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1  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Easy or hard to quit? on: June 12, 2023, 10:36:52 PM
Can you quit gambling if you make a life changing money and never go back to gambling?

I asked this because those who made some money through gambling near me always go back to gamble and they end up losing everything they once made through gambling.

Is it fine to say that people should not go back into gambling once they made high amount of money? Because the chance of losing that money again is very high, even if they don't use all the money to gamble at once, gambling can take it all back in time.

Have you ever won a high amount of money from gambling and managed to not lose them all back to gambling? And to date, you are still gambling?
I will continue to gamble because I don't see gambling as my main way of making money but rather my way of entertaining myself

btw, if you think that the money you won at the beginning is money that you can save, then you are wrong, you have to buy something from gambling winnings or invest it because you think you will definitely continue to force you to use that money and gamble with the money that you have set every time. every day so you can control how much you spend and lose every time you gamble

2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: There are many advantages to the relationship between gambling and Bitcoin. on: June 12, 2023, 09:41:35 PM
There are many advantages to the relationship between gambling and Bitcoin. Firstly, Bitcoin provides a secure and decentralized way to gamble online, which is attractive to many gamblers who value their privacy and security. Transactions are processed quickly and can be completed without third-party intermediaries, making it a popular choice for online gambling sites.

Another advantage of using Bitcoin for gambling is that it allows for more anonymity than traditional payment methods. This can be especially important for gamblers who wish to keep their gambling activities private.

Furthermore, Bitcoin transactions are often cheaper and faster than traditional banking methods, which can save gamblers money and time.

Many online casinos and sports betting sites now offer exclusive bonuses and promotions for Bitcoin users, which can provide gamblers with extra incentives to use Bitcoin for their online gambling activities.

Can you tell us another advantage of opening an account in a Bitcoin Sportsbook?

everything you said about the advantages of gambling with bitcoin is true, but I think one thing you are missing is the fee fee. many sportsbook bitcoin gambling sites, withdrawing winnings no matter how much the fee is charged is still the same (although the bitcoin fee is still a little fluctuating)

I am very thankful that bitcoin appeared in this world and I will not use fiat anymore to gamble, I will only use bitcoin to gamble
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Saudi Professional League 2022/2023 on: June 12, 2023, 09:30:35 PM

Maybe yes, because everything we say is an assumption. included, as you said. and even we agree, that the reason that is closest to reality is a fantastic salary. in theory, at the end of his career, Benzema will not earn as much as he would with his new club Al Ittihad. the fact is, that money is the real trigger. it's just that, we also can not rule out other supporting factors. apart from his age and the money factor in return for accepting the offer, cultural factors were also one of the factors that made Benzema willing to leave Real Madrid. at least, it makes more sense if we refer to multiple approaches from various factors regardless of the salary offered. because, there are many considerations for European stars to refuse to play in the competition. one of them, the issue of sharia law which is not as free as in Europe. not to mention, cultural and language issues. I'm pretty sure Messi has also previously considered it from all aspects until he chose MLS.
I actually can't wait to see how Benzema and his new team, Al Ittihad, will look at Al Nassr, which is occupied by CR7. and to be honest I support benzema with her choice by moving to al ittihad and receiving a fantastic salary because indeed at her old age, money is the most logical thing
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: June 12, 2023, 08:54:12 PM
Really sad to see people get eaten by gambling and making a lot of wrong decisions in life, Suppose it might connect to being a man taking all of their problems by themself, I mean if he tells this problem to his family I really doubt that this is still going to happen When men tend to hide their problems they just solve it by them self and starting to make wrong decisions, but if their share their problem it could help a lot and his family can easily help him solved his dept, whatever it is they are still family so they'll help each other.

