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121  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 10, 2018, 04:13:20 AM
bitcoin is currently undergoing it's last great accumulation phase ... so far we have had around 4 or 5 of these, depending on how you do the math on those crazy times when bitcoin was ripping from 0.1 cents to $32 ...  Grin those were the real crazy days guys ... anyway back to the present we now have the largest financial entities on the planet, NYSE, Goldman, UBS, etc trying to figure out what their "bitcoin strategy" is going to be, and this is in the next 1 to 2 years max ... not 5-10 year, note this is a full 5-7 years after the cypherpunks suggested these guys needed to develop a bonafide bitcoin strategy or get left behind.

So the various fudsters, scam artists and goldbugs are trying to sell you something and keep you out of the greatest monetary revolution in 500 years are lining their pockets, telling lies and shilling for frauds, pyramids and ponzis, will always show up here to stop you filling your boots in this last great accumulation, like every other time the easily deceived millions have gotten left behind when the inevitable next adoption wave comes rolling over. The market forces swelling up beneath bitcoin valuations are unstoppable, like a tsunami coming ashore in ever greater tidal pressure waves, the financial incentives and energy behind bitcoin are vast, on global and intergenerational scales in space and time. Fighting against them is the ultimate in an exercise in futility and stupidity.

Once the largest financial pools of global capital are completed hedging themselves from monetary risks with the first true global currency, bitcoin, then the extreme volatility and large adoption waves phase will be over ... there just doesn't exist the capital on the planet to create such conditions again. Your children, grand-children or descendants for 5 generations will never see what you are witnessing in these times. Bitcoin value will keep climbing steadily after this last great run, and maybe volatile but once a large portion of global capital is engaged in bitcoin as a monetary instrument the times of massive gains and extreme volatility will be largely behind us (save for some contrived scares and mini-bubble hypes). Bitcoin value will then begin to come more attached to the underlying economic activity executed using the deflationary coin (all hodlers benefit from economic and technological advances in bitcoin-denominated businesses). Bitcoin's already impressive decentralised and robust nature will only increase after the great adoption waves are finally subsiding and mining will become more widely distributed globally and into smaller more distributed devices as the mining chip technology reaches state-of-the-art, commoditised, leading edge maturity.

This is your time people, fill your boots or doom your descendants to also ran status ( you should be able to pick some up all the way down to ~$2500 in the next 18 months with good timing and preparation, anywhere below $5k is a steaming hot buy and hodl). See you at $300k in 2025.



Great read, exactly what it all looks like

A lot of tears coming, we all gonna get rogered

Whale below knows whats going on, of course he does, when he dumping



122  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2018, 10:47:42 PM
CBOE RESPONDS: After Delay Is Announced, Sources Confirm Continued Bitcoin ETF Confidence
https://theicojournal.com/cboe-responds-after-delay-is-announced-sources-confirm-continued-bitcoin-etf-confidence/

Quote from: CBOE Source
“Expected and the markets are acting irrationally to the announcement. Every single submission like this has gotten a delay. Again, expected. Still expect approval. 99% expectation. Print it, but as always, don’t use my name. Smiley

Quote from: Van Eck Source
“Our team expected this delay, almost to the hour, and has been an expectation in our planning process. We won’t say when we expect an approval, but there has been specific speculation that we actually agree with and have incorporated into our timeline. We are in no way surprised by this. Most importantly, we believe our submission is the strongest yet to be put in front of US regulators, and believe that strength will be rewarded.”

Quote from: Recent SEC employee
“The four people I still talk to on the daily at the SEC are basically telling me this ‘it is going to get approved but we are going to make the markets understand that we dug really, really deep i.e. investor protection/transparency’. And that makes sense. The vast majority of the public still has no idea what ‘digital assets’ are or what it means. So when you do an approval like this, and the successive approvals that will follow in this asset class – think of the 3-5 year return number that will be associated with this market? And maybe that is the key to the Van Eck SolidX approval? It is set up as an accredited investor vehicle. That singular element is probably what gives so many of us a firm belief in its approval. And it is a stroke of genius by the Van Eck SolidX group.”

If you knew an approval were imminent, and you had the means, wouldn't you strive to drive the price down as much as possible in the months preceding?

What effect might an ETF approval have on Bitcoin dominance? Legitimize the entire asset class or single out Bitcoin?

One coin to rule them all, one coin to find them,
One coin to bring them all and in the darkness bind them?


It's a shame this arcane ETF approval process has basically throttled speculation, but it has done wonders for separating innovation from chaff.

What might a post-ETF world look like?



