And thats probably impossible - because everyone who restarts his wallet - even if he has coins, will receive the message "wallet not synced" - because the software is not expecting no blocks for 50 days or more....

So, to "restart" the chain, there would probably to be a fork - an  update that would just ignore the extreme gap between blocks -  but this would create the risk of frequent forks (if everyone who can't find someone with a recent block can just create his own, and the number of stakers is very low, this will soon result in several paralell chains...)

Depends which version of the wallet you are using... If it's Electra-Core 2.1.3 (or at least 2.1.1) it should basically still be good - if it doesn't sync, you should try adding nodes - you can find active nodes via the explorer https://eca.ccore.online/connections

I'm not sure what you refering to - never heard that part of the (former) ECA team was from Stanford...

Well, I think actually - most coins don't serve a purpose other than that (trying to find someone even more stupid to sell to...)
I don't know about that - If it would be issued by the FED, it's not likely to "disapeer" - more likely is that some people will still find (randomly) learn that their coins will be confiscated by centralized chain operators..

Should only be recommended in cases were the other person has nothing to gain when scamming you... - unfortunately --

There is no one here who has even a minimal clue why your problem with korean Mnemonic exists... And as there is no professional team and no funds to pay one, there is actually zero chance that someone will update the tool to exctract the private key... (And even I - who invested some of my spare time to adapt the Tool for ECA - was not a person responsible for Electra OR personally concerned (had no ECA on mobile wallet, and (at the time of the Snapshot) - no ECA at all). So, for me, it was just a personal hobby to try to find a solution for people with ECA on the mobile wallet. It worked for most - that it didn't work for you is unfortunate.

So, if your really interested in solving that problem, you might have to do it yourself, or at least find a person that is competent to do it...

While things aren't looking that promising, this might still be a bit premature...


Nothing in particular - as Electra is an open source project, everyone can fork it / upgrade it on it's own - so it depends if anyone is going to take action..

There is NOT a "owner" of the project - all holders of ECA are owners in the sense that they own coins - everyone of them could "gater a team" and "try harder" - like most Crypto projects, you are free to take action yourself, or support others that try to do it...

and if you are looking for (marginally) more information, there is a (bit) more going on on

discord: https://discord.gg/FbHzrdAnGp
or Telegram: https://t.me/Electracoin

Just wondering... is there anyone around continouing the OLD monkey project - I see that the explorer www.coinexplorer.net/monk still follows the old chain, that it is regularly staked, although the number of masternodes has severly declined, and the share of active stakers out of total supply is quite low...

Not sure if all Exchanges are actually on the Decenomy version of MONK.

The way the Swap happened, all holders of MONK could keep their OLD-Monk and continue staking / receiving MN rewards while at the same time supporting the new MONK.

So - are there people discussing old-Monkey somewhere? Is old monkey still traded on any exchange? Any information?

Problem with your expectation about A) - a change in paradigm and mentality would require a new species, not the humans we all love - and sometimes hate... - so - dispersing the humans in to outer space might lead to the survival of the species, if they don't have to share the same space / planet anymore...

OTOH, if survival of the human race is really a longterm desirable goal? If not - transhumanism - transforming human identities in some AI system that will be autonomous and can operate independently might be the better option. OR a fully autonomous AI system without the backpack of human feelings, ideologies and errors might be a longterm alternative, but definitely not human...

Of course I can't tell yet what they want to do with their lives - but as the project would certainly take a lot of time till completion - this might not be entirely out of the question

-and one of them actually dreams of a career as a golfer - so may be he will run a golf course on Ganymed.. ?  

There is no team yet - it started as a debate for a use-case on an existing coin-project - that faced some problems - and just beeing another pump and dump coin didn't seen desirable - some of those people showed interest in joining the debate (and no one came up with a different use-case), so the present stage is to get enough attention that a team can be built...