Still difficult to think that people can go this far, to the point of doing something to their own granddaughter I mean I see all grandmothers and grandfathers as loving people maybe because they are already old they just think of taking care of their family because they still can.
So far I noticed a lot of people who are not able to control themselves because their desires dominate their minds more than their own logic, and that also happened to that grandfather (in the first post of the OP)

gambling addiction is one of the most dangerous things in society, I'm sure the government in every country really pays attention to this because it can be an order of social life in society, hopefully bad events like this topic only happen once in a lifetime
5  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: FIFA U-20 World Cup 2023 [Discussion] on: June 12, 2023, 07:35:15 PM
The tournament is about to start in four days from now, and I am surprised at the inactivity of this thread. And this is despite so much controversy related to the selection of hosts. Argentina was selected as the hosts, after Indonesia was disqualified. The tournament will be held in 4 Argentine cities - La Plata, Santiago del Estero, Mendoza and San Juan. Obviously Argentina will be the favorites to win the trophy this time, as they have the home advantage. But I will be curious to see how some of the emerging teams perform this time, mainly Uzbekistan, Fiji and Honduras.
I see that not many people pay attention to this topic because this event is not really that horrendous, but I congratulate the U-20 Uruguay national team who have successfully won the U-20 world cup this time after fighting hard with the Italian U-20 national team (Luciano Rodriguez scored a beautiful goal and at the same time won for Uruguay in the 86th minute)

6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: June 12, 2023, 07:18:50 PM
Nowadays, I believe that football has become a little more unpredictable than it used to be. I would say that it is at least more unpredictable than it was in the past. I have always considered Real Madrid to be one of the best teams in the Champions League. Manchester City is also showing good form. Due to the fact that Manchester City is the current defending Champions League title holder right now, it is safe to say that they are the best team.

Honestly, I don't think that PSG is even close to their level, as far as I'm concerned. And if we talk about Barcelona I have to say that the Barcelona we have right now is not on track to win the Champions League.
barcelona was eliminated from the UCL and UEL last season, it shows that their performance is not stable for international events

even though it already has a good squad, barcelona is still unable to keep up with the performance of man city, madrid and bayern in the champions league for now, at the next UCL event i'm not sure barcelona will have big changes, it seems that xavi hasn't been able to afford that

7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can i make 100 $ daily from online casinos on: June 12, 2023, 07:04:06 PM
the scenario in gambling is more on losing 100 bucks a day is very very easy rather than earning this amount. but you can, if you are into sportsbetting and you have also good bankroll.
people should accept the reality that gambling won't give you such passive income if you will just play their regular games. as mentioned above, there should be other features of the casino that you are exploring with like the bankroll investment, affiliate commission and others.
In gambling, losing any amount of money can be easier than earning even a small amount, this is also the case with sports betting because there is no guarantee that all bets can be won, even if there is a large amount of money, there is still the possibility of manipulation and low Odds the team will also lose.
Always remember that no gambler can beat the house edge.
Accepting defeat or accepting that gambling cannot provide a steady income is a must because if gamblers have thoughts of getting rich from gambling then believe me they will be ruined in a short time.
All gambling players, of course, have high hopes of getting rich in one night from gambling, but the reality is that they should not be able to do that because most of them only end up with big losses and run out of capital

reduce expectations in gambling so that your mind doesn't mess you up with the final results you get, keep making gambling your entertainment and you will definitely get big win
8  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kenapa Banyak yang Sering Ganti Sigcam Bayaran BTC on: June 12, 2023, 06:40:47 PM
Pertanyaan agan mewakili apa yang ada di hati kecilku. Saat ini sigcam yang bayaran btc jadi primadona dan impian bagi kita-kita yang berharap ada tambahan pemasukan. Meski saya jarang aktif berkomentar tapi kadang kalo online memantau orang-orang yang bisa masuk ke sigcam. Bisa punya penghasilan mingguan pasti menyenangkan, minimal uang sebat ga pernah kurang.

