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1  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Electrum Ubuntu totally noob on: May 08, 2020, 04:21:58 PM
HCP,

Almost same question but I'm using Lubuntu and it doesn't have the executable tick box. Any suggestions other than not using Lubuntu Smiley ? Thx

Then click on the "Permissions" tab, and tick the box that says "Allow executing file as program":



Close the dialog boxes, and then just double click on the .appimage... Electurm will start up!



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2  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 10, 2020, 06:15:49 AM
Amazing you achieved legendary status with a mind like that.
Everyone has different strengths. Doesn't mean you should discourage them when they ask for help.
Ask me for help on how you can help a family member recover from cancer so I can tell you no, just eat some good food.
And for the record, if you took the time to read more carefully, I made and kept the private seeds/keys, I just asked him to build the hardware.
This thread is over, go run your numbers up on another thread.

HCP feel free to archive.
3  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 11:00:42 PM
Thanks for everything.
I prefer its graphical presentation as well. I just like the BlockchainInfo website and figured they had something similar.

I'm looking at the 2nd graph "Pending Tx fee in btc" and the legend isn't making sense to me. Looking at the 2hr chart for today
at 13:12pm that peak says 1000+: 0.005btc
so the 1000 is sat/byte, if you sent then you would be paying .005btc or 500,000sats to send 1000sats

That sounds very high, I know its a lot lower only a minutes later but my tx fees on my mobile don't seem to match. They might  Huh match with BlochchainInfo  

Is there a online calculator for this stuff. I'd by happy to do it old school on a regular calculator if I understood it.

Here is one of my tx fees
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0.00000316 BTC
(1.404 sat/B - 0.351 sat/WU - 225 bytes)
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makes no sense, I can't even break it apart correctly, does it read...
"At a rate of 1.404 sats per byte the tx cost you 0.351 sats, because your tx was 225 bytes in size"
my head is spinning, because it looks like at cost me 316sats to send those 600 sats at the slowest speed.
Is there a website I can stare at and read it until I get it?
thx

that's all for now you guys been a lot of help. (but feel free to send a link to that last question? Grin)
4  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 04:22:05 PM
Thanks for the new comments and yes a hardware wallet sounds like a good idea. But first still trying to accomplish my first SPEND. Ran into a hiccup.

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Should be able to yes... just remember to check what the network is like so you can see fees appropriately etc... https://jochen-hoenicke.de/queue/ If you see BIG spikes and lots of transactions showing as unconfirmed, it's a bad time to test, as fees will be high and confirmations can take a while Wink
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I'm looking at the Blockchain dot Info / charts page and specifically at the, 'Mempool Transaction Count' looks the most similar to the German site you sent above, but it only gets as granular as 30 days. Is there a better comparison on BlochchainInfo, perhaps  'Mempool Bytes Per Fee Level'?


Also my attempt to SEND to myself failed, the error was,
'The server returned an error when broadcasting the transaction. Consider trying to connect to a different server or updating Electrum. Transaction could not be broadcast due to dust outputs.'

I did some searching and switched the wallet off of AUTO and made it choose one server and then tried the 5 different fee levels from 1 sat to 29sats. I of course first tried just paying the most fees at 29sats and left it in AUTO.
I then raised the amount I was sending from 40 sats to 400 and 4000. Thinking if the 'full boat' 29sats/bit rate was really coming out to over 6000sats maybe the amount i'm sending needed to be a lot higher or basically no miner whats to bother. If I send 7000 you think it will go thru?

Finally my phone was on my secured wifi at my house, (with my mobile data turned off) should I have just let my mobile connect as usual to the tower? Could have caused the error?
thx
5  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 11:18:01 AM
When I look in 'Wallets' the default wallet is 9kb and the test wallet is 10kb, hopefully that is the difference between watch-only and not watch-only. So I'll leave it alone until I get this down pat.

Thanks for the reminder on checking the network/mempool I think right? I was thinking to send everything with the minimum as I have time on my side and I can always practice the child/parent move to push things along.

So your saying these mobile/desktop wallets estimation of time is usually not very accurate?
Electrum is saying for 0.00000040sats:

wait 1 block (approx 10min) and pay 29sats/byte which comes out to 6950sats / .50 cents
or on the other extreme
wait 25 blks (approx 250min/4h10m and pay 1.1 sats/byte
and of course 3 choices in the middle.

Thanks again!
6  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 10:46:41 AM
Ok, got it. My former tech guy made me HD wallets he made from a dual laptop air-gapped setup that was to complicated for me to remember once he left.

I use the name "Paper" wallets as that is what I learned about first and went to him for help with and he said Bitaddress.org wasn't to be trusted. I never did get the bootable ubuntu flash drive with bitaddress loaded on in order to made paper wallets properly. Which is the best way I think to set oneself up. Paper for long term storage-(not to be touched for years) Hardware/Ledger for what you think you'll use that year, and a mobile to keep $100 on and pull from the Ledger.

Anyway, you made progress because I actually pressed "on" the wallet name "default wallet", the type is "imported" and I missed the other one named "test" which was also imported. The new tech guy made both as they both have the same balance. Difference being the "default" says "watch-only", which is the one I was trying to use and the "test" does NOT say "watch-only".

