If someone considers gambling to be a job, then they will have to participate in gambling every day, just like their job, and they will have to bet on gambling just like they do in a regular job. If someone gambles regularly, they will soon be on the verge of bankruptcy. However, gambling should be considered an optional subject because you can participate in gambling if you want and not if you don't. However, it is not possible to consider gambling as a job in any way.
I know few men in real life who lives like you say. But no one of them don`t plan bankruptcy. And they are not some influencers/blogers/promoters - they just bet their own money on their own predictions. At least two of them get more profit than my salary(and it is good enough for my country). PS. They are on such way at least for three last years.
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Majority of the rich people understand how to control wealth, that's the reason they're different, understand when to spend and when to receive, knowing risk management and wealth management is very important for persons who wishes to be rich or wealthy on the other hand, the reason some persons are still poor or the way the are is because they fail to understand and apply certain principles of wealth creation, it's easier to find a disciplined rich gambler compared to finding a poor discipline gambler, and that is why the rich will also end up being the rich.
Or, a poor person would be more careful with his playstyle and balance, because money matters for him more. Or rich will get addicted quicker because they are able to gamble more often and make more bets. This is a situation with a lot of "if" and "or", that proves that rich and poor equally have chances to get addicted, equally have chances to get into troubles, equally be good or bad at managing wealth, because history and life are full of different example. Examples of reckless rich people and smart poor people who are unlucky to be in situation they are now, for example. Rich people don`t have a reason "bet all my money to become rich instantly". Rich people mostly have good education and can calculate chances and analyze information. It is the main difference between rich and poor people. All other things depends on gambler as you said.
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~ As the title says; does it makes any meaning knowing gambling is a game of chances and yet you gamble?
I don`t interest in random games. It is situation, when you can`t change the result, you can`t have any win strategy. I use it only when i want to rest, in such situation i "pay for a ticket" - i know that i lose my money like visit on the football match, buying beer, etc. We know that we spend money, but we still pay. Sport betting or poker is a chance to win money with your brains - you can analyze teams/cards and try to predict the result. Even if i lose i will feel myself nice, because i tried to increase my win chances. As the result - i don`t care about money in random games - they were made for fun and i pay for fun. But i don`t see any reason to make big bets here.
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There is a popular phrase that you may also know: "Take the risk or lose the opportunity." It means that opportunities cannot come with a pre plan, they come suddenly, and if you grab them on time, you will be one of the successful people. However, not every time is it wise to take a risk, sometimes you have to avoid risks because you can't afford to lose, nor does it always work. If you act blindly and find yourself with nothing the next day, what will you do? So my suggestion regarding risk is to take it, but with strategy and planning. You should always have a Plan B, if this doesn't work, then you can use that to Give a comeback.
The same time there is another popular phrase: "The luck is for hardworking". The problem of such phrases that there such words for any situation and it means nothing. Only doing something give you some result. Risk level for everybody differs, so we can give the right answer, except "try not to lose all you have". I think that everybody knows about it but not everybody follows such advice.
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ну я окупил где-то так же. но опять же - куча знакомых заходила в то же время +/-, остались в минусах. ребята, которые меня купить как сервисника хотели - тоже вроде в минусах. разные люди, разные бюджеты. общее отношение.
даже те, у кого я скупал железки в конце 2018 года вышли примерно в ноль. только самые нетерпеливые посливались. кто заходил в 2015 или в самом начале 2017, то сложно было в минус уйти, если железо не украли. есть пример слившегося, который заходил в 2014  но для него это не критично на самом деле. тупо попробовал, не понравилось, ушел с небольшим убытком. а так да, зайти раньше 17го и оказаться в минусах надо быть сказочным неудачником. но мои как и я заходили в 2017, только я весной, а они летом-осенью
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However, when the risk is well thought out, with limits and strategy, it can even be worth it. The important thing is to know how far you can go without getting lost along the way. Any risk which leads to where the person uses more than an amount they can afford to risk, I no longer consider that to be a risk; rather, it's on the level of stupidity, knowing fully well that money wagered in gambling is more than 50% gone and winning with that money is under probability, and as such, we should proceed with caution. And for you, when does the risk start to no longer be worth it?  Once it gets to a point where I consider myself to be spending more than I usually spend on gambling and there is no luck leading to me winning much and the money is just going without any profit, I will consider it to be wastage and will refrain from it and go back to gambling with little money, which I can't consider to be as risky. It looks like you`re talking not about risk, but about money management. All you calculate is money you have, but it doesn`t tell what risk is ok for you. For example: i ready to risk 10% of my bankroll when i see equal teams but the odds higher than 10.
