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on: July 05, 2017, 12:45:40 AM
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The constant Fud tells me, this project has potential Asking to be put on a big exchange is a FUD? Which planet are you from? A big exchange is not necessary at this point in time. It wouldn't add anything to the project. It may have been better for Wagerr to not issue the waves tokens at all and to release them all when mainnet goes live on the bigger exchanges. High volume trading would only benefit those that are after a quick sell and that's not what an ICO should aim for You think a big exchange is not necessary at this point because you don't want to sell. Other people do. Others should have that option. One can argue if putting it on an exchange adds anything to any of the coins on the market. Besides, you can get rid of the people who doesn't believe int he project to the people who does. You can simply sell at 0.05+ on Waves now. Who cares to mourn for your loss or gains? You can't hold it when people dumps it on a real exchange? Is that it? It makes holding it harder, uh? You're afraid of that? If you're a holder and believer, what this all matters to you when people sell their own positions? How much did you even put into this project? With the way you're 'taking' control of the project (jk, you aren't influencing jack shit) it seems you have quite a lot invested. How much is it big boy? Unless you murder me to death, I shall practice my last breath to prevent my fellow inexperienced newbies dumping at loss panic instigated by you. Simply because I enjoy being with them. But you can still challenge Wagerr's invincibility by dumping yours now! Right. So that is what you're afraid of. A dump while you hold and watch your investment crumble before your eyes. And you call yourself a holder and believer of the project? Haha. What a joke.
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on: July 05, 2017, 12:18:53 AM
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The constant Fud tells me, this project has potential Asking to be put on a big exchange is a FUD? Which planet are you from? A big exchange is not necessary at this point in time. It wouldn't add anything to the project. It may have been better for Wagerr to not issue the waves tokens at all and to release them all when mainnet goes live on the bigger exchanges. High volume trading would only benefit those that are after a quick sell and that's not what an ICO should aim for You think a big exchange is not necessary at this point because you don't want to sell. Other people do. Others should have that option. One can argue if putting it on an exchange adds anything to any of the coins on the market. Besides, you can get rid of the people who doesn't believe int he project to the people who does. You can simply sell at 0.05+ on Waves now. Who cares to mourn for your loss or gains? You can't hold it when people dumps it on a real exchange? Is that it? It makes holding it harder, uh? You're afraid of that? If you're a holder and believer, what this all matters to you when people sell their own positions? How much did you even put into this project? With the way you're 'taking control' of the project (jk, you aren't influencing jack shit) it seems you have quite a lot invested. How much is it big boy?
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on: July 04, 2017, 11:31:49 PM
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The constant Fud tells me, this project has potential Asking to be put on a big exchange is a FUD? Which planet are you from? A big exchange is not necessary at this point in time. It wouldn't add anything to the project. It may have been better for Wagerr to not issue the waves tokens at all and to release them all when mainnet goes live on the bigger exchanges. High volume trading would only benefit those that are after a quick sell and that's not what an ICO should aim for You think a big exchange is not necessary at this point because you don't want to sell. Other people do. Others should have that option. One can argue if putting it on an exchange adds anything to any of the coins on the market. Besides, you can get rid of the people who doesn't believe int he project to the people who does.
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on: July 04, 2017, 04:28:20 PM
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If Wagerr was listed on all major exchanges soon after the ICO, you are now crying baby for its 0.025 price. You'd be haunted and tortured by the zigzag for the full month before getting your 3 cents gain. Those inexperienced newbies who dumped at 3 cents panic because of your shitty mouth would burn your house and poison your dog. It would waste another 9 months to climb to 1 dollar while you're celebrating your stupidity selling at 25 cents! Then let us have the option to do that. You can gloat later when it reaches $50. What is it to you if we miss out on $49.97 dollars per wagerr, anyway if you're a long time holder, and if you don't care about near-term price? You're also one of the most toxic person I've ever seen in a thread. I love our baby dear. You don't love our baby anymore. do you? You don't want our baby to grow up healthily and feed us back? You a fucking slutty mother! Ok, you're a retarded shill it seems. Or you went balls deep into this coin/mortgaged your house over this. Hopefully the latter for you.
