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161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FOR] Force Network - Internet. Redefined. - WP - mn/nn/pos on: April 05, 2018, 05:50:31 AM
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162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Network Attack on XVG / VERGE on: April 04, 2018, 07:07:46 PM
Posted here for reference as the other Topic is self-moderated and this will probably get deleted:

There's currently a >51% attack going on on XVG which exploits a bug in retargeting in the XVG code.

Usually to successfully mine XVG blocks, every "next" block must be of a different algo.. so for example scrypt,then x17, then lyra etc.

Due to several bugs in the XVG code, you can exploit this feature by mining blocks with a spoofed timestamp. When you submit a mined block (as a malicious miner or pool) you simply
set a false timestamp to this block one hour ago and XVG will then "think" the last block mined on that algo was one hour ago.. Your next block, the subsequent block
will then have the correct time.. And since it's already an hour ago (at least that is what the network thinks) it will allow this block to be added to the main chain as well.

This is what is going on since about 06:00 UTC of 04.04.2018:

Code:
SetBestChain: new best=00000000049c2d3329a3  height=2009406  trust=2009407  date=04/04/18 13:50:09
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000a307b54dfcf  height=2009407  trust=2009408  date=04/04/18 12:16:51
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000196f03f5727e  height=2009408  trust=2009409  date=04/04/18 13:50:10
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000010b42973b6ec  height=2009409  trust=2009410  date=04/04/18 12:16:52
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000e0655294c73  height=2009410  trust=2009411  date=04/04/18 12:16:53
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000013490372b825  height=2009411  trust=2009412  date=04/04/18 12:16:54
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000017192ea8924b  height=2009412  trust=2009413  date=04/04/18 13:50:13
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000007f75f237b3b  height=2009413  trust=2009414  date=04/04/18 12:16:55
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000006ecb5753261  height=2009414  trust=2009415  date=04/04/18 13:50:14
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000019eb5bfd2f76  height=2009415  trust=2009416  date=04/04/18 12:16:56
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000018d5b80c0ee9  height=2009416  trust=2009417  date=04/04/18 13:50:15
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000159ca0701894  height=2009417  trust=2009418  date=04/04/18 12:16:57
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000ad1a8cd6b44  height=2009418  trust=2009419  date=04/04/18 13:50:16
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001002986218fc  height=2009419  trust=2009420  date=04/04/18 12:16:58
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000b58e4fed470  height=2009420  trust=2009421  date=04/04/18 13:50:17
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000d9f0707d83f  height=2009421  trust=2009422  date=04/04/18 12:16:59
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000007283d98dbb0  height=2009422  trust=2009423  date=04/04/18 12:17:00
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000002ec7b8a6e80  height=2009423  trust=2009424  date=04/04/18 12:17:01
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001f359a8f2f4a  height=2009424  trust=2009425  date=04/04/18 13:50:20
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000293a6723940  height=2009425  trust=2009426  date=04/04/18 12:17:02
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001397927ec69d  height=2009426  trust=2009427  date=04/04/18 13:50:21
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000efb6e062c02  height=2009427  trust=2009428  date=04/04/18 12:17:03
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001e181a0d0f4a  height=2009428  trust=2009429  date=04/04/18 13:50:22
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000008ca5848691b  height=2009429  trust=2009430  date=04/04/18 12:17:04
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000066a216ac27b  height=2009430  trust=2009431  date=04/04/18 13:50:23
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001874a45f28c7  height=2009431  trust=2009432  date=04/04/18 12:17:05
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000005bc0408b8ca  height=2009432  trust=2009433  date=04/04/18 13:50:24
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000005feb2b45e5d  height=2009433  trust=2009434  date=04/04/18 12:17:06
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000000c211ba04de  height=2009434  trust=2009435  date=04/04/18 12:17:07
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001402dc20ae5f  height=2009435  trust=2009436  date=04/04/18 12:17:08
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001e73181cf91c  height=2009436  trust=2009437  date=04/04/18 13:50:27
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000062720b222ea  height=2009437  trust=2009438  date=04/04/18 12:17:09
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000e10aeecf7f1  height=2009438  trust=2009439  date=04/04/18 13:50:28
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000b41ab258a8f  height=2009439  trust=2009440  date=04/04/18 12:17:10
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001136b924f67b  height=2009440  trust=2009441  date=04/04/18 13:50:29
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000a1c1af529cd  height=2009441  trust=2009442  date=04/04/18 12:17:11
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000007f1d1f8d921  height=2009442  trust=2009443  date=04/04/18 13:50:30
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000ca0a1bc6b0e  height=2009443  trust=2009444  date=04/04/18 12:17:12
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000003075b7a580  height=2009444  trust=2009445  date=04/04/18 13:50:31
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001c9f43fd7305  height=2009445  trust=2009446  date=04/04/18 12:17:13
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000009129b024a  height=2009446  trust=2009447  date=04/04/18 12:17:14
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000008e180f24f15  height=2009447  trust=2009448  date=04/04/18 12:17:15
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000084eb6c59c6d  height=2009448  trust=2009449  date=04/04/18 13:50:34
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000d8510f41c9a  height=2009449  trust=2009450  date=04/04/18 12:17:16
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000011df91a1ab87  height=2009450  trust=2009451  date=04/04/18 13:50:35
