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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: June 01, 2022, 12:33:23 AM
How about FX.com?
https://www.xm.com/xm-introduces-bitcoin-btc-usd-for-trading-58797

XM Introduces Bitcoin / US Dollar (BTCUSD) for Trading


Wondering if these platforms withdrawal fees arent that high?

brokers with crypto CFDs are hundreds. This list here are only brokers where you actualy can use crypto directly to trade
2  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: May 31, 2022, 06:41:18 PM
I’m looking to trade cryptos cfds and have found a few brokers like turnkey forex, eaglefx, justforex, and lqdfx. Which one should I go with?

I recomend FxChoice if more conservative, and SimpleFX if looking for more privacy
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: May 13, 2022, 10:39:17 PM
crypto-winter
good time to trade Forex
Doesnt need to have that crypto winter for you to able to consider on trading with forex. YOu could do both on the same time  Wink
If you do feel on engaging on less volatile then Stocks/Forex would be ideal
But if you do feel to play with high volatile market then Cryptocurrency would be the key.
Crypto winter isnt something new but there are people who dont still touch up Forex market despite of the condition.

you are totally right. but cryptomanicas are totaly right in surfing crypto waves in the summer
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: May 13, 2022, 09:33:53 PM
crypto-winter
good time to trade Forex
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: holding is not an easy thing on: August 08, 2021, 12:12:53 PM
"hodling" requires faith. you can't do it rationaly

with that being said, venture capitalists do it actualy in a rational way by diversifying (you can't realy diversify in crypto only, though).
they will put their money in, let's say, 10 very high risk investments and "hold". they might be loosing half of their money because 5 of them die. 3 of them stay the same. but 2 of those grow 10 times.
So if they invested $1 in all of them, they got: lost $5 to the dead. kept $3 of those which didn't move. and keep $20 from the 2 which exploded. So they gained $13 with $10 even though half their investments died  
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will happen to Tether? on: July 31, 2021, 11:35:56 AM
If Tether was backed by a bank, it would indeed might have been bailed out by a government

the thing is, it is NOT system relevant. it wont cause a snowball effect for the general economy, and the crypto economy is not realy relevant
7  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is there a tool which can automatically indicate the support and resistance? on: July 31, 2021, 10:39:02 AM
try this one https://www.tradingview.com/script/JAW0oW7R-Support-Resistance-V2-Indicator/
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will happen to Tether? on: July 30, 2021, 07:30:57 PM
whats up with that too big to fail talk?
no country will inject money into Bitfinex to safe the crypto comunity.
who you guys think would safe it? serious question
9  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do you run when you fail or loose in a trade? on: July 29, 2021, 09:13:40 AM
generaly what happens to beginners that have some sucess in trading is that when there comes a losing streak, and it will come, they are to gready too close position in a loss. and even if they after hesitation close the position, they will try to desperatly earn the money back entering in a rushed and not thought out position and the same happens again. and than the cycle of breaking an acount begins.
now the title is actualy a good advice. if you close a position with a loss that "hurts", you better "run"....in terms of taking a break. reajust you mind before taking a new position. never go into a trade for emotional reasons
10  Local / Brasil / Re: Protestos em El Salvador pedem fim do Bitcoin como moeda local on: July 28, 2021, 10:04:20 AM
eu li outro dia q comerciantes podem aceitar BTC mas receber em moeda e q o estado será responsável de fazer o hedge....era algo assim, não me aprofundei no tema.
se for o caso pode resultar em muita merda e o povo não é burro. se o estado paga as perdas, é o povo q paga

Será?
Estou imaginando por exemplo El Salvador se desenvolver em pouco tempo como minerador por exemplo, atrair diversas empresas entrando 100% com BTC e o comércio local tendo que absorver isso com o governo convertendo grande parte em U$.... até quando que isso duraria?

A não ser que houver um aporte estrangeiro também em U$ na economia de El Salvador, não importa quanta reserva eles tenham.... vai acabar.

vai existir um fundo para fazer o hedge.
Bukele disse no twitter q "o governo assumirá o risco pela flutuação do valor do bitcoin"

https://www.bbc.com/portuguese/internacional-57444682
11  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is not a Game . on: July 28, 2021, 09:04:31 AM

Totally different because it isn't a game on where you can just put up orders without any basis

you can't do that in poker either



Be serious towards your investment

we are talking about trading right? there is a huge diference between trading and investment.
12  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading is not a Game . on: July 27, 2021, 06:29:34 PM
it is a game,
that doesn't mean it is gamblig.

