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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: November 02, 2019, 08:25:36 PM
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Well there aren't so many new childchains in the history of ardor yet, and I do not see a reason why the number of childchains may skyrocket in the future. In the best case, I would guess that a maximum of 1 - 2 childchains a year might come to the platform. Also with pruning and snapchats the number I do not see a future where the ARDOR Blockchain might grow faster, than cheap storage becomes available.
I hope the devs can deliver the snapchat function in the first half of 2020 to the mainnet. And hopefully they will do some marketing after that  Grin

1-2 per year? Hm.., hence our views  diverge as I think that share will probably increases significantly when Jellurida allows create chieldchains literaly  to everybody interested in BaaS. BTW, could you elaborate a bit of the snapchat function? Never heard about this before.


My apologies, autocorrect on my smartphone...... It is not snapchat, it is snapshot  Cheesy
The 1-2 per year is based on the the history of ARDOR. In the beginning I would have also thought that the number of childchains may be higher, but it seems, that companies are not (yet) interested in ARDOR and that the previous marketing of Jelurida is not enough.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: October 31, 2019, 08:43:26 PM

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I think you confuses the amount of storage and RAM.
You do not need plenty of RAM for ARDOR. You can run the node on an old Laptop with < 2 GB RAM, where the OS needs most of this RAM, or on an old Raspberry Pi.
64 GB RAM is something a high end PC for video or photo-editing has today. I think there is no Smartphone out there which has this much of RAM.

The ARDOR Blockchain on the other hand has right now a size of under 1 GB. So this is also small enough to run on most smartphones.

I think this news is amazing, there are millions of people who have no PC but a smartphone, but Jelurida has to do some marketing with this news.

My bad, indeed right now Ardor's blockchain  is really to small compared with those one of Bitcoin, so there is no need  to worry of RAM in most affordable phones. Do you think that  trend will continue  with  new childchains on ARDOR platform?

Well there aren't so many new childchains in the history of ardor yet, and I do not see a reason why the number of childchains may skyrocket in the future. In the best case, I would guess that a maximum of 1 - 2 childchains a year might come to the platform. Also with pruning and snapshot I do not see a future where the ARDOR Blockchain might grow faster, than cheap storage becomes available.
I hope the devs can deliver the snapchat function in the first half of 2020 to the mainnet. And hopefully they will do some marketing after that  Grin
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: October 27, 2019, 11:15:42 AM
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In other words, Ardor can now run (via new software package) as a Full Node on Android devices.


As I see that… to operate as  full node an   Android-based cell phone must keep the whole blockchain  and thus have plenty of RAM installed,  in other words  the cheep devices are not suitable for that. But, sure those people who run nodes to  forge coins would appreciate such  solution and buy mobiles with at least 64Gb RAM.



I think you confuses the amount of storage and RAM.
You do not need plenty of RAM for ARDOR. You can run the node on an old Laptop with < 2 GB RAM, where the OS needs most of this RAM, or on an old Raspberry Pi.
64 GB RAM is something a high end PC for video or photo-editing has today. I think there is no Smartphone out there which has this much of RAM.

The ARDOR Blockchain on the other hand has right now a size of under 1 GB. So this is also small enough to run on most smartphones.

I think this news is amazing, there are millions of people who have no PC but a smartphone, but Jelurida has to do some marketing with this news.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 19, 2019, 08:39:03 PM
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We believe that the retention rates could be improved by having more apps on the platform that the users would engage with and extract value from.
LOL two years later you heard us. Too late tony

Where have you been living? Under the rock? Obyte has been all the time "we need more adoption". There has been always been more tools available than anybody could need, now there is even more.
users don't need your tools, they need apps. Apps better than other places can offer

No sh!t, and who are doing these apps? Developers. This latest update is specially for them, so they can build more decentralized apps by doing more on-chain.
Are you now saying that you have been telling we need more developers on Obyte all the time and nobody hasn't listened you?
you have no funding anyway, good luck searching for enthusiasts

What are you talking about FUDster? Just because we didn't do ICO doesn't mean we don't have funding. Did you even read any of the announcement posts or you just spread your FUD without even reading what the update was about https://medium.com/obyte/obyte-autonomous-agents-developer-contest-6a67ae3dacd2
check gbyte price, your coins almost worthless. What about talented developers developing really necessary things and not useless crafts? We are sick of it.


$16.159.762 is almost worthless?  Shocked You must be rich as f... if you consider 16 million dollar worthless.