Next stage would then be (if we would follow my provisional roadmap) launch a proper web-site and more social media-channels, discussing a charter for an institution (provisionally called the Jupiter-Colonization-Society) - create it as a public entity (And that would be the time for at least board members  to come out publicly - so that you could see faces) - and only after that would the proper coin / blockchain be released, and listing on exchanges organized...

(some of the people on the debate favour a swap from one - or possibly several - existing coin projects - but this would only make sense if a large part of those communities wanted to come along, IMO)

proposals for street names are welcome! if the first settlements could have streets in domed cities, or would rather be large grounded space stations, will have to be determined later - terraforming will certainly take a lot of time, if due to energy levels it might be possibel at all



Just say - it's intended as a community project, once a qualified web-designer joins the team, I have no problem to pay hosting on a proper server on our own domain...



I'm well aware that there is likely no hard surface,  and gravity on the planet would be to bad for humans anyhow - so clearly the plan can only include to settle the larger moons (size between Luna and somewhat larger than Mercury) and some space stations in orbit..


Without wide support from a global community - but not necessarily- or rather not - various governments or the United Nations- the project will certainly go nowhere. Thats why the route is building a community first, and not try to launch a ERC-20 or BSC-20 Token fast, and bring it on one of the trendy swap sites. This would be a clear indication of an intended exit scam - or ponzi..

So, we should take one step after the other, and it's a very long way to go - but while final success is extremely unlikely, its not impossible per se...

Not intended as such - and no token launch on whatever blockchain planed..

If it gets momentum, all infrastructure will have to be built from scratch - so building a community is the actual stage, relasing a coin on a own blockchain will come later...

thank you for correcting my spelling


Well, not next week, not next year, and likely not next decade as well... But I'm in no particular hurry, if it gets off the ground, it would be a long term project,it might not be completed in my lifetime - but - hopefully - during the lifetime of my grandchildren - the oldest of them are at least already first-graders - so not undefined eternity...

Not really - how far the project could go, depends on how much support grows. If enough people support it, join a global community, and buy, hold - and accept as payment - the planned coin - so that it would grow to significant value, building a basic industry, space stations and a large colonial fleet might become a real possibility.

To have sufficient funds for investing in technology and transportation, for the time until the colonies become self-reliant, the intended legal entity (here called "the Jupiter colonization society") would have to keep a large part of the total coin supply under it's control - to pay for investments - while coin holders could buy services from the JCS - including transportation, real estate asf with the coin, that should finally become the backbone of the financial system of the colonies.

Only when the colonies will become close to profitable or self-sufficient  could the society relax control and use the remaining funds to offer free transportation and housing to desirable immigrants (workers with special skills) or refugees in need.

So - in the unlikely event that the project would succed, occuping the Jupiter system - rather the larger moons, and not the planet itself, would well be the goal...

Well, as I consider most tokens just scams (raising funds for projects that will never go anywhere...), this is a route I will not consider. I'd prefer to build a community that support the concept first, and then release a own coin, and with the growth of community, value might rise. There are to many coins out there hat just saw a hype just after announcement, where the highest price on CMC is just after first listing, followed by an eternal decline...

Hello

This is the start of a new Project - colonizing outer space with the help of a crypto-project


a new future for humanity?

The human race is at a crossroad:

A) greed, shortsightedness, irrationality and political irresponsability might lead to our extermination or severe decimation due to climate change, resource scarcity, war, disease or oppression.

B) technological development might lead to a singularity, as AI might evolve far beyond human capacity and reach true intelligence, thus starting to consider humans (due to A) a intolerable pest that needs to be restricted or exterminated to preserve room for true intelligence.

Between those two paths, a small window of opportunity might remain-

What if humanity manages to reach beyond earth, colonize outer space – from the solar system outward trough the galaxy?

Such an endavour, if it should have a chance to succeed, could not be left to the existing nation state governments, and is unlikely – due to existing structural issues – to come from the United Nations.

So, concerned members of the human race – irrespective of age, gender, race and national or religious heritage, should come together, to make this possible.

