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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AsicCoin (ASC) | SHA256 - The coin for ASIC Mining! | No Premine on: September 12, 2013, 06:08:41 PM
The pool is screwed, I don't get any payout for 15mins, while I see there are many blocks found there.
Hi,

mining there myself. It seems to have a very short PPLNS warmup time (I'd guess 5min or below), yet still quite high of a share difficulty, i.e. the difficulty you must reach before there is a payout at all. There seem to be few shares in the chain, so already having one share in the chain leads to relatively high payouts.
In other words, depending on your hash rate, if you would get an average of 10kASC/h, you might end up with 55mins of nothing and then 5 mins in which you make those 10kASC.
Share diff seems to be around 300-450, so only after you have submitted a share like that, will you be "qualified" for payouts. As luck will have it, you may have multiple in a straight row, or none at all for a while.
If you use bfgminer, finding a share looks roughly like this:
 [2013-09-12 20:06:43] Stratum from pool 3 requested work update
 [2013-09-12 20:06:43] Accepted 0023c472 MMQ 5c pool 3 Diff 576/16

A "Requested work update" usually means that _someone_ on the pool found a share. If it's in the same second as one high-diff share found by you, you can be quite confident that you were the one with the qualified share, and can expect payouts within the next 2 blocks found by the pool.

Good luck :-)
Mike270

42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] AsicCoin (ASC) | SHA256 - The coin for ASIC Mining! | No Premine on: September 12, 2013, 03:45:53 PM
you know the whole pretending to be somebody else routine is getting old..
if you feel the need to create a new account just pull shit like this i won't bother that's for sure.

if your actually new to the community and this is your first coin i would be utterly shocked to hell and back.

if i was actually motivated (and i'm not) i could probably figure out who you are and show case some idiocy but why bother
after all you'll make a new account tomorrow and pump a new shit coin.

i'm almost speechless ..this is fucking stupid wow

have fun kissing this guys ass people.. don't swallow too much or you'll have to get your stomach pumped
Dear Spoetnik,

in my opinion it's rather total disrespect for the netiquette that I consider "ban-worthy", but I'm no admin here.
It's not like you were attacked in any manner, so you just come into a threat and for no apparent reason start throwing out obscenities.
If you have a point to make about this coin, make it, and make it factual. If there's a point to your critique, that's a much better way to get it across.
No one has attacked you here, so there is absolutely no reason for this behaviour.

Kind regards
Mike270

43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [BFC] Butterflycoin SHA-256 power for ButterflyLabs miners on: August 30, 2013, 03:53:36 PM
Is anyone going to mine this despite this silly scam attempt piggybacking off the launch?
You do not honestly expect anybody to reply honestly to that question, do you ? ;-)
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [BFC] Butterflycoin SHA-256 power for ButterflyLabs miners on: August 30, 2013, 02:14:19 PM
Maybe the OP of this thread is a scammer i mean yesterday he made a post about how to set difficult in CGminer and today is he releasing a new coin.. Perhaps he took advantage of the fact that there was no BTC thread about this new coin (there is on cryptocointalk) and made this post to scam bitcoin, the downloaded wallet could be any wallet just renamed..
Coin was actually announced earlier on, not sure if he's even the developer behind it.
https://cryptocointalk.com/topic/1092-pre-ann-butterflycoin-bfc-pre-announcement/
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][BOC]BountyCoin - PoW+PoS|SHA256|Many Bounties (TRADE OPEN) on: August 27, 2013, 05:07:17 PM
Is this coin alive? Started the same time as Zetacoin, which is quite successful. Looks like the easiest way to kill the coin is premine  Wink

I think the term premine is used inflationary and it should be differentiated between "premining" for the own wallet, or "premining" for the purpose of paying out bounties.
Also: Are we so communist that we think that the creator of the coin deserves nothing for the effort put into it?
Do we expect people to put effort into a coin and a good diff adjustment algo (I think BOC has one) to do it for pure joy and for free?

