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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 12:07:08 PM
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Looks like a lot of you have got your knickers in a bunch over the suggestion of an airdrop. Just because it has been put up for a vote, does not mean it will be implemented. I'm pretty sure Evan will not go through with it based on the comments coming through. The only people who seem to be in favour have come out of the woodwork to support the idea. I
Yeah, it really says something about community went people panic sell over an poll. Hey, cheap coins for those of us that don't have weak hands. If anyone was thinking they want to run a masternode, it's a decent opportunity to grab 1000DRK. I'll be releasing the code tomorrow to launch your masternode and we'll hard fork in the next 4 weeks to begin payments. Is that the final number Evan? While I have enough for a few nodes, wouldn't you think 250 or maybe 500DRK a bit more reasonable? Even considering the technical knowledge one is expected to have in order to run a node. Also, is the final number going to be scaled against price so that the cost in fiat to run a masternode stays roughly constant? The point of them is to make it very expensive to acquire them. Imagine the following: A: - User asks "Should I create a masternode?" - it costs $XXX, they would earn $X.XX/day. That's X days till they earn 100% of their investment. - User buys 1000 DRK, creates masternode - Price goes higher, 1000DRK gets pulled out of the supply - Go to A This is a feedback loop that I'm creating. We should add masternodes until the price goes really high and it's too expensive to buy the darkcoin to start a masternode. Let's say after the feedback loop completes the price of Darkcoin is $5 and we have 1200 nodes. At that point we have six million dollar in masternodes, to gain 50% of the network to do an attack would probably cost much more than six million dollars, so it's not possible anymore. The other problem is all nodes need to keep a list of all of the masternodes. We want a bunch, but we don't want more than 10k probably. If the requirement is too low we'll end up with a bunch of network traffic from all of the discovery chatter. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 11:12:16 AM
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Looks like a lot of you have got your knickers in a bunch over the suggestion of an airdrop. Just because it has been put up for a vote, does not mean it will be implemented. I'm pretty sure Evan will not go through with it based on the comments coming through. The only people who seem to be in favour have come out of the woodwork to support the idea. I
Yeah, it really says something about community went people panic sell over an poll. Hey, cheap coins for those of us that don't have weak hands. If anyone was thinking they want to run a masternode, it's a decent opportunity to grab 1000DRK. I'll be releasing the code tomorrow to launch your masternode and we'll hard fork in the next 4 weeks to begin payments. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 10:37:17 AM
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High volume of dumping on Cryptsy just now. I'll bet all my DRK that it was the mere mention of the word airdrop. Jesus, I can't believe this has even come up.
That's exactly it. That's also the reason I went into the safe and pulled my paperwallets and have them sent to the exchanges. The second this is greenlighted for a go on the airdrop, I am dumping 5 figures worth. I'm really hoping Evan comes to his senses about this. Lol, investor confidence used to be an abstract phrase to me. But right now I can feel my own seeping out. Evan needs to comment ASAP. Yes, please quash this airdrop idea. Will only cause pain. The big early holders have probably dumped most of their coins anyway. Keep up the good work on Darksend instead! +1 +1 stop Airdrop DRK Ok, sorry, bad idea . The Airdrop is off and I'll delete the voting thread |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: DARKCOIN BIG SCAM?? let's take a closer look
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on: April 07, 2014, 05:00:32 AM
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The way I looked at it a larger block size at the beginning is the incentive for people to get it at the start. If the block reward we low at the beginning its would be harder to get people to start mining. Miners need a reason to stop mining what ever they were currently mining and move to darkcoin.
Am I wrong?