Can I simply delete the watch-only wallet or now that I know, just leave it alone and don't use it.

So if I bring my other HD wallets onto my mobile I can practice sending and receiving between them, yes?
thx
7  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 09:47:14 AM
So after we entered the seed phrase (and private key I believe)
See... this sounds wrong. Paper wallets don't (usually) have "seed phrases"... paper wallets are generally just a single private key/public address combo... and you either import that private key into a wallet (fyi, not possible to an Electrum wallet that already has a seed, has to be a new wallet or an "imported" wallet)... or you sweep the private key to an existing wallet.

It sounds like the wallet you currently have is "watching only" and was created using the "address" and not the private key. If you click the the wallet name at the top of the screen, what does it say for "Wallet Type"? Huh

And if you click the "3 dots" menu button and then select "wallets" do you see multiple wallet files listed? Huh



I appreciate the help but not sure why you would say paper wallets don't usually have "seeds". What little I know they are the most important part.

We definitely used the Private key I recall now because we had a letter that was under case which was suppose to be a capital letter. once we figured that out it worked. I can't remember everything exactly but we didn't choose the normal 1st choice I think it was the last one that says Import existing wallet.
Then entered the seed, made a password, then entered the Private key via typing in the long address starting with the "L".

I check the "wallets" by choosing the 3 dots and just one wallet 'default wallet' and no "watch-only" message.
thx
8  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 09:02:19 AM
Hmm, this sounds bad, I'll let others asses your "situation".

Anyways, those are the only options you can get after clicking "pay" if your wallet is watch-only.
If it's a normal wallet, it'll be sent right away.

Click the wallet name on top of your screen, is there something like "This wallet is watching-only"?

But if you got the private key, create the wallet yourself, it isn't that hard (follow my instructions above).
A valid WIF private key should start with either '5', 'L' or 'K'.
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Thanks,
I don't know about bad, there are just some pieces of the sequence that are obvious to me yet.

Hopefully someone else comments.
The unofficial link was ver 3.1.1 otherwise it probably would have given me the answer I was looking for.
The WIF is L.
If the wallet is made correctly and I make another with the same Pub and Private keys and seeds, will it even let me or do I first have to delete the wallet I'm trying to work with here?

The wallet does not say watch-only at the top. I know what that looks like because that's what happened to me the first time I tried to do it myself, which is why I went to find someone for help.
9  Bitcoin / Electrum / Re: Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 08:39:21 AM
I appreciate the quick reply...

Thanks for the memory jogger. Even though I'm definitely a noob, this isn't a watch-only.

The short version is the tech guy of my team moved away after making the paper wallets.  I found a new guy and he helped me get the paper wallet on the phone (for a fee of course). So after we entered the seed phrase (and private key I believe) to be able to see the wallet on the phone I immediately used it to pay him. Of course he was doing everything so fast I couldn't commit it to memory. Which is why I'm trying to spend and receive back and forth to myself to get comfortable with it, but these gui's (in my opinion) are just not obvious enough for me.





Yes those are the links I was referring to. I looked thru those for spending instructions.
10  Bitcoin / Electrum / Android Electrum 3.3.8 SPEND Problem on: April 09, 2020, 07:56:43 AM
I have 3.3.8 installed from electrum site not Play store. I have some early paper wallets. I created a wallet on my mobile and did not use normal "new wallet or standard" but created it with seed words. Everything worked fine and btc showed in mobile wallet.

I open that same wallet a month later to spend to another different existing paper wallet of mine.
I choose SEND
I entered the different paper wallet address, some dust, left the transaction rate at full and replaceable.

I pushed PAY...
(I may just be have a GUI mindblock but)
and the next screen shows; (here is where I get lost as it makes no sense to me)

Transaction

Status           Unsigned
Amount Sent
Tx fee
Tx fee rate

Outputs
then lists the receiving wallet address and the amount sent
and the sending wallet and its new balance

Here's the part that's frustrating me...

at the bottom of the screen are three buttons
REMOVE      and button with a QR symbol   and a button that says CLOSE

This is my first time using Electrum Mobile and I just don't know its GUI sequence, not intuitive that's for sure, nor can I find any current videos showing the 3.3.8 GUI.
I'm checking blockchain.info and no change is happening to either address. I'm assuming nothings happening because I didn't send it on its way / executed the tx properly.

I expected it to ask for the private key so I could send it, but the buttons; 
REMOVE / QR / CLOSE all seem like wrong choices to bring up a field box to enter the private key. I have the private key as a long address, not a QR.
I'm guessing REMOVE cancels the tx and CLOSE just lets you out to go to a different area in the app but keeps the tx ready to sign later.
Choosing QR symbol button simply brings up a new large QR code with 2 more buttons underneath; "Copy to clipboard" or "CLOSE". Why would I need a new QR code, for what purpose?

I've gone to Electrums website, found their instructions and its not covered if you can believe it. There isn't even a title named "How to Spend".

Any help appreciated  Huh
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