you play the odds, like you do in poker
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will happen to Tether? on: July 27, 2021, 10:17:17 AM
Also stablecoins collapse when people stop trusting them.


that's why I asked what makes them stable.
they are not realy stable.
it's just that offer and demand are pretty balanced, because there is no reason to hold them for gains.
this makes them kind of stabe, but there is no garantee. if for some reason people want to get rid of them one day the price colapses
14  Local / Brasil / Re: Protestos em El Salvador pedem fim do Bitcoin como moeda local on: July 26, 2021, 10:50:10 PM
eu li outro dia q comerciantes podem aceitar BTC mas receber em moeda e q o estado será responsável de fazer o hedge....era algo assim, não me aprofundei no tema.
se for o caso pode resultar em muita merda e o povo não é burro. se o estado paga as perdas, é o povo q paga
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: What will happen to Tether? on: July 26, 2021, 05:34:19 PM
I don't think that the price of USDT will decrease or increase, because many people are using it as a stable coin and use it for buying any coin in the dip. If the USDT becomes unstable then many people can get a big loss.
USDT is a coin whose value is the same as dollars in real life, so that value will always follow the base value of the dollar and it will not be possible to go down like other coins, that's why USDT is said to be a stable coin and is often used by many people to save their assets before making another coin purchase.

what makes it stable though?
in theory it is the possibility to exchange it to real (backed up) USD.
in reality afaik this is not possible.
16  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: February 01, 2021, 05:06:47 PM
Ether (ETH) accounts and deposits are now available on Evolve Webtrader and MetaTrader 5.
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: January 27, 2021, 11:00:31 AM
Hello, I am interested in leveraged crypto trading. Does xbtfx  offer leverage for trading with crypto currencies and are there any limitations for specific coins?  Thank you in advance for your answer.

25x on cryptos: https://xbtfx.io/page/crypto-trading
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Forex brokers that accept bitcoin. (like 1broker) on: December 09, 2020, 05:28:28 PM
Forex is already dangerous, crypto is dangerous on top of that, doing forex trading with crypto would be double dangerous. You are getting square root of dangerous with one move. I would say if you are in crypto, stay in crypto, if you want to move to forex then move to forex but do not do both of them together somehow. You could really lose a lot and there is no reason for that.

I am sure there will be a market for frex with crypto eventually, instead of spending dollars or any other fiat you use, you will be capable of spending bitcoin on the moves you make, it will probably exactly be like any other forex website but instead of fiat there will be a market for crypto. Until that moment do not use fiat forex places that accepts crypto because it is neither nor situation there.

you could be mid-, or long-term invested in Bitcoin while daytrading Forex. why not use the Bitcoin which are "locked" anyways?
19  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: December 08, 2020, 03:39:54 PM

Hi
What do you think about SimpleFX (there are strange reviews on Forexpeacearmy and their rating is now below 2..),


yea, that looks bad. I updated the list and put a warning [would remove it if it wasn't Bitcoin specific]



ClickTrades (also good rating)

checked them out, they have no crypto deposits





XBTFX (good rating on forexpeace)




Hello capoeira ,

We were checking where our brand XBTFX was mentioned this month and saw the posts. In the interest of not trolling your thread, we opted to try to respond to you in PM but our status as newbie cause the PM to be rejected. You are welcome to remove this post if you find it's not appropriate in regards to self-promoting here.

Our ann thread is located at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223122.0 . Please let me know if you have any questions about us, XBTFX would be honored to be considered for your list of brokers.

Kind Regards,

well....looks like we have a rising star here. added to list


also the ratings of the whole list were updated.

thanks
20  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading Forex with Bitcoin deposit/withdraw on: September 21, 2020, 10:27:56 AM
I am running arb/hft programs, has anyone tried this with any of these brokers with success? i checked some on the list and they have arb clauses in their terms which means, those ones are the bucket shops with no real market and likely to add fake delays to execution to prevent profits. Has anyone had any success getting profits paid with short term gains from any of these brokers? ideally looking for one that has btc or eth deposit


I general you have to look for ECN or STP accounts for this kind of trading.


i will say, my arb these past few months did not have good results. I think i believe now arb is a waste of time and none of the retail brokers like this type of trading. SFX did not profit, EM had slow execution,  xbtfx has an stp feature and i ended up break even on that in the end slightly down with fees. moving on to other trading strategies . Also, no general issues with any of those brokers . I think no or little kyc with crypto is better than normal fx

I am using xbtfx as well with BTC.  I think this broker should be on the list for btc accounts.

I will check you guys out. Do you have an anouncement topic?
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