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1  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2014-01-31] 8 Ways to Spend Bitcoins on: February 13, 2014, 03:42:03 PM
https://spendbitcoins.nl/places/
2  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 05, 2014, 05:05:09 PM
I'm glad Steamboat has come through with the next leg of our trip.  I'll take the refund as offered, and will remove my scam tag when the coin hits my wallet.  Thanks SB.  (hows that for not too gushy?)
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 24, 2014, 05:33:04 AM
I feel the same.  If he refunds asap as promised, it's a done deal for me.  Time passes, steam builds, full consequences shall be applied.  The sting is there though:  a 34% promised refund received today = content disdain.
4  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 24, 2014, 04:37:00 AM
I'm scanning for the formula in this 200+ page thread for exactly how to count this claim...  What formula are you using to compute the amounts?  Including hardware kits unseen, shipping cost unused, assembly fees unspent, and maybe margin between paid chip value and that refunded?  My figures are for fully assembled.  

My notes from looong ago show:
$35 parts per board
$98.5 full assembly labor
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$133.5 full assembly per board, at the quoted refund rate of btc@$126.61 = 1.05441908 BTC full assembly per board?
Plus shipping, in my case $45.95 overnight for 80 chips, or .36292551 BTC?


Does this math jive with others?

I think we should try to all have the same math applied to our claims.  Thanks
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Y'all need to make it official on this forum with trust ratings (SB's last login 1/23): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15737
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Link to SB's promised refunds:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3803998#msg3803998
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Found the best summary of the promised refund from SB:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3808613#msg3808613
5  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 21, 2014, 08:01:13 PM
Thanks trilogy456 for getting The List started.  I'll be posting tonight.  And now, the fuse is lit.
6  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 07, 2014, 05:00:10 AM
A short trip to the BFL thread(s) should yield plenty of links and information on this situation.  Funny enough, all the BS from these group buys and pre-orders has resulted in thousands of people know what the laws are. 
7  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 06, 2014, 04:58:56 PM
What a shit deal....
8  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 05, 2014, 07:05:04 PM
We need a rally.  Queue the cheerleaders.  See your BTC...

9  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: December 31, 2013, 01:10:55 AM
10  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: December 16, 2013, 05:21:51 AM
Update on assembly refunds, already.  Thank you.  Merry Christmas.  Happy New Year.  More information please.
11  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: help me understand this part of the chart on Bitcoinwisdom on: December 12, 2013, 03:23:52 PM
Thanks, singlebyte.  You effectively put into words what I suspected.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: help me understand this part of the chart on Bitcoinwisdom on: December 11, 2013, 04:44:22 PM
empoweoqwj,  or someone else, please explain the cropped portion of flygys image.  What is the green and red shaded sections (above and below) in relation to the yellow median line? 
13  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Cooler Master HAF XB on: December 09, 2013, 03:04:37 PM
You'll still want powered risers.  HAF XB gets too hot regardless of how many fans you use.
14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoint-qt wallet removed from windows. What should I do now? on: December 06, 2013, 09:03:51 PM
http://pcsupport.about.com/od/filerecovery/tp/free-file-recovery-programs.htm

Good luck
15  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: December 05, 2013, 07:20:28 PM
Quote from: steamboat
The refund will include 25% of the assembly costs, and 100% of the shipping and hosting fees, as well as 100% of the assembly fees for those customers that purchased the Fully Assembled unit finish option.
Okay, I'm trying to figure out the numbers on this. Hopefully, SB can chime in with clarification. Let's take a Fully Assembled Unit with Hosting as an example:

$ 95.00 Assembly ($35 PCB + $60 PCB Assembly)
$123.50 DIY Kit (so Fan, Heatsink, etc. is $28.50 ($123.50 - $95))
$133.50 Full Unit (assembly of all parts and testing is therefore another $10)

$ 15.00 Hosting Setup

I'm a bit confused as to what are "assembly costs" (refunded at 25%) and "assembly fees" (refunded at 100%). A couple of possibilities:

Scenario 1:

 25% of $95.00 (where assembly is defined as the $35 PCB + $60 PCB assembly cost)
 25% of $28.50 (fan/heatsink/etc.)
100% of $10.00 (full unit assembly)
100% of $15.00 (hosting setup)
  Total $55.875

Scenario 2 (PCB and fan/heatsink costs not included as part of assembly costs, since they are purchased parts):

 25% of $60.00 ($60 PCB assembly cost only)
100% of $10.00 (full unit assembly)
100% of $15.00 (hosting setup)
  Total $40.00

Scenario 3

Other permutations? Am I making this more complicated than it really is or something?

Quote from: steamboat
While we are not responsible for fluctuations in the exchange rate, we have chosen to lock the rate to that of Sept. 11th, the day we announced we would be accepting assembly refund requests, in order to attempt to help ease the BTC losses of our customers. The exchange rate will be $126.61 per BTC, based on the price history of Coinbase.

If I understand this correctly, this is indeed epic. Using numbers above:

Scenario 1: $55.875 / $126.61 = 0.441315852 BTC refunded per hosted miner
Scenario 2: $40.00  / $126.61 = 0.315930811 BTC refunded per hosted miner

-dmc

Please, steamboat/unacceptable:  A confirmation of which scenario will be honored, or what the case will be.  I wonder if scenario 3 might be that $60 assembly cost would be 100% refund.  Thank you kindly.
16  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: November 30, 2013, 03:51:54 PM
Request miners, you may get them.   Request an update, you won't get one.  Request a refund of funds that had nothing to do with the botched group buy, you get ignored.   Sad
17  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: November 14, 2013, 03:06:33 PM
I'm with cardcomm and stringchains.  The shipping should be refunded entirely, in BTC.  We bent over the barrel to use/support BTC under a tight timeline, and I believe that same commitment to BTC should be honored with 100% shipping refund. 
18  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: BFL calling "loyal" customers (from +1-866-723-3108) on: November 08, 2013, 04:27:13 PM
I got the call to my google voice for days, with no msg left.  I finally forwarded the call, answered, and got a beep-click-hangup.  BFL assholes.
19  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: October 25, 2013, 06:50:35 PM
Even though I had my chips refunded, I'm hoping to hear what is available for purchase now that everything is working.  Is it looking like a miner can be purchased with instock chips?  Patience, I know, patience.
20  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Need a PayPal refund for your BFL purchase? on: September 27, 2013, 02:50:29 PM
Magic bullet emails have done nothing for me, yet.  Sent five days ago.
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