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501  Local / Market / Re: Vand Bitmain Antminer Z9 Mini nou on: September 27, 2018, 07:28:23 PM
Un intelept din antichitate spunea asa:

Esti papagal! La cardeala ta nu pune nimeni botu'.
502  Economy / Economics / Re: You cannot eat your cake and have it on: September 27, 2018, 03:11:14 PM
Well, in the bull market, I suggest everyone around me to maximize their investment by borrowing or by taking loan from bank. But it is not a good time to invest in crypto currency now. If you invest now with borrowed money, you will lose more than money. The time will come.

I guess ''buy high, sell low'' is your financial advice then.
503  Economy / Scam Accusations / Romanian local boards - Google translate on: September 27, 2018, 09:39:13 AM
First guy:

pocketcoiner - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1951625

The thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4578543.msg41294129#msg41294129

Huge inconsistency in diacritics, google translates with a mixtures of word with and without diacritics.
Just an example of the same word translated differenty.... and the whole thread is just like that.



Second:

xcajun21 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=913898

The thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3347830.0

Same inconsistency, i marked with black the words that have diacritics and with red the ones that should have, but don't.
Impossible to write like that from the keyboard.
The whole thread is filled like that....

504  Other / Meta / Re: Shouldn't bounty managers clean up spam posts in their thread ? on: September 27, 2018, 08:49:56 AM
if you study economy, you will understand that the market always finds a way to regulate itself.

But not always for the general good - look at banking for example. If banking hadn't been self-regulating, then Bitcoin would never have been created.

I was refering at a free market, given the context of the discussion.
505  Other / Meta / Re: Shouldn't bounty managers clean up spam posts in their thread ? on: September 27, 2018, 08:10:28 AM

Well I guess this will never happen as theymos is following "the less rules the better" philosophy.


I am very active in that section and i can tell you that things are slowly changing, nothing happens over night. There are bounty managers who already moved the reporting phase on their own platform.

Maybe there is a need of more competent bounty managers. Anyway, things have progressed.
Last year managers like Jamalaezaz Cancer accepted users in various bounty campaigns only if we could keep a percentage of their reward at the end. Now, there is no such behaviour among managers...as far as i know.

Adding too many rules can get confusing and, like in every ecosistem, the worst thing you can do is to attack it's economy.
Small and well thought steps along with competition will eventually eliminate bad behaviour.

There has to be as less rules as possible, because if you study economy, you will understand that the market always finds a way to regulate itself.
506  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Activitate si Merit pe forumul Romanesc. Solutii? on: September 27, 2018, 07:05:11 AM

Ok, inteleg ce zici dar nu cred ca un DT iti va copia ratingul tau si te va "crede pe cuvant" eu cel putin nu as face niciodata asa ceva.

Pai, ti-am spus ca verifica referinta. Rating-urile utilizatorilor care au o reputatie buna cantaresc destul de mult.


Vrei sa spui ca folosesti sistemul de trust pt a raporta pe cineva care a tradus informatie in romana? Crezi ca pt asta a fost facut sistemul?

L-am folosit pentru a raporta traducatorii care abuzeaza sistemul (triseaza), ICO-urile care sunt scam, manageri de campanie care nu au platit participantii, cei care fac shitposting, cei care vand conturi si asa mai departe. Deci il folosesc pentru activitati suspicioase.
Acum este cu dus si intors, trebuie sa fii pregatit sa primesti si trust negativ de la acest tip de persoane, deoarece multi o fac din razbunare.
507  Other / Meta / Re: [List] of Campaign Managers accepting shitposters. Report here > on: September 26, 2018, 09:49:02 PM
If you wanna manage a campaign you should follow some guidelines (rules - but we don't like this word as we don't want to enforce any restrictions but somehow we have to put the things in order) even if you are a newbie/copper member.
Maybe it's time someone to make one list and have it pinned in the bounty sections.
Something like >

1. Every bounty manager should provide information rearing the holder of the funds (escrow) for the campaign, and also provide a signed message from the address with the bouny reward capital.
2. To participate in signature campaign, a certain amount of earned merit should be required.
3. All the reports should be made off the forum or in a single post, edited for all the week updates.  
4. Low quality posts should not be counted (eligible for payment).
5. Multiple low quality posts should result in user disqualification from the campaign and receiving no payment for the whole period of the campaign.

I'm sure people with more experience can come up with more of guidelines. Those a just the ones that came to my mind now.

Bounty managers are offering digital marketing services. While i agree there should be some sort of guidelines, this certainly crosses a line.

