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61  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 14, 2018, 04:13:33 PM

So what that means? Angry

It means that we will get formally introduced to the team of people managing, developing and working for the Zero currency.
62  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 14, 2018, 03:50:58 PM
Hi all,
Currently I am mining with 65 sols but as someone pointed out, is WTM calculator doing it good? If not do you know guys a correct one to better estimates profits?
Thanks!


Whattomine has been inaccurate for a very long time. A month ago, it was reporting double earnings than the real ones. Now it reports closer to reality, but it is still inaccurate.
Estimating earnings is not that simple and it depends on the time period the average is calculated. If this period is for example one day, the estimations' validity depends on the global hashrate, the pool hashrate, the pool luck, the difficulty and the price of the coin in $. As you may guess, if these numbers fluctuate significantly, then the estimations are quite inaccurate.

For example, you may see that the pool estimates that you will earn 5 coins in 24h. If the difficulty and the increases during these 24h, you will get less coins than expected. If the price in dollars drops as well, then you will get even less dollars!
 
63  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 14, 2018, 09:26:40 AM

what algorithm should be used? the ones listed only say 4/8gb cards? will the 8gb card miner work?

Equihash algo but with harder mining settings than zec. No the win miner won't work. 6GB Nvidia cards are only supported in Linux.
64  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 10:01:33 PM
Yes, what you say is a fair consequence.

The dishonest pool has to be removed from the list of pools in the first page of this thread and from the official website as well.

The problem is though Optiminer comes pre-configured with this pool, making users believe this way that this is their best option.
Some miners even think that this is their only option!!! (yes, some people don't know that there other pools as well!!)

every project related to the currency should be available on github

If you refer to optiminer, it is a closed source software and therefore controlled by its developer.
This is why I didn't make a downloadable premodded nvidia version after all, trying to respect the developer.
65  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 08:45:23 PM
Nice to clarify that, I was wondering myself where these 0.05 amounts were coming from. Good work, komodoming!
66  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 08:32:54 PM
Yes, what you say is a fair consequence.

The dishonest pool has to be removed from the list of pools in the first page of this thread and from the official website as well.

The problem is though Optiminer comes pre-configured with this pool, making users believe this way that this is their best option.
Some miners even think that this is their only option!!! (yes, some people don't know that there other pools as well!!)
67  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 08:06:35 PM
There is definitely something wrong now.
https://www.cryptopia.co.nz/CoinInfo/?coin=ZER
0 connections. This sometimes happens.
I have a suspicion that WTM overestimates Day Rewards by ~ 37%

Yes fellas, this is an issue already identified:
WTM overestimates earnings. They are using an incorrect algorithm.
They have been contacted, but I don't know why they haven't fixed it.
In the past, they were even more incorrect. Now they 're closer to the reality, but still incorrect.
68  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 08:00:14 PM
It's very interesting that suprnova hasn't replied to my post regarding the fee issue...

I would also appreciate an official response from the zero team.

A short time ago, some community members reacted against imposing a 1% fee towards Zero maintenance, development and promotion costs.

Well it looks like suprnova has already imposing a fee behind the miners back! And most miners had no idea!

Wouldn't it far better to introduce an official Zero pool collecting this fee, rather than a dishonest private pool depriving from the zero team this significant source of income that would help the coin flourish?

I am not surprised have heard nothing from that guy. I deleted my post (that was reply to yours) last night because intention not to be negative and/or slanderous.

It seems some people's role is to be liars because so many people love to be lied too. Who are the 'so many'? The ones who ignored your post and still mine on Supernova. Why are they still mining on Supernova in full awareness of the imposed tax that is lied about? Not sure why it seems to be human nature to appreciate exploitation. ARGH!

I will shut up now but hopes that people would get a clue from the gigantic picture you have posted and mine on a different pool. You have my thanks, at minimum, for revealing the truth and talking about it. Transparency is very important these days!

PS: on the other side of the coin perhaps it is simply a misunderstanding! maybe the pool charges 0% and the 1% on the balance sheet is the Zero commission ... ?

I really appreciate your response on this thread as well as your personal message.
It is not a commission to zero, as there is no such commission forced yet. It is on the roadmap, planned for the future but not just yet.
You can also verify this by looking up zero community address t1XpvXbN3UoBZf4yEsmz3oQt9UGp2TCEUu3 at the zeroexplorer.
It is easy to see that the last payment received was on January 8th and that this address has received a total of 126 coins so far, an amount far less than the amount that would appear if suprnova was sending the collected fee there.
69  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 11:35:10 AM
It's very interesting that suprnova hasn't replied to my post regarding the fee issue...

I would also appreciate an official response from the zero team.

A short time ago, some community members reacted against imposing a 1% fee towards Zero maintenance, development and promotion costs.