SO – WHERE – AND HOW – SHOULD WE START?

WHERE? – lets go to JUPITER!

WHY JUPITER?

the moon – relatively close to earth – could only serve as a temporary base, as it will fall under the influence of the conflicts on earth / competition of various earth governments.

Mars – often named as a potential target – shouldn’t be ruled out, but chances are that it will be pulled in to conflicts and it only offers a somewhat limited resource base.

OTOH, Jupiter is immense, has four large moons that are rich in resources, including water, and is far enough away from Earth that, once started, development might happen relatively undisturbed.

HOW?

lets organize, get attention, build a Jupiter-Colonization-Institution (might be a foundation or society).And then, as a means of crowdfunding, lauch an own Blockchain, with Jupiter Colony Coins giving people a stake in the project, and serving as the financial backbone.



Roadmap

Timeline

2021 Q1 First Concept

2021 Q2 Web-Site goes live, social Media channels founded

2021 Q3 Jupiter-Colonization-Society charter drafted

2021 Q4 JCS – Founded – Blockchain-Development

2022 Q1 Start of own Blockchain / evtl. voluntary SWAP with ECA and other coins

2022 Q2/Q3 Listing on several Exchanges

2022 Q4/2023 Start of Childchain – Io, Europa, Ganymed, Callisto

2023 Jupiter Exchange goes live

2024 ff JCS starts funding of research projects

at least 4 years later Space probes are built – first (unmanned) mission to Jupiter is prepared

Depending on development and funding – building of factories, space stations, assembly lines (may be factories on the moon) will follow, as basis for larger (manned) expeditions, and the start of the colonization process.

Estimates about time needed are not reasonably possible – would just be guessing out of the blue


If you are interested, leave a comment here, join us on

download the recent wallet for your OS from https://electracoin.io

If it doesn't sync properly, you might have to add nodes that you can find at the explorer https://eca.ccore.online/connections (you can add them either one by one at the command line, or paste them in to the Electra.conf).

If you have more questions, there are more active people on Telegram https://t.me/Electracoin or discord https://discord.gg/FbHzrdAnGp

agree - but if you wan't help with that "minimal effort", better to organize with others...

So - may be - discuss in our discord group: https://discord.gg/FbHzrdAnGp

Today actually marks the 4th anniversary of the Electra-Blockchain. I wrote a short (critical) review of it history, and hope it will not become an obituary.. enjoy..

A Brief History of Electra (Electracoin / ECA).

2017 - The beginning – till the End of the Bonanza

The first Block on the Electra-Blockchain was (according to the Explorer) generated 4 years ago, on March 17th, 2017, regular blocks followed from March 29th, and the launch was publicly announced on Bitcointalk on March 30th, 2017, by an anonymous founder going by the name of Electra01.

On Block 1, a pre-mine of 1'000'000'019 (one Billion and nineteen) Electra was mined, while all the following POW blocks till block 11522 only received a tiny reward of 0.00390625 Electra each, so that for the entire period, only 45 Electra (forty-five – not thousand or even million) would be mined. So, at the time of block 11522, circulating supply (total supply – minus unspent pre-mine – would be only 45, with the pre-mine amounting to 99.999995 % of total supply – or the circulating supply to only 0.0000049 % of total supply! Really extreme numbers.

During this period, Electra was listed on a first exchange (Nova-Exchange) and added to Coinmarketcap, with the extreme disparity between total supply and circulating supply. Initially, only small fractions of an Electra were traded, volume around $1, but as this was for a small fraction, prices fluctuated between $20 and $800 for an entire Electra, although there were no trades for that “large” amounts…
Then, with block 11523, on June 12th, 2017, the super Bonanza period started, with block-rewards suddenly rising to 65'972'222 per block, thus increasing the “circulating” supply extremely fast. Electra01 had stated that the aim of the super-rewards Bonanza was to “create a goldrush”. So, in the next 288 blocks, total supply increased to exactly 20'000'000'000 (20 Billion) Electra.