Kind regards
Mike
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BETA][EXCHANGE][REALTIME] CoinEX realtime exchange with ZERO FEES for beta on: August 26, 2013, 10:26:42 PM
Erm, is anyone else uncomfortable with someone being doxxed with no evidence or information? That post should be removed imo.
Totally agree.
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN][BOC]BountyCoin - PoW+PoS|SHA256|Many Bounties (POOL IS WORKING!!!) on: August 20, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Great coin, I love how smooth yet responsive the diff adjusts to varying hashpower.
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZET] Zetacoin - SHA256 coin - Pools up - Quick confirmations on: August 18, 2013, 08:03:31 AM
Can you copy paste what you saw here? net looks normal to me, but I haven't been monitoring it every second.

Ok, I must admit having been wrong, having crawled through the block explorer that doesn't offer the nice listings I'm used to (only one block at a time). Phew! ;-)
I took a look at block 58329, which is 10 minutes in the future from its surrounding blocks, and at 58332 a retarget occured from 742->704.
Blocks considered at retarget were 58252 and 58331, which had time stamps 19:28:58 and 20:11:07, so 42:09mins, where 40mins would have meant no retarget and >40mins meaning diff lowering.
So everything fine here.

Sorry for false alarm
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZET] Zetacoin - SHA256 coin - Pools up - Quick confirmations on: August 18, 2013, 04:13:03 AM
Looks like some Terracoining is going on - someone rides the diff down by manipulating his system clock into the future making the client think blocks took extra long, thus lowering diff.
Developers to the rescue!

Nope its actually how the diff works  everyone jumps off at same time without manipulating system clocks. It is actual hashing power it re targets based on last 6 blocks submitted and how much hash powers on the network nothing to do with manipulation.
Well I've been monitoring it live on my miner, and you could see more than 3 blocks per minute and the occasional block 15 minutes in the future and diff going straight down.
I've seen it with terracoin and those future-blocks are a very good indication when combined with a higher-than-aimed-for block generation rate.
Right now he seems to have stopped for the time being.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ZET] Zetacoin - SHA256 coin - Pools up - Quick confirmations on: August 18, 2013, 02:34:08 AM
Looks like some Terracoining is going on - someone rides the diff down by manipulating his system clock into the future making the client think blocks took extra long, thus lowering diff.
Developers to the rescue!
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]New Crypto-Currency BAR!! BitBar consolidating your digital wealth on: August 04, 2013, 12:31:30 AM

Huh? Do I need to mine on my BTB wallet to get POS STAKES or will just opening the wallet with mature coins in it generate the proper credits to the network and create my POS stakes?Huh

Just open the wallet and unlock it (using "walletpassphrase" command in command line windows from BitBar).
I guess if you were mining your POS wouldn't really make you happy as it gets rounded to zero.
In my case I consolidated funds by moving money from multiple smaller transactions (i.e. mining) to myself in one transaction to have a larger POS.
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TERRACOIN ATTACK OVER 1.2TH ATTACK CONFIRMD on: July 28, 2013, 04:22:14 PM
Coinpolice shows TRC being on block 175,433 and 5k diff, does this mean they are out of date and on the old client?
Yep
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TERRACOIN ATTACK OVER 1.2TH ATTACK CONFIRMD on: July 28, 2013, 04:01:15 PM
The large TRC-friendly ASIC just landed block 175039 for us. Hoping he stays around to kill a few more until diff drops. Wink
That's nice but I guess that's gonna happen frequently from now on and afaik this was why they introduced the diff halving (that was now abused) in the first place... what's gonna save us when for example at one exchange prices rice dramatically, hash power increases accordingly, then prices drop & miners leave and we are stuck who-knows-where?
Does anybody know where such kind of discussions by the devs can be followed? On terracointalk.org there seems to be not much going on :-(

Looking at the github comments on the patches, I believe the difficulty halving was before the change to an EMA based difficulty algorithm. When that went into place, the halving should have been removed but wasn't, and the attacker found a way to exploit it. Once we're back to "normal" I'm not sure we need the halving.