But besides that: What are some "really necessary things" that a coin needs, that this coin does not have? Note the difference: That is necessary for a coin, not a thing that you want to have!
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: July 10, 2019, 06:34:45 PM
Obyte confuses me. Technologically it's incredibly sexy stuff. I'm surprised it's so far below IOTA and NANO in market cap. I suppose the never-ending distribution isn't helping. It's hard to convince people that something is valuable when you're forever giving it away.

One thing is for sure: that logo and icon are shamefully, shamefully bad. Just incredibly amateur looking. Please consider changing them.

I don't know if that is for sure. I like the logo, but if you have a better suggestion: Feel free. I also think that you might get some Obyte for a good logo. But I think that the logo is pure simplicity and I like it.

But I agree that the never-ending distribution is a big disadvantage. I already said it: We need more usecases. The companies should get some Bytes if a payment was done with Obyte. Cashback for the user included, but the companies should also get.... lets say 5% of the paid Obytes on top.
Or they should get 1000 GBytes if they include Obyte into their payment process until 31st December or something like that.

I love this project so much. I love the tech, I love the ideas, I love the wallet, I love the simplicity. There is so much good about it. If you want, you can use a private coin on the plattform. Transaction fees are amazingly low. I love it.
And I truly think that the price is something that will increase over time.
 
But honestly: You can't do much with bytes. The list of merchants accepting bytes is shamefully short (also there should be a seperate wiki for the merchants). I hold my bytes now since the beginning, but the adoption is painfully slow.
There are almost 9 million dollar unspend at the current market price. There must be something that could be done with so much money in the backhand.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 29, 2019, 05:18:17 PM
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I don't understand why you think this coin is a scam. Because it didn't fulfill its goals within the first two years? Maybe you can point that out. I really want to know why you think that.
yeah it is centralized database with zero use cases, luck of community and coin lost 99.2% of value. We must not allow new people to fall into this trap.

Okay, but that does not make this coin a scam. A scam would be something completely different in my eyes.
The problem is that decentralization alone does not change the world. Not every Bitcoin user has a copy of the blockchain. Heck, not even everyone has their coins in their own wallet and are in charge of the private keys.

But you could load a copy of the Blockchain or in this case a copy of the Obyte DAG. You are responsible for the decentralization. 
And supposing you are talking about the 12 witnesses, they do not mean centralization as far as i have understood the function of the witnesses.
Also, it is possible for you to convince users to use your node as witness. But you have to raise your stakes for that (give in your anonymity) as well as in Bitcoin (invest in hardware).

I think Obyte does have a use case. The wallet is super easy to use, available for every major OS and the chat bots could offer some amazing possibilities.
Also the lack of community that you are complaining about is something you said you want to achieve. So how shall the community grow (and erase one mistake that you see in Obyte) if you do not want that to happen? That's paradox.

I am sorry if you lost money during investment in this coin. Have you already realized the loss? Otherwise you could take actions that would help the value to increase and maybe even make some profit.

Additionally, there is a reason why people always say: Only invest the amount that you bear to lose.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Obyte: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: June 28, 2019, 08:17:53 PM
i don't care about bagholders, sorry. The best you can do financially it is to sell and fix the loss. In addition, you can tell others about this scam coin and save dozens of people from losing money. Gl

Of course the best financial action is to buy low and sell high, but not everything and everyone always acts for a profit maximization.
If your intention is to save people from losing money, look again at what vikutoria said. Everyone is responsible for their actions.
If you want to put out the negative aspects of something, that's fine for me, but the way you are doing it is childish, subjective and at least from my point of view not even helpful to inform someone.

I always think that critic and criticism is helpful for any kind of project, but the feedback should come in an objective and friendly tone, which IMHO is missing in your posts.

I don't understand why you think this coin is a scam. Because it didn't fulfill its goals within the first two years? Maybe you can point that out. I really want to know why you think that.
8  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] Obyte: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: March 24, 2019, 05:17:05 PM
generell ist es hier ja eher ruhig geworden. Cryptkeeper hat uns ja immer gut mit den News versorgt. Ist seit Januar nichts news-würdiges im Obyte (was imho nicht besser klingt als Byteball  Grin) passiert?  Smiley

Als ich deinen Beitrag gelesen habe, habe ich nur gedacht: Heißt es eigentlich im OByte oder auf OByte?  Grin

generell ist es hier ja eher ruhig geworden. Cryptkeeper hat uns ja immer gut mit den News versorgt. Ist seit Januar nichts news-würdiges im Obyte (was imho nicht besser klingt als Byteball  Grin) passiert?  Smiley

Sorry, dass ich hier nicht mehr so aktiv bin. Die meisten Obyte-Infos gibt es auf unserem Discord-Server, Telegram, Reddit und Twitter.

