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41  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 20, 2018, 11:09:42 PM

yeah, i have registered on bitshares.org and im not able to deposit EGEM. did i miss something?
Please read trade.egem.io 
42  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 17, 2018, 06:49:05 PM
No premine is a good catch but I feel the name (EtherGem) might make it to be in the shadow of Ethereum.

Also what number of transactions can Ethergem do compared to Ethereum?


Honestly with our plan it has to be tested first. We will not speculate until testing is completed.
43  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 08, 2018, 08:01:10 PM
That was only in off topic due to the amount of spam invites it was getting... everything is open in discord.
44  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 07, 2018, 08:41:38 PM
Sure, the Team is on Discord https://discord.gg/39WGWRB
45  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 04, 2018, 11:57:17 AM

Explorer down at  https://explorer.egem.io/
should be back now.. may need to sync
46  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 04, 2018, 06:56:36 AM
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what pool url

http://egem.firepool.ru/

The pool may need to re-pull https://github.com/TeamEGEM/open-egem-pool
47  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 04, 2018, 01:27:41 AM
Guys, pool goes down, something about payouts. Check out too!

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Payments suspended due to last critical error: Not enough balance for payment, need 901146204753000000000 Wei, pool has 847514602375000000000 Wei

about 3 egem on the block...

what pool url
48  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 【ANN】【PIRL】【PoW ETH Masternode Asic Resistant】 ►► NO PREMINE - NO ICO ◀◀ on: April 03, 2018, 12:05:20 PM
Okay. Here's the bug detail: your network contains the 72 millions premine from the original Ethereum blockchain. You can confirm the bug in many ways.

Look into the Ethereum premine addresses. For example, the EthDev premine address 0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9 which contains 12 million coins on both blockchain.

EGEM: https://explorer.egem.io/addr/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9
PIRL: https://poseidon.pirl.io/explorer/address/0x5abfec25f74cd88437631a7731906932776356f9/

Now have fun.

https://pirl.io/blog/thoughts-news-ethereum-asic-miners/

So the no premine, ASIC resistant coin has a premine and is welcoming ASICs. Sold all my PIRL.

Someone make an ETH like coin with masternodes, attempt at some privacy features, and better ASIC resistance.


Maybe I jumped the gun too quick, but I've seen enough in crypto that anything stinks I cash out first and ask questions later.

This might not have been an intentional premine, a mistake from original ETH genesis block. it's still a huge problem if 12 million coins are out there with the original ETH developers having the same key.
Greetings from EGEM. I made the devs aware as soon as that person announced on our thread. I have confidence in the team here in Pirl and they are correcting the issue.
49  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 03, 2018, 06:34:50 AM
IF ethhacker wanted to report the bug without spreading 'FUD' then he would have privately contacted the tbates n riddlez privately.  the fact that he tried, TRIIIED, to make a big deal out of it and making big post crying about how 'scammy' the coin is only proves the insecurity of the individual.  Some one with this type if knowledge and 'dev skills' doesnt have a bitcointalk account wiht only 14 post.  cmon.  you think were dumb?  go pound sand FUD man

Really?  More obfuscation?  Trying to discredit the whistle blower? 

Did you miss the part where the block chain was relaunched because of the info he provided, which you know, being a low "dev skills" kinda guy with only 14 posts (fine by me if that's how you decide to measure competence, but w/e), still found an obvious and easily avoidable bug in the code.  That little fact already proved he's better than the whole dev team put together.  It's just that much worse for the team if he's actually low skilled. 

I agree with you that the way he approached the team wasn't all flowers and champagne, but this whole thing could've been avoided if you were just able to put aside your undeservedly large egos for a moment and take in a healthy dose of reality. 
Now you think everyone that replys is part of the team. The person above is a member of this community.