During those 288 blocks, none of this fast-rising supply could hit the market, as they needed 288 confirmations for transfers. So, the price on Nova-Exchange did not crash (yet). And then, at the end of that period, at block 11810, the POW stage ended, and the chain moved to POS only, and came to a halt early on June 14th, because E01 had not cared to create enough staking inputs (by – e.g. – splitting the pre-mine). The blockchain remained stuck, until on June 22nd, the start of wallet version 1.1 allowed for another 1000 POW blocks (with 1 ECA reward each).

During the time of the Bonanza and the time when the Blockchain remained stuck, Electra01 was publicly claiming that Electra was now worth more than BTC, because he demanded that the high price from the time when there were only 45 coins would now be multiplied with those 19 Billion coins that could not hit the market due to being unconfirmed and stuck on a not moving chain… He mostly complained about Coinmarketcap, that according to his claim, had unfairly failed to update the circulation supply. Thus, the hope to create huge attention, failed.

Was the Bonanza intended as just a ridiculous hoax or a huge scam attempt that fell horribly flat? At least it failed to attract a lot of publicity.

Once the chain had started moving again, the extra coins from the Bonanza started to hit the only Exchange, and price crashed extremely hard to 1 sat and below (Nova-Exchange only allowed 1 sat as minimum price, but the sell-wall soon amounted to 2 Billion ECA – and trade than moved to the LTC and particularly the DOGE market, where most trades now happened at far sub-sat levels…

2017 – post Bonanza – just one more minor coin

Another problem was soon noticed – while the chain was now moving again, and after 1000 blocks, switched to POS only, the calculation of the staking rewards was way off – instead of the promised 50% annually, rewards were often only fractions of an Electra… This problem was solved with a second Hard-Fork (Wallet-Version 1.2), that occurred at block 17102 on July 14th.
From then on, Electra was just an ordinary high-supply, high-staking rate coin with a price usually far sub-sat, quite an uneven distribution (very few very big whales) with a blockchain that was more or less working fine, although some flaws in the difficulty adjustment formula did lead to somewhat irregular block times – instead of the target of one block every 5 minutes, blocks came often way faster, but then sometimes took way more time (sometimes up to several hours), and so, on average, instead of the 288 blocks expected, the 1.2 Chain only had about 210 blocks a day…

During the rest of the summer of 2017, not much was happening – sometimes, price trackers showed wild fluctuations, but this was just because every time someone had bought a few ECA at the excessive price of 1 Sat from the huge sell wall, price seemed to jump up, but most of the trades were against DOGE. During that time, a second, widely unknown, exchange also opened a DOGE/ECA market and attempted to attract users with the promise that they would even stake your ECA for you. This Exchange went by the name of Coinsmarkets.com.
At the end of summer, with little debate on Bitcointalk, some people decided to try to promote Electra on newer social-media channels, and formed a group, first on Telegram, on how to build a supportive community.

Discussion centered around a potential use-case, about a new design, the start of a new website, and finding some more exchanges.
But in November, another setback happened, Nova-Exchange announced that it had changed hands, and would not allow any new user registration anymore. So, Electra seemed to be down to Coinsmarkets as only exchange.

The New (Community) Team was looking for new Exchanges, with «Next Exchange» being forever «Next» - as after large announcement, it never really got off the ground… Around the end of 2017, the new Website (Electraproject.org) was launched, and the new Logo promoted.