Don't insult the intelligence of people on this board with this rubbish. We want to attract miners lol.... start by providing a windows QT ...you want minerslol but you don't want them to be able to mine??? It was a scam plain and simple. How can anyone argue with this - there is no justification for cutting windows users out from this super instamine period. That windows users were cut off from.... please understand the magnitude of this Instamine it is MASSIVE> 1. The block reward was 500 every couple seconds at launch! Not 20 or 50 coins every 2.5 minutes as listed. There was also no windows wallet so only linux users could mine. This allowed about 1.7-2 million Darkcoins to be instamined in the first 24hours. Representing about 50% OF ALL DARKCOINS CURRENTLY IN EXISTENCE!!! All mined in the first 24hours by just a few wallets. Then the rules were changed increasing the block time to 2.5 minutes and eliminating the 500 block reward, (but only after the instaminers had claimed 2 million or so coins first.) 2. Today many of those day 1 instamined coins have already been sold and right now approx 24% of all Darkcoins are held in just 10 wallets. This could be 10 people or it could be simply Evan with 10 different wallets. 3. My opinion is that it is unfair and unfortunate that this occurred and IMO it represents a very real risk to Darkcoin in that there is an opening for a good dev to make an Identical X11 coin that has all the attributes of Darkcoin, plus a few more features, and have a truly fair and equitable launch. The instamining will continue to be brought up as it currently represents about a 10% premine given the Dev recently reduced the total coins that will ever be in existence to around 22million! Want to fix this once and for all? Vote: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559932.0 |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 04:51:14 AM
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Here's the thing: I accept the fact that the Darkcoin name is not changing, and I stated as such to make people very clear that this has been decided.
All I'm doing is recognising that there is a significant segment of the market that will be wary of the current brand, which we might be able to reach, and brainstorming how we might reach it. If people genuinely believe that us launching a differently branded sister-coin might kill Darkcoin, then the implication that this is exactly what will happen when others inevitably do exactly what I'm suggesting we do. I'm very surprised that people think this is somehow "dangerous" to talk about. Surely it's more dangerous not to talk about it? Or y'know, we could just stick our heads in the sand and hope everything works out.
A sister coin would wipe out Darkcoin, especially if we did it. So it's not a good idea. Other options are: 1.) Renaming the coin. It keeps coming up over and over, maybe we should really consider it. Everyone start coming up with names and I'll make a voting page to gauge if our user base even wants this. 2.) The first 24 hours of the coins existence keep causing us problems, an "airdrop" could be a solution to this. We could airdrop all holders (uniquely verified) with a equal portion of coin. This coin would come from a block in the future that paid 2.4million+ coins to a specific address that I hold. We could use some kind of verification system like mastercoin ( http://mastercoin-faucet.com/github-intro) The airdrop would be a month or so into the future, so it would give users time to buy coins and become holders creating some demand. Also, we'd have a much larger market cap and the argument about the first 24 hours would become invalid. As always, we listen to the community. If enough people complain, we'll do something... 2- really nice idea, I was also thinking that this first day should cause a lot of reticense to new investments.. Let's vote on the airdrop, I'm interested to see what people think: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559932.0 |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Darkcoin airdrop (cancelled)
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on: April 07, 2014, 04:49:41 AM
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The first 24 hours of the coins existence keep causing us problems, an "airdrop" could be a solution to this. We could airdrop all holders (uniquely verified) with a equal portion of coin. This coin would come from a block in the future that paid 2 million+ coins to a specific address that I hold. We could use some kind of verification system like mastercoin (http://mastercoin-faucet.com/github-intro)
The airdrop would be a month or so into the future, so it would give users time to buy coins and become holders creating some demand. Also, we'd have a much larger market cap and the argument about the first 24 hours would become invalid.
How would you get a part of the airdrop?
- You must own 100DRK ( if you're new to Darkcoin but want to be part of the drop, you would need to purchase 100DRK ).
One of the following:
- Github: To redeem this reward, you need either at least three public repositories and your account must be older than August 1, 2013
- Reddit: To redeem this reward, you need a Reddit account with more than 100 karma.
- Bitcointalk: To redeem this reward you need an activity score above 10 as well as at least 10 posts
Any of these accounts would need to be created before April 1, 2014.
Vote! Sorry, this was a terrible idea. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 04:11:38 AM
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Here's the thing: I accept the fact that the Darkcoin name is not changing, and I stated as such to make people very clear that this has been decided.