Mungkin bagi member yang memang populer dan aktif, ganti-ganti sigcam sangat mudah. kalo bagi saya bisa ketrima aja impian... dari kemaren terlalu banyak pekerjaan di real jadi ga bisa membagi waktu di forum. Ini udah pada kelar jadi mungkin kedepan bisa sedikit lebih aktif di forum ini.. tentu kalo jujur salah satu harapannya ya bisa masuk ke sigcam jadi bisa bantu keluarga. Mungkin terlalu pragmatis ya gan.. tapi gimana lagi, kita mah orang kecil
tetap optimis aja gan, kita semua disini join di sig camp yang bayaran btc untuk memenuhi pendapatan sampingan kok gan, saya juga cukup sibuk di dunia nyata karena pekerjaan namun msh aktif nge post di forum ini karena sig kamp yang saya ikuti. semoga ke depannya makin aktif ya gan
9  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Sedekah ke Pengemis on: June 12, 2023, 02:28:30 PM
pertanyaan saya adalah apakah agan2 di sini semua nya adalah tipe orang yang bersedekah tanpa pandang mulu, kalo saya sih ogah ngasih sedekah ke orang2 yang masih sehat walafiat namun beda hal ke yang disabilitas ya, saya pasti akan langsung ngasih tu apalagi kalo bagian tubuhnya yang cacat itu terpampang jelas.
dah lama gak pernah ngasih apapun ke pengemis, pernah liat berita mereka datang dari kampung ke kota buat ngemis, jadi kerjaan, enak banget cuma nadah tangan langsung dapat duit. stop ngasih duit ke pengemis, pekerjaan ini ada karena kita yang ngasih. kalau bener mau sedekah ya ke badan amal, masjid, yayasan, tetangga yang susah atau lainnya.
saya sih mendukung agar kita semua lebih aktif memberikan sedekah atau donasi ke rumah ibadah atau tetangga yang memang benar benar membutuhkan ketimbang pengemis yang memang menjadikan itu sebagai pekerjaan. sepertinya pemerintah harus mengedukasi warga nya untuk tidak sembarangan memberikan uang pada pengemis agar mereka tidak menjadikan itu sebagai pekerjaan utama mereka
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling is not a steady income haven on: June 12, 2023, 01:35:37 PM
Gambling places are not for steady income, if you want steady income with gambling, online or offline, you have to be a owner, build your own casino and watch yourself growing up into a filthy rich billionaire.

Online casinos are places where it's certain that you will lose your money, it's a place where you need to be mentality sane to at least have a good ride and experience as you progress, it's not always about making money with gambling, it's always about not ending up running insane because of gambling.

To make this happen, you need to discipline yourself up, make sure you set some rules on how you will handle gambling every day and how much you are willing to risk on gambling every day or else you will end up in the gutter, with full regrets.

That's if you are not even addicted to gambling already, a addicted gambler always have one goal in mind, '( I have to make back all I have lost ), this is where the beginning of the end begins.
No I don't think an addicted gambler is just thinking about making back all he has lost otherwise he would stop gambling once he's in profit. While gambling addicts don't stop so easily, they continue to gamble even if they are not at loss anymore, because they like to gamble, they like being afraid of losing a big amount of money and they like to win big prizes. But gambling is not a less steady income haven than trading, it's the same thing.
I support this too, income from trading and gambling cannot be made into stable income because dealing with big risks every time, so it is very important for everyone to just make both of them as a sideline or just entertainment

