To repeat:
KYC & Whitelisting are described in the whitepaper which is over 1.5yr old.
Notice of requirements appeared in every social media/channel/announcement board that the firm has 2 months before being implemented.
We encourage you to follow ATLANT news and releases on Telegram and blog.atlant.io a little closer. The project has more to offer than just bounty.[/b]
Can you point me part of whitepaper where it says that bounty hunters have to pay 1 ETH to receive their rewards? |
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To Frogman and all Atlant Staff here. Let us all be fair guys. You know, this project had somehow failed the bounty participants early on.
KYC per se is something I admit is almost necessary nowadays, given the fact that government regulations require a lot to those projects that want to be duly registered. Atlant I believe is going through the legal way to develop their project.
However, it is not hard for the project to give the bounty participants here enough time to comply. You do not just come with a late announcement and then forfeit everything from those who complied late. A lot of people were not able to comply, including myself, because the process of payment has already been going on for several months. Everything seemed to be smooth sailing. And then all of a sudden, changes are made. And it is not just a little change. We are talking here of passing KYC, which will not be approved in an hour or two. Actually, bounty participants could be spared from it. After all, not all of them will be using the platform. They just helped promote this project in exchange for some tokens.
Also, 1 ETH is too much. That might even be higher than the payment itself. This is the first time that I encountered a bounty campaign that requires participants to pay 1 ETH to receive their bounty. It is simply insane. It goes beyond reason.
Bounty participants of this project have been treated rather poorly. Please be considerate!
I answered you in the main thread - please don't copy-paste the same comments in both places, and keep bounty conversation to the bounty thread.
To repeat:
KYC & Whitelisting are described in the whitepaper which is over 1.5yr old.
Notice of requirements appeared in every social media/channel/announcement board that the firm has 2 months before being implemented.
We encourage you to follow ATLANT news and releases on Telegram and blog.atlant.io a little closer. The project has more to offer than just bounty. |
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To Frogman and all Atlant Staff here. Let us all be fair guys. You know, this project had somehow failed the bounty participants early on.
KYC per se is something I admit is almost necessary nowadays, given the fact that government regulations require a lot to those projects that want to be duly registered. Atlant I believe is going through the legal way to develop their project.
However, it is not hard for the project to give the bounty participants here enough time to comply. You do not just come with a late announcement and then forfeit everything from those who complied late. A lot of people were not able to comply, including myself, because the process of payment has already been going on for several months. Everything seemed to be smooth sailing. And then all of a sudden, changes are made. And it is not just a little change. We are talking here of passing KYC, which will not be approved in an hour or two. Actually, bounty participants could be spared from it. After all, not all of them will be using the platform. They just helped promote this project in exchange for some tokens.
Also, 1 ETH is too much. That might even be higher than the payment itself. This is the first time that I encountered a bounty campaign that requires participants to pay 1 ETH to receive their bounty. It is simply insane. It goes beyond reason.
Bounty participants of this project have been treated rather poorly. Please be considerate!
KYC & Whitelisting are described in the whitepaper which is over 1.5yr old.
Notice of requirements appeared in every social media/channel/announcement board that the firm has 2 months before being implemented.
We encourage you to follow ATLANT news and releases on Telegram and blog.atlant.io a little closer. The project has more to offer than just bounty. |
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No such thing was said "No one expects..." - it should be pretty obvious, because no-one, speaks for everyone.
Terms and conditions stipulated that US persons were not to participate, as did IP restrictions, as did support and telegram community leaders when asked.
As you were told in the initial post stop your FUD, noob.
That is your opinion, and until you get out here in the real world, you are entitled to it. The first thing youll learn about business, once you turn 18, is that CEOs actually do apeak for the entire team, and with a little searching on telegram, you could actually find what I am quoting, but that would be constructive effort and you change your world view, so its better if you just sit there and say nuh-uh with your head in the sand, right? There were no ip address restrictions, no banners or warning flairs, nothing in the ico exchange agreement - literally just prices in USD and a bunch of scam artists. You are literally the worst person to defend atlant because you are too emotional and, again, at least werent here for the ico or you would know these things for a fact. They are literally not up for debate for anyone who has been around the project this long. You thinm there were community leaders and terms and conditions to the ico hahahahaha Remove your lips frrom their butts plz. Dude, please, grow up. Your only defense is nuh-uh and using my rhetorical age selection against me isn't any proof that the CEO didn't say those words. As I said, it would be very easy for you to go find it, I believe telegram has a search button. But that would be a lot of effort, and crypto-kitties don't do research, as you and the other sycophants have proven. I'd find it myself, but I'd have to get a third telephone number to join, and that's too much effort to get banned again for simple questions. Or rather, simple questions to answer, if youre not running a bullshit operation. . |
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I do particularly like that Senor Julian said, in plain english, that the platform would have it's license before the end of the year (2018, not 2019) as "No one expects it to take until the end of the year.
