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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM]QQQ how may XPM / BLOCK (also xpm on vircurex/MCX/CSY) on: July 13, 2013, 04:43:17 PM
I am having a bit of a hard time finding this out but how many XPM block and what is the supply rate =F(Hash)

also notice 3 exchanges carry XPM already!!!

quite an achievement

it will probably be on BTC-e next
XPM rewards lower with higher difficulty, right now it's in the low end of 15.xx, difficulty hasn't reached +1 yet but it's close
    "blocks" : 29776,
    "moneysupply" : 502896.70000000,
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 13, 2013, 01:59:36 PM
Someone has to determine the miner situation. Which one works best for intel and AMD, Sandy, Ivy, Haswell, FX etc.
No, someone doesn't have to.

It might be kinda nice, but there is certainly no obligation, much less a mandate, on anyone to do so.

+1, nicely said.
Indeed It's right up there with the difference between "want" and "need"
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] BFGMiner Prime Branch on: July 13, 2013, 12:07:19 PM
Any confirmations of mined blocks yet?

Working sources/compiles?

Going to keep looking out for this.
It did return blocks on testnet when I tried it, but out of the 20 odd accepted and 50 odd rejected only 8 blocks showed up as immature and 3 orphans.
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 12, 2013, 09:26:13 PM
k well either way.. for the noobs... if you install sunny's new client..

don't use this https://www.dropbox.com/s/f7fu0u0yk4i09il/primecoin0712v2-ivyonly.zip

it is making the wallet hang on splash screen..

I just copied the files into the wallet folder.. no worky

Are you sure you're on Ivy? Because 0710-avx is an mtune build while 0712v2 will only work on Ivy Bridge cpus.

Weird. I'm getting 50-100 higher PPS on your Sandy+Ivy V2 build than your Ivy only V2 build? Either way they are like the V2 Rockets of QT clients right now!


People need to donate to anonppcoin. He (assuming) put a lot of hard work into building.
There's several benchmarks on www.phoronix.com on newer versions of gcc with ivy bridge support bench-marked against older versions. From my own experience Gcc4.8 with core-avx-i was a performace loss regardless of the software it compiled compained too 4.6 with corei7-avx, I can only speak for Linux on that account, as always your mileage may vary.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 12, 2013, 09:22:11 PM
Not sure if this has been asked, but is there inherent value in the primes themselves? Can we extract them and sell them?

The primes...no.

The Cunningham chains, well there is certainly some notoriety for finding new ones but I don't think anyone would pay for them?
Since there in a public domain ala through the block chain you'd have a hard time proving you had the right too sell it
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 12, 2013, 07:53:08 PM
Please note primespersecond is not an accurate measure of actual performance. It has some correlations but if sieve round is reduced too short you could see inflated pps but not really faster performance. Only block rate is an accurate measure of true performance.

Understood. Now we just need someone to build a CUDA implementation and release it to the public before some basement hacker gets one working and runs it for himself. The theoretical speed of CUDA Mersenne solving is something like 1000x faster then CPU. A single SLI Nvidia rig could throw 25 million PPS if optimized on CUDA.
Gotta sort out the API before that
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 12, 2013, 07:47:18 PM
I'm not a gpu farmer but I think its better to have people that invested in crypto reap the benefit than botnet owners. I like cpu mining but once a coin becomes big botnets step in. So i see gpu mining as good progression.

Is it really possible that somebody has it's cores maxed to 100% and not noticing he has a bot? Bot-nets are dangerous for stealing passwords, but will they be dangerous for mass-mining?

Yes, some botnets mine in the shadows of masses like litecoin. A large increase there is not noticed like on smaller coins. Plus the botnets are used for DDOSing the exchanges. So they are very harmful to the crypto community.

Saying "the botnets" are used for DDoSing the exchanges is ignorant. I personally know a botnet owner who would never DDoS anything.
Fixed.
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] BFGMiner Branch.. on github on: July 12, 2013, 06:17:01 PM
We maybe going at this from the wrong angle.