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on: July 04, 2017, 03:47:44 PM
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If Wagerr was listed on all major exchanges soon after the ICO, you are now crying baby for its 0.025 price. You'd be haunted and tortured by the zigzag for the full month before getting your 3 cents gain. Those inexperienced newbies who dumped at 3 cents panic because of your shitty mouth would burn your house and poison your dog. It would waste another 9 months to climb to 1 dollar while you're celebrating your stupidity selling at 25 cents! Then let us have the option to do that. You can gloat later when it reaches $50. What is it to you if we miss out on $49.97 dollars per wagerr, anyway if you're a long time holder, and if you don't care about near-term price? You're also one of the most toxic person I've ever seen in a thread.
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on: July 04, 2017, 02:52:53 PM
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nice try indeed. Nothing wrong with the team working full steam. No one guarantees any ROI here anyway. So best thing to protect your investment is to SUPPORT both team and community. Not a bad thing to keep in mind for everyone around. Or put it on more exchanges or a real exchange like Bittrex, which seems to be accepting just about anything as of late, to push up demand for the coin. trex does not accept gambling related projects so don't hold your breathe. ideally trex would be super for wgr to get on later this year, HOPEFULLY there is a work-around or some shit where wgr isn't a "direct" gambling project and they can list it. Polo i doubt will list but who knows....... if not, looks like only kraken which would still be very good (ICN did kickass there) and see's nice whales fucking with the books, eventually it went moon (thanks for new car ICN whales) not sure about other crappy exch's. Bittrex does accept gambling projects. They have: Edgeless First Round
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on: July 04, 2017, 03:40:46 AM
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Eth has plans for scaling too so they are going to stay. I see them resolving their issues faster than BTC at the current rate with the entire Bitcoin political sausagefest fiesta. They been trying to fix the scaling issue for 2 years but due to infighting it never got resolved.
For Eth, everyone rallies behind Vitalik so what he says pretty much goes.
In any case, the top blockchain platform I see are:
1. BTC 2. ETH 3. IOTA (huge future potential)
No reason why Waves/Lisk/Antshare, etc., can't be 4th. Don't see Waves overthrowing ETH, however -- due to first to market for smart contracts.
Man... your 3 coins already are at the top!! Not a huge gain forward, besides the market (in this case,why not put 100% in BTC?) The higher the risk, the higher the gain. It's a good rule of thumb. Mitigate risk with coins which seem to show a broad acceptance (LTC, STRATIS, WAVES). Pick some with low MK to maximize potential. I know they are top...it wasn't investment advice. I am saying that Waves can be possibly 4th after these guys, which I don't see Waves dethroning.
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on: July 04, 2017, 02:23:03 AM
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Eth has plans for scaling too so they are going to stay. I see them resolving their issues faster than BTC at the current rate with the entire Bitcoin political sausagefest fiesta. They been trying to fix the scaling issue for 2 years but due to infighting it never got resolved.
For Eth, everyone rallies behind Vitalik so what he says pretty much goes.
In any case, the top blockchain platform I see are:
1. BTC 2. ETH 3. IOTA (huge future potential)
No reason why Waves/Lisk/Antshare, etc., can't be 4th. Don't see Waves overthrowing ETH, however -- due to first to market for smart contracts.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][OAX] openANX - Real World Application of Decentralized Exchanges
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on: July 04, 2017, 01:48:53 AM
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Thanks for the question, seek4dream! 1. These are not OAX. Real OAX will be activated on July 29th. 2. Possibly these are so called IOU ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOU) 3. The price (exchange rate) of nonexistent tokens on hitBTC usually means nothing, imho 4. The lowest "ask" is 0.00250000 ETH/OAX is higher then the price (exchange rate) of OAX during Token Sale. 5. If you are looking for some OAX welcome to https://www.openanx.org/en/. It's the best and the only one way to become a happy OAX owner. If you are really interested in investing - hurry up, only 6 hours left till the end of the initial sale. So that a fake OAX token? For playing price Because i see in the name is openAnx And put in ICO Bar hitBTC does this for every ICO. You will see it trading for 10x the ICO price until the coin unlocks. The coins itself are IOU tokens. hitBTC bought some and promise to give you them when the tokens unlocks.