This was probably April of last year.
How is anyone still investing here? Atlant is a great idea, the team is destroying it though.
1. You have a new account and each of your 3 posts since the account was created bash Atlant - interesting.
2. What you are saying is not accurate, the team never promised a time-frame for garnering a license, as it's not up to the team, but up to regulators.
Please troll/fud elsewhere.I didnt say they promised a time-frame. I said the CEO said "No one expects it to take until the end of the year." That's a lot different than what you're saying I said he said. Just because it's negative, doesn't make it untrue, I've probably been here a lot longer than you if you can't picture the CEO saying what I said he said. Be gone you apologist, unless you want to have an actual conversation about what is actually said. Forums like these are great because you can't misquote me on purpose to your benefit, it just gets called out.\ Edit: As for my newness to BTCtalk, yea, I don't circlejerk in crypto communities much, but I was banned from ATL telegram for merely pointing out that myself and 4 other people I know participated in the ICO of atlant, and had no idea it wasn't allowed for U.S. people (prices were literally quoted in USD..). I guess they don't want that info getting out. Exactly I have heard many times before and when ICO was ongoing that platform is almost ready and all regulations like certificats and agreements will be no problem and Atlant platform will be fully launched until the end of 2018. I have pointed this out few times in Telegram and was banned of course. Additionally, December distribution was only to 40 ETH addresses and in November that was almost 900. What will happen with this not paid tokens? In my opinion, should be burned or paid to the rest of the bounty hunters eligible for payouts.
You must be very careful with words - nobody said "ready and all regulations like certificats [sic] and agreements will be no problem". Right now many teams globally are attacking the tokenization concept, from various vectors, yet there's yet no clear success-story. Two of the major problems is that most don't have a platform, or clear legal structure to operate. Nobody said that this will be easy, but the ATLANT team is working very hard on licensing, and has developed a robust platform, ready to operate.But this is very easy to prove that Atlant CEO said that the platform is almost ready and until end of 2018 Atlant will be fully operative. Just watch youtube videos from the Atlant official YouTube channel and you will see. Of course if these videos are still there not deleted. As I said, I thought before and during ICO that the certification will be the biggest problem because nobody has done such things before and of course, I shared my fears on Telegram and asked many questions about this subject. Like I told you I was banned and at the start, I have heard that they are almost there (as always) and during the time when more people started to ask the same questions, first of all, they stopped to talk about this topic and later found an excuse that this information can not be disclosed because they can't preannounce this and is kept secret as an agreement. I asked many detailed questions: - where Atlant asked for certification, license. - what for license or certificates. - how far they are already. - how much time is needed approximately? Of course (like I said before) never got a proper answer only "we are almost there" in begin of the ICO and ban from Telegram group a few weeks later. I have to add that despite all these shady moves from Atlant with bounty distribution, lack of information, bad support, problems with team leaders, massive Telegram bans and many more. I am still a supporter of this project and wish them all the best. I see that the CEO is very involved and development is ongoing of course not without problems and delays. I know that nobody has done such a thing before and if Atlant succeeds we can be very happy that we have invested so early but concurrence don't sleep and they have to hurry up because there are plenty of new real estate and P2P rental projects started in the last year.
Nobody gets banned for asking questions, the team is always very open. |
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No such thing was said "No one expects..." - it should be pretty obvious, because no-one, speaks for everyone.
Terms and conditions stipulated that US persons were not to participate, as did IP restrictions, as did support and telegram community leaders when asked.
As you were told in the initial post stop your FUD, noob.
That is your opinion, and until you get out here in the real world, you are entitled to it. The first thing youll learn about business, once you turn 18, is that CEOs actually do apeak for the entire team, and with a little searching on telegram, you could actually find what I am quoting, but that would be constructive effort and you change your world view, so its better if you just sit there and say nuh-uh with your head in the sand, right? There were no ip address restrictions, no banners or warning flairs, nothing in the ico exchange agreement - literally just prices in USD and a bunch of scam artists. You are literally the worst person to defend atlant because you are too emotional and, again, at least werent here for the ico or you would know these things for a fact. They are literally not up for debate for anyone who has been around the project this long. You thinm there were community leaders and terms and conditions to the ico hahahahaha Remove your lips frrom their butts plz. |
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From what I see there are only few bounty hunters who passed KYC and whitelisted address.