some people who are diagnosed as gambling addicts will not easily change because all they have in mind is to continue gambling, they no longer think of gambling as their stable income
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would you use a VPN on a casino, even if it is not allowed in their ToS? on: June 12, 2023, 12:02:58 PM
Bad is to use VPN but the worst is to use VPN and at the same time trying to cheat the casino one way or the other it will lead to an immediate ban since you are already committing double offences, there is no doubt that some casinos may look away from the use of VPN even though is mentioned in their TOS that VPN usage is not allowed but then casino are looking for money after all because VPN usage has nothing to affect the casino unless for regulators who restrict the casino access in their jurisdiction.
There are strong and weak VPN so we just need to use a very strong one that can aid our activities on the casino that we intend using. There are many people I know from China that trading cryptocurrency and doing NFT using a very strong VPN and the government never knows about it. There are even more restricted sites that are being accessed with the use of VPN. If we are using a good VPN, we might not have any problem with access with many if these sites that might have restrictions. One major challenge may be we might not use big funds with the casino big risk it might pose.
in really urgent conditions, using a VPN is the only way but you need to remind that it would be better to ask the CS of the gambling site you want to play first, besides that paid VPNs have good features and the majority of paid VPN users don't  have problems opening the site they want
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: June 12, 2023, 11:10:13 AM
Yeah, their desire for the trophies are going to be tougher with competition is increased and things are looking not easy many clubs are having big investments which are going to help them for having better results but here Tottenham is surely also needs change into their strategy and finances as well if they want to win trophy specially after end of Antonio Conte it's looking more hard for them to have any positive result in near future and if they lost Harry Kane which is looking possible than it's end of hopes.
if you look at the rumors that are spreading it seems that Tottenham will lose next season because several teams have offered a bigger salary for Kane and for me Tottenham don't need to think too much about holding Harry Kane but at least Tottenham have to think about increasing their finances to get some new players who can dominate stronger team.
If selling Harry Kane earns more to buy a few players for me that would be better than having to keep one player and not knowing if I can get a trophy in the summer.
Many media are currently discussing Kane's future, but until now no one has managed to guess what Kane was thinking.  I applaud the loyalty Kane has shown to Tottenham but that is not enough, however Kane is a great striker, he has to be in the right team, and hopefully next season, he will move on from Tottenham
13  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: [info] Bagi yang memiliki dana di Binance, segera pindahkan dalam waktu dekat. on: June 12, 2023, 09:54:39 AM
Yang di tuntut oleh sec adalah binance us. Namun hal itu saya kira tidak akan mampu mempengaruhi binance global karena sec belakangan ini melakukan tuduhan mereka kepada binance us. Namun selain itu hal yang baik untuk di ingat adalah bukan kunci anda bukan crypto anda jadi waspada boleh dan jangan panik dengan situasi ini. Ada baiknya sih tarik aja aset anda ke wallet sendiri apalagi yang menerapkan investasi dalam jangka panjang tentu sangat bijak menahannya di wallet sendiri. kita tidak ingin melihat hal serupa terjadi lagi atau terulang kembali seperti kasus ftx. Kita ikuti saja drama ini karena saya pikir binance global dan binance us akan melawan sec di pengadilan nanti.
sudah kelihatan sejak awal tentang intimidasi yang di lakukan oleh SEC ini terhadap binance USA namun untung saja dampaknya tidak sampai ke binance global

saya terus memantau kabar dari binance ini krna tokocrypto adalah salah satu anak usaha binance, saya khawatir tentang dana saya di sana
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season on: June 11, 2023, 09:39:00 PM
And what will we see from PSG in the coming year? Mbappe has said that his next step would be to play for Real Madrid? I think Mbappe may never do that again at all. Only the only big problem Mbappe has is that he will not face any opposition in the cometition in France. So he can really only enjoy his level when he plays in the CL. Then you really should go to Italy or England. Spain is qualitatively a size below it. But I don't see an Mbappe in England happening anytime soon. Haaland and Mbappe together in the striker at Manchester City would not be bad.  Grin
I think if we want to discuss PSG then it would be better to discuss that only in the ligue 1 thread lol