Remember before attack the network had a lot of hash power on it, sometimes 500Gh or more, and difficulty worked fine to adjust up and down as people changed coins. None of that was using the halving code.
No, they were using the halving code all along, I was monitoring it and you can see it by the fluctuations in the timestamps (+/- 20 mins).
Whenever a block was >5mins old, they'd make their client think it's actually 15 mins in the future ( so the client thinks the block is >20 mins old) to trigger the diff halving). It's difficult to see in the block explorers since they don't have the timestamp when they actually received the blocks, but when you see something like

block 1      10:10h       Diff 10000
block 2      10:30h       Diff 5000
block 3      10:11h       Diff 6000

then you can be pretty sure that the timewarp magic was used for block 2 whereas blocks 1+3 might be from regular miners.

Another scenario was when they found a block that was not yet 5 mins old (so they couldn't use their magic yet) they dated it 5 mins into the past, that way being able to mine the next block at half diff right from the beginning.

Something along

block 1    10:10h     Diff 10000
block 2    10:05h     Diff 12000
block 3    10:25h     Diff 5000
block 4    10:11h     Diff 6000

But they did it way better than the attacker from the last few days because they didn't take a 100% of the cake.
And also everybody else was profitting of the generally-low-difficulty as well, whereas last days' attacker was so fast almost everybody else was filling the orphanages.
But there were quite a few situations where we probably had been stuck for quite a while hadn't someone used the halve-diff trick for getting diff back down sooner than otherwise.

Kind regards
Mike
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: TERRACOIN ATTACK OVER 1.2TH ATTACK CONFIRMD on: July 28, 2013, 03:45:32 PM
The large TRC-friendly ASIC just landed block 175039 for us. Hoping he stays around to kill a few more until diff drops. Wink
That's nice but I guess that's gonna happen frequently from now on and afaik this was why they introduced the diff halving (that was now abused) in the first place... what's gonna save us when for example at one exchange prices rice dramatically, hash power increases accordingly, then prices drop & miners leave and we are stuck who-knows-where?
Does anybody know where such kind of discussions by the devs can be followed? On terracointalk.org there seems to be not much going on :-(
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 11, 2013, 11:48:03 PM
Is this an orphaned block?

Status: 2/offline, has not been successfully broadcast yet
Date: 7/11/2013 12:58
Source: Generated
Credit: 16.33 XPM (matures in 3198 more blocks)
Net amount: 0.00 XPM

You are being over-protective - your children need fresh air and freedom!
Well I would define an orphan as a block that made it onto the network, but looks like it didn't even make it onto the network.
Is your client connected? Are you perhaps on your on offline fork?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] BFGMiner Branch.. on github on: July 11, 2013, 10:26:26 PM
are there some problems reporting correct difficulty? For me bfgminer reports:

Quote
Connected to localhost diff 0 without LP as user primecoinrpc
Block: ...d85d7682505eee91  Diff:0 (  inf?h/s)  Started: [00:24:02]

So it's difficulty zero.

I like the infinitely unknown network hash rate :-)
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] BFGMiner Branch.. on github on: July 11, 2013, 10:25:43 PM
Heh... mine seems to be trying to use the gpu for this, once I turn off generation in QT my CPU utilization drops to 0. Also my GPU mining performance for another altcoin is degraded.
I guess you should do --disable-opencl and do a build only for cpu mining...
Testing my own optimizations right now, so there won't be further findings from me for a while :-)
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [XPM] BFGMiner Branch.. on github on: July 11, 2013, 10:04:02 PM

This got me past the crash on launch anyways. Not sure if I was missing the "=" after --algo or what.

Now I can see "new blocks" arriving, although they don't line up with when I see new blocks in QT debug terminal. Difficulty is being reported as 0, could be an unimplemented piece of the code or could be an actual problem.



Doubtful that it's actually functional. Smiley

You need to pass it a --scan-time 1, that way it will register new blocks faster (necessary for those short intervals we have)
It seems to pass whatever it finds, though, no proof-of-work check implemented yet as it seems.
So far all my block candidates it found on testnet were rejected(by primecoind). No block candidates on production yet.
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 11:09:51 PM
Why is it that we finally get an updated binary and then we get even more changes immediately after ? Sad

Just happened to be that way....
neverhappy...
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XPM] [ANN] Primecoin Release - First Scientific Computing Cryptocurrency on: July 10, 2013, 11:03:48 PM
WAIT!
There just was an update to the repository!
He also did some more updates, like making some mining printf's configurable, it seems.
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