From this point forward I will not reply to any more posts about etherhacker. If there are any  bug reports please email info@egem.io 

Also we welcome anyone to join our discord chat here https://discord.gg/gvExwDY or on telegram @EGEM_Team   The team is very active/helpful within Discord    We have many things planned and will be releasing info in discord first.
50  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 08:19:01 PM
No need to thank me. I just wanted to post my observations. For now EGEM looks like a good project at least from a point of view of how it is run with the community. I cannot comment on code quality as I did not check it at all.

To me it just seems that there is a lot of personal involment here and that is regretable. But that is us humans always measuring our egos Smiley. Well I do hope that the project is a sucess.

And my advice to both parties. Nothing good ever comes out of hate and vengance. Please do try to act in the best way to benefit the community and settle the differences. Meet in a private channel and discuss the issues. Nothign is ever so serious that cannot be solved. Trust me.

Good luck to all.
sound advice
51  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 08:06:12 PM
Wow the drama. Lol.

Well I am following them on Discord and for now I can say they act very friendly professional and they are there to help people. And that is what matter. We all make mistakes, but they corrected theirs in a correct way. So I will keep on mining, because it seems like an interesting project.

Just my 2 cents.
thank you, we are on discord quite often. If anyone has questions or if the other coders watching this drama have any input, please drop by.  https://discord.gg/gvExwDY
52  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 06:53:31 PM
I thought you were done talking....

better make sure to do it more damaging than posting in the ANN jokeboy

You can't try to revert to be professional now that your terrorist tactics are already deployed...


Not only are you incompetent at coding, you are also bad at telling people apart by "language patterns".  While they both seem to be non native English speakers, the etherhacker guy is  angrier and doesn't mind getting his hands dirty.  while Ellaismer always tried to stay above the fray.  You even said it yourself, Ellaismer acts like a school teacher, man, even when you know the answer, you still screw it up.  You have so much hate for the guy that you try so hard to pin the blame on him, but everyone else can see that you just didn't do your homework right and your egos just can't let you own up to it like an adult.  How do you expect your coin to make it while he team got the basics so wrong, and aren't equipped with the procedure or the professionalism to handle one bug.  The next one, if etherhacker decides he wants time the release to do real damage, is going to sink your coin. 

And now just like before, when you have no sound arguments, you resort to personal attacks, calling him a terrorist.  Over whistle blowing on a piece of code?  LOL, he's not the one doing damage to egems in the ANN, you are, by showing the complete lack of professionalism in how the egems team handles the bug reveal and the ensuing back and forth.  Your supporters and community can see exactly what to expect in the future. 
What i dont understand is theres a link in main post where we can be reached live chat. Why post a bug here when we could be spoken to directly and in realtime?   

I have no idea why you are addressing questions to etherhacker to me, it's the second time now.  But since you asked: Maybe he missed it.  I'm sure you can relate, lol. 
no that was for you. [sarcasm] becuase etherhacker is not very thorough I mean after all he found all our bugs [/sarcasm]
53  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 06:36:46 PM
I thought you were done talking....

better make sure to do it more damaging than posting in the ANN jokeboy

You can't try to revert to be professional now that your terrorist tactics are already deployed...


Not only are you incompetent at coding, you are also bad at telling people apart by "language patterns".  While they both seem to be non native English speakers, the etherhacker guy is  angrier and doesn't mind getting his hands dirty.  while Ellaismer always tried to stay above the fray.  You even said it yourself, Ellaismer acts like a school teacher, man, even when you know the answer, you still screw it up.  You have so much hate for the guy that you try so hard to pin the blame on him, but everyone else can see that you just didn't do your homework right and your egos just can't let you own up to it like an adult.  How do you expect your coin to make it while he team got the basics so wrong, and aren't equipped with the procedure or the professionalism to handle one bug.  The next one, if etherhacker decides he wants time the release to do real damage, is going to sink your coin. 