Wer bei unserem Discord noch nicht registriert ist, bitte diesem Link folgen. Dort gibt es auch einen Kanal #germany.

Wobei auf Discord irgendwie auch nicht so viel los ist. Aktuell ist zwar (gefühlt) im ganzen Kryptobereich eher Flaute, aber es ist schon schade das bei OByte so wenig los ist. Gibt tolle Möglichkeiten und bereits ein paar tolle Projekte, aber irgendwie ist wenig los. Ich weiß aktuell leider aber auch nicht, was ich selbst beitragen könnte....
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: August 23, 2018, 05:59:03 PM
So you can lease your Ardor for a maximum of around 65k blocks or around 40 days. Does the lease have to finish/run out before you can do a new one or can you extend a running lease by repeating the necessary steps?

AFAIK you can plan your next lease directly, but not more than one future lease. So only the one that is running right now and the next one.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: August 22, 2018, 07:19:42 PM
From an economical point of view, the ROI for forging is very low right now, because there aren't that many transactions (i.e. fees) in each block. Keep in mind that forging is a lottery. The more ARDR you have, the higher your chances to win the lottery. According to ardor.tools, currently there are around 300 000 000 ARDR used to forge. If you are using 10000 ARDR to forge it means that your chances are 1/30000 to generate a block. Or, in other words, you'll most probably need to wait 30000 blocks (around 20 days) to get to forge a block if you use 10000ARDR. And when you forge a block you receive the fees of the transactions included in that block, no new coins are created.

That is why a forging pool might be a good idea. I currently leased my Ardor to www.ardorpool.org
It's not very profitable but I like to believe that I support a small pool to keep the network decentralized. Also, the pool has no fees right now.
11  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] BYTEBALL: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: August 21, 2018, 06:46:46 PM
Bin ich blond oder müssten die Informationen über das Private Profil nicht eigentlich im DAG gespeichert werden?

Ich habe damals den Prozess des Real Name Attestation Bots über mein Smartphone durchgeführt (Single-Adress-Wallet, Multi-Device 1-2 mit meinem Rechner).

Wollte eben auf meinem Rechner mein Profil einfügen,  da kommt nur

Code:
Keine Profile vorhanden.
Sie müssen ein Verifizierungsverfahren durchlaufen, um ein Profil zu erhalten. Suchen Sie im Bot Store nach dem Real Name Attestation Bot.

Aber das müsste doch eigentlich über den Rechner dann doch auch gehen oder nicht??
Den Smart Contract mit dem Bonus vom verfizieren sehe ich auch auf dem Rechner....
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: July 07, 2018, 12:27:13 PM

I agree overall, but I see it as a problem that child-chain creation currently is manual (it requires an update to the software), so there is less advantage to an independent blockchain. When pruning and automatic child chain creation are released, then Ardor is ready for take-off.

And that is the point why I think Ardor won't take of as a Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform:
What happens when a child chain gets pruned? Can the child chain creator choose when pruning happens?

For instance:
If I have a company with supply chain, that wants to put information onto the blockchain. What happens when a supply takes... lets say 6 Weeks, due to shipping or something else but the chain gets pruned every 2 weeks?
Are the information lost? What happens in case of a warranty and I need the information on the blockchain?

Jelurida should explain how they imagine the concept of pruning in detail and give an example how this could work for companies.

You and others will run archival nodes, which keeps everything and do not prune data. Running archival node is just few settings in client properties file.

Ohhh my brain. I already read something about archival nodes but didn't thought of them. Thanks for helping my brain out Grin Wink
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: July 06, 2018, 06:42:57 PM

I agree overall, but I see it as a problem that child-chain creation currently is manual (it requires an update to the software), so there is less advantage to an independent blockchain. When pruning and automatic child chain creation are released, then Ardor is ready for take-off.

And that is the point why I think Ardor won't take of as a Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform:
What happens when a child chain gets pruned? Can the child chain creator choose when pruning happens?

For instance:
If I have a company with supply chain, that wants to put information onto the blockchain. What happens when a supply takes... lets say 6 Weeks, due to shipping or something else but the chain gets pruned every 2 weeks?
Are the information lost? What happens in case of a warranty and I need the information on the blockchain?