Luke Jr claims that BfgMiner has a 10-20x mining performance improvement over primecoind. If that is really true, it seems like most of the performance improvement should be in the prime implementation since both programs use CPU mining.

It should be feasible to take the prime implementation from BfgMiner and incorporate that into primecoind to get a similar performance improvement out of primecoind and avoid the getwork/gbt issue altogether...
Trouble with that is pools are going tobe needed sooner or later
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 12, 2013, 04:19:59 PM
Sweet Smiley testing now

...I think I removed all the extra printf statements I used to test it out, but let me know if your ~/.primecoin/debug.log file explodes in size...

Its recompiling on 20 nodes now. Lets see how it runs Wink

First impression is 1200PPs to 2000PPS

20 nodes, good lord!  is that 2000 pps per node?

20x2000PPS right now yes.

Have 30 more runnning. Might update them if blocking works Smiley
lmao, now we know where all the blocks are going Tongue
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 12, 2013, 04:11:56 PM
Sweet Smiley testing now

...I think I removed all the extra printf statements I used to test it out, but let me know if your ~/.primecoin/debug.log file explodes in size...

Its recompiling on 20 nodes now. Lets see how it runs Wink

First impression is 1200PPs to 2000PPS
form 700-800 too over 2000pps for me on i5 ivy
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 12, 2013, 03:05:13 PM
I myself also jumped on the wrong chains three times already.  Because the block generating is so fast now collisions are much more likely. 
Block generation should be slower. 60 seconds is just too fast.

people are complaining not get blocks Cheesy  If it was set slower many miners would quit.

You can only please some people, some of the time, and all people, none of the time.
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 12, 2013, 02:56:58 PM
Anyone know if the primecoin testnet is down?  If it's not, any chance of getting some testnet nodes posted?

The reason why I'm asking is because I've modified the original algorithm and it's currently running on my core i7 desktop at 1840(40) pps whereas the latest build runs at 1030(60) pps.  I'd like to share this with everyone, but I need to make sure that it will actually find blocks and I need access to the testnet to make sure it's actually working...

Oh, and the same compiled code runs on my Core 2 Duo laptop (T9300) at 400-600 pps

As soon as I get access to testnet or whenever this code finds a block on the real network I'll send a pull request to the github repository

primemeter results:

latest build compiled with -O3 flag
2013-07-12 14:18:14 primemeter   2011519 prime/h  13901785 test/h
2013-07-12 14:20:14 primemeter   3930894 prime/h  28700282 test/h
2013-07-12 14:22:14 primemeter   4302157 prime/h  32085310 test/h
2013-07-12 14:24:14 primemeter   3775965 prime/h  27785845 test/h
2013-07-12 14:26:14 primemeter   4119051 prime/h  30723224 test/h
2013-07-12 14:28:14 primemeter   4371463 prime/h  32873249 test/h
2013-07-12 14:30:14 primemeter   3816751 prime/h  28601906 test/h
2013-07-12 14:32:14 primemeter   3756402 prime/h  27542967 test/h
2013-07-12 14:34:14 primemeter   3184962 prime/h  23768423 test/h

my build compiled with -O3 flag
2013-07-12 13:31:48 primemeter   7189469 prime/h  54319461 test/h
2013-07-12 13:33:49 primemeter   6830908 prime/h  51281614 test/h
2013-07-12 13:35:49 primemeter   7052465 prime/h  53836478 test/h
2013-07-12 13:37:49 primemeter   6434811 prime/h  48536697 test/h
2013-07-12 13:39:50 primemeter   6266447 prime/h  47435825 test/h
2013-07-12 13:41:50 primemeter   6827085 prime/h  51539144 test/h
2013-07-12 13:43:50 primemeter   7355815 prime/h  55993030 test/h
2013-07-12 13:45:50 primemeter   7438305 prime/h  55507409 test/h
2013-07-12 13:47:50 primemeter   6506020 prime/h  48719032 test/h
2013-07-12 13:49:51 primemeter   6227709 prime/h  47225135 test/h
2013-07-12 13:51:51 primemeter   6079465 prime/h  45219277 test/h
2013-07-12 13:53:51 primemeter   7642553 prime/h  58080712 test/h
2013-07-12 13:55:51 primemeter   5616266 prime/h  42594130 test/h
2013-07-12 13:57:51 primemeter   6168969 prime/h  46249065 test/h
2013-07-12 13:58:52 primemeter   6354848 prime/h  47451299 test/h
2013-07-12 14:00:52 primemeter   6036007 prime/h  45036515 test/h
2013-07-12 14:02:52 primemeter   6836223 prime/h  51643364 test/h
2013-07-12 14:04:52 primemeter   6249085 prime/h  46962094 test/h

