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1  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] btcQuick - Bitcoin Sales Service on: June 11, 2014, 08:06:46 PM
I do believe that Acension is not going to pay anything to anyone,but I know that complaint this guy to SEC under the criminal of selling fraudulence stock will be help. Have you seen that recently the owner of stashidice have been fine by the SEC because of selling unregulated stock to the public. Anyone who stay in the USA ,that is conviniened to contacting SEC should help the rest of us to against this guy by filling a complaint sheet .
2  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: June 11, 2014, 07:53:20 PM
how much does he owe you if you dont mind telling us ?
I do not understand why a bunch of you do not pool together.. you only need 1 solicitor.
surely a few of you together could afford it ?

Peronally I'd be on a plane to USA or wherever he is... but i am spiteful lol... espeacilly when money is involved.

I would say I wish you all the best of luck (and I do) but at this stage... it is not looking good.....
More chance of Pirate saying out....

I'm trying to contact him presently. He said in early May that he expected dividends to resume in about a month and expected to repay the loan by the end of the year.

I'm going to try to find out if he is still on track for that timeline.

I've talked to SOSLOVE868, and will likely join up with him for a lawsuit in the event the loan is not repaid. I think that are best chance is to avoid the legal route if at all possible. We may have no choice though.

fyi, ukyo owes me roughly 250 btc. I'm not sure how much he owes SOSLOVE868. A smaller amount, but still a significant amount if I recall correctly.

I am still waiting for u, u r right that Ukyo owes me about 210 BTC and about 300 for Rockxie ,I have contacted with Rockxie ,he also willing to join the lawsuit. However taking customer's fund or either taking loan without consider to pay back,it's a fraud and criminal behavior. I think Ukyo knows it.
3  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: June 10, 2014, 04:48:42 AM
do we really give up this loan?
nobody here has think of anyway to sue UKYO??
I wish I could sue this guy ,but the legal cost become a barrier ahead me... shit!!!!!!
4  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / Re: 有谁知道小强在这个论坛的ID是啥吗? on: June 01, 2014, 12:24:35 AM
我找的这个小强是ROCK啥的一个ID,他是ASICMINER的一个股东。他在BITFUNDER上大约有200个比特币被UKYO骗走不肯归还,我找到是想跟他一起联合起诉UKYO。我想问一下大家如果有谁知道的,麻烦告诉我一下,谢谢了
我也还有0.0几个BTC在weexchange上呢!
小强ID: rockxie
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=60803
多谢了,已经发PM给他,希望能得到他的回复。
5  Local / 中文 (Chinese) / 有谁知道小强在这个论坛的ID是啥吗? on: May 31, 2014, 11:29:08 PM
我找的这个小强是ROCK啥的一个ID,他是ASICMINER的一个股东。他在BITFUNDER上大约有200个比特币被UKYO骗走不肯归还,我找到是想跟他一起联合起诉UKYO。我想问一下大家如果有谁知道的,麻烦告诉我一下,谢谢了
6  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: May 30, 2014, 04:40:34 PM
Ukyo,can u please pay back some BTC back!please!
7  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] btcQuick - Bitcoin Sales Service on: May 26, 2014, 07:19:32 PM
I have some of his personal
Info,what can we do with it? He scam me for about 100 BTC which is mean almost 60K usd ,shit this guy!
8  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] btcQuick - Bitcoin Sales Service on: May 25, 2014, 04:50:46 AM
why dont we suit him? why everytime we just can;t do anything to those scamer? I have been deeply hurt by those busts, but because there is nothing we can do ,then it become really nothing we can't do.
9  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
I really doubt this claim portal is working....

please if anyone got success login share a picture .. I am curious about how it looks like.
10  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 02:52:23 AM
Managed to login and see what I am owed. A step forward,thanks
Dose anyone that can login to this portal? I have finish the registration ,but I can't login with the user name and password. also there nothing error indication, the only things is i stay in the same page , when I am login.
I have not been able to login with my username/password and no answer from Ukyo either yet.