the team that won the UCL is a strong team that is certainly coached by great coaches like pep guardiola while the PSG coach is galtier so I see that for quality, man city is much better, next season we will see man city which is getting more fierce even though it's not there's a new player they bought
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: A Nigerian Father Rejects Son's Gambling Win on: June 11, 2023, 09:03:03 PM
Besides, these articles sometimes to have the full story, maybe the man is a religious man and gambling is something that might be frowned upon and was trying to stick to his principles....whatever it is, give it time, the son will explain himself and they will find a way to agree on how to receive the monetary gift.
In this case, reading the whole story, one thing is clearly understood, except for the father, the other members of the boy's family are interested in keeping the money won by the bet. But the boy's father is not agreeing to spend his gambling money for the benefit of the family for some religious reasons. If you look at the boy's older brother's post, they only told the netizens that the gambling money is with his family should be spent. Moreover, the boy's mother is willing to spend the gambling money with the family because the boy's family still owes two months of house rent. If the boy spends the gambling money for family purposes, then his family will have a great life in the future.
the man is actually teaching his son that the winnings from gambling are money that cannot be used for food because according to religion that must be done while the child does not understand the intentions and goals of their father, however I respect his father because that is his principles as a man and a responsible father
16  Local / Ekonomi, Politik, dan Budaya / Re: Apakah Indonesia harus mengikuti saran Bank Dunia on: June 11, 2023, 08:47:52 PM
bu sri mulyani kan dah bilang jadi yang miskin nambah jadi 40%, otomatis bansos jadi nambah, yang imbasnya ke APBN #CMIIW , APBN boncos otomatis berbagai sektor terpengaruh, kalau yang kena sektor ekonomi ya wassalam. bu sri mulyani dah faham betul apa tugas dia, kita serahkan aja semua kebijakan sama yang berkuasa sekarang aja. awam seperti ane sih mending pakai yang 30k aja dulu, biar bansos untuk masyarakt menengah kebawah tidak membludak.
Bukan paham tapi pemerintah gagal dalam mengurangi kemiskinan di indonesia.  Sejak rezim ini mereka tidak mampu menurun angka kemiskinan malah mengalami kenaikan terutama di Jawa Tengah, Ini menjadi provinsi termiskin Ke kedua sepulau Jawa belum lagi di provinsi lain. Ini masih menggunakan data BPS saja pemerintah gagal, apalagi menggunkan data dunia. Kemiskinan rakyat indonesia sebetulnya hampir setiap hari menjadi pembicaraan dimasyarakat, hampir sebagian besar dikalangan masyarakat merasakan kesulitan ekonomi yang parah. tapi mungkin pemerintah buta dan tuli dengan kondisi masyarakat sebenarnya yang memprihatinkan. Ini karena banyak pejabat yang tidak amanah, koruptor masih banyak dilindungi oleh negara. 25% APBN dikorupsi, itu sudah cukup buat bikin rakyat jadi miskin dan saya yakin APBN yang dikorup lebih dari itu, sedangkan kasus korupsi yang diproses paling cuma 1%.

Sebenarnya serba salah sih Kalau ikuti anjuran bank dunia artinya Indonesia akan diturunkan kembali menjadi digolongkan Negara Berkembang. Hal ini pasti berdampak besar lagi bagi beban belanja negara dalam bentuk subsidi kepada masyarakat yang masuk DTKS serta memperkecil peluang kepercayaan Negara G-20 dan G-7.
kalo di bilang rezim sih saya kurang setuju gan, karena rezim identik dengan kekejaman seperti yang di lakukan oleh hitler atau kimjongun namun memang pemerintah hingga sekarang belum juga bertindak seca efektif dalam mengatasi kemiskinan

indonesia sangta membutuhkan pemipin yang tegas dan bijaksana dalam mengelola SDM & SDA indonesia sehingga tingkat kemiskinan bisa berkurang drastis sehingga pemerintah tidak takut lagi dalam menaikkan batas ambang kemiskinan sesuai arahan dari bank dunia
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who takes over Manchester United ? on: June 11, 2023, 08:13:23 PM
With the sale of Manchester United imminent, who do you think would be the preferred bidder between, British billionaire Sir Jim Ratcliffe and Qatar billionaire Sheikh Jassim?