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on: July 04, 2017, 01:41:00 AM
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If you can't sell your WGR there, you are either listing the price too high for anyone to want to buy it, and need to cancel that order, and adjust the price closer to real time market prices, because other people are trading about $60k worth there today. Thank you for correcting me on that. Not use to the Waves DEX. But point still stands. DEX Waves doesn't have much action at $57k. Or I don't know. Maybe the price is depressed because the supply overwhelmed demands due to the shitty amount of buyers that signed up for DEX Waves?
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on: July 04, 2017, 01:05:09 AM
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Hindsight being 20/20, I wish the Wagerr team would have just kept all funds locked up and not offered a trading token on the Waves DEX until MainNet launch. The team tried to help out all the weak hands and whiners who want to trade or cash out early before a product is finished. Now all we hear is bitching in the Slack about Wagerr sucks because the price is low, or Wagerr is a scam because I can't get the answers I want even though the questions have already been answered several times. And now the team has to take time out from development, marketing, and useful productivity to answer a million Waves related questions and coddle a bunch of whiners who don't like the volatility of crypto prices.
For all those who can't handle the swing in crypto price, take your shit and go home. Sell your position and be done. To continue complaining, is to show your true colors. You're either working for a competitor, or you're FUDDing to try to get cheap coin.
Yup, it is posts like this that annoys the shit out of me. I don't wanna sell so no one else should be able to sell. Love the attitude. The major complaint is to put it in a real exchange. TBH, I think Waves platform could work but definitely not Waves DEX. The liquidity is NOT there for people who wants to sell. What do you even gain from trapping them if they don't believe in the project? I will wait and see how the exchange pans out since someone mentioned they posted they are working to get it on exchanges. But this community is borderline toxic with the "You have Waves DEX (that has shit liquidity), that's all you get till mainnet" Wagerr Volume Statistics on Wave's DEX: Wagerr/BTC Wagerr/Waves = 24 hr tot est val in USD $07/01/2017: 28.62898980 2780.24236528 $82,000 07/02/2017: 18.11105841 3934.90559685 $60,000 07/03/2017: 20.26675335 1734.45253769 $57,000 Only 3 days worth of time has passed for people to move their Wagerr over to Waves anyways, so only like 10% of the Wagerr tokens are even on Waves at this point, so why is everyone complaining that you have no volume or liquidity? People don't even hardly have their WGR out there to trade with yet, so how do you expect there to be much more volume than this yet? There is well over half a $billion stored already in the Wave's ecosystem, if more people wanna trade WGR, there is plenty of money and other valuable assets like bitcoin or USD/EURO and Waves to trade it against. You could even trade WGR/MGO if you want. Whatever pairing you want that has a token there. I think the lack of volume complaints don't make sense though. Do you guys really want $500k worth of volume on day 1 after the ICO? That would mean a shit ton of sellers were dumping WGR, right? DEX has more than enough volume to support WGR trading, especially once everyone is set up and has moved their WGR there, and understands how to use an exchange and the Waves liteclient. Do you ever look at any coin that debut at Bittrex? Generally the 1st day is one of the highest volume day for a coin until they start developing. So yes I expect it to have $500-$1mil+ in day 1 easily. I even question how the trade statistics you're showing is calculated because I really see low liquidity. How do you get $57,000 worth of wagerr from below? Straight copied and paste from Wave Trade History. On a cursory glance I can tell you there is no point of me even bother selling on Waves DEX because