December distribution was only to 40 ETH addresses and in November that was almost 900.
What will happen with this not paid tokens?
In my opinion, they should be burned or paid to the rest of the bounty hunters eligible for payouts.
 Hi Wwzsocki how are you, have you fulfilled KYC and whitelisted ETH address before distribution? I have counted 45 in December. I had KYC but whitelisted ETH address 2 days after December distribution and didn't get paid. I think it should be paid together with January bounty to be fair. If you don't like to read my repeats then don't do it. I will repeat myself a hundred times and luckily you can't stop me. Additionally, I have repeated myself because somebody asked me a question. I would say nothing but there was nothing said that whitelisting is needed for December bounty. Just a few days before distribution Atlant announced whitelisting. Like I said long before distribution I made KYC and waited for my bounty payment. 2 Days before distribution I saw whitelisting announcement and couldn't do it because didn't have needed 1ETH and later problems with whitelisting on the platform. Asked for help many times and nobody responded, even in this thread. Finally, random Bitcointalk member sent me a PM with detailed info about how to do it when he saw my posts here because he had just whitelisted his address and find this confusing too. I see many people keep asking questions on Telegram how to do it every day despite there was a blog post added on Medium (of course long after December distribution). After all, when finally whitelisted and paid 1ETH, I didn't get my December bounty paid despite I have asked if I do but of course didn't get the answer. There should be a minimum time of 2 weeks or a month from the announcement to fulfill new requirement, not a few days. So whitelisting should be taken into consideration from January and all people who made KYC before December should get their bounty paid. PERIOD.
Whitepaper written over a year ago talks about kyc/whitelisting, also if you like writing so much, perhaps you could also try reading blog.atlant.io sometimes, as it talked about kyc/whitelisting a few months before it wen into effect. |
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will you pay back 1eth for kyc ?
kyc is free |
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From what I see there are only few bounty hunters who passed KYC and whitelisted address.
December distribution was only to 40 ETH addresses and in November that was almost 900.
What will happen with this not paid tokens?
In my opinion they should be burned or paid to the rest of bounty hunters eligible for payouts.
Hi Wwzsocki how are you, have you fulfilled KYC and whitelisted ETH address before distribution? I have counted 45 in december. I had KYC but whitelisted ETH address 2 days after December distribution and didn't get paid. I think it should be paid together with January bounty to be fair. |
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I do particularly like that Senor Julian said, in plain english, that the platform would have it's license before the end of the year (2018, not 2019) as "No one expects it to take until the end of the year.
This was probably April of last year.
How is anyone still investing here? Atlant is a great idea, the team is destroying it though.
1. You have a new account and each of your 3 posts since the account was created bash Atlant - interesting.
2. What you are saying is not accurate, the team never promised a time-frame for garnering a license, as it's not up to the team, but up to regulators.
Please troll/fud elsewhere.I didnt say they promised a time-frame. I said the CEO said "No one expects it to take until the end of the year." That's a lot different than what you're saying I said he said. Just because it's negative, doesn't make it untrue, I've probably been here a lot longer than you if you can't picture the CEO saying what I said he said. Be gone you apologist, unless you want to have an actual conversation about what is actually said. Forums like these are great because you can't misquote me on purpose to your benefit, it just gets called out.\ Edit: As for my newness to BTCtalk, yea, I don't circlejerk in crypto communities much, but I was banned from ATL telegram for merely pointing out that myself and 4 other people I know participated in the ICO of atlant, and had no idea it wasn't allowed for U.S. people (prices were literally quoted in USD..). I guess they don't want that info getting out. Exactly I have heard many times before and when ICO was ongoing that platform is almost ready and all regulations like certificats and agreements will be no problem and Atlant platform will be fully launched until the end of 2018. I have pointed this out few times in Telegram and was banned of course. Additionally, December distribution was only to 40 ETH addresses and in November that was almost 900. What will happen with this not paid tokens? In my opinion, should be burned or paid to the rest of the bounty hunters eligible for payouts.
You must be very careful with words - nobody said "ready and all regulations like certificats [sic] and agreements will be no problem". Right now many teams globally are attacking the tokenization concept, from various vectors, yet there's yet no clear success-story. Two of the major problems is that most don't have a platform, or clear legal structure to operate. Nobody said that this will be easy, but the ATLANT team is working very hard on licensing, and has developed a robust platform, ready to operate. |
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I do particularly like that Senor Julian said, in plain english, that the platform would have it's license before the end of the year (2018, not 2019) as "No one expects it to take until the end of the year.
