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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Welcome to PHANTOM - Decentralized blockchain ẔINCS on: December 09, 2018, 06:00:40 AM
Centra's chapter is closed already and what Phantom has with them now ? If I remember well Centra was delivering and they were accused of using name of some big company as partner, am I right ? Phantom is not ICO and there will not be any type of fund raising so what has this with these allegations now ? I would rather wait than to believe in anything what I read here.

The 'it's not an ICO so it's not a scam' argument is bullshit, the airdrop sent tokens to all centra holders, right? Well who do you think has the most CTR tokens left in their wallet? Centra team itself of course. SO they're basically giving themselves 'free money', and as they will own the majority of the coins, they'll be able to manipulate the price of it and use it as their personal cash cow. Ofc now that's not going to happen, thankfully.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Welcome to PHANTOM - Decentralized blockchain ẔINCS on: December 05, 2018, 09:14:08 AM


- Sohrab (or Sam) Sharma is the co-founder of Centra

- Read paragraph V: Argument on page 19, and all will become clear.

- If even the tiniest bit of Centra ICO funds (which Sharma apparently lied about in court) were used for the development of Phantom, it can be shut down immediately.


3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Welcome to PHANTOM - Decentralized blockchain ẔINCS on: December 05, 2018, 08:23:17 AM
https://www.docketbird.com/court-documents/USA-vs-Shepard/MEMO-ENDORSEMENT-as-to-Sohrab-Sharma-1-terminating-76-LETTER-MOTION-addressed-to-Judge-Lorna-G-Schofield-from-Gennaro-Cariglio-Jr-dated-October-26-2018-re-Modification-of-Bond-terminating-77-LETTER-MOTION-addressed-to-Judge-Lorna-G-Schofield-from-Neg/nysd-1:2018-cr-00340-00078

Records show that phantom accounts are courtesy of Sharma, which is a violation of his bail terms.
They traced back the IP of the Medium and Twitter accounts, read the full document for disclosure.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]HashCard: Revolutionising HOW You Use Credit & Debit Cards on: May 23, 2018, 07:59:22 AM
funny how they used the scam accusation to make a plausible exit Cheesy

https://hashcard.io/
Quote


ICO is SUSPENDED! Fudsters and trolls made it happen. First, they spammed bancor and cancelled the listing. People who got the cards revealed the bank name/bin and the bank got about 500 requests in 2 days from the same group of angry fudsters. The bank paused all the cards and stated we should stop accepting new customers as for now. We reversed all the mail back and blocked cards that were activated earlier. We regret to share such news, but this is crypto reality. ICO has been suspended. If you are one of the customers, visit the most famous bitcointalk thread and say thank you. We are doing our best to resume operations as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: May 18, 2018, 03:21:22 PM
https://twitter.com/Jager_Binance/status/997373757520932866?s=19

https://twitter.com/Teddy_Lin/status/997410681128300546

talked to Jager on telegram, and he said if they don't remove their logo from the website, a tweet will likely come from either @binance or from CZ
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: May 18, 2018, 01:00:46 PM
https://t.me/binanceexchange/1693994

even binance admins calling scam
7  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: May 17, 2018, 07:43:39 PM
Great news everyone!
We have just signed a preliminary listing agreement with one of the biggest cryptocurrency exchanges in Asia and in the world - Binance. Listing will be processed within a two week time-frame following the successful completion of the token Sale.

Additional information will be posted on our social media channels - make sure to follow us!


15% Bonus is still available for those who missed previous stages!

Best Regards
Hash Card Team


Is poland near Russia ??


https://support.binance.com/hc/en-us/articles/115003509652-Listing-a-Coin


"We will make our announcements for listing coins in our announcements section. Please keep in mind that we keep this information strictly confidential, and if a team shares this information before we announce it, they risk disqualification of their token being listed on Binance."
8  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: May 17, 2018, 09:10:16 AM


apparently it is "absolutely not true". case closed guys!
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]HashCard: Revolutionising HOW You Use Credit & Debit Cards on: May 17, 2018, 08:29:10 AM

Attention!

Hash Card is currently only project on the market that delivered working crypto debet card.
No competitor - TenX, Monaco, FuzeX, CryptoPay, Centra, Amon, Paycent etc. - managed to deliver working product.