Well it looks like suprnova has already imposing a fee behind the miners back! And most miners had no idea!

Wouldn't it far better to introduce an official Zero pool collecting this fee, rather than a dishonest private pool depriving from the zero team this significant source of income that would help the coin flourish?
70  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 13, 2018, 02:50:51 AM
VERY IMPORTANT REVELATION

For quite some time I have been receiving complaints about miners on suprnova not getting the amount of coins expected.

Well here it is guys.

A pool has to collect fees to maintain server, investments, electricity costs and to make a profit. Any pool asking 0% fee for an elongated time, is scamming you.

SUPRNOVA IS STEALING YOUR HASH

It claims that it has a 0% fee but in reality it has a 1% fee. It also collects 0.01 zer fees for every deposit to your wallet, and since most miners do not change the frequency of withdrawals, these fees SIGNIFICANTLY increase the amount of coins lost.

A pool that gets 80% of the global hashrate by claiming that applies a 0% fee whereas it doesn't, is a MAJOR issue. Transparency should prevail and unfair oligopolies hurt all other pools.

I never like to speak for anything without EVIDENCE.

HERE IS THE PROOF:


71  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 12, 2018, 09:03:15 AM
is anyone selling coins


Only trade in an exchange. Otherwise you may get scammed.
72  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 11, 2018, 02:48:30 PM
Cloudhash.eu created a simplemining.net Image for Zero

For instructions and download links visit our Pool. (RX 400/500 Support)
Nvidia & R9 200/300 will be added tommorow.

http://zer.cloudhash.eu

Have fun

I see Optiminer version "Optiminer/zec 1.7". (Why zec, and not zer, really?)
Is this a version never released before?
Does it support 4GB and 8GB cards in the same rig at optimal speeds?
73  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 11, 2018, 05:46:44 AM

I came across this article that I think the Zero community would like to know about:
http://fairreporters.net/economy/best-undervalued-altcoins-to-buy-on-cryptopia/

It seems Zero was listed among the top 5 undervalued currencies right now, with huge growth potential.

What do you people think? Is this true? Is Zero a good long term investment at today's price?


Very interesting article, indeed.
I agree that zero is a long term investment, as it is still in its infancy.
There will be ups and downs, especially as long there is the monopoly of Cryptopia and as long as thanks to relative low volume big whales are able to manipulate the price.
My personal opinion is that a $10 price for a privacy coin with a 2.3 mil circulating supply and a low inflation, has the potential to reach $100 provided that the right measures are taken.
It looks like privacy will be the centerfold of attention for all altcoins this year, and zero has a hardcoded advantage.

I am not a financial advisor though nor an expert or a tech-guy so please take my words with precaution and do your own proper research, the same way that proper research is needed when investing in anything and especially altcoins.
74  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 11, 2018, 04:45:53 AM

when someone has a fake account?Recently I always heard this thing, what is the specific situation?


It's when you start a new account only to do nasty things, just like when you start a second facebook account to link with Tinder ;-)

75  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 11, 2018, 03:48:52 AM
It's really so obvious when someone has a fake account, just look at their nicks ....

...onetimedealman!!!!
...unimaginable!!!!

etc
76  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 11, 2018, 03:45:43 AM
Haha nice try noob, or should I say ...fudder or maybe ...whale?

You registered in June and since then you have 4 posts.
On December 29th you posted "let's moon PHO" and two days later ..."avoid PHO it's a trap".

There goes down your credibility.

As for the actual accusations:

1. The website mentions which top size exchange, but exchanges don't like to be pre-announced before they approve an application, you should know that.

2. This is a zcash fork with a harder equihash algo, and all advantages because of this are found in the first page of this thread and they are not hard to understand.

3. Innovations cannot be fully explained until they are implemented. It is a privacy coin and there is lots of competition around. The project leader though announced that some details will be released soon.

4. Yes, there are large exchanges and there are the top 5. It's that simple.

5. My educated guess is that block size increase would decrease inflation.

Anyway, if you want answers your attitude doesn't help getting them.
Be a man and don't hide behind a fake account.






OK so what is this project actually doing? Mobile wallet? great...To be listed on on large size exchange? How do they know this? Why can't they tell us which one? Increase block size? why?? A "Highly Experimental" phase??? What the hell is that? What IS wormhole?? Why are they waiting until Q2 to tell us about this amazing wormhole? They need to be more up front and not leave the community in the dark like this. This whole project seems like a massive prayer and frankly, I see no reason to invest. Q3 listed in at least 1 of top 5 exchanges? But wait, I thought they were being listed on a large size exchange in Q1? What is a large exchange if not a top 5 exchange?

The questions are endless and I could keep going but c'mon. There are better places to light your money on fire.