 My odds are that Sheikh would win the bid and take fully control of Manchester United.

 However i feel the glaziers are reluctant to sell, due to the prolonged rounds of bidding and they're doing so to avoid much spending in the upcoming transfer window.
man utd is a successful team that was built by the glazer family and until now sudha has hundreds of fans around the world reportedly are the most fans so even up to the 10th bid, sheikh jassim will not be able to buy man utd

the glazer family really takes good care of man utd and reportedly will never sell man utd to anyone at any time
18  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Sedekah ke Pengemis on: June 10, 2023, 09:36:04 PM
Ga ngeri lagi gan, tapi udah pantes bawa pajero kalo penghasilan segitu. Tapi logis si dapet segitu. Coba hitung-hitungan: 1 menit lampu merah dapat 3rb, berarti 1 jam itu 60x3rb=180.000. dan kalo mereka stay selama 5jam aja, 5x180.000=900.000. Mantap kali kan gan? yuk dicoba.... Siapa tau kan bisa beli pajero...wkwk
namun apakah mereka bisa membeli pajero gan, setahu saya orang2 seperti ini (badut, manusia silver atau pengemis) memiliki kecanduan seperti narkoba, judi atau lainnya sehingga uang yang mereka dapat tidak pernah terkumpul malah banyak yang ketagihan hidup menjadi peminta minta

saya sarankan untuk tidak mencoba menjadi seperti mereka karena masa depan nya tidak terhormat
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: June 10, 2023, 08:56:33 PM
They should change that mindset and quit right away before they lose control and end up placing another bet. They can expect to win big but also have to admit that it is not easy to get and they might lose all their money, especially if they intend to recover previous losses where it will be even more difficult. The pattern "high risk, high reward, but we need to be wise before deciding" is something that must be owned so that we realize that gambling is just entertainment and nothing more. Don't chase something from gambling but let it come alone while you just want to enjoy gambling.
In order to avoid more severe addiction, you really have to change your mindset in a more positive way, acknowledging that gambling is not a place to gain profit except for luck.
from a positive mindset a gambler will definitely gamble casually without any pressure even though losing never has the intention to chase that loss. so gamblers who already have a mindset like that certainly can't become crazy gambling addicts and are usually calmer and usually always get small luck.
i think you cannot change the mind and attitude of people around. Living and dealing with different people is not an easy task and deal with gamblers is not an easy task though.
because we cannot change the other people around us, we must change ourselves (what I mean is changing our environment by moving or something like that)

whatever happens in your life is something that can still be changed from the start, so improve your environment by seeking a healthy environment from various types of criminals and bad people from an early age
20  Local / Topik Lainnya / Re: Kenapa Banyak yang Sering Ganti Sigcam Bayaran BTC on: June 08, 2023, 06:43:15 PM
Kalo lancar dan tiap minggu dapat bayaran dari signature sepertinya sudah kayak kerja real yak. Terjamin tiap minggunya ada pemasukan. Apalagi rank-rank papan atas, bikin ngiler... Selama ini pada lancar-lancar semua kan gan? kayaknya bayaran signature selalu tepat waktu dan tidak terdapat masalah yang berarti dalam bayarannya.
Selama ini lancar, tapi ane ga yakin bisa jadi penghasilan jangka panjang, kek sampai pensiun gt. Makanya jadikan sumber penghasilan sementara saja untuk mendukung proyek/usaha yang agan punya.
benar gan, meskipun tidak ada yang tahu apa yang bakal terjadi di masa depan namun untuk para partisipan kampanye sgnature harus bisa menjadikan ini sebagai side hustle saja, bukan sebagai penghasilan utama karena ketika ada terjadi hal yang tak terduga maka sudah memiliki opsi alternatif (untuk sekedar bertahan atau beneran meninggalkan forum ini)
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