This was probably April of last year.
How is anyone still investing here? Atlant is a great idea, the team is destroying it though.
1. You have a new account and each of your 3 posts since the account was created bash Atlant - interesting.
2. What you are saying is not accurate, the team never promised a time-frame for garnering a license, as it's not up to the team, but up to regulators.
Please troll/fud elsewhere.I didnt say they promised a time-frame. I said the CEO said "No one expects it to take until the end of the year." That's a lot different than what you're saying I said he said. Just because it's negative, doesn't make it untrue, I've probably been here a lot longer than you if you can't picture the CEO saying what I said he said. Be gone you apologist, unless you want to have an actual conversation about what is actually said. Forums like these are great because you can't misquote me on purpose to your benefit, it just gets called out.\ Edit: As for my newness to BTCtalk, yea, I don't circlejerk in crypto communities much, but I was banned from ATL telegram for merely pointing out that myself and 4 other people I know participated in the ICO of atlant, and had no idea it wasn't allowed for U.S. people (prices were literally quoted in USD..). I guess they don't want that info getting out.
No such thing was said "No one expects..." - it should be pretty obvious, because no-one, speaks for everyone.
Terms and conditions stipulated that US persons were not to participate, as did IP restrictions, as did support and telegram community leaders when asked.
As you were told in the initial post stop your FUD, noob. |
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I do particularly like that Senor Julian said, in plain english, that the platform would have it's license before the end of the year (2018, not 2019) as "No one expects it to take until the end of the year.
This was probably April of last year.
How is anyone still investing here? Atlant is a great idea, the team is destroying it though.
1. You have a new account and each of your 3 posts since the account was created bash Atlant - interesting.
2. What you are saying is not accurate, the team never promised a time-frame for garnering a license, as it's not up to the team, but up to regulators.
Please troll/fud elsewhere. |
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Listen, 'human rights', why don't you try crossing an international border with your documents. Once they turn you away, you can tell the Polish border patrol about 'human rights', 'Ukrainian language', 'discrimination', 'your dignity' or whatever else.
See how well that works.
The team has answered your questions - if you can't comply with the rules, stop wasting everyone's collective time. Ukraine2020, Per our terms and conditions, we do not accept non-English documents. The only exceptions are in situations where our compliance officers have specific knowledge of the languages and documents submitted, and further clarification. Currently the world has 37 million native Ukrainian speakers which is approximately 0.4% of the 7.7 billion world's population. Thus unfortunately, at present, for business and other reasons, ATLANT is unable to justify a compliance officer who is versed in the Ukrainian language, and ask you to provide documents in English. We investigated your claim that “in Ukraine there are no passports or IDs in English”, and it is false. We advise you to study the legislation of Ukraine, or read these articles in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_passporthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_identity_cardWe would like to ask you to kindly stop your ongoing FUD, and provide necessary documents for verification, if you are interested in undergoing KYC/AML on ATLANT. Regards, ATLANT Team Good day! Thanks for the answer. Well, if you think that the Ukrainian will not work because there are few Ukrainians, then I will send 2 pages of the passport. She is in Russian! About the passport - no, I do not lie. Because I, as a citizen of Ukraine, have the right to choose - a plastic card or a paper passport. This is my legal right and not an obligation. Speaking of my obligation to deliver documents in English, you limit my right. I, as a citizen, have the right to defend my rights in any legal way, including in a court of law. Moreover, payment receipts in Ukraine are also issued in Ukrainian or Russian. Moreover, the payment receipts are issued only for one family member. The payment document cannot be a confirmation of my address. Confirmation of my address can be letters that come to me in the mail. Also my address is confirmed in the paper passport. But registration of my residence is also indicated in UKRAINIAN! What should I do? Change your passport? Again, from a legal and ethical point of view, I am right. Because before the conclusion of the public announcement of the work (bounty), the condition was not made that verification is necessary. Moreover, the Ukrainian language is even used to file applications to the International Court of Human Rights. Please articulate discrimination or suggest another way to resolve this issue. Also, please stop accusing me of lying. This is slander. Illegal accusations. And you, as a company, do not have the right to degrade my dignity with such statements. Thanks for the answer. Sincerely. Hello! This is a passport of a citizen of Ukraine, not a passport for travel abroad. Feel the difference? If not, read the laws of Ukraine. If the team is confident in its correctness, welcome to the court. I know my rights, because I defend them. Penalties, legal costs and moral damages will fall entirely on the company. I propose to find an alternative peace way. If the team allows, I can provide a passport for travel abroad. But they never spoke about him. But there is no residence permit residence! Get rejected again? Moreover, the team is not right in changing the rules after doing the work. If you answer with your example with the Polish border guard, then the laws establish what documents. And in the case of this, the team has changed the rules. Therefore, I ask for help. Christmas is now. I want to solve everything peacefully. 1. As I mentioned the team has answered your questions 2. We ask you to not put personal data (passport scans) in this thread as it is a violation 3. We ask you to not use or advertise illegal shufflers |
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Listen, 'human rights', why don't you try crossing an international border with your documents. Once they turn you away, you can tell the Polish border patrol about 'human rights', 'Ukrainian language', 'discrimination', 'your dignity' or whatever else.