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001ba92e976854  height=2009451  trust=2009452  date=04/04/18 12:17:17
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000364bf981384  height=2009452  trust=2009453  date=04/04/18 13:50:36
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000012d88fa3db27  height=2009453  trust=2009454  date=04/04/18 12:17:18
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000305cd62b1f2  height=2009454  trust=2009455  date=04/04/18 13:50:37
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000011300c4f86cb  height=2009455  trust=2009456  date=04/04/18 12:17:19
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000001487b026dd4  height=2009456  trust=2009457  date=04/04/18 13:50:38
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000001c8532ef2df  height=2009457  trust=2009458  date=04/04/18 12:17:20
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001c17ae6efeeb  height=2009458  trust=2009459  date=04/04/18 12:17:21
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000002bf168f5eab  height=2009459  trust=2009460  date=04/04/18 12:17:22
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001a23e2c283bc  height=2009460  trust=2009461  date=04/04/18 13:50:41
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000014ecd97066c4  height=2009461  trust=2009462  date=04/04/18 12:17:23
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001643a1c4a3bb  height=2009462  trust=2009463  date=04/04/18 13:50:42
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000008ec0214e6c2  height=2009463  trust=2009464  date=04/04/18 12:17:24
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000009b069fcd1cc  height=2009464  trust=2009465  date=04/04/18 13:50:43
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001722adbca417  height=2009465  trust=2009466  date=04/04/18 12:17:25
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000a9e8d58c86b  height=2009466  trust=2009467  date=04/04/18 13:50:44
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000010f27ab0a452  height=2009467  trust=2009468  date=04/04/18 12:17:26
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000479c982db76  height=2009468  trust=2009469  date=04/04/18 13:50:45
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001f8be1b4066c  height=2009469  trust=2009470  date=04/04/18 12:17:27
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000b05233d5ad7  height=2009470  trust=2009471  date=04/04/18 12:17:28
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000007a9c6cdba5d  height=2009471  trust=2009472  date=04/04/18 12:17:29
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000622e29e4307  height=2009472  trust=2009473  date=04/04/18 13:50:48
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001a8d80324a57  height=2009473  trust=2009474  date=04/04/18 12:17:30
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001eddc0154526  height=2009474  trust=2009475  date=04/04/18 13:50:49
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000ac0a256f263  height=2009475  trust=2009476  date=04/04/18 12:17:31
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000040f83b5ee2f  height=2009476  trust=2009477  date=04/04/18 13:50:50
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001827966aa60b  height=2009477  trust=2009478  date=04/04/18 12:17:32
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000012d0d1501121  height=2009478  trust=2009479  date=04/04/18 13:50:51
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000032868a4c74  height=2009479  trust=2009480  date=04/04/18 12:17:33
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000092675395f6e  height=2009480  trust=2009481  date=04/04/18 13:50:52
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001f95a9a174d4  height=2009481  trust=2009482  date=04/04/18 12:17:34
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000017503fc3dc13  height=2009482  trust=2009483  date=04/04/18 12:17:35
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000007c61b36c76  height=2009483  trust=2009484  date=04/04/18 12:17:36
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000070810d5a6e5  height=2009484  trust=2009485  date=04/04/18 13:50:55
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000068467683637  height=2009485  trust=2009486  date=04/04/18 12:17:37
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000041dc83f0978  height=2009486  trust=2009487  date=04/04/18 13:50:56
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000011fb17203f4  height=2009487  trust=2009488  date=04/04/18 12:17:38
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000a96b38de1a0  height=2009488  trust=2009489  date=04/04/18 13:50:57
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000121e7a285719  height=2009489  trust=2009490  date=04/04/18 12:17:39
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000348e668204f  height=2009490  trust=2009491  date=04/04/18 13:50:58
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000012766d85cab4  height=2009491  trust=2009492  date=04/04/18 12:17:40
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000181a0c1be275  height=2009492  trust=2009493  date=04/04/18 13:50:59
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000015c05593e210  height=2009493  trust=2009494  date=04/04/18 12:17:41
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000719cb24d9c0  height=2009494  trust=2009495  date=04/04/18 12:17:42
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000015d9b853834d  height=2009495  trust=2009496  date=04/04/18 12:17:43
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000115e68a6d447  height=2009496  trust=2009497  date=04/04/18 13:51:02
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000004d9233f19c6  height=2009497  trust=2009498  date=04/04/18 12:17:44
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000141ab049fe19  height=2009498  trust=2009499  date=04/04/18 13:51:03
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001b91344fa33c  height=2009499  trust=2009500  date=04/04/18 12:17:45
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=0000000001d112440f7b  height=2009500  trust=2009501  date=04/04/18 13:51:04
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000001bf2c8a073c6  height=2009501  trust=2009502  date=04/04/18 12:17:46
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000116863c0157c  height=2009502  trust=2009503  date=04/04/18 13:51:05
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000ec5da17852e  height=2009503  trust=2009504  date=04/04/18 12:17:47
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=000000000d7cd87c5e53  height=2009504  trust=2009505  date=04/04/18 13:51:06
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)
--
SetBestChain: new best=00000000156becbf42cd  height=2009505  trust=2009506  date=04/04/18 12:17:48
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED (scrypt)