Jelurida should explain how they imagine the concept of pruning in detail and give an example how this could work for companies.
14  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN] BYTEBALL: komplett neuer Konsens-Algorithmus und private Zahlungen on: July 01, 2018, 08:24:56 AM
Montag, 2. Juli, ist es soweit:

https://twitter.com/byteballorg/status/1013125078807203841?s=21

Aber es kommt noch mehr!  Grin

Hoffentlich wird da kein Hype aufgebaut der nachher nicht gehalten werden kann....
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: June 01, 2018, 02:18:25 PM
Could someone explain to me? If you are running a node, approx what ardor balance do you need to compete and win blocks?

Theoretically you can forge blocks with 1000 Ardor. But that takes a while.

If you look at https://ardorportal.org/monitor you can see the Top Block Generators of the last day on the left side.
If you take this account ARDOR-D9Q6-HDEX-EZKU-3M9KQ it has a forging power of 2,259,061 and generated approx. 0.56 % of all Blocks in the last 24 h.
So in absolute numbers: With a forging power of approx. 2,250,000 ARDOR you may find 8 Blocks per day.

If you have more ARDOR you may do the forging on your own. If you have less, a forging pool might be the best choice.
At the moment, I try this pool : ardorpool.org
Its not the biggest pool, but it has no fees and I don't want to make the other pools even bigger (there are 2 very large ones).
I will see how it turns out. Even though the whale of the pool might get the biggest share.

So I'm bad at Math. Is there a way to calculate if it is better to forge alone with a couple of thousand Ardor or lend to a pool where your share would be below 1%?

There is no way how to tell what way is "better". Better for what should be the further inquiry.

To quote myself:
So in absolute numbers: With a forging power of approx. 2,250,000 ARDOR you may find 8 Blocks per day.
So rule of thumb is: If you have less than that, a pool should be your choice.

Sure your share in the pool might be small. But if you have less ARDOR and try to forge alone, there might be no yield at all, because you find no blocks.
Also: If you try to forge by yourself you need to have some sort of computer running 24/7.

I have a few thousand ARDOR and I go with the pool choice.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: May 30, 2018, 04:56:53 PM
Could someone explain to me? If you are running a node, approx what ardor balance do you need to compete and win blocks?

Theoretically you can forge blocks with 1000 Ardor. But that takes a while.

If you look at https://ardorportal.org/monitor you can see the Top Block Generators of the last day on the left side.
If you take this account ARDOR-D9Q6-HDEX-EZKU-3M9KQ it has a forging power of 2,259,061 and generated approx. 0.56 % of all Blocks in the last 24 h.
So in absolute numbers: With a forging power of approx. 2,250,000 ARDOR you may find 8 Blocks per day.

If you have more ARDOR you may do the forging on your own. If you have less, a forging pool might be the best choice.
At the moment, I try this pool : ardorpool.org
Its not the biggest pool, but it has no fees and I don't want to make the other pools even bigger (there are 2 very large ones).
I will see how it turns out. Even though the whale of the pool might get the biggest share.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 21, 2018, 08:47:57 PM
This proposal is quite good. China is a huge cryptocurrency market. Extending this market will help bytebll's rapid development.

What are you guys smoking, are you seriously suggesting doing a distribution round based on ethnicity and nationality, that is fucking nuts!

Doing an airdrop on Chinese new year to promote byteball to crypto brothers and sisters in China is a great idea, but ffs, include everyone!

How would a distro to Americans only go down, or white South Africans, would get some headlines, but not good ones.

Leave racially based distributions well alone, crypto is about global inclusion.

I think the idea is great. Maybe not an airdrop (or a really really small one for everyone), but a huge (chinese) marketing campaign to this special moon festival.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: February 19, 2018, 06:16:06 PM
Ok airdrop is cancelled. First things first:

When the dumping began back in the summer, a lot of people screamed to stop the airdrop, allocate it entirely to the dev and marketing fund or even burn the airdrop funds, now that it stops people are crying.

It's not the way THAT airdrops stopped, it's the way HOW they stopped.
Sure they didn't bring enough new users, no doubt about that, but this airdrop was announced for a long time. Tony should swallow the bitter pill, do this airdrop and cancel the airdrop distribution AFTER this one.
The way it was performed seems a little like a I-do-what-I-want-thing from Tony. I know he could do it, it is his coin, but that could yield to many people who may turn their back to Byteball.