I got the same problem... I am really patience less, why don't you join me ? THY?
11  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 02:29:46 AM
we need sue this guy , he already keep our money without any any dividend almost half year!!

I still waiting for some majority debt holders come to join me .... please PM me!!!
12  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 01:47:07 AM
Managed to login and see what I am owed. A step forward,thanks
Dose anyone that can login to this portal? I have finish the registration ,but I can't login with the user name and password. also there nothing error indication, the only things is i stay in the same page , when I am login.
13  Economy / Securities / Re: [Weexchange issue] The fall of Ukyo III - Updates and references on: April 04, 2014, 01:46:20 AM
Quick update for all UKYO's loan holders or We exchange Users.

I am still negotiating the hourly rate with my lawyer. but below are some information for you if you want to join to my lawsuit against Ukyo. I still think that lawsuit against UKYO is still the only hope you can have a chance to know what going on there and received possible pay back from Ukyo .

1: people who joint my lawsuit will need to send some deposit to the lawyer. I will gives you his bank account detail, and also you can contact him to find out what happening there. before you send the money to the lawyer ,I will gives you all his personal detail and contact detail. 

2: all cost related to against Ukyo is calculate based on the percentage of how much UKYO owes you towards total liability that against Ukyo in this lawsuit case.
For example, if Ukyo owes me 100 BTC , and there are 1000 total liability in this lawsuit is against to UKYO. then I will respond for 10% of the total cost. of course, that I also will received 10% from what UKYO pays in the future.

3: all cost are calculate in USD , so for people who willing to join this case, you have to prepare some USD first.

4: if not convenience for you   to send USD directly to the Lawyer, it also possible you can send me BTC, then I will based on current conversion rate and help you to send the USD to the Lawyer. (if you trust me, but I do prefer that you send directly to the lawyer).

5: The final hourly rate still being negotiating , so is only receiving people who willing to join me at this moment by PM or Email to Mistake868@hotmail.com( once it been confirm and I will let you know the final rate, and you make your choice that either to join or not.)

6: Last call to joint this lawsuit is 20.04.2014, and also you will need to get you money to the Lawyers account before 30.04.2014. after that date , that Lawyer will star his work, so it is no reason to bothering him to further modify the agreement between us and him.


PS: If there are any unclear information that please do ask me, and however  forgive my poor English.

Kind Regard

Yuan Lu



 
14  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] btcQuick - Bitcoin Sales Service on: April 04, 2014, 01:45:14 AM
Quick update for all UKYO's loan holders or We exchange Users.

I am still negotiating the hourly rate with my lawyer. but below are some information for you if you want to join to my lawsuit against Ukyo. I still think that lawsuit against UKYO is still the only hope you can have a chance to know what going on there and received possible pay back from Ukyo .

1: people who joint my lawsuit will need to send some deposit to the lawyer. I will gives you his bank account detail, and also you can contact him to find out what happening there. before you send the money to the lawyer ,I will gives you all his personal detail and contact detail. 

2: all cost related to against Ukyo is calculate based on the percentage of how much UKYO owes you towards total liability that against Ukyo in this lawsuit case.
For example, if Ukyo owes me 100 BTC , and there are 1000 total liability in this lawsuit is against to UKYO. then I will respond for 10% of the total cost. of course, that I also will received 10% from what UKYO pays in the future.

3: all cost are calculate in USD , so for people who willing to join this case, you have to prepare some USD first.

4: if not convenience for you   to send USD directly to the Lawyer, it also possible you can send me BTC, then I will based on current conversion rate and help you to send the USD to the Lawyer. (if you trust me, but I do prefer that you send directly to the lawyer).

5: The final hourly rate still being negotiating , so is only receiving people who willing to join me at this moment by PM or Email to Mistake868@hotmail.com( once it been confirm and I will let you know the final rate, and you make your choice that either to join or not.)

6: Last call to joint this lawsuit is 20.04.2014, and also you will need to get you money to the Lawyers account before 30.04.2014. after that date , that Lawyer will star his work, so it is no reason to bothering him to further modify the agreement between us and him.


PS: If there are any unclear information that please do ask me, and however  forgive my poor English.