Testnet is working for me atleast, only 1 connection tho,
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 12, 2013, 02:35:44 PM
Some of my observations:

The average block generating speed for the first 1000 blocks was about 44s;
The average block generating speed right now (around block 21400) is about 8.8s;
Considering difficulty and other factor, I calculated the total mining power increases 72 times.  If we assume the algorithm optimizing provide 7 fold improvement, then I guess the miner base increased by a factor of 10 since start.
Just redownloaded the block chain and watched the logs fly by, lots of orphans started too show up since this morning. Must be someone out there figured out an external miner? or people using DigitalOcean(VPS)
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] Primecoin Built-in Miner Sieve Performance Issue on: July 12, 2013, 12:16:41 PM
I dont think theres much more can be squeezed out of the client without rewriting the mining code, theoretically we already have a more efficent miner in bfgminer, just no API in the client too interact with it.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 12, 2013, 10:20:40 AM
Odd. No blocks mined in the last ~20 hours, on four machines that were producing nicely before then. Three machines are running the original client, one with an updated client. They are all keeping up with the blockchain. Any explanations?
25.2 hours since I seen one (not using VPS), blocks are being solved all the same whoever is getting them
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 12, 2013, 09:39:11 AM
Can someone point me to a good exchange that accepts xpm?
Vircurex trades it too
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] BFGMiner Branch.. on github on: July 11, 2013, 10:08:08 PM

This got me past the crash on launch anyways. Not sure if I was missing the "=" after --algo or what.

Now I can see "new blocks" arriving, although they don't line up with when I see new blocks in QT debug terminal. Difficulty is being reported as 0, could be an unimplemented piece of the code or could be an actual problem.



Doubtful that it's actually functional. Smiley

You need to pass it a --scan-time 1, that way it will register new blocks faster (necessary for those short intervals we have)
It seems to pass whatever it finds, though, no proof-of-work check implemented yet as it seems.
So far all my block candidates it found on testnet were rejected(by primecoind). No block candidates on production yet.


I've gotten the same results as you, I even went as far as too modify coindbase-addr too accept the addresses
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 11, 2013, 05:54:53 PM
There appears to be a network fork at block#14214 just now. Please run this command

getblockhash 14215
and report your current block number
15428bf4b0867cf6b75a85375f6a2266e54a1c9f244befeee72ec0545300ae0f
@ block 14877
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Offical launch of PhenixCoin.com on: July 11, 2013, 02:45:34 PM
Anyone wants to sell at 0.001 Roll Eyes

I would think of selling at 0.1  Grin

At least. We think alike Smiley


SO you are also waiting for more then 0.1 lets wait together. Smiley
Can totaly see that happening on Junember 50st.
  Grin
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 11, 2013, 01:47:56 PM
Was tired of trying to add immature blocks up so heres some dirty bash too get it done, I'm sure someone has a much better solution.
Code:
echo `./primecoind listtransactions "" 1000 | grep -A1 category | grep -A1 'immature\|generate' | grep amount | awk -F" " '{print $3}' | awk -F, '{printf "%s +",$1}'` 0 | bc

Edit: this doesn't account for sent.

If I'm not mistaken, the balance command alone (i.e. './primecoind balance') will give you the total of only mature blocks, but if you include the account parameter (i.e. './primecoind balance ""'), it will give you the total of all blocks, both mature and immature.  All you have to do is subtract to see the immature balance alone, if I understand correctly what you are trying to do.


lol I did say some would have a better solution, never accured to me too use "" in getbalance, touche.
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