We don't know what was the intention of someone who moved 62B in 2018 to Vassilis address. However, that person who did it - could just dump coins on exchanges for personal benefit, and the person prefered to move coins to a dev, which indicated lack of bad intentions. Unfortunately, still it caused damage. But without any doubt, the damage would be limited if there were no politics and deliberate attacks. After all, coins were moved from one address to another address, from one not rightful owner to another not rightful owner. They were not sold and remain untouched, being seen as seized property. This status by itself locks them perfectly. The point is that this situation was and is used POLITICALLY with the purpose to centralize Mooncoin in hands of several people and that really causes damage. Investors are interested in decentralized, Bitcoin like coin, not in a limited project where some people decide what to do with the project and even with funds of other people.
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Vassilis, a dev who unexpectedly received 62B in 2018 said that he was in full control of private keys of address, which was his personal address for donations, other investors never had control on his address or on him (unlike what some people were actively saying in Telegram during years). He said that shortly after receiving coins in 2018 he reported unjust enrichment to Greek and European authorities. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236362.msg56686081#msg56686081Vassilis always was saying that though coins were sent to his address for donations, he considered them as seized property not belonging to him, and only asked for legal documents to proceed. If he would consider these coins as personal funds, what would prevent him from selling at least part of them when the price was 50 times higher, in 2018? He never touched even one coin. However, POLITICALLY the truth is not wanted, politically it is more interesting to keep saying that Vassilis 'unethically acquired these coins and wants to own them at expense of community'. You decide whether you like to be cheated and passively serve interests of people who care only about personal ambitions and never care about the truth or about the project, or you finally will start to defend your interests and your investments.
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About 62 B burn, did you ever think, why devs during 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021 didn't burn those coins? There are endless talks about it and no progress. That all is pure politics, those 62B case is ideal for maintaining toxic atmosphere and manipulations of public opinion. When there was an attempt to solve this issue in 2020, with 0.18 wallet, to lock these coins, there was an attack. 0.17 has removed all protection, even if protection was not ideal, is it better, when there is no protection at all? Hi everybody,
I'm the developer who was commissioned to create the 0.18 client by Chekaz.
I've put my suggestions on the Telegram channel. We want a single chain after all the dust has settled, 0.17 has already broken consensus with 0.13, which is why you do not restore consensus breaking validation without doing so at a set height so everyone can upgrade in good time.
My suggestion is to update 0.17 to follow the 0.13 chain and release it after the validation restoration height in 0.18, then 0.17 and 0.18 will exist on the same chain and as long as the majority of miners are on 0.17 and 0.18 then 0.13 will follow it. The only concern is if someone tries to spend the 62B stolen coins, moving these funds on 0.18 is now blocked on a consensus level, 0.13 only protected the mempool which is why they moved and 0.17 has no protection against this at all. A new 0.17 version should also block spending of those stolen funds on a consensus level, I can send create the pull request on their 0.17 repo to add this feature.
I've also recommended to to Chekaz that historical validation be restored in the 0.18 release once validation has been restored, then 0.18 will be a fully validating release as it should be, this could not be done from the outset or consensus would break at some point as demonstrated by 0.17.
Here is a Coindesk article about this dev: https://www.coindesk.com/feathercoin-founder-peter-bushnell-talks-about-cryptocurrency-challengesDid you ever think why recommendations of so trusted expert, one of Bitcoin devs were rejected and he was falsely accused and attacked together with other people who tried to help solve all these issues? The answer is POLITICS.
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There is no difference in interests of old or new, big or small investors like you say. The interest is one and healthy: profit from investments, and it is true for 99 percent of investors here. The problem occurs if someone tries to benefit at expense of investors, the project stagnates as a result. If you change nothing in the current situation, and just will follow wrong ideas, imposed as a result of politics, that 'old bagholders are evil', like you say, there will be again and again stagnation for years. If something sounds mad for you, please try to think it over and understand other people before just attacking them.
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Please don't leave posts with attacks, they all will be deleted. If you have normal arguments, please share them in a calm way. There is a DM option, if you care about the perception of project and peaceful spirit. If you are a web designer, your help with the website is welcome. .com is not 'junk' like you say, it is a website with information about the project, translated in many languages, unlike other resources, right now it contains only basic info, however it is not a reason to attack it. Taking into account that years ago .eco website just copy pasted part of content from .com and still is using it, even outdated. We never say there should be a single website, we don't impose the website, however, we don't agree if someone attacks historical websites or requests to close it.