Kind Regard

Yuan Lu



 
15  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: April 04, 2014, 01:44:45 AM
Quick update for all UKYO's loan holders or We exchange Users.

I am still negotiating the hourly rate with my lawyer. but below are some information for you if you want to join to my lawsuit against Ukyo. I still think that lawsuit against UKYO is still the only hope you can have a chance to know what going on there and received possible pay back from Ukyo .

1: people who joint my lawsuit will need to send some deposit to the lawyer. I will gives you his bank account detail, and also you can contact him to find out what happening there. before you send the money to the lawyer ,I will gives you all his personal detail and contact detail. 

2: all cost related to against Ukyo is calculate based on the percentage of how much UKYO owes you towards total liability that against Ukyo in this lawsuit case.
For example, if Ukyo owes me 100 BTC , and there are 1000 total liability in this lawsuit is against to UKYO. then I will respond for 10% of the total cost. of course, that I also will received 10% from what UKYO pays in the future.

3: all cost are calculate in USD , so for people who willing to join this case, you have to prepare some USD first.

4: if not convenience for you   to send USD directly to the Lawyer, it also possible you can send me BTC, then I will based on current conversion rate and help you to send the USD to the Lawyer. (if you trust me, but I do prefer that you send directly to the lawyer).

5: The final hourly rate still being negotiating , so is only receiving people who willing to join me at this moment by PM or Email to Mistake868@hotmail.com( once it been confirm and I will let you know the final rate, and you make your choice that either to join or not.)

6: Last call to joint this lawsuit is 20.04.2014, and also you will need to get you money to the Lawyers account before 30.04.2014. after that date , that Lawyer will star his work, so it is no reason to bothering him to further modify the agreement between us and him.


PS: If there are any unclear information that please do ask me, and however  forgive my poor English.

Kind Regard

Yuan Lu



 
16  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 04, 2014, 01:44:09 AM
Quick update for all UKYO's loan holders or We exchange Users.

I am still negotiating the hourly rate with my lawyer. but below are some information for you if you want to join to my lawsuit against Ukyo. I still think that lawsuit against UKYO is still the only hope you can have a chance to know what going on there and received possible pay back from Ukyo .

1: people who joint my lawsuit will need to send some deposit to the lawyer. I will gives you his bank account detail, and also you can contact him to find out what happening there. before you send the money to the lawyer ,I will gives you all his personal detail and contact detail. 

2: all cost related to against Ukyo is calculate based on the percentage of how much UKYO owes you towards total liability that against Ukyo in this lawsuit case.
For example, if Ukyo owes me 100 BTC , and there are 1000 total liability in this lawsuit is against to UKYO. then I will respond for 10% of the total cost. of course, that I also will received 10% from what UKYO pays in the future.

3: all cost are calculate in USD , so for people who willing to join this case, you have to prepare some USD first.

4: if not convenience for you   to send USD directly to the Lawyer, it also possible you can send me BTC, then I will based on current conversion rate and help you to send the USD to the Lawyer. (if you trust me, but I do prefer that you send directly to the lawyer).

5: The final hourly rate still being negotiating , so is only receiving people who willing to join me at this moment by PM or Email to Mistake868@hotmail.com( once it been confirm and I will let you know the final rate, and you make your choice that either to join or not.)

6: Last call to joint this lawsuit is 20.04.2014, and also you will need to get you money to the Lawyers account before 30.04.2014. after that date , that Lawyer will star his work, so it is no reason to bothering him to further modify the agreement between us and him.


PS: If there are any unclear information that please do ask me, and however  forgive my poor English.

Kind Regard

Yuan Lu



 
17  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: March 21, 2014, 03:05:15 PM
Just for a update, I have talked to a lawyer who specialize dealing with debt collection.
He said ,that if UKYO has really taken user's fund and not intend to return, he will going to jail because this is a criminal behavior.  

and he can't hide any fund, because all BTC transaction is traceable ,right now, the only things concern me is the cost legal fee.

If going to sue him alone, it going to cost me 20-30K dollars, so I still looking for more people to join me ,become a group people against UKYO.