77  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 10, 2018, 02:57:11 PM
Hi all,
my GTX 1070 is mining without issues, but my RX 580 8 gb mines for around 10 hours and stops (both on win10, separate PCs, optiminerzero 1.2),
should I try the mod of page 4 on the AMD platform ?

happy mining to all!

No, the mod is for nvidia cards only.
Try changing pool, some pools are more stable than others.
78  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 10, 2018, 12:21:24 PM

Thus community is you and Demarsec.

Dev fee is a RADICAL change.
You can't just do it like it is a simply update.

We can argue about dev fees generally speaking but not to turn a ZERO devfees coin to a devfees coin without asking the community.
Hope you get my philosophical point.

You have some fundamental misunderstandings and arbitrary assumptions that are incorrect, thus you are confused.
Just because the coin is called Zero, it doesn't mean that everything about it is zero.
There are transaction fees which are close to zero but not zero.
Zero is a privacy coin, and it needs funds to survive and to expand.
An effort has been made to avoid fees, but the donations weren't enough and another way had to be implemented in order to meet the costs associated with the coin's development and promotion.
The fee is imposed on the miners, who already enjoy a very lucrative pay; Mining zero pays almost double compared to mining other coins. Miners are overly excited with the existence of zero, and they shouldn't be troubled with this fee. The fee is planned to be imposed by the pool, therefore it doesn't have any repercussion on the transaction fees.

I am not in Demarsac's team, I am just one of the many community people that reach Demarsac through the official communication channels and propose things / give feedback.
I am the one who gave the opportunity for Nvidia miners to make Optiminer work better in Windows, despite that my mod attracted so many miners that at the very end made myself earn less from mining.
I have also been giving technical advice to people since the community takeover.
I was promoted as an administrator of the telegram group, since the group creator verified that my contribution is positive.
I mention all the above about me to show you that I have earned my place in the community by actively contributing and not by destroying.
I don't agree with some things Demarsac does myself, but his continuing actions so far have saved the coin from a certain death, so I respect him. Therefore, whenever I need to say something, I won't do it in a public way and certainly not the catastrophic way you do.
Now if you want to be part of this community, you have to stop being sarcastic and to give constructive feedback, instead of hurting the coin and opening a second telegram group, that leads nowhere.
Even if you think you have a legitimate point of view, you will not achieve anything acting this way, unless of course you work for the competition, something that many people already suspect.
I am a romantic soul and I 'd like to believe that you are not hired by the competition, but I 'm afraid I will be proven naive...

Now if you don't like the way things work, your point of view is respected but you have no use here and you have to leave this community and let us bring the coin from Zero to Hero.
79  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 10, 2018, 05:39:42 AM
I went to sleep only to wake up and see all this mess, deliberately caused by some people.

So here it goes:
(I posted this on the telegram group as well)


For the ones asking about the 1% fee: I am one (and I guess not the only) that proposed this to Demarsac, some time ago. You see, zero needs to expand and to pay for developing, promotion, maintenance, exchange fees. Do you seriously expect the managing team to pay out of their pockets? Do you know how expensive is to get listed on a 1st level exchange? I am a miner and I have absolutely no problem with this, since zero mining is the most profitable mining. Let's not be greedy. Also, it's a misunderstanding that this has any consequence on transaction fees. It's just a fair commission on mining. As for the ones blaming the team for pre-mining, this is ridiculous. Zero has been available for mining for almost a year now. If you didn't know, it's your fault. The ones who have been mining it for a long time, took a risk, and now they deserve their rewards. I wish I had listened Demarsac early in the summer when he was advising people to mine zero. I didn't trust him and now I regret.

Now as for the delusional moron posting in the ANN about the coin supply, this is something we have pinned and noted multiple times here. NOTHING WAS HIDDEN. Even if the real supply is 2 mil vs the alleged 400k, the difference is not that important, as fudders claim. Look at all coins with less than 2.3 mil coin supply: the cheapest one costs $220!

As for errors, typos, imperfections etc, yes there are there and I have been reporting them myself to the team. But guys, remember that this is a project that was saved from abandonment and that there are limited funds behind it. There is no bank or big whale managing zero, so of course there is the element of amateurism. The raw substance though, the tech behind the coin is an improved zcash, and this should tell you a lot of things.

80  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ZERO - COMMUNITY TAKEOVER on: January 09, 2018, 01:26:21 PM
Are there anybody mining at zer.cloudhash.eu?
No blocks found for last 24 hours and I am not sure what to do.
I understand that global hashrate is approximately 90 KSol/s and pool's is only near 400 Sol/s,
luck is 0.461 days.
Any advice? Thanks.

I get the same problem at miner-entry.com.
I am solo mining there now!!
I have been getting more coins than in the big pools for three days, because of good luck, but I am afraid that this will be really difficult from now on.
Maybe if you join me we have better luck together, but still, I have no illusions that finding a block will be hard from now on unless more people join.
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