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DECLARATION of Mooncoin Fellowship (Mooncoin Foundation), brotherhood of Mooncoin investors
DECENTRALIZATION 1. Mooncoin is a decentralized coin, with its own blockchain. By definition, *decentralized* means *with no center*, it is inappropriate if some people (no matter how you call them: 'group', 'team', 'board', 'devs') decide things and impose them to the decentralized project. Self promoting, also positioning of someone as "official", any governance, burecraucy, limitations, attacks against the truth, rewriting Mooncoin history, attacks against historical resources are unacceptable. That all is not only unethical, contradicts with the project nature, but also causes big damage to the project with its main value originated from no-center model (Mooncoin is decentralized crypto, with Bitcoin-like classic model). Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value. Mooncoin Fellowship aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin project and interests of Mooncoin investors.
HONESTY AND ETHICS 2. Decentralized crypto with preconfigured, set in stone rules doesn't depend on trust. However, it is necessary to have friendly and collaborative, non toxic, not low-minded spirit in the community. Honesty and ethics are very important, and not less important is understanding of what is ethical and what is not. The past of project, its true history matter. Bright future of the project cannot be built upon fake info, incorrect understanding and wrong ideas. It is unethical that people who call themselves "official", made a chain split in 2020 and then a 51÷ attack to make their 0.17 version the main one, and falsely accused others of chain split, also in 2021 request that investors must pay to them percent of total Mooncoin supply for any further progress. If some people call themselves "official" to try to receive unclaimed, not belonging to them coins from defuncted exchanges, it is also unethical and unacceptable.
TRUE PROGRESS 3. All teams and devs, including those one who call themselves "official" - who are not capable to keep Mooncoin in top 100 at Coinmarketcap, where Mooncoin was before those teams came, or at least let it stay in top 500, must stop causing damage and leave. False promises, inadequate delays (year and more) in solving important issues and delays in fixing of urgent security flaws (how it happened in 2019-2020) are not tolerable any longer. "The dog in the manger" model when some people cause stagnation, block and falsely discredit good initiatives of others at expense of entire project is inadequate model of development.
FREEDOM AND PRIVACY 4. Crypto world is for freedom. It defends privacy of people and of their funds. Attacks against privacy of Mooncoin investors and supporters are not acceptable. Privacy guarantees real decentralization, no politics, no bosses, no arrogance, no company-like model, no personal career ambitions at expense of investors and future of project, and no imposed decisions, originated from non private CEO-like center, falsely recognized as "official" one. No one is "official" in a decentralized project, there is no center. People are free to join the project, to support it in accordance with its decentralized nature, without any "governance". Mooncoin should never be transformed into Orwell's 1984 with a single source of "the truth", and not be transformed into Orwell's Animal Farm, where "some animals are more equal".
RESOURCES AND PARTICIPATION 5. Mooncoin.com website, launched by Mooncoin investors in 2015, is the primary website of Mooncoin Fellowship. Bitcointalk ANN thread is the primary forum. It is recommended to verify all information which you receive from Telegram channels, there were numerous requests from people, telling that there was unconfirmed or fake info. Mooncoin is decentralized and all normal resources, not violating ethics and principles of decentralization are welcome. Any Mooncoin investor with any amount of coins can be part of Mooncoin Fellowship. To balance interests of investors and devs, devs cannot be part of the brotherhood of investors.
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It is necessary to stop politics and centralizing Mooncoin for personal ambitions, including self promoting. We need to reestablish positive, non toxic spirit and care about decentralization. Decentralized only Mooncoin has real value. We can see that interests of devs and investors often contradict. Investors are interested in bright future of project and of their investments. Investors are interested in secure and also fast progress. Time collects all risks, it is more and more difficult to compete with top coins. The game must be fair and rules must be the same for everyone: mine or buy mooncoins, benefit from investment profit. Not at expense of investors. We all understand that since 2018, if our initiatives (for example, with 0.18 wallet, engineered by well known and trusted Bitcoin dev Peter Bushnell) wouldn't be blocked, we could reach great progress. There is not too much coding needed for progress, it is work of several days, but since 2018 there is stagnation. If several people can block any progress, how we learn from these years, that is definitely against idea of decentralization and against interests of all investors.
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Several days ago I was contacted in DM by one of current devs about my Mooncoin domains, they request to redirect all our websites and domains, including historical mooncoin.com - to their .eco website, not even caring that during months their mooncoin.eco website promotes scammy Satowallet, contains outdated and fake info. They don't even care to make small editions on their website during months, but again and again request our web resources, including historical one. If you don't give money or web resources to them, be ready to be attacked in public that you 'complain and accuse'. One website, even if not in hands of newcomers, is a single point of failure and against principles of decentralization.