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A few months ago, I came across a post that claimed that the world of risk, that is, stock markets and sports and non-sports betting platforms, is counter-intuitive. This means that you can’t rely on intuition there, but you have to rely on counter-intuition. I must admit, that was the first time I heard the term counter-intuition. This term was first used by Russian trader Alexander Silaev. However, I would like to talk about counter-intuition in relation to sports betting. Do you admit the existence of the term counter-intuition in relation to sports betting? If you ask me what it is, I will answer that it is a set of rules that limits decision-making based on the “unconscious principle”. But intuition is an unconscious principle, in which you cannot clearly tell yourself on what basis you made a bet.
I don`t believe in intuition mostly. The only situation when i think that intuition is possible - when it is experienced gambler and it looks like automatic analyze, when he understand that his analyze has a mistake, but he still don`t see it. Counter-intuition looks much more useful for common gambler. When lots of people believe in luck, it is very useful to stop yourself before silly "luck" decision. You need to believe in analyze, and follow your strategy rules and don`t change your mind. PS. For me it was difficult enough on the start to stop myself, especially after wins - i wanted to increase bet, to make bet on unanalyzed match. I don`t have statistics, but i think that with intuition i would lost big enough part of profit.
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Так то явно не о бытовом потреблении? Какие 40 кВт  Отсюда другой вопрос - если я купил себе мощность официально и плачу по договору какие могут быть проблемы? Почему меня должны касаться распоряжения о запрете майнинга вообще? Мощность те кто запрещает обратно выкупят себе? по логике - никак. чисто теоретически рассуждая, можно подтянуть вред для экологии за счет нагрева и жалобы соседей на шум. ну это вот прям натягивая сову на глобус. а так да. потребление - коммерческое, налоги - плачу. нахрен - это прямо и чу-чуть направо. ну как повезло. со мной достаточно много народа заходило, большинство в минусе. правда они как раз считали, что всё само придет, надо только карты купить. не на 40, а от 40. там и идет рассчет на 1, 2 асика, до 13 и от 13. видимо как раз с 13 асиков или 40квт и начинается 3й тариф. искать некогда, да и смысла нет, переезжать всё равно не буду.  когда я заходил, все окупалось примерно за 6 месяцев, но там еще много было вариантов окупить. есть же разница между теми, кто заходил в 2014 и 2017 годах на хаях. ну я окупил где-то так же. но опять же - куча знакомых заходила в то же время +/-, остались в минусах. ребята, которые меня купить как сервисника хотели - тоже вроде в минусах. разные люди, разные бюджеты. общее отношение.
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No matter how you feel that you can make a living from gambling and come up with various strategies and discipline yourself, you will end up losing more than you win in the long run. What people forgot to put into consideration is that gambling is a game of luck and not by your skill, strategy or experience in the game. Luck comes by chance when you wouldn't expect it.
I agree with you that in gambling luck is a determining factor in our victory and that is the reality in gambling, if luck is not related to victory then it is certain that for gambling experts or gamblers who have been involved in the world of gambling for a long time, it is certain that they will always be able to get money easily every day through betting because they can make a good strategy but the reality is not like that in gambling so that so far I personally have never seen or heard of a trusted gambler who has abundant wealth from betting results. It is not just about being an expert in gambling because in gambling I don't believe in expertise because even a 1.5 odd or 1 odd can cut your ticket so what makes them an expert, there ability to analyze game can make them to only reduce loss and if they are good I think some or most gambling site would have been shutdown by now but I haven't heard of any. Just like you said earlier gambling is all about luck and there are people who are somehow destined to survive or make a living with gambling and they are always winning more than they are losing and not even because they are an expert but because they are lucky. Not only to reduce loss, but also to increase wins. Luck is nothing for bettor - it can mean something for few bets, for a long distance luck means nothing - 1-2% of your win rate. Of course if your analyze is good enough. But i think that you can`t find lots of information about such gamblers - they don`t need marketing, they don`t need to share their results or predictions, they are fine.
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Who told you that ich people do not get addicted easily, I think you are wong and I think most of the gambler are rich people. If rich people do not get addicted on gambling then how the gambling sites running. Do you think it is supportive only by the poor people who think 10$ is too much? If you think so then I think you are in the kingdom of foolish people.
I played one online game with donation long ago. Staff seller told me that the main income he get from small donators. For 1 big donate he get 1000 small donates and it brings much more profit. Rich people don`t have a silly idea that they will bet last $10 and become rich instantly. They just play for fun. PS. Of course, there are rich gambling addicts too, but they have much more chances to avoid it than poor gamler.