As you can see in the text above, those blocks are all subsequent, so one miner gets them all and you see there's 90 min difference between all the blocks, thats one bug the miner is
exploiting. You also see the correct time is the latter time.. so the last block ended on 13:51:06 and the block before was 12:17:47 and the block with the correct time before that one
was at 13:51:05 .. That means the hacker is mining one block per second !

The vergeDEV @ Discord says "everything is okay - there's nothing to fix"..

Since about 99% blocks by legit pools are rejected - and the dev team is not able to understand this problem, i'm closing and removing all VERGE pools from suprnova.


Here's a incomplete list of the malicious addresses:

https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DKE3tKrXJJ2s7nCPYtE5vntBKBZKGLb2kB
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DBbZgu2eeZfxdUiqtf1dbG3H5kExDTqzCM
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DTnxUQ476HWeSqm5hct2astEp2EB8BQBMD
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DMK8aqjFGUNVQibv7i3qu4pyUyXcnSHHcC
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DN4rx2gKm7Lepa6kyZx62zJtWVLAxNBc15
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DFSnNgjEyYkfDVJGR8BG2LdFLYbJgdtFRa
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DAf5YdtmvTaq2gySAPtfPzv86jC9nGY1RR
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/DUCtin38xfPWvLvkAtWMJoUDefg3mu1rYQ
https://verge-blockchain.info/address/D5Gz63joDNteuMJSMuiD153hQHPN626ryw

From what I see there are a lot more


this shows the incompetence of the XVG developers.
Myriadcoin had these type of attacks years ago on their multialgo so there is a fix out there Wink


Buy XSH XDDDDDDDD
163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SEM] Semux - Official Thread - Airdrop to ETH holders soon 🚀 🚀 🚀 on: April 01, 2018, 05:34:07 PM
I'm really glad I came in really really early for this one Cheesy
164  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Cartel Reason for Bitcoin Dump on: April 01, 2018, 01:55:05 PM
The miners and development team at Bitcoin are part of the cartel as many developers already know
who have not sold themselves out to the bankers.
of course bankers can pump and dump and no one can stop them now they own the
development team too.

I saw this article more than days ago, and it was pretty interesting. i came out looking for a lot of information and it seriously make sense.

Well, i think that the price of each bitcoin will drop a lot during the upcoming days, or even weeks.. i am sure that we all are gonna make a very good profit if we buy at the bottom.



This "paper" lacks of sources and what is and should remain an assumption is written down as a fact. This is nowere near to be serious.
165  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Cartel Reason for Bitcoin Dump on: April 01, 2018, 01:54:09 PM
Cartels are not a problem, they are just a FUD. All these events mentioned in it cant be planned. You can't make all the countries of the world, obey to your plans. Below is the link of whole Fud article.

https://medium.com/@super.crypto1/4th-dimension-bitcoin-manipulation-cartel-can-it-be-burnt-no-way-c53de65c166a

It does not matter if this is true or not, but the problem is that this article is too much popular now and since people are looking for a reason to find the price drop, these type of articles take the popularity. And above all, they bring more panic in the market.  Sad

Agreed. As usual, people aren't sharing deep thoughts and ideas, they're sharing emotional reactions. This isn't good if we want to think straight about possibilities and solutions.
166  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are Cartel Reason for Bitcoin Dump on: April 01, 2018, 01:51:33 PM
This "paper" is too much shared. There is probably price manipulation and whales coordinated attacks but I dislike the way this thing it written. It's sensationalist and it's heavenly lacking of facts and serious analysis. If, and I say if, we're suffering price supression, this topic have to be seriously investigated and I wouldn't call myself a data analyst by showing four charts. Hell with those charts I could even write down an article pretending the aliens are among us and Trump is pepe.