See how well that works.
The team has answered your questions - if you can't comply with the rules, stop wasting everyone's collective time. Ukraine2020, Per our terms and conditions, we do not accept non-English documents. The only exceptions are in situations where our compliance officers have specific knowledge of the languages and documents submitted, and further clarification. Currently the world has 37 million native Ukrainian speakers which is approximately 0.4% of the 7.7 billion world's population. Thus unfortunately, at present, for business and other reasons, ATLANT is unable to justify a compliance officer who is versed in the Ukrainian language, and ask you to provide documents in English. We investigated your claim that “in Ukraine there are no passports or IDs in English”, and it is false. We advise you to study the legislation of Ukraine, or read these articles in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_passporthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_identity_cardWe would like to ask you to kindly stop your ongoing FUD, and provide necessary documents for verification, if you are interested in undergoing KYC/AML on ATLANT. Regards, ATLANT Team Good day! Thanks for the answer. Well, if you think that the Ukrainian will not work because there are few Ukrainians, then I will send 2 pages of the passport. She is in Russian! About the passport - no, I do not lie. Because I, as a citizen of Ukraine, have the right to choose - a plastic card or a paper passport. This is my legal right and not an obligation. Speaking of my obligation to deliver documents in English, you limit my right. I, as a citizen, have the right to defend my rights in any legal way, including in a court of law. Moreover, payment receipts in Ukraine are also issued in Ukrainian or Russian. Moreover, the payment receipts are issued only for one family member. The payment document cannot be a confirmation of my address. Confirmation of my address can be letters that come to me in the mail. Also my address is confirmed in the paper passport. But registration of my residence is also indicated in UKRAINIAN! What should I do? Change your passport? Again, from a legal and ethical point of view, I am right. Because before the conclusion of the public announcement of the work (bounty), the condition was not made that verification is necessary. Moreover, the Ukrainian language is even used to file applications to the International Court of Human Rights. Please articulate discrimination or suggest another way to resolve this issue. Also, please stop accusing me of lying. This is slander. Illegal accusations. And you, as a company, do not have the right to degrade my dignity with such statements. Thanks for the answer. Sincerely.
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Why do you put again a story that appeared in July of this year? Anyone would say that you do not know how to distract attention... Frogman put the biggest letters, it does not read well.
If you read the thread carefully, he stated previously that we will be going over our achievements, goals and other notable moments of 2018 as the year comes to a close. I do see that you took my advice and are staying true to your nickname. |
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Actually, I am a bounty participant.
The team is kindly asking admins @mprep, and @Welsh to delete/block this user acting to denegrate a project which he is not involved in.
This user is not a bounty participant, the account was recently boughtAdmins, PM if you need a signed message from my address used in the ATLANT bounty. Then, kindly delete their scam ANN & bounty threads from this forum. Scammer, why don't you post your address publically and everyone will see that it doesn't match your username in the bounty sheets. I encourage you to stop wasting everyone's collective time with your FUD. |
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Actually, I am a bounty participant.
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The team is kindly asking admins @mprep, and @Welsh to delete/block this user acting to denegrate a project which he is not involved in.
This user is not a bounty participant, the account was recently bought as it had a long period of inactivity until the recent FUD. |
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I don't know why you suddenly change the entire system for KYC procedure and many people left the project because you are not giving accurate updates about the project. You took very for active developed and now you come up with the verification procedure in order to drag the things.
To answer your questions in order:
1. KYC is not 'sudden' - have a look at the whitepaper written over a year ago on the front page of https://atlant.io.
2. We give very 'accurate' and frequent updates about the project on https://blog.atlant.io and https://t.me/atlant_eng which we encourage you to follow.
3. If I understood the 3rd question correctly - yes we are still in active development, though the tokenization platform is largely ready for deployment. |
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You write with such a large font so that people can not see the previous posts? You look like children...
Stay true to your nickname |
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