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~ And for you, when does the risk start to no longer be worth it?  When i prepared to the game, i planned everything. Sum, i ready to lose, bet size, recalculating bet size rules, predictions connected with odds, etc. May be i was lucky and i began to win from the beginning, but i had a plan for losing. I prepared bankroll for 3 months. If i would lost it - i planned to stop for a half a year to correct strategy and to get money for new start.
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I've witnessed a time where the generosity of a one man put him in his place.. "he bashed into our casino back then and the first game was a win win". Like, a huge one at that. He was full of himself and he decided to share some of his wins to everyone that was present (about 8 people or so).
Then he went back into the booking hall and continued for about half an hour, came out again with another big win and celebrated with a 50ml bottle of Don Julio anejo Tequila, which also went around to everyone else in the room. I was uncomfortable with everything and at some point, I began to feel like he discovered some kind of pattern to out-beat the casino. Only to have him stay in for hours until his balance was busted -- then he came out, looking like captain crunch. I couldn't believe my eyes; the same person was looking for the least for his transportation fare back to where he came from, but the same set of people gave deaf ears -- some even started mocking him behind his back for being both reckless and stupid. In the midst of this confusion and frustration was when the director decided to book him a trip with his own money, I never saw him again. That was when i realized that true support/kindness MAY NOT be reciprocated by the benefactors.
If you support is for gratitude, it don`t looks like true support. Just make and forget. If someone will thanks you - it`s good, if no one willn`t say anything positive about you - it`s ok to. You know that you made something good, helped somebody - it is enough. PS. But i don`t sure that free drink or free chips in casino is a good choice for support.
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нам повезло, что мы вовремя вошли и не прогорели.
я чет не пойму где дадут повышенный лимит на 40 киловатт. я видел такие лимиты, но счас он них толку нет. у меня при большем потреблении 3000 киловатт будут брать по коммерческому тарифу. мож у кого ээ отопление, зимой будут другие лимиты, но счас уже потреблять максимально разрешенное по льготному тарифу невозможно.
ну как повезло. со мной достаточно много народа заходило, большинство в минусе. правда они как раз считали, что всё само придет, надо только карты купить. не на 40, а от 40. там и идет рассчет на 1, 2 асика, до 13 и от 13. видимо как раз с 13 асиков или 40квт и начинается 3й тариф. искать некогда, да и смысла нет, переезжать всё равно не буду. 
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Most of us are probably familiar with live betting in sports. Some might think that when we’re watching the game, live betting makes more sense since we can see what's happening in real time. We get a feel for the momentum, who’s struggling, or who might be about to fall apart.
From that point of view, we start to believe we have an edge, that maybe the bookmaker has overvalued or undervalued the odds, and if we catch it quickly enough, we can place a smart bet and capitalize.
But here’s what I want to ask:
Do those “opportunities” we think we’re spotting actually turn into real profit in our bankroll? Or are we just convincing ourselves it’s profitable without any solid long-term results to back it up?
My "territory" mostly low leagues and i see the odds only online(if i see it ever  ), so i don`t have another choice. The same time i can say that sometimes translation can change your prediction. In low leagues there are lots of fixed matches, so watching the match you can see it and change your bet or cash out. I can`t calculate how profitable was watching the game, but it saved me few times at least. I think that it is common for online betting.
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Moral of the story? ~ Stop believing every post on Twitter or Facebook. Ignoring the fact that every bitcoiner should live by the principle of "don't trust, verify," these are gambling stories, and you could trust a gambler about this as much as a fisherman and his stories about the 20-meter 100 tons carp he just failed to catch.
There is another hand of this situation. We can read it hear and react on it here - it don`t need anything from us, just few words about situation. Or we can spend some time with our own research. If any news doesn`t make me to spend some resources and don`t change my mind or my life - i willn`t search proves. For me it doesn`t matter truth it was or fake.
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Although most of the time we end up losing, there are those moments when we actually win big, and of course, that feels great! I’m just curious, since we all have different ways of enjoying our wins, let’s talk about the positive side of gambling for a change, which is winning.
So, how do you guys spend your winnings? Don’t worry, feel free to be honest - after all, it’s your money, so it’s your right to spend it however you want.
I calculated my profit after Sunday events. If the week was good - i went in a restaurant with my family, or some show or cinema. Several times i catch big odds, that evenings we didn`t wait weekend. PS. For a half a year of non-stop betting in crazy rhythm i got enough money to repair my house and went on vacation with my wife.