I tend to think people who came in arond 10k and before 20k are had too much expectations. They probably don't even know what Bitcoin is about and they don't care about how blockchain can change their daily life, so now they're dumping in panic, dramatically increasing the weight of anykind of manipulation happening around anyway.
167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FOR] Force - Decentralized internet - WHITEPAPER release on 31st March! on: April 01, 2018, 09:45:39 AM
We don't see often no ICO coins coming out with something really interesting & new Smiley Just wait guys, this is just the begining Smiley
168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [$XVG] VERGE [POW][MultiAlgo][BLACKHOLE][Entire Line of TOR/i2P Resources] on: March 31, 2018, 08:39:23 PM
So no big news it seems ?!?!

besides the huge upcoming news, that everyone is talking about.. on discord/telegrame/something else.
and only slightly mentioned here...

I don't know why is always the same sh** with XVG, drama, drama, drama.
Same thing happens when they were announcing wraith !
Then supporters get mad and throw XVG, I hope this will not happen again

The secret is just to deliver in time. By being professional you'll avoid drama.... It's absolutely impossible to build trust otherwise.
169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][FOR] 🚀Force - The protocol token to decentralize internet🚀 MASTERNODES on: March 31, 2018, 07:33:00 PM
This coin seems dead. No volume, no news, no explain from DEVs.
RIP investors

Thanks for your quality input. https://www.forcenetwork.io/
170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 27, 2018, 06:19:26 PM
Congrats for CMC dudes !
171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 26, 2018, 11:46:02 AM
Stipend best coin!

The price is tanking and they haven't even considered telling the exchange to suspend trading to protect the community. You think these scammers really care about anything other than the price of the coin and eventually dumping to get as much money as possible.

Suspend the trading ? Congrats, you reached a brand new level in the great history of trolling. This coin have a team working on a use case and so far there is no scam. Deal with it.
172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 02:53:22 PM
You're still frustrated ? Newbie account with no activity and so much fud, you're obviously dishonest. Plus the price isn't tanking.

You know nothing about their infrastructure and its cost so the number you're throwing out of your pants mean basically nothing. Since you don't know about their infrastructure and long / short term strategies, the operational cost you're talking about is hard to evaluate precisely, and you perfectly know it. You're saying it can't function and yet you proved nothing. This is demagogy and all your questions have been answered on Discord and again : you got banned from Discord because you came up and asked a question and the community couldn't answer.

People told you to just ask in the right channel where all the questions are collected in order to prepare the dev weekly update where the team is (weekly) answering to all the important questions and concerns with details and profesionalism. You kept asking the, exact, same, question, for more than one hour, ending by saying since the devs weren't putting things his way, they were idiot and the project were worthless. This was plein and annoying fud, and if I were moderating there I couldn't have awaited one hour to kick your ass out and clear our space.
173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 09:10:54 AM
Everything is scam, it`s ok, where is the problem?  Grin
I got enough profit with SPD and willn`t cry if/when it would scam. As for me - it`s normal, as for you - or, i don`t care how it for you  Grin

Exactly. And if it's not a scam (which I believe, I think it's real) it's even more money for us. So, why these guys are complaining ?
174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:36:19 AM
Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace


Because initially I only asked very reasonable question. And I was banned for it because the devs couldn't give a real answer. And still can't, which is one that should have been thought of first before anything else. "How will they become profitable with such low fees and still manage to pay for operational cost". At this point even if they answer it can't be more than smoke and mirrors because a question like that should have been able to be answered without much thought as it should be the crux of the project.

You're still frustrated ? Your questions have been answered on Discord and again : you got banned from Discord because you came up and asked a question and the community couldn't answer. People told you to just ask in the right channel where all the questions are collected in order to prepare the dev weekly update where the team is (weekly) answering to all the important questions and concerns with details and profesionalism. You kept asking the, exact, same, question, for more than one hour, ending by saying since the devs weren't putting things his way, they were idiot and the project were worthless. This was plein and annoying fud, and if I were moderating there I couldn't have awaited one hour to kick your ass out and clear our space.
175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:30:46 AM
Sorry to say but last 3-6 pages is boring as hell.