1. Some companies mint the tokens after the token sale, so the escrow depends on the case, this impossible to implement.
2. Merit requirements already exist, no need to complicate things even more.
3. None of anybody's business how a bounty manager organizes his campaign. Some prefer to count manually, some have their own platforms
4. Quality is subjective and should be left in the hands of the bounty manager.
5. Same as 4

A bounty manager's job si to deliver his service to his client and that's it. Unless they are endorsing bad behaviour i think they should be left alone to do their job.

508  Local / Anunturi Monede Alternative / Re: [ANN][ITO] WPP ENERGY - JETON PENTRU ENERGIE ECOLOGICA CU MILIARDE IN PROIECTE on: September 26, 2018, 01:56:30 PM
CUMPARA & VINDE PE PLATFORMA DE ENERGIE ECOLOGICA GLOBALA
Ca metoda de plata pentru toate tranzactiile efectuare prin platforma digitala de energie ecologica, o oferta revolutionare pe blockchain de la WPP ENERGY se pregateste sa perturbe pietele facilitand trading electronic de rezerva de energie in toata lumea la preturi angro de la furnizori de energie ecologica pentru cumparatori din toata lumea. Folosirea JETONULUI WPP ca metoda de plata, ajutat de tehnologia blockchain, va oferi mediul preferat pentru rumarirea unui numar mare de tranactii la nivel global si va evita orice incercare de perturbare sau blocare a ceea ce va fi metode de tranzactionare revolutionare in industria energiei ecologice.
509  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Activitate si Merit pe forumul Romanesc. Solutii? on: September 26, 2018, 12:20:57 PM
Nu prea are nici o relevanta daca este util sau nu. Cam aste este ideea sistemului, sa fie folosit de catre comunitate pentru a expune trisorii, scammerii.

Plus, iti garantez ca marea majoritate dintre utilizatorii forumului nu au habar cine sunt membrii DT si se ghideaza dupa ratingurile oferite de comunitate in general. Mai mult, mi s-a intamplat ca sa dau un trust negativ, un membru DT sa il vada iar apoi sa dea si el unul pe baza referintei. Deci nu este in nici un caz inutil si nu trebuie sa va descurajati sa il folositi doar pentru faptul ca ratingul nu este vizibil.
510  Economy / Reputation / Re: Negative trust for an opinion? on: September 26, 2018, 06:36:14 AM

It looks like the OP took your diagnosis seriously and has gone full retard:


How does this come as a surprise to you? How would you expect someone to behave when he is trapped into a corner and bullied?
Y'all behaved like a 12 year old bully, obviously you don't have credibility no matter what you say.
People who behave like that are usually invisible, their opinion is not respected (IRL or internet in this case) and they tend to communicate by ridiculing and putting the other person down. If this is the image you want for yourself then go right ahead, but you my want to take a look inside at those unfulfilled emotions that emerge from a rough childhood. If you don't, you will, sadly, never grow up and you will be just another one of those people with a little child stuck in grown man body.

On the side note, it is pretty shamefull you keep throwing merits back and forth on who insults the guy better, yet you gang up like Kim Jong Un's army on newbies for every merit they get.
Maybe the reason why there are so many problems in this forum (that everyone knows) is that there are too many rotten tomatoes in the leadership department.

At this point you are just like that guy...you are looking at a picture with the round earth and saying it's flat.
What is obvious is obvious and is clearly you don't have sufficient intelectual capacity to understand that or you just don't have the will to do it.

I'll just crawl back from where i came from, this is literally way beneath me.
Tszunami out!
511  Local / Romānă (Romanian) / Re: Activitate si Merit pe forumul Romanesc. Solutii? on: September 25, 2018, 07:51:46 PM
Trimite-mi un PM cu traducatorii care folosesc google translate te rog.

Nu am tinut o evidenta, iti dai seama, dar ti-am trimis ce am gasit asa, intr-o verificare de 10 minute.
A, si mai am si unul la care i-am dat in februarie negative feedback, il gasesti la mine la feedback-uri.

Mersi frumos, le-am dat deja negativ.
Este timpul sa facem ceva sa crestem si local boards in romana. Nu vrem sa ajungem sa fim cunoscuti drept hoti si pe aici...
512  Other / Meta / Re: Getting merited on post made on local board on: September 25, 2018, 07:26:27 PM
There is a possibility for a user to become a merit source in local boards if he is worthy. Problem solved.
513  Economy / Reputation / Re: Negative trust for an opinion? on: September 25, 2018, 06:16:29 PM
Really pathetic how the staff and DT members gang up so violently and aggresive on the community for daring to defend someone who they consider a victim of the trust system.
Out of curiosity: Who exactly are you and why are you particularly interested in this particular reputation issue? Outlier names tend to catch my old eye, although I'm not up to date with all the newly active individuals here.

Well, a user recieved a negative trust for being unscientific, while the reason for recieving the negative trust is also unscientific (having a mental issue for not knowing the shape of the earth).