All I'm doing is recognising that there is a significant segment of the market that will be wary of the current brand, which we might be able to reach, and brainstorming how we might reach it. If people genuinely believe that us launching a differently branded sister-coin might kill Darkcoin, then the implication that this is exactly what will happen when others inevitably do exactly what I'm suggesting we do. I'm very surprised that people think this is somehow "dangerous" to talk about. Surely it's more dangerous not to talk about it? Or y'know, we could just stick our heads in the sand and hope everything works out.
A sister coin would wipe out Darkcoin, especially if we did it. So it's not a good idea. Other options are: 1.) Renaming the coin. It keeps coming up over and over, maybe we should really consider it. Everyone start coming up with names and I'll make a voting page to gauge if our user base even wants this. 2.) The first 24 hours of the coins existence keep causing us problems, an "airdrop" could be a solution to this. We could airdrop all holders (uniquely verified) with a equal portion of coin. This coin would come from a block in the future that paid 2.4million+ coins to a specific address that I hold. We could use some kind of verification system like mastercoin ( http://mastercoin-faucet.com/github-intro) The airdrop would be a month or so into the future, so it would give users time to buy coins and become holders creating some demand. Also, we'd have a much larger market cap and the argument about the first 24 hours would become invalid. As always, we listen to the community. If enough people complain, we'll do something... Given that there are a lot of people here invested in Darkcoin & a lot riding on the outcome of our branding & marketing efforts, what about putting these questions to a professional branding & marketing consultant? I don't know if a poll of the userbase will give us an adequate answer to this one. I think we're all varying levels of amateur here when it comes to this stuff -- I'd be far more comfortable trusting an expert than an opinion poll. Thoughts? I would like to see a vote first to see how many people like the name: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559912.0 However, I like your idea of doing this in a completely professional way. We would be the first coin with a marketing company backing us, that's neat. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 03:39:10 AM
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Here's the thing: I accept the fact that the Darkcoin name is not changing, and I stated as such to make people very clear that this has been decided.
All I'm doing is recognising that there is a significant segment of the market that will be wary of the current brand, which we might be able to reach, and brainstorming how we might reach it. If people genuinely believe that us launching a differently branded sister-coin might kill Darkcoin, then the implication that this is exactly what will happen when others inevitably do exactly what I'm suggesting we do. I'm very surprised that people think this is somehow "dangerous" to talk about. Surely it's more dangerous not to talk about it? Or y'know, we could just stick our heads in the sand and hope everything works out.
A sister coin would wipe out Darkcoin, especially if we did it. So it's not a good idea. Other options are: 1.) Renaming the coin. It keeps coming up over and over, maybe we should really consider it. Everyone start coming up with names and I'll make a voting page to gauge if our user base even wants this. 2.) The first 24 hours of the coins existence keep causing us problems, an "airdrop" could be a solution to this. We could airdrop all holders (uniquely verified) with a equal portion of coin. This coin would come from a block in the future that paid 2.4million+ coins to a specific address that I hold. We could use some kind of verification system like mastercoin ( http://mastercoin-faucet.com/github-intro) The airdrop would be a month or so into the future, so it would give users time to buy coins and become holders creating some demand. Also, we'd have a much larger market cap and the argument about the first 24 hours would become invalid. As always, we listen to the community. If enough people complain, we'll do something... |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 03:22:53 AM
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Firstly, Darksend should be rebranded to "DarkPay"
Secondly, when the new logo is launched, it should totally replace the logo that has been pasted ontop of the litecoin wallet logo, looks unprofessional.
Thirdly, darksend, or whatever it may be rebranded as, should be implemented ASAP.
I'm not opposed to that, maybe we should vote on it? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=559879.0 |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 07, 2014, 03:20:29 AM
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Why not just re-brand Darkcoin?