I can understand crayzy88 looking out for fellow citizens in not getting burnt in false scam projects but i dont think your helping anyone tbh!

If i was a new investor in this coin, reading all what ur saying wont put me off it entices me to get into the project more

In the last 2 Months :

I payed 3.6 BTC for Bithold in auction for MN and devs have left now and flogged us to with a one in a lifetime deal of 12:1 numus.
I payed 1.6 BTC for Moneybags in auction for MN now worth 0.00990 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.9 BTC for CBS in auction for MN now worth 0.01108 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 2.6 BTC for ADV in auction for MN now worth 0.01249 BTC ( No devs nothing arround )
I payed 1.5 BTC for Race in auction for MN now worth 0.00770 BTC ( No devs no Discord nothing arround )

The list goes ON and ON. Why aint u in any of them 100's of discords or threads trying to save peoples hard earned cash?? this is one of the only masternode coins released in the last 3 months that is actually working and your here with your mate past 4 pages wasting your time.

In the last 6 weeks I have made my investment back with another 2 masternodes pumping coins everyday. So even if it went to 10 cents like u say what have i actually lost?

Just get on with your life m8 and dont worry about others too much, everyones got internet these days they can do there own research and make up there own minds.

Peace


At this point I even tend to think the guy got paid to fud -_-

Like if we were dumb and in need for him to know how to invest or not.
176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:28:48 AM
As I said, we got your point, I even gave you exemples on Discord, now move on. We're all adult.


You didn't give me anything or anyone anything. The theme for this project seems to be (When you don't have an answer, say you already answered it)

explain how this analogy isn't true for Stipend

It's amazing that people are investing in a company without asking and getting a clearly detailed explanation of how a company they are investing in intends to become profitable. I could say today I am starting an airline and we will collect only 3% of what other airlines charge for tickets. And while that idea may sound great initially, in practice it is impossible because the operational cost are too high, it's the exact same with this project. It sounds great but in reality it can't function with it's current promises


You know nothing about their infrastructure and its cost so the number you're throwing out of your pants mean basically nothing. Since you don't know about their infrastructure and long / short term strategies, the operational cost you're talking about is hard to evaluate precisely, and you perfectly know it. You're saying it can't function and yet you proved nothing. This is demagogy and we're all tired of this. Your getting paranoid at this point.
177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:19:18 AM
This is a great idea. I hope your team will make this idea a great success. How does POW and POS workout together?

Waht do you mean by how ? The rewards splitting or the tech ?
178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:17:54 AM
As I said, we got your point, I even gave you exemples on Discord, now move on. We're all adult.
179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:04:08 AM
For god sake, get a life .. you're a cancer.

Yes, I am proud to be cancer to scam projects.

Okay we got your point and we're all adults here. I don't think this project is a scam and I think they'll deliver since they already did. I saw many scammy ones and you can make a tremendous amount of BTC without working as they do. So what will be next, ALQO is a scam too ? Wait and see, and stop acting like a sweating ass.

I don't care what you think. If you don't want to believe me then just hold your coins and wait until they realize there is no work around for the obvious operational impasses. At that point they will dump all their coins and move onto the next project just as they did with their last project, Sigil.

I am waiting for the answers to your questions also. Crypto community is getting packed with a bunch of emotional people. When people come and ask legitimate questions, the coin-cult-members start hurling insults.
We will see if they are answered in the weekly update tomorrow.

Come on Discord, the questions have been answered (you can scroll up, the detailed answer is there) and they'll be adressed on the dev weekly update anyway.
180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SPD][BOUNTIES:ON] PoW/PoS/Masternode - Stipend - The Freelancer's Currency on: March 25, 2018, 12:03:37 AM
Your questions have been answered on Discord and again : you got banned from Discord because you came up and asked a question and the community couldn't answer. People told you to just ask in the right channel where all the questions are collected in order to prepare the dev weekly update where the team is (weekly) answering to all the important questions and concerns with details and profesionalism. You kept asking the, exact, same, question, for more than one hour, ending by saying since the devs weren't putting things his way, they were idiot and the project were worthless. This was plein and annoying fud, and if I were moderating there I couldn't have awaited one hour to kick your ass out and clear our space. You're a little harmless fudder trying to get people's attention, trying to heal your little fragile ego or trying to get in for cheap, and this is getting pathetic and ridiculous. Go get a life, work, make love, be happy but stop waisting people's time. This place is made for sharing facts, we're all getting tired of your useless wall of text full of egotrip and false informations.
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