If anyone interest on this you can PM me ,with how much he owes you.

all cost relate to this lawsuit we be shared proportionally by joint people.

Thanks  
18  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: March 13, 2014, 04:40:49 AM
This is how it goes:
http://www.coindesk.com/chicago-court-freezes-mark-karpeles-assets-us/

Let's get a group action claim started against Montroll/Graet/Bitfunder/Weex as Edelson did and get Montroll's assets freezed asap while we can. Many would like to see Montroll's photo on the news as well.
Volunteers in the US wishing to be a point of contact for the lawyers please say so.

Jon Montroll, please be so kind to give an update on your progress, if any, asap or answer our questions directly on the court.


I am totally agree with this, and I will fly to Dallas by this sunday ,and have a pointment with a lawyer by the following Monday. I think I need someone to gathering all people to against Ukyo, not only myself. However because I am not living USA, It is really costly for me to fly from London to Dallas again and over again.
19  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: March 12, 2014, 10:02:51 PM
guys, i need ukyo's company registration paper ...because I am going to find a lawyer to get back our BTC back. if anyone knows ,please share it with me ,thanks !!!

Or by costing him legal fees you will ruin us all.

How long do you plan to wait before you would consider that your money has been stolen. It has been about 3  months. So what then, wait another 3 months? 6? A year even?Would you even then, after a year, start to suspect your money was stolen? All the indicators point to this being the case, good luck with Jon coming back in the future and returning your money  Undecided

It's a tough choice. He claims he has the money invested in new business ventures and that those investments should eventually return a profit allowing him to pay back the loan. Unfortunately he won't tell us what these ventures are or what their status is.

Since he has owned or ran several businesses in his life, he likely has some assets. If you sue him and he declares bankruptcy as a result, you won't get his house. The courts will likely let him keep that. But you may get something. After the lawyers take their giant share though. Before you do that, you should get a good idea of what his assets are.

I think I am still ukyo's biggest creditor, and I'm one of many. Ukyo's total liabilities are estimated at $2-$3 million between ukyo.loan and bitfunder. I'm getting a bit frustrated too. The well over hundred thousand that ukyo owes me would definitely make it worth my time to get the best lawyer I could find if I decide to go that route. Whatever you do, make sure you've thought it out very clearly first. You might end up costing yourself more money that you get out of it.
Do you want to join me with this ?the total liabilities from u and me  is around 40k USD, and the legal cost for two of us should be the same as only one .  it is worth to give a try, I think stay and waiting here would be useless.  what you think?

I would, but I haven't decided definitely to go that route yet. I sent a message to ukyo a few days ago and I'm going to give him a chance to respond first.
Dear Mgio:
I would give him more time thought, the cost and time I spend to Dallas isn't cheap , but Ukyo never reply My message, I do not know about u ?did he reply to u ?

The last I heard from him was at the end of January. That was before the MtGox collapse. If his new business venture was taking over business for MtGox in the US, then that is all lost now. In that case, the only thing left to do would be to contact our lawyers and force him to liquidate his remaining assets to pay off the loan. There is a possibility that his business ventures were not tied to MtGox, but until I hear from him otherwise, I'm going to assume that that isn't the case. I messaged him about two weeks ago and I haven't heard anything back yet. I'll give him another week or two. I'm sure he is really busy but he should at least be able to spend the time keeping in contact with his creditors. The total value of ukyo.loan is still well over a million dollars.

I am going fly to Dallas this sunday, I have contact with a attorney already, I made a pointment with him by monday morning, Hope I can get some wise suggestion from him.

20  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: March 10, 2014, 03:16:33 PM
Dear lovely Bitcoiner:
  I am plan to fly to Dallas on next Monday, before that I really hope to find a lawyer to discuss about this issue . however I have send out plenty of consultation requests form to these law firm companies in Dallas, none of them had been reply-ed. I am really kindly asking all of people who watching this thread to introduce a lawyer in Dallas to me ,I will try my best to helping us makes Ukyo pay us back through legally matter, to deserve what he should .

Thanks

Yuan
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