And now just like before, when you have no sound arguments, you resort to personal attacks, calling him a terrorist.  Over whistle blowing on a piece of code?  LOL, he's not the one doing damage to egems in the ANN, you are, by showing the complete lack of professionalism in how the egems team handles the bug reveal and the ensuing back and forth.  Your supporters and community can see exactly what to expect in the future. 
What i dont understand is theres a link in main post where we can be reached live chat. Why post a bug here when we could be spoken to directly and in realtime?   
54  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 06:32:10 PM

What I understood reading between the lines regarding EGEM (I don't care the drama regarding other coins):
 - this coin got ~16% dev fee from blocks
 - it's full of bugs
 - the dev is not so good (because EGEM got them bugs)

Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

--The devfee is by design and there for a reason.
--the code was checked, however if there are bugs we will pay a bounty for them
-- there is a team of devs which will work together to advance this project.
55  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 10:08:28 AM

the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?

He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 

Easy to say after the fact. Just saying that his first post was hostile. So i took it as fud. Also at the time that account was brand new and never posted in this forum before.

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Lol this guy must be crazy. You are the person that made me change my strategy not to disclose the bug peacefully. Now you're calling another bug disclose request as FUD too? Enjoy your reputation being ruined.

EGEM team should get rid of him as well.
[/quote]  you still have not answered my post where i request how we can end this, why?
56  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 05:05:40 AM

the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?

He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 

Easy to say after the fact. Just saying that his first post was hostile. So i took it as fud. Also at the time that account was brand new and never posted in this forum before.

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You know how they say smart people are always doubting and double checking themselves and the dumb ones are always sure they are right? 

"Useful men, who do useful things, don't mind being treated as useless. But the useless always judge themselves as being important and hide all their incompetence behind authority. There are few things more dangerous than a mixture of power, arrogance and incompetence." 

Well, you were arrogant because you thought you did SO much work for Ellaism, that you "made it what it is today", and so you think you could knock out another block chain in a week. You were so full of yourselves that when the issue presented itself, you didn't like the guy's tone and decided you must have nothing to worry about.  Only to end up eating those words the very next day. 

The fact that Egems so often stress that it is not a "hobby coin" as a dig at Ellaism just makes this accidental premine code debacle that much sadder. 
[/quote] tone or not to have him come here when there were other was of contacting the team members tells me his plan from the begining was to fud. And to have others on his side follow.  How come he hasnt responded to my request to get this to end?
57  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 02, 2018, 04:07:04 AM

the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?
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He was proven right and wasn't just doing it for the FUD. 
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Easy to say after the fact. Just saying that his first post was hostile. So i took it as fud. Also at the time that account was brand new and never posted in this forum before.
58  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 01, 2018, 11:21:57 PM
Hey Dimsum222

I think a few things:

1) I was talking to YOU specifically about the community wallet accusations you were making, and letting every reader (and you) know that we did offer to return the funds to the contributors of that wallet - still waiting on reply... funny thing is I am not a signer on that wallet and I think only one of our dev team is... so unfounded accusations really anyway. Never the less

the other comment was to "etherhacker. We do take any bug report seriously. We were asking if he could please submit a bounty request to help us fix the bug instead of just using it as a means to humiliate us publicly. That first bug was removed when it was reported and we did an entire chain reset to fix it. I think that is taking a report seriously. Our community was strong and supportive of that and it speaks volumes to me as a developer.

I also think the rest of your comments are directed blindly at me as if I am the whole group. I don't have a twitter account or treat anyone with disrespect. The comments about "FUD much" were exactly right on. General respect in the crypto community would be approaching the devs in private not coming over to the ANN and try to disrupt it. I would recommend you reply to tbates76 as he offered to straiten things out in private. Just so you know every one of the guys that did have signatures to that wallet you are mad about said they fully support giving it back to the people who put the money in the wallet. They cant just hand it over to someone else and I am sure you understand that. You see, crypto means a few things for sure:

1) they have the private key they own the funds and can do what they want with them, however, in this case they know the intention of those funds was not for the signers but to enable a community to work together on something. Also in this case it was to work together with a core dev that split that something up when he wouldn't vote on a consensus but left the discord - we know who that is

so....