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We remember that in 2014 Mooncoin was completely abandoned by devs, investors saved the project, and by the end of 2017, before any team came, decentralized Mooncoin was in top 100 at Coinmarketcap. Forbes wrote about Mooncoin together with Dogecoin in 2017: https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurashin/2017/07/10/cryptos-in-wonderland-12-of-the-weirdest-wackiest-coinsSince 2018 we see no real progress, new devs request 1 or 2 percent of total supply for their work, complain about lack of funding, lack of support, permanently accuse and attack us.
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Today, on July, 31 we are glad to announce Mooncoin Fellowship (Foundation), brotherhood of Mooncoin investors. Any investor with any amount of mooncoins can be part of our Fellowship.
We all are interested in a well balanced model of our coin. To balance interests well, devs cannot be part of Mooncoin Fellowship of investors.
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This post is reserved for important Mooncoin news and announcements.
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This post is reserved for Mooncoin history.
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This ANN thread aims to defend decentralized nature of Mooncoin and interests of all Mooncoin investors. Only decentralized Mooncoin has real value.
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We apologize that the thread is self moderated, it is necessary to avoid garbage, unethical posts, self-promoting posts, toxic spirit. All normal posts will be not moderated.
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This is a new ANN thread for Mooncoin, join our Fellowship of Mooncoin investors.
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MOON
Built in 2013 with future in mind
Why Mooncoin? Over 7 years of digital currency experience. Built with future in mind: enough coins for everyone. With Mooncoin your transaction will be faster. Trusted by over 45,000 funded addresses, more than 2 million blocks successfully processed since 2013 Mooncoin innovations: MoonWord and SmartLikes
SpecificationsTicker: MOON Algorithm: Scrypt Inflation: Less than 1 percent per year Difficulty Re-target Time: 8 hours Pre-mine: 0
DigiShield Low inflation Block Time: 90 Seconds Block Reward since nHeight#1,100,000: INT(19697202017/(INT(nHeight/100000)*100000)) Since nHeight#1,250,000: INT(0.29531*INT(19697202017/(INT(nHeight/100000)*100000)))
e.g. Blocks 1,100,000-1,199,999 Reward: 17906 Blocks 1,200,000-1,249,999 Reward: 16414 Blocks 1,250,000-1,299,999 Reward: 4847 Blocks 1,300,000-1,399,999 Reward: 4474 Blocks 1,400,000-1,499,999 Reward: 4154 ... Rewards decrease gradually every 100,000 blocks.
ExplorersWallets
■ .17 wallet at MooncoinCoreGithub Repository (mebagger2) ■ Client-side offline Paper Wallet. Print your coins and keep offline. Warning: don't use online generators. ■ Online Wallet. Cointopay ■ Mobile Android Wallet. Moonwallet
MiningExchanges
■ Trade MOON at https://unnamed.exchange ■ Trade MOON at Satodax ■ Trade MOON at Reflextrader by Cointopay ■ More Mooncoin pairs ■ https://www.cryptonator.com/converter/ ■ use all exchanges and services at your own risk. Any site or app which controls your private keys can be potentially unsafe. Exchanges voting list ■ Finexbox exchange (voting list)
FaucetsReviewsSpecials The first lunar landing was performed at the Sea of Tranquility at 20:17:40 UTC on July 20, 1969. In July, 2014 there was the 45th Anniversary of the lunar landing by the Apollo 11 Astronauts.
On this date, Mooncoin began to release one MOON for every USD spent on the Apollo space program at an accelerated rate (for a while).
■ Mooncoin is a classic decentralised open-source Proof-of-Work coin. There was no crowdsale/ICO. Mooncoin is a fair, mineable coin, launched in December, 2013. ■ Use a keystroke-encrypting app on your computer to thwart keylogging threats, also don't forget to protect your PC with a firewall!
■ Always backup your wallet! Keep your wallet.dat copy in a safe place! Look for your wallet.dat file in C:\Users\YourUserName\Appdata\Roaming\Mooncoin or in C:\Documents and Settings\YourUserName\Application data\Mooncoin (Windows XP), your wallet.dat file = your coins, if you lose it or overwrite, you'll be not able to get an access to your coins. If you don't see the dir with wallet.dat on your PC, then switch on 'show hidden files' in your PC settings.
■ Never keep large quantities of coins at exchanges! In the past Mooncoin users have lost a lot of coins at exchanges. Coinex.pw, Cryptsy.com, Coingather.com etc... If you keep your coins at exchanges, you accept very huge risks!