Hashcards will soon arrive to first customers and after that the ICO might sell out very quickly
and when Hash Card token hits the market it might be one of the most profitable tokens of the year.

Just compare the numbers - there will be 9 million USD worth of tokens sold in the ICO,
while the competitors like TenX or Monaco have above 150 million USD market caps without even delivering working product.

This token is bound for the moon, but unfortunatelly people from some jurisdictions (like USA and China) are not able to participate.
Also some people can not go through KYC (you need to send documents to the devs, photo of your passport/ID and utility bill sent for your address).

Many people are disappointed they can not take part in this ICO and that they are missing huge gains.

Is there a solution? Yes there is.
Can you buy some tokens before they hit the exchanges despite you are from USA/China or can't go through KYC? Yes.
Explanation below.





1. First of all, do not trust anyone e-mailing you or contacting via PM. Cryptoworld is full of scammers. Always think before you act.
2. Prepare the amount of coins you are willing to invest (minimum 5 ETH). Also note that your will be buing coins at 300% ICO price (which is still good, when you compare it with the market caps of other projects and how high it can go).
There can be negotiations for bigger orders (20 ETH and more). Note that maximum investment is 200 ETH (rule applied by Hash Card team, not me).
3. Register on Bitrated.com - this is a platform when you can rate trustworthiness of people in crypto. There are many notable people there, like the Litecoin creator etc.
4. Contact me via PM and let's find each other on Bitrated. You can check my trustworthiness on the platform there if you want but it is not necessary, since we will be using escrow of your choice anyway.
You need to chose any highly rated person from the platform that you like- that person of your choice will be our escrow, someone who makes sure everything is fine and both sides are safe and not scammed.
5. You send your personal ETH address to the escrow (this is the address you want the Hasch Card token to be sent to).
6. I buy the tokens to you with my own ETH.
7. You send your ETH to the escrow who keeps them till I send you Hash Card tokens (within 24 hours).
8. When you confirm that you indeed got the tokens, escrow send ETH to me. This way both parties are safe - I can not run away with your ETH (it is kept by escrow till you get your tokens)
and you can not run away with the tokens (escrow gets your ETH before tokens are sent).
9. After successful deal both of us rate the deal on Bitrated to mark that it went good.

So you're saying stay away from scams, but you offer to sell your tokens at 3x the price you bought them, and consider it a good deal?  Roll Eyes
10  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: May 15, 2018, 09:53:59 PM
Let us know how it works out for you! (and maybe send us a pic of your card if you're willing to do that)
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN]HashCard: Revolutionising HOW You Use Credit & Debit Cards on: May 14, 2018, 05:33:32 PM
I'll just cross-post this here:

https://www.imageworksdirect.com/blog/new-mastercard-brand-requirements
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All Mastercard and Debit Mastercard cards printed on or after July 4, 2017, must include the new Brand Mark.

Their cards still have the old logo, so either they already made the deal before July 4th last year and already started printing before then, or they just didn't do their research well enough. I think it's the latter  Wink
No way in hell Mastercard would have approved this graphic to be printed (which they most certainly need to give permission on before this can go into production), so these cards are just a printed piece of plastic.
12  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Hashcard.io a scam [Confirmed] on: May 14, 2018, 05:03:31 PM
If you still have any doubts, just watch their announcement video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8hE6Rc3L_U
They clearly have no clue what they are talking about, you can see clearly as they read the text. Clueless. Eh, we'll see tomorrow which rout they're taking with this. I have my popcorn ready.


EDIT:

Scratch that, I've found the best proof you possible to debunk their so-called 'live' cards: https://www.imageworksdirect.com/blog/new-mastercard-brand-requirements
Quote
All Mastercard and Debit Mastercard cards printed on or after July 4, 2017, must include the new Brand Mark.