Okay. Enough with that. Next thing: Tony.

Now that the new distribution methods are ready and proven, and we've added even more methods than originally planned, the March airdrop is cancelled.  November airdrop was the last one that paid to holders in proportion to their balances.

This is the list of the current distribution methods (in no particular order) that we'll continue to use and improve:

1. Cashback.

2. Verification rewards and referral rewards to those who verify their real name.  It is true that the referral system didn't work quite well for new users who have no Bytes yet, and we are going to introduce a new scheme which will allow to refer new users without sending them any Bytes.

3. Giveaways, such as those that Rafael does to his youtube subscribers.

4. Mass sending of textcoins to subscribers of our partners.  We have done two so far https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1heT6TUSpTJgRW-FUM0LbcoVjXZRCb3PbXQQLmzvNRvM/edit#gid=323859176 and will work on improving conversion in the future campaigns.

To be honest: I don't think that those distribution method worked very well.
Sure they will bring new users, and I agree that this is the most important part for any crypto, but at what price?
- Cashback doesn't take off since there are not enough users. It's like the chicken-and-egg problem. I'm certain that this will work at a later time.
- Verification already caused a lot of trouble (see this thread) and according to the numbers, most people don't really use it.
- Giveaways: I think they could work, if done correctly.
- Mass sending textcoins: If BYTEBALL ensures the partners that the subscribers will stay, there are a lot of potential partners out there. But most of the time, only people from this thread or the slack subscribe to get some balls.

I think it is crucial to distribute the remaining bytes very fast. And I would prefer competeting marketing actions combined with giveaways. Let the world feel the pressure!
There are 1,000,000 GBYTE - 665,282 GBYTE already distributed, so 334,717 GBYTE to go.
Let me give you some examples:

1. Tony should go out to the exchanges and say they get 1,000 GBYTE each, if they integrate BYTE exchange within 1 month from his message (maybe via a smart contract?). Make that for 10 or 20 exchanges.
That way there is a market for people who have never heard about BYTEBALL and they can buy them right away and also the "We need exchanges"-people fall silent.

2. The same with companies. Not cashback, give the BYTES to the company. If a company integrates BYTES to their payment process, until, lets say 07-01-2018 (or any other date not to far in the future) they get 100 GBYTE each. That will cover their costs and people have new options to actually USE BYTES in the blink of an eye and the "We need usecases"-people fall silent.

3. Make a marketing contest: Let people create Banner ads and videos that people can integrate on their websites and profils. Use the poll bot to let the community decide which is the best banner/logo/video. Price: 100 GBYTE each (or less for the second and third place). It sure is a lot, but imagine the buzz when people hear they can become "rich" through BYTEBALL over night and also the "Do some marketing"-people fall silent.

4. Give the translators some BYTES. I've had it in the slack but: Set up a wiki or FAQ in different languages. Give the translators some bytes. Make it easy for people to read about BYTEBALL in their language. Give some BYTES to the wallet translators as well for upcoming languages.

5. Go further with cashback(!) and giveaways, but with a limit. 100,000 GBYTE for cashback and 100,000 GBYTE for giveaways. End it after that.

6. Let the verification and referral rewards run till a certain date and stop there. For instance until 09-01-2018. They don't work as good as it seemed in the first place. With a deadline, maybe people will use it to get some free bytes.

x. After that: Distribute the remaining BYTES to the community fund. To be honest: $2m is not that much for a project that might run for the next few years. Most people don't want to spend their money, and the community fund can give some BYTES away in the future and since Tony is a member of that fund he can also decide what to do with it.

This mess with undistributed BYTES have to end. And in my opinion it should end soon.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: | ARDOR | Scalable Blockchain-as-a-Service Platform | Proof of Stake on: January 08, 2018, 05:39:07 PM
Wondering if anyone can help. I've been forging for the last few days (4-5), the wallet is fully synced and no firewall blocking it but I haven't earned anything, absolutely 0. The wallet is unlocked for forging and says that it is indeed forging but I'm still not earning, any ideas why?

Thanks in advance.

You need a decent amount of ARDOR (in any POS Coin) to forge a block. I just created a forging pool but we also haven't found anything until now.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: January 07, 2018, 10:13:12 PM
After the March airdrop, the remaining Bytes should go on equal parts to the community fund, a new marketing fund and a developer fund.

And all the translators should get some Bytes! Those guys are amazing!
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