2) if the transaction fails on smart contract the funds go back to the sender. In this case the contract for that community fund failed so a refund is inevitable and a multi sign wallet is a smart contract on consensys.

I hope you understand and can let this go and move on. EGEM is working  over here with the supportive community we have and that is our focus. The code we worked on was reviewed by thousands of peoples eyes before us (its open source) and we did our best and made some mistakes. We opened up the code for all to see on a testnet plenty of time before the soft launch. I would have expected someone to point out an error then. We fix errors when we find them and when they arise, now, and in the future. There is always a way to fix and move on. We don't have ill will toward the other community you speak of, we had a non consensus and unfortunately can't rectify it.

Please contact one of us in private to settle any issues from here on out. This ANN is for EGEM and that community. Thanks.

I'm not addressing you specifically, but the egems team.  The level of obfuscation and denial here is amazing.  Anyone can go back to read the comments from tbates and riddle in response to etherhacker's notice about the bug in your code, and the response from Riddles was:"GL to you sir."  and tbates:"FUD MUCH?".  Literally, that's all they said.  Is that taking it seriously?  No, that's downright dismissive and you got what you deserved.  The fact that you are arguing it was otherwise, while the evidence is plainly there for anyone to see is exactly the sort of arrogance and cognitive dissonance the egems team is afflicted with.  You are lucky he told you about the bug sooner rather than later, and really should thank him for saving your asses from much bigger trouble later on. 

Your other points are wrong as well, esp the twitter account not being in the egems possession.  Also, someone with the username osoese posted plenty on various twitter discussions, are you going to delete them and claim you don't have a twitter account?  I don't want to spend any more time educating you, or proving why you are wrong, the evidence is right here in this thread and anyone can read it and make up their own minds. 

This team not only lacks basic competence in coding, but also deficient in logic and reason in the face of overwhelming evidence. 

One last bit of advice, people that have the respect of others don't ask for it, they work for it and EARN IT.  Only when they are not capable, do someone asks for respect, and true respect never given just because someone asks for it. 
the intentions of etherhacker was clear to me on his first post. I mean he insulted the team calling them script kiddies. How am i not to take that as fud?
59  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 01, 2018, 11:44:33 AM
What is with your blockchain. Mined it all evening and then BAM and i got nothing on my wallet.
It was  Blockchain Height 9100+ and now  Blockchain Height: 194
 Angry

Chain was reset to remove the bug which was posted in this thread.
All coins mined up to block 9200 will be refunded.
The dev fee address will pay this out once it has enough to do so.


Haha, no. Your chain contains another bug.

You ignored my advice twice, so your judgement awaits. I will wait longer this time so you cannot relaunch again.

What a scam this is... I mean, after one serious bug, the developer is so incompetent that they even refuse to take time to review the code.
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First, I notice every time that I post you pounce. Why is that. I am not a developer, in fact in post 1 its not my name. Why do you continue to attack just my comments? Second I was right in my second reply, anything I said would have ended in this same result. What I dont understand is this.My first reply to you was a question. Not a statement. And then you went off. All your posts in this thread are attacks.  I am taking it personal as you only reply to my comments. I ASK HOW can we end this?
60  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][NO-PREMINE][EtherGEM] An ethereum network with a different view. on: April 01, 2018, 02:06:31 AM
Where is my coin? Is this a fraudulent coin?  Huh  Angry
What is with your blockchain. Mined it all evening and then BAM and i got nothing on my wallet.
It was  Blockchain Height 9100+ and now  Blockchain Height: 194
 Angry

Chain was reset to remove the bug which was posted in this thread.
All coins mined up to block 9200 will be refunded.
The dev fee address will pay this out once it has enough to do so.

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