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104 по 12-15 кажется брал, продал по 40, 5600 брал от 17 до 25 вроде. продал... ну просто продал короче  ну так вот, заработал иксы и еще продал потом железо дороже  а попробуй так в другом деле ну ты почитай сколько народу прогорело, сколько на хаях закупалось. может и в сх так же? был же выше пример с луком. При этом содержать майнинг-ферму на 13+ ASIC-устройств дешевле всего будет в Красноярском крае Источникчета я не знаю как можно содержать 13+ ASIC без регистраций. максимум че в 6 000 кВт·ч в месяц. максимум 2 асика не более 7 кВт·ч и еще чета должно на свои нужды оставаться. ток вот то незадача, оказывается 6 000 кВт·ч не на всю страну. вкаждом регионе еще свои лимиты. видимо и имеется ввиду больший лимит: При расширении майнинговой деятельности до 12 устройств Хакасия остается лидером по экономической эффективности, но разница с другими регионами сокращается. Для более крупных ферм (от 13 ASIC-устройств) самым выгодным регионом становится Красноярский край, где действуют особые условия тарифообразования.там расчет идет с учетом тарифов как раз. асик за 3 квт считается.
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What was written in the book was correct, and that's the reality.
IMO, those who will win against the house edge are primarily relying on luck, not skills, and Taleb doesn’t deny that fact, in fact, being prepared increases your chances of success. What he emphasizes is that even among the prepared, luck still influences outcomes.
Sometimes, equally prepared gamblers achieve very different results due to randomness. So, while preparation always matters, it’s also important to remain humble and remember that chance often plays a larger role than we realize.
Chance, luck - it is words for short-term games. If we are talking about long numbers - maths wins. You can be "lucky monkey" for a week, month may be. But if you in the game more than a year - it is only skill. Your brain work, experience, search information skills, etc. On a such distance luck can decrease or increase your win rate for 1-2%, that`s all.
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Maybe some are getting the idea wrongly, because joining a gambling group does not increase any chances of winning a bet, as a matter of fact, some could actually be a waste of time because what is being given there could also be achieved by our own self if we can give the necessary time and have the information needed, everyone took their own time to learn and acquire something, we should learn to give back to the community instead of being among those they will be running after gambling groups to join and receive predictions.
Possible! But I think if that doesn't require a subscription fee, there's nothing wrong with it, just like a community for discussing positive thoughts and strategies on how to win. However, if it's a paid group, it's a waste of time. Some of these groups can indeed be scams, preying on people’s hopes and potentially causing financial or even misleading information like Sports betting, in particular, often gives a false sense of advantage, but in reality, it rarely offers good chances of winning. Instead of chasing quick fixes, it’s better to contribute positively by sharing knowledge and experiences within the community. In my situation i`ve got profit and studying. I started betting without any experience, so i didn`t knew where to search information, how to calculate risk, what moments look at during analyze, etc. So i`ve got all these knowledge and profit the same time. But i waited few months and watched the results of this group. When i got some free money for experiments, i tried few paid group, few free prediction groups with unknown users - i never got profit and any useful information. As result i can just repeat. It it possible to find such group but it is really rare situation to get something useful from it. As for me - better to avoid it. Again. I don`t recommend anybody to repeat it because my situation is not typical.
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Bla-bla-bla... Resonsobility... Gambling hurts.. and all other templates.
Why we don`t speak about gamblers, who play clever, who stopped drink due to gambling, who just spend few bucks for relax? It is the main part of gamblers, but we speak about 1-2% of losers and say how gambling hurts. And such threads repeat one another day by day. Stop struggle against gambling.
Those who have a good understanding of gambling never carry negative ideas about it. They try to get real pleasure from gambling. Many people may not be able to directly see the pleasure of gambling, but there is a lot of joy here too. Especially during the Covid-19 period, online gambling gave people a lot of joy from home. People were able to understand very well how much joy gambling can bring. Those who fail to manage gambling will never find the good side of gambling. It is also not possible to get any positive ideas from those people. Since gambling does not force anyone, if one thinks about it impartially, the good sides of gambling come up. Gambling is a wonderful tool that we have. Why we always see so negative threads? If someone hurts himself with the hammer we don`t create lots of threads like "hammer kills", "be aware of hammers", "responsible hammering"? If it has some restrictions in some countries - ok. We have to obey the law. But if gambling is allowed - why we have to avoid it? Such threads remove potential gambler from the game. And i can`t say that it would be better if they would drink a lot for example.
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