And then tying all of that with some poor reasoning about because he believes what he believes makes him untrustworhty of repaing a loan and some nonsense like that.
The fact that 78% of americans believe in angels and in the same time being able to take loans from banks should say a lot.

And on top of that this kindergarden aggresive behaviour from people who sould be the leaders of the community against anyone who tries to dispute a controversial reputation issue.

What is so suspicious about someone having a different opinion? you sound like i have some hidden interest in this matter.
Not all people are like o_e_l_e_o, who's entire posting history is just a big string of ass sucking to his masters.

I give credit where it's due and call bullshit and hypocrisy when i find it ...this is who i am.

And i am not an SJW or snowflake or whatever names dumb americans are up this days...

514  Other / Meta / Re: What's more important to judge whether or not I should be trusted? on: September 25, 2018, 05:20:48 PM
$1,000,000 isn't even a lot of money.  Maybe you can buy a small house in Los Angeles.

Or Nigeria...

On Topic: I think you should not accept accounts as collateral anymore, there is clearly an issue with account selling.
515  Economy / Reputation / Re: Negative trust for an opinion? on: September 25, 2018, 04:48:49 PM
It doesn't matter it's about flat-earth, it starts a bad precedent.

Bullshit. The subject matters and the user's blatant lying matters too. Your attempt to make this into some free speech issue is pathetic. This is a Bitcoin forum, not a "come here to lie without consequences" forum. I'm sure there are places for flat-earthers to discuss their pancakes without repercussions. On this forum however trust matters and it just so happens that a liar got called out as untrustworthy.

Here are some other things you want to avoid "discussing" here:

"$10,000 reward for a Super Hero Legendary Merit Source account and how it relates to Bitcoin"
"$10,000 reward for a plagiarism bot and how it relates to Bitcoin"
"$10,000 reward for running a ponzi ICO and how it relates to Bitcoin"
"$10,000 reward for killing Vod and hiding the body and how it relates to Bitcoin"

I'm sure there is an endless list of idiotic shit that one can frame as a "reward" and then claim to have an "opinion" justifying it. Doesn't mean everybody has to consider such behavior trustworthy.

Adorable! Raging children are using the internet.

You should start behaving more like an adult than a North Korean general.

Literally every comment you make is designed to feed your ego, this type of bully behaviour is disgusting. Learn how to express yourself if you want someone to take you serious.

Really pathetic how the staff and DT members gang up so violently and aggresive on the community for daring to defend someone who they consider a victim of the trust system.
516  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Imperium ICO scam on: September 25, 2018, 04:17:59 PM
They have many suspicious points from the beginning of the project. Some threads have discussed this project:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2087087.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5027597.0

Apparently they keep trying because they have not yet recieved a red trust.
517  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Imperium ICO scam on: September 25, 2018, 03:46:18 PM
I just read the ''whitepaper''.
They are focusing more on the token than the actual business model.
Obv scam attempt.
518  Economy / Scam Accusations / Imperium ICO scam on: September 25, 2018, 03:16:19 PM
Offering 4.5 mil $$$ for bounty program, the don't have a visible team (except some names written in a medium blog). I have searched them and could not find them anywhere.

https://medium.com/@ImperiumIO/imperium-platform-founders-team-886b3438db23

Also, they have no whitepaper and got rated 1 on ICOBench.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5024641.0



519  Economy / Scam Accusations / Fraud attempt ICO on: September 25, 2018, 03:10:43 PM
Little Indonezian children are trying to make an ICO.

The CEO identifies himself as a ''bounty hunter''
Team composed of what looks like underage guys.
Scammy website, scammy whitepaper, poor ideea. I am not saying it is a scam...but it's a scam.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5035091.0
520  Economy / Reputation / Re: Negative trust for an opinion? on: September 25, 2018, 02:09:59 PM
Believing the earth is flat means you have mental issues.
How does this idea feel to you? Do you find it resonable or insane?

I agree with Vod's assessment of his intellect - flat Earth can be disproven by an elementary school level understanding of science.

Would I want to enter in to a trade/deal/loan/similar with him, knowing this information? Absolutely not, for the reasons I've stated previously in one of his other spam threads here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036856.msg46128828#msg46128828

Would I give him a negative trust for it? Probably not, but I'm not Vod, and he's free to leave trust to whomever he wishes.

The issue here is not if he is free to leave trust or not, but if it is justified.

He is reasoning his trust by claiming that OP cannot be trusted because he is against the laws of science, while using a false,against the laws of science, premise.

Last time i checked, ignorance is not in any way corelated to mental issues (i am open to change my mind if anyone finds a medical report that states that).

I am just going to stop here, there is a clear bias with some users here, which IMO questions their competence or their ability to reason.

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