Their cards still have the old logo, so either they already made the deal before July 4th last year and already started printing before then, or they just didn't do their research well enough. I think it's the latter  Wink
No way in hell Mastercard would have approved this graphic to be printed (which they most certainly need to give permission on before this can go into production), so these cards are just a printed piece of plastic.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: November 01, 2017, 09:10:26 AM


Read this at first and re-read what you wrote. Their language is confusing, though what I understood, that money will be from this:

We generate revenue every time our customers swipe Monaco card from the fees paid by merchants (interchange revenue). On average, merchants accepting a payment with a card receive only $97 of every $100 spent by the customer, $3 being split between card scheme, program manager, issuing bank and acquiring bank. Monaco’s share of the interchange revenue comes in at 1.5-2% depending on transaction profile. Monaco will roll-out new, revenue generating products over time.


That's just bad wording from their side, they mean 1.5-2% of the payment made. How else do you think they can provide 0.75% (even more for platinum) cashback? Basic logic.


Where is logic buddy. If there is $3 taken from $100, so $3 are split between all parties involved. How they can take more? Monaco’s share of the interchange revenue comes in at 1.5-2% depending on transaction profile.

(interchange revenue) - the fees paid by merchants. (these $3 from $100 spent)

So re-read again please!

You clearly have no idea how interchange fees work. Here is an example:



In this case MCO is the issuing bank, thus receives 1,70% of the TOTAL TRANSACTION (percentage depends locally)
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: November 01, 2017, 08:57:15 AM


Read this at first and re-read what you wrote. Their language is confusing, though what I understood, that money will be from this:

We generate revenue every time our customers swipe Monaco card from the fees paid by merchants (interchange revenue). On average, merchants accepting a payment with a card receive only $97 of every $100 spent by the customer, $3 being split between card scheme, program manager, issuing bank and acquiring bank. Monaco’s share of the interchange revenue comes in at 1.5-2% depending on transaction profile. Monaco will roll-out new, revenue generating products over time.


That's just bad wording from their side, they mean 1.5-2% of the payment made. How else do you think they can provide 0.75% (even more for platinum) cashback? Basic logic.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: November 01, 2017, 08:48:25 AM
Please dump more! Cheesy I see that people do not have brain to do basic calculations about that asset contract shit. I thought that it's worthless before they said to remove it. But my motivation was exactly that people will freeze their mcos. So I see only positive thing here!!!

Here is some math guys!

Total: 31,587,682 tokens

For example, in 1 year time they will reach 500,000 customers. Every customer on average spends like 20'000 usd per year or less. Merchants pay 3% for all parties involved in transaction. So it's $600 usd paid by merchants from $20k spent by 1 customer.

Monaco gets 1.5% from these $600 = $9 !!!

So in BEST case scenario, they will have $4,500,000 in fees in 1 year. Asset contract promised 1% from this sum to be held.

In result we have only $45,000, fucking $45k per 1 year split by 31,587,682 tokens. How this fucking can drive price of mco up?Huh?  You are dumb people or what, or just want manipulate market and use this as excuse!!!!?Huh

Total price of mco by earnings per year held in asset contract: 0.00142460596 USD

How the fuck this can drive price?HuhHuhHuh Monaco team knows what they are doing. HOLD! For those who do not get what I wrote, then leave, this is not for you kids.

P.S. I didn't counted consumers who stop using services. This would bring asset contract 1% even lower.





At least when you do math, do correct math.

In the whitepaper it states:

Quote
MCO Asset Contract accrues a 1% licensing fee on
transactions using the Monaco Card funded with
ETH/BTC, as well as exchange transactions between
ETH/BTC and fiat currencies. Over time MCO will be
backed by a portfolio of the most popular ERC20
tokens. MCO holders will be able to access the
portfolio through a mechanism called “REDEEM &
BURN” (see 1.6).
Fees from card swipes will be denominated in the
token being used to fund the swipe (ETH or BTC at
launch). These fees will be sent directly to the MCO
Asset Contract. Over time, this contract will accrue
tokens in proportion to the usage of the Monaco Card
& App globally.

so 1% of total transaction volume goes into the asset contract (as well as exchange transactions, but I'll leave that for now)

If I use the numbers you added up, the math goes as follows:

Users: 500,000
Volume per user: 20,000 (a bit steep tbh, but for now I'll use your example)

So total volume will be 10,000,000,000 usd in a year. 1% of that goes into the asset contract.

So that means 100,000,000 in the asset contract with those numbers.