even if I spend the entire day I won't sell all my wagerr: Date Type Price (WAVES) Amount (WGR) Total (WAVES) 7/3/2017 20:49:58 Sell 0.01400000 4,940.39456720 69.16552394 7/3/2017 20:49:58 Sell 0.01400000 1,000.00000000 14.00000000 7/3/2017 20:49:58 Sell 0.01400000 5,000.00000000 70.00000000 7/3/2017 20:49:58 Sell 0.01400000 300.00000000 4.20000000 7/3/2017 20:49:58 Sell 0.01400100 50.00000000 0.70005000 7/3/2017 20:49:46 Sell 0.01410000 783.60000000 11.04876000 7/3/2017 20:49:46 Sell 0.01420000 560.00000000 7.95200000 7/3/2017 20:49:46 Sell 0.01420000 10.00543280 0.14207715 7/3/2017 20:02:19 Sell 0.01420000 4,242.49592540 60.24344214 7/3/2017 20:02:19 Sell 0.01430000 2,818.01331259 40.29759037 7/3/2017 19:45:05 Sell 0.01430000 880.00049850 12.58400713 7/3/2017 19:43:56 Sell 0.01430000 554.48754711 7.92917192 7/3/2017 19:43:56 Sell 0.01440000 4,252.50135820 61.23601956 7/3/2017 19:43:56 Sell 0.01440000 4,252.50135820 61.23601956 7/3/2017 19:08:06 Sell 0.01410000 710.00000000 10.01100000 7/3/2017 18:35:30 Sell 0.01440000 4,999.11358969 71.98723569 7/3/2017 18:34:06 Sell 0.01490000 4,238.36695653 63.15166765 7/3/2017 17:45:15 Sell 0.01490000 224.00000000 3.33760000 7/3/2017 17:20:43 Sell 0.01490000 3,000.00000000 44.70000000 7/3/2017 17:05:01 Sell 0.01490000 1,190.00000000 17.73100000 7/3/2017 16:46:39 Sell 0.01490000 2,750.00000000 40.97500000 7/3/2017 16:22:14 Buy 0.01490000 877.63304347 13.07673235 7/3/2017 15:51:16 Buy 0.01490000 1.00000000 0.01490000 7/3/2017 15:34:49 Buy 0.01490000 67.00000000 0.99830000 7/3/2017 15:33:42 Sell 0.01440000 5,000.88641031 72.01276431 7/3/2017 15:33:42 Sell 0.01450000 100.00000000 1.45000000 7/3/2017 15:33:42 Sell 0.01450000 190.00000000 2.75500000 7/3/2017 15:21:23 Buy 0.01490000 66.00000000 0.98340000 7/3/2017 14:58:13 Sell 0.01490000 400.00000000 5.96000000 7/3/2017 14:58:04 Sell 0.01500000 4,299.80000000 64.49700000 7/3/2017 14:58:04 Sell 0.01500000 9.70000000 0.14550000 7/3/2017 14:12:28 Buy 0.01750000 110.00000000 1.92500000 7/3/2017 12:10:13 Buy 0.01800000 1.22693809 0.02208489 7/3/2017 11:20:31 Buy 0.01840000 6.00000000 0.11040000 7/3/2017 10:06:58 Sell 0.01410000 3,256.40000000 45.91524000 7/3/2017 10:06:02 Sell 0.01450001 2,743.60000000 39.78222744 7/3/2017 9:46:15 Sell 0.01450001 9,013.00000000 130.68859013 7/3/2017 8:57:18 Sell 0.01660000 6,000.00000000 99.60000000 7/3/2017 5:54:54 Sell 0.01450001 4,230.40000000 61.34084230 7/3/2017 5:45:54 Sell 0.01510000 2,000.00000000 30.20000000 7/3/2017 5:45:54 Sell 0.01520000 125.00000000 1.90000000 7/3/2017 5:45:54 Sell 0.01520002 295.70000000 4.49464591 7/3/2017 5:45:54 Sell 0.01520003 2,630.00000000 39.97607890 7/3/2017 4:46:55 Sell 0.01600000 13,498.38505211 215.97416083 7/3/2017 3:35:46 Sell 0.01610000 180.00000000 2.89800000 7/3/2017 3:34:40 Sell 0.01625000 10,000.00000000 162.50000000 7/3/2017 3:28:33 Buy 0.01850000 5,105.00000000 94.44250000 7/3/2017 3:28:33 Buy 0.01840000 318.44403635 5.85937027 7/3/2017 2:32:25 Sell 0.01610000 20.00000000 0.32200000 7/3/2017 0:44:13 Sell 0.01600000 4,144.25298652 66.30804778
Less than 100k of Wagerr was sold, which around 2 BTC at ICO. But somehow you quoted $57k worth of Wagerr sold in USD. Unless somehow people were overpaying 4-5 times, your number is not likely to be correct. On Wave DEX there is no fking buyer because there isn't a lot of users in the Exchange. Stop pretending like this isn't an issue, and we're all just imagining things. Its similar to the issue SONM is having right now. They sold $30 mil worth of SONM tokens, but their best exchange is liqui.io, which is still many times larger than Waves DEX. Also, what does it matter if people move their Wagerr to Waves DEX, Tideus, or any low volume exchange? There's no buyers is the main complaint. Compare and don't tell me you're giving us an exchange to trade on. The most popular pair on Wave is Wave/BTC (naturally) and it has a lousy 150k trade volume: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/waves-dex/vs https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/liqui/vs https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/bittrex/I know Wagerr team is working on getting it on more exchange so I'll adopt a wait-and-see approach.