2017 / 2018 – Coinsmarkets pump, crash, and aftermath

Then, something unexpected happened – while there was a general bull-market, and many rather unknown Alt-Coins saw huge price hikes, Electra on Coinsmarkets put it to the extreme – early in December, price was still well below 0.1 sat, but then, and particularly between Christmas and January 3th, 2018, the price completely exploded, price reached around 60 sat on January 3, so it had pumped ca. 1000 fold (not 1000% - one thousand times) in just 3 weeks. So, around that time, Electra would have a market cap of >200 Million $ and be ranked around place 100 on Coinmarketcap. At the turn of the year to mid-January, some more – rather unknown – exchanges listed Electra, (Coinhouse.eu, Coinscontrol, Bitafex, and finally Crypto-Bridge). But on the 4th of January, Coinsmarkets went offline (they already had problems on the third), Electra had for some days no price on Coinmarketcap.com, as the exchange where most of the remaining volume was – at Coinhouse.eu – (were the price declined from 70 to 50 sat in a few days, but still…) was not accepted by them, - until Crypto-Bridge listed in mid-January.

During this huge spike, most of the large holders from the Bonanza period had cashed out (some had dumped earlier – some still stayed on – but still…), and when Coinsmarkets went offline, around 5 Billion Electra remained stuck there. This did create huge anxiety, as many new buyers had just got in at ATH, and there was no contact for Coinsmarkets available…OTOH, this had also the result that now many people had a stake with Electra, as they wanted to save their investment, so participation in all forums of the new Team was quite high. Until the end of February, the price of Electra had declined substantially, to less than 1/6 of the peak price.

End of February 2018, coinsmarkets opened a withdrawal window for very few coins, one of them was Electra, so, at least, many Electra holders got their coins out. And then, Coinsmarkets just vanished, never to be seen ever (no real-world address / person was ever identified and made accountable, AFAIK), and the remaining Electra were then dumped on Crypto-Bridge during late March and April.

2018 – some ups – and some delays and setbacks

While most of the early Exchanges had gone offline (not only Nova and Coinsmarkets, but in the meantime also Coinhouse, Coinscontrol and Bitafex), Electra was finally listed on Cryptopia and Coinfalcon, and from then – early May 2018, prices started to recover somewhat.

The “Team” had decided to promote Electra as a leading future payment provider. As a first step, they announced the launch of a new wallet, which they called the “Desktop wallet”. This product was much hyped, if offered restoration of your private keys via a Mnemonic code and a neat graphic design, but technically, was just a different GUI to the original 1.2 Qt wallet, with significantly less functionality for experienced users. This wallet was released with still several bugs and was a point of conflict between the Team and Electra01, who clearly stated that he did not support that release.

The “New” wallet, however, did not solve some more pressing issues – initially, it was stated that Electra should have a maximum supply of 30 Billion coins. With a staking rate of 50% annually (a bit more with compound interest), this number would be reached in the second half of 2018 – what then? Ignoring the cap (because it was nowhere in the code) OR just stop staking at all? … Development of a wallet / Blockchain update to address this issue (which would require a hardfork) took quite some time – as the limit of 30 Billion drew closer, uncertainty about future staking rates increased, and the price started to fall again…

When the update to Version 1.3 of the wallet finally took effect at block 112201 on October 4th, 2018, the staking rate was extremely cut, to just 2.5% annually, and announced to fall even further rather soon. So, the incentive to hold and stake Electra declined heavily, and the price continued its downward trajectory…

Around that time, the Team finally reached a deal with Electra01, in which he promised to hand over part of the premine to a foundation, created under Dutch law. The foundation would support the development and promotion of Electra.

From its blockchain at that time, Electra could not be called a technically leading project, and thus, the necessity for a further upgrade was clearly evident.

2019 – Blockchain-upgrade, and some more – but more troubles with exchanges

The Upgrade to the Electra-Core V2 Wallet was activated at block 182750, on February 22nd, 2019. The new wallet is technically a Fork of the PIVX wallet, a leading coin linking POS with Masternodes – there are many PIVX clones out there, most run MN, and it is technically also implemented in the Electra-Core wallets Masternodes were never activated with Electra, but combining MN with proportional stake rates would also be somewhat special.

 (As a specialty, Electra was one of the very few coins that mastered such an upgrade without a swap, by importing the old blockchain in to the new one).