Circulating supply is 9,814,875 tokens, which would add a value of 10,19$ per token. Keep in mind that is year one, and price will increase over the years.

This is not even taking in account token burn that would occur anytime someone takes from the asset pool
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TenX [ICO] end of June: making Blockchain assets spendable on: August 23, 2017, 03:52:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvGc4-hZMWc&feature=youtu.be&t=731

not a joke Wink
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TenX [ICO] end of June: making Blockchain assets spendable on: August 21, 2017, 09:00:57 PM
The app launched into beta but the token price decreased  Huh  I think PAY is cursed?  Lips sealed

it increased. not a lot, but still Wink

18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TenX [ICO] end of June: making Blockchain assets spendable on: August 21, 2017, 06:09:54 PM
https://scontent.fkul4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20476358_1933446303539240_5245724184679131611_n.jpg?oh=0eda5435d13eba4a38c403e1308ff628&oe=5A340527

Above is how Tenx earn money

Hello, I have question about Tenx share

Total supply is 205,218,256 PAY

Since Tenx hold 20% of total token mean 20% share of Tenx,
1.4% of monthly users spent transaction is profit for Tenx, let's say monthly spent on Tenx card is 100k usd, Tenx earn 1400usd, Tenx (hold 20% of share) earn 280usd (1400 x20%)
If I hold 1% of PAY token total supply, will I get 1% of 1400usd (14usd) ?

ATM, 49% of the tokens are still being held, so only 100,000,000 in circulation. Tokens that are on exchange wallets such as bittrex and tokens in Tenx contracts (those 49%) are excluded
from the payout. So let's say the total tokens held in private wallets (thus eligible for rewards) are around 70,000,000.






By buying Tenx Pay token, any benefit except getting 0.5% of transaction spent? Let's say yearly transaction spent on Tenx is 1,200,000,000usd (from their whitepaper example), market capital current 400,000,000usd (4usd/Pay Token).

Annual Return will be 1,200,000,000 x 0.5%=6,000,000usd/400,000,000usd=1.5% per year return

mean current price (4usd) is not a good price to invest?

your calculations are correct my friend. And that's if they achieved $1.2 Billion which won't happen in years. TenX is way overvalued right now, and the price will correct towards the end of the year when people start realizing how little dividends they're getting.

So tell me about the 90% of cryptocurrencies that don't distribute dividends, will their value be reduced to zero by the end of the year? Don't think so...
The coin is about more than just dividends people, it's an investment in the company and a token of appreciation and belief in the team.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TenX [ICO] end of June: making Blockchain assets spendable on: August 20, 2017, 07:38:55 AM
https://scontent.fkul4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20476358_1933446303539240_5245724184679131611_n.jpg?oh=0eda5435d13eba4a38c403e1308ff628&oe=5A340527

Above is how Tenx earn money

Hello, I have question about Tenx share

Total supply is 205,218,256 PAY

Since Tenx hold 20% of total token mean 20% share of Tenx,
1.4% of monthly users spent transaction is profit for Tenx, let's say monthly spent on Tenx card is 100k usd, Tenx earn 1400usd, Tenx (hold 20% of share) earn 280usd (1400 x20%)
If I hold 1% of PAY token total supply, will I get 1% of 1400usd (14usd) ?

ATM, 49% of the tokens are still being held, so only 100,000,000 in circulation. Tokens that are on exchange wallets such as bittrex and tokens in Tenx contracts (those 49%) are excluded
from the payout. So let's say the total tokens held in private wallets (thus eligible for rewards) are around 70,000,000.


20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] TenX [ICO] end of June: making Blockchain assets spendable on: August 17, 2017, 07:34:37 AM




LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy    Where do we find these people??!!! How do we attract these people???!! I can't believe this kind of mentality exists out there!!!

This is why 99.9% lose.


BTC-MCO 255%
BYC--PAY -7.4%  LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Well, I'm still up 515% on my original tenX investment from roughly a month ago, you don't hear me complain Wink
Seems to me most new people are just in it to make a quick buck, and not because they support and believe in a system.
In the end, only the company's with a working product and good marketing/userbase will prevail, while other shitcoins die out.
(not saying MCO is a bad product though)
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