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] PROPY - Global Property Store with Decentralized Title Registry
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on: July 03, 2017, 04:16:13 PM
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The idea behind this project is excellent. Having lived overseas for a large portion of my life, this solves some real world problems when it comes to buying international real estate. I love the concept.
What I don't like is that you are linking your token sale to fiat, ie $1 USD = 1 token. Please consider linking it to crypto instead. I think you will find more support in the community this way.
Also, you're timeline needs some work. Investors need to see more details in regards to what is happening between Dec. 15 (transacting tool in production) and July 2020 (P2P transactions). Ideally you would bring on additional staff with some of the ICO money and try and speed that timeline up. That's a long term investment and many investors will want to see more milestones reached in-between 2017 and 2020.
You will need the government to recognize this purchase method as an official channel is the hard part. I like the idea but its not feasible unless you work with every government and sell them the idea as an official form of purchase. You can't just throw it on a blockchain and go, I purchase it on a contract that is immutable, therefore, I am the owner. Government has to be involved, which makes this super tricky.
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on: July 03, 2017, 03:21:43 PM
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Hindsight being 20/20, I wish the Wagerr team would have just kept all funds locked up and not offered a trading token on the Waves DEX until MainNet launch. The team tried to help out all the weak hands and whiners who want to trade or cash out early before a product is finished. Now all we hear is bitching in the Slack about Wagerr sucks because the price is low, or Wagerr is a scam because I can't get the answers I want even though the questions have already been answered several times. And now the team has to take time out from development, marketing, and useful productivity to answer a million Waves related questions and coddle a bunch of whiners who don't like the volatility of crypto prices.
For all those who can't handle the swing in crypto price, take your shit and go home. Sell your position and be done. To continue complaining, is to show your true colors. You're either working for a competitor, or you're FUDDing to try to get cheap coin.
Yup, it is posts like this that annoys the shit out of me. I don't wanna sell so no one else should be able to sell. Love the attitude. The major complaint is to put it in a real exchange. TBH, I think Waves platform could work but definitely not Waves DEX. The liquidity is NOT there for people who wants to sell. What do you even gain from trapping them if they don't believe in the project? I will wait and see how the exchange pans out since someone mentioned they posted they are working to get it on exchanges. But this community is borderline toxic with the "You have Waves DEX (that has shit liquidity), that's all you get till mainnet"
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on: July 03, 2017, 03:24:08 AM
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Attention mates!
Don't get panic and sell your hard earned coins like shit.
Those coins offered on Waves now are the free ones they obtained from bounties, bonuses and gold tickets.
If you're panic now, even if you sell yours now with a slight gain, it'll be very difficult for you to get it back at the same price, unless you're very, very lucky!
Those who bought at round 1*5 cents, their break even cost would be USD 0.0455. So, expect this bottom price or slightly lower ones, if they sell for panic to get their cost back. But the volume will not be huge.
16 hours ago the withdrawn volume was approximately 10,300,000 WGR. It was only 6% of the total sold.
For those who yelled for wanting Wagerr to be listed on high volume exchanges. I'll recommend you to rather push the coming-up Wagerr Direct Exchange. Because, merely the bettors volume would be far more than enough to beat the largest exchange out there.
But if you're an impatient dope or you can't comprehend what I'm saying here, or you can't read with patience, accept it. It is your fate!
We can have it listed on a high volume exchange and then promote the Wagerr Direct Exchange when it comes out? Its not going to be out for a while.
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