I can't believe there are still branding discussions going in relating to the "success" of the coin. This coin has (had?) a huge early-to-market advantage when it comes to anonymous transactions. With Zerocoin/Cash looming in the horizon, you guys really need to take a step back and look at the actual challenges to DRK, not these nonsensical naming/logo issues everyone seems fixated on. 1. DRK has to work. It's still in beta, so this is all in the developer's hands. A better understood roadmap to milestones and possible delivery dates would help. 2. Needs to be "certified" on some level by a credible "white-hat" of some sort. If some exploit or vulnerability is exposed post launch, the coin is doomed. Again, this should be already lined up and possibly be working with Evan on third-party testing. 3. Evan needs to be put in front and center at events, conventions, seminars, whatever. talking. Why? Look at Zerocoin as the competitor. Google it. Things like Forbes come up, constant mentions of Johns Hopkins University... other incredible terms like Cryptography professor, etc. This is what you are competing against. Any budget you have for "marketing" should mostly be spent on points #2 and #3. Everything else is useless. 3.) I completely agree and I have plans for doing this with most of my time after DarkSend is completed. I'll detail this more tomorrow. |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: These new EFFICIENT x11 algos everyone is talking about ?? BULLSHIT or real?
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on: April 05, 2014, 07:19:00 PM
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For me it's a personal obligation to fight people like you,
who try to dumb down the general public with disinformation and cheap propaganda phrases.
You are at a disadvantage, because the average poster here is already quite informed and has a good perception of being Mickey Moused by agents like you.
Get lost.
This is absolutely not true. Most of the people posting here are without any tecnical or economical insight. They are attracted by fancy words and follows the herd bleating what they have read (but not understood) around the forum. Spending their money on obvious scams like earthcoin and darkcoin, coins in general that do extremly well at promoting and branding. What does Earthcoin matter here now, please enlighten me. Just a fuck of a crap coin. Darkcoin is the bleeding edge of crypto currencies though. Tell me what you mean with your statement. I mention earthcoin because everyone can see that earthcoin are a scam now, and the same will be true for darkcoin in a few months. Erthcoin is similar to darkcoin, not technically, but from a community perspective. Both coins rallied the sheeps with a grand plan and fancy words. Darkcoin claimes to be the first anonymous coin. That is not true and it will not happen. Darkcoin promote itself as a zero premined coin. That is true, but it is designed to be extremly instamined and if you look at the block explorer you will see that the instamine is around 14% of the total coins. More then 75% of the exicting coins is instamined by devs/early adopters. There have also been alot of posts about the x11 and "cool cards" that adds to the hype. Darksend, x11, dgw, zero premine, everything the community preach and believe to be facts are actually not as good as they seem or completely true. Hi, I'm the developer of Darkcoin. You can go download the beta client right now and send decentralized anonymous transactions. So yeah, it's the first anonymous coin. If everyone used beta, the whole blockchain would be anonymous. X11 does indeed run 30 degrees colder than scrypt, so I'm not sure what you're complaining about there. DGW reacts faster and more effectively to whales joining because I used exponential moving averages which are just better for this type of thing, again not sure what you're talking about. See DGW in action here: http://drk.poolhash.org/graph.htmlI also fixed the timewarp exploit, so it's the only safe algorithm currently (for difficulty adjustment every block). The next big thing in Darkcoin land are MasterNodes, you'll hear about people running a specific type of client and making tons of money in exchange for anonymizing transactions of the network (again, the anonymous transactions exist...) |
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Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DRK] DarkCoin | First Anonymous Coin | First X11 | First DGW | ASIC Resistant
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on: April 05, 2014, 04:51:12 PM
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LOL, I'll go for LimLims' eye too  I have a problem. I just sent 5 darksend payments and none of them seem to be going through. The last time I did this, i gave up on it and got charged 0.1 drk for each misbehaving send when I finally closed my computer. Several blocks have gone through since I started and yet, my darksends are still stuck at state 2. I'm wondering if they will ever go through? Is there something wrong? I am using the latest (as in I just downloaded it fresh this evening in case it was updated) beta. I really don't want to lose half a dark again, so I'll leave my computer on all night but I'm reporting this in case there is a problem that someone might look into?? Thanks  Been many hours now, and my darksends still haven't gone through. Yet I know from last time, I'll be charged if I lose connection. What should I do? Hmm -- I wonder if the server that pushes DS transactions through is up & running? I believe Evan did this for the DS testing, but not sure if it's up 24/7. It's down at the moment, I'm testing the code for masternodes on mainnet |
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