■ If you use paper wallets to keep large quantities of MOON, please use 10-15 paper wallets and never disclosure your private keys to anyone. Be careful when working with paper wallets and private keys! You can easily lose your coins by making a mistake, use it at your own risk. You can make paper wallets with a regular wallet: How to export keys from a wallet There is a lot of incorrect understanding about using of paper wallets. The article https://medium.com/mycrypto/disclosure-key-generation-vulnerability-found-on-walletgenerator-net-potentially-malicious-3d8936485961 clearly says that the issue refers to SERVER-side, online generating of keys. Meanwhile, that always has been recommended to use offline CLIENT-side version, downloaded from Github and to generate keys on offline, safe PC. The article says: "At this time, the code on github is not malicious, nor vulnerable, nor has it been malicious or vulnerable previously".
https://github.com/walletgeneratornet/WalletGenerator.net To generate paper wallets it is necessary to download the code from Github and run index.html on a safe PC in one of mainstream up-to-date browsers. When generating keys, don't skip the step of using random key generator!
Paper wallets will protect you against issues with a wallet (if there are any). If you have 10-15 paper wallets, then you will be able to import keys step by step to the new wallet after it's well tested and established in the future. Social (All resources above are community-driven. They are managed by independent volunteers. Please always do your own research and verify information which you get from any of these resources. You are welcome to start your regional Mooncoin page!)
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Why the Blue Moon? It symbolizes the Mooncoin miracle, which is as rare (amongst cryptocurrencies) as an event which happens 'once in a blue moon'.
Supporters
Original Developer: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=199575
Developers of Mooncoin 0.13 SegWit: barrysty1e Vassillis Kritharakis
Developer of .18: ChekaZ, MooncoinCommunity Github
Mooncoin Fellowship Representative: HeitorMessias
The largest investor (contacts with exchanges): agswinner
The engineer of .17 wallet: MichiLumin
Designer: nico12321
Historiographers: Christopher P. Thompson Zareeth
Consultants: Titan, gjhiggins, tuaris, pollforall, mebagger
Supporters: agswinner, coinflow, Zeta0S, Wekkel, metamorphin, Bitbobb, Evangelo, Abiky, polemarhos888, DigitalCurrencyConsultant, Sentti, midmir, arcmetal, giantkin, ylius, ItsRainingMoney, HeitorMessias, MooncoinRus, MrAble, Zareeth ---------------------------------- How to use the wallet (video guide) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=welzjobDPqQ -------------------------------- Important! Make sure you understand the decentralized nature of Mooncoin before joining the project.
You are welcome to join MOON! There are some risks though: https://www.mooncoin.com/risk_disclosure.html
----- Even if you are a minority of one, the truth is the truth. M.Gandhi
It is the quality of one's convictions that determines success, not the number of followers. Remus Lupin
Bitcointalk forum remains the main source of true, unbiased information about the project.
To better understand importance of decentralization: when there was no any center, and there were only holders who saved the project (abandoned in 2014 by original devs) and made it successful, without personal ambitions, with no self promoting with no complaining about lack of funding, in 2017, before some people came to the successful project, came with road maps, governance, centralizing, self-promoting, calling their activities and resources 'official', bashing historical resources, and as a result damaging the decentralized project and its market value which comes from its decentralized nature; before all that, in 2017 Mooncoin was in top 100 at Coinmarketcap and was true Doge competitor. Irrationally for many and unlike things work in the non-crypto economy, no center in the decentralized crypto economy is what has real value, we can learn it also from the successful story of Bitcoin.
Warning! This ANN thread is a legitimate Bitcointalk thread, derived gradually from historical one. If you believe that some information in posts in this thread is incorrect, please contact the topic starter. We apologize that the thread is self-moderated, however, it is necessary in order to defend the community and the project against garbage posts and attempts to dump its price with fake info, and against other unethical activities, and to rebuild historical, non-toxic, friendly and welcoming spirit, with the truth, fairness, and real decentralization on board.
You are welcome to join Mooncoin Fellowship, brotherhood of all Mooncoin holders, based on principles of decentralization, freedom and progress: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351789.msg57631239#msg57631239
We invite crypto community and all people who care about crypto and about the truth to come and support our project which is one of the first classic POW coins.
MoonCoin In the name of peace and progress.
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Can we farm MMOCOIN on Pancakeswap and any chance MMOCOIN add to Binance ? I can't found roadmap MMOCOIN at website, where's roadmap MMOCOIN ?
Our own farming & trading platform coming soon. 25th May. Roadmap can be found on whitepaper. congrats MMO team, i will buy more MMO in this crypto down times.
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current standings on coinsbit competition: trading competition on coinsbit and CMC and coingecko haven't listed the exchange linked to ONION... sigh. i hope coinsbit and CMC and coingecko pull their finger out and keep up. now have more 2 participants =D
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