years automatically grants me access to any of these miners to use included with the purchase price of the tokens (meaning the mining gears are included with the tokens for the coin of our choice BTC/LTC/ETH), or would I still have to buy the actual miners at its full price and all what the tokens grants me is the right to use for 50 years an "empty" mining facility where free electricity is not included and I still have to purchase the actual miners on top of having paid the $7,500 worth of tokens?


If you rent out your WTT tokens, you will not pay any fees and only get rental income which comes from rental fees of the miners. You only pay fees if you decide to mine yourself.
Here is calculator: cryptonomos.com/wtt/calculator
It would lead to annual income of $2621.43
No matter how long you are not using your tokens for, still no fees applicable to you. If you do decide to mune, you need to purchase a miner separately.

With 7.500$ and a price of 1,05$ per token you can buy: 7.500$/1,05$ = 7.143 Watt tokens

In order to get the maximum cost benefit from the token (when mining) you currently can buy 4 S9 miners at 6.408$ (with 5.820 Watt) since 5 S9 already have a 7.275 Watt consumption and you only have access to provide mining equipment with the reduced rental fee for 7.143 Watt.

With the 4 S9 you qualify for the starter tariff. Since you do not pay rental fee anymore there is a electricity cost of 0,067 c/W/day + 0,012 c/W/day maintenance fee = 0,079 c/W/day hosting fee. This multiplied with your miners 5.820 Watt*0,079 c/W/day = 459,8 c/day. Which makes a 65,65% reduction since without token you would have to pay 0,23 c/W/day* 5.820 Watt = 1.338,6 c/day.
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 18, 2017, 07:31:33 PM
I emailed them to inquire if the tokens will be trade-able on the open exchanges. They emailed me back saying that they aim to have the tokens on the exchanges approximately three months after all tokes are sold and distributed...

Food for thought.,..

Quote from the White Paper:
"New batches of tokens will be issued in step with the construction of new facilities.To ensure the advantage for the Token  Launch
participants,  no  listing will  be  placed on  third  party exchanges until all WTT tokens sold through the Token Launchare distributed."

The last facility that would be built is "November 15, 2017: 3 Giga Pods completed, 4.2 MW"

So, their answer makes sense since the ICO ends pretty much at the beginning of August, thus it should take 3, maybe 3.5 months till everything is physically constructed, which is when the tokens should be listed on 3rd party exchanges.


That means earliest listing in Oct and latest exchange listing in Feb 2018. Sounds reasonable for me.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 18, 2017, 05:19:30 PM
Oh i see. What about trading? Can the token be traded?

The white paper indicates a trading possibility:
.....no listing will be    placed on third party exchanges until all WTT tokens sold   through the Token Launch are distributed.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 18, 2017, 02:08:24 PM
So if I buy 1000 tokens I can host/mine with hardware that consumes roughly 1000W of electricity and I do not have to pay any extra fees (for example for electricity)? With buying tokens I am prepaying for hosting and electricity costs?

Will the token be tradeable on a crypto market?

No. The token only represents a rental fee reduction. You must pay the electricity fee, the maintenance fee and of course the miner extra.
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 16, 2017, 10:33:00 PM
Well it is a pity the hardware ran out of stock. Even though later the year, the hardware would still be available, and the token less likely, it ponders one mind what to take first. I like the s9 option more though. If there was a discount, these would ran out of stock in no time.

Yes, I'm asking myself the same question. Invest more in tokens or miners? My first thought was that the limiting factor might be the tokens. Now I'm not so sure anymore because I believe many might just want to rent them out. On the other hand the miners are always sold out very quickly. Haven't seen any T9 yet.

My current ratio of distributed funds in Watt is:  3.5 Watt tokens : 1 Watt miner

Maybe we can share this ratio to get a better feeling of this "market".





198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: ⚡⛏️[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 15, 2017, 10:00:05 AM
Hey Giga Watt,

how about you install a webcam on the construction site?

I would like to see Dave Carlson on a Caterpillar  Grin Grin

Sort of proof of work   Grin Grin

Thanks

chip1982


199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟⚡⛏️💰[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 06, 2017, 10:30:13 PM
Hi,

where can we see our purchased miners?

Will they show up in the Cryptonomos dashboard? Or will we get an access to the giga-watt site and only the tokens are administrated by Cryptonomos? Must we register with ID or some kind of proof of residence somewhere?

Any comments appreciated.

Thanks
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🌟⚡⛏️💰[ANN] Giga Watt: Best Home for your Mining. Starts today! on: June 03, 2017, 01:26:23 PM
You can withdraw via email on their website. There was an answer to withdrawal.

I did. But no response. That's why we claimed here.

Don't worry. You will get it back. I overpaid and got mine back.
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