Other technical improvements that were much promoted was the implementation of AtomicSwaps (a technology that was much hyped but is de facto useless outside of Decentralized Exchanges (DEX) with sufficient liquidity) and the start of the own mobile Wallets for both Android and IOS devices.
Both were promoted as big steps forward on the road to make Electra-Pay ready to “ mass adoption”  with merchants and customers.

But the year brough also setbacks: Cryptopia, the exchange with the largest volume of Electra-Trading, went offline early in the year (and up to today, at least 2 Billion Electra are still stuck there), and later, Crypto-Bridge and Coinexchange followed suit. There were some new – smaller – exchanges that newly listed Electra (e.g., Crex24 and STEX), but generally, the picture was not so bright, and some people felt that the Team was better in announcing future announcements than in presenting results…

So, it was not surprising that the price, after some recovery after the launch of the mobile wallets, returned to its long-term downward trajectory once again.

2020 – some more modest progress – but finally split and crash

Comes along 2020 – while the team insisted that Electra-Pay and mass-adaption are on track, not that much changed. When in the summer Electra got listed on HitBTC, a mid-sized exchange, some pump happened again, but this was soon followed by a dump. The Team accused Electra01 to dump the bulk of the remaining pre-mine (instead, as they claimed to have agreed before, hand it over to the foundation) (conflicts between the team and Electra01 had gone on for quite some time), and thus pulled the plug, by announcing on November 25th 2020, that they would move to a new project called Electra-Protocol with the ticker XEP, that people who held Electra on their wallets (but not on exchanges, staking pools etc.) at the time of a snapshot on November 22 and were neither named Electra01 nor had participated in the Bonanza mining could claim an Airdrop between January 1th and January 10th, 2021 – and just BTW, that support for the mobile wallets (including connectivity) would stop at the end of 2020, unless Electra01 would pay a relative large amount to maintain them.

After this announcement, price of Electra collapsed to – again – far sub-sat levels.
While Electra01 organized a modest new website and a new Explorer, nothing much happened. Many people got the XEP Airdrop, but many were left behind, particularly mobile wallet users.

2021 – a new start – or just an obituary?

Some people try to organize themselves into a remnant of a community – but if this brief history is more of an obituary, or marks a new turning point, must remain open for now.

I noticed the anniversary a few days ago - and actually prepared an - somewhat critical - Birthday toast - hoping that it's not becoming an obituary...(to be published later today)

I am, however, a bit puzzled what you are talking about when you state "are being rebuilt" - and even more how they could make "Electra a force to be reckoned"

o.k, this is surprising - while I can see the information following your link, this is most likely a web-cache picture. Because if I then seek it on google-play - it doesn't show anymore.

So, if you still can download it, this would be a problem of google - that they don't update all their sites / local stores at the same time. In my area, I can't download it anymore.

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But to the rest: There is no team actually developing Electra, and this has been announced in early december, and the end of live of the mobile wallet has as well be announced as taking effect on january 1.

The former Team left to XEP.

As I didn't agree that the mobile wallet holders should be left out in this way, I tried to help by looking for options (I'm not a developper, and not a holder of ECA on mobile wallets - so it's just a technical problem I was looking for a work around / to help others).

The tool I was able to adapt marginally to include / support ECA - and that as you showed - works if you have a Mnemonic in English - seems to use a different set of characters for Korean (I looked them up on the code - the words seem to be flatter than on the BIP 39 mnemonic word list.. - So - may be - the tools doesn't work with korean - or - in case there would be some diffentiation in the korean alphabet as well as with UPPER CASE / lower case letters - it would only support the other variant ("lower case")

And yes, everytime you hit a language select button on the tool, it seems to download much of the code from the original website, ignoring the information already displayed - thus deleting the entry for Electra [But if you DONT select language, it should still work, as it will recognize words in all languages in wordlist - but only in lower case (and what would be korean "lower case" - I don't know),