WEB 3.0 decentralization, the more it is used the more you dilute the centralization of everything

so many currencies, so many choices,

and bitcoin can regulate them all RSK

123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ZEC] ZCASH - All coins are created equal. Discussion Thread (Unofficial) on: August 09, 2018, 09:39:54 PM
Now I see all the same hype around the  ZCASH project faded a bit, the community gradually cools to the  ZCASH project. And I remember what used to be the excitement around the  ZCASH project, all about it and talked at the start. Maybe with another pump, it'll all come back.

I think there's currently too much selling pressuere due to the inflation. There's still a lot of ZEC being mined, if you compare it to the ZEC in existence. In the current market climate, It's hard to find buyers for this. But around 0.025 BTC looks like strong support for now.

Are you certain that is gonna hold

Its been bouncing off of that range for a while, I would bet it holds.

But who knows in 4 months from now if it will hold, with all these asics hitting the network that could make for even more selling pressure. Or maybe even the contrary? More holders?

I feel like the first halving of ZEC in 2020 will really spark a frenzy of price action.

If I had a good place to run them I would be buying the shit out of these z9's, even if the difficulty spikes all the ZEC you would mine would be extremely profitable in the long run.

What if the developer has been outed for scams involving Roger Ver

Future proves past

I don't think the actions of one developer will affect the long term sustainability of the project, maybe you can elaborate on what zooko has to do with roger ver?

I have a feeling you are a btc max though, which in that case you would look for absolutely any reason to call this a scam  Sad

No, here to hunt, not prove anything

124  Economy / Exchanges / Re: WEX.nz on: August 09, 2018, 09:37:37 PM
~some chance to get some of your money~


Heard it all before
Cannot withdraw to USD no USD bank account

all we have left is to hunt

Names please


125  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2018, 09:33:15 PM
Last $5k buying opportunity coming in the next month.
Not long after will be the last 4 digit buy opportunity.

Shame not gonna happen for many WEX customers, so many waiting for a pump
I suppose all they can do is hunt

go the bitcoin

126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2018, 04:10:25 PM

The return of Wall observer, yeah

Like the shackles have been unchained
127  Economy / Exchanges / Re: WEX.nz on: August 09, 2018, 03:06:07 PM
How did you lose the funds?
They are stolen by Dmitry Vasilyev (our CEO)
Do not trust anybody until situation will be clear
We have a lot of technical problems. We may not answer at your all questions
twitter and wex chat controlling by corrupted admin (Dmitry Vasilyev's adherent). They do not tells you the truth

Not this Again

ALL THE NAMES, NOW or your complicit

That is how this scam is going to work, not like all the other exchanges - SHILLS will be hunted first

You all F#$KIN trapped with us this time - return my coins


My 2013 account has watched it all.
128  Economy / Exchanges / Re: WEX.nz on: August 09, 2018, 12:58:57 PM
How about offering one single shred of proof that you are who you claim to be?
You think that we are fools, who will provides any evidences for an itself?
That we was arrested by the FBI?

I tell you one thing. You knows nothing

I know it all, even the monsters, so come at me, I will show real ones


its like no one reads profiles these days

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=114706;sa=showPosts


looks horrific, insidious evil

shill after f#$king shill alll SCREWING with you

and then it gets worse


they sent me on a 4 week campaign of no answers, yet they all know each other
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: August 09, 2018, 12:35:42 PM

Yeah Bitinstant to Gox then Cryptsy, WEX going the same way

any info on these guys

I can certainly do with my coin back

Not familiar with WEX but historically speaking the funds are gone for good.  The theft is planned well ahead of time, individual data is often destroyed and the thieves disappear - like Big Vermin ran to China.  Good luck tracking him.  

Of course he’s not in China - it was an inside job to grab key alts at that time.  

But I digress...

Seriously why the riddles.
I am sure you understand what I am looking for, if there is no coins, there is only those that assisted

seriously hornetnest future proves past - follow roger (we do see all roger)
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: August 09, 2018, 12:30:57 PM

Yeah Bitinstant to Gox then Cryptsy, WEX going the same way

any info on these guys

I can certainly do with my coin back

Not familiar with WEX but historically speaking the funds are gone for good.  The theft is planned well ahead of time, individual data is often destroyed and the thieves disappear - like Big Vermin ran to China.  Good luck tracking him.  

Of course he’s not in China - it was an inside job to grab key alts at that time.  

But I digress...

Seriously why the riddles.
I am sure you understand what I am looking for, if there is no coins, there is only those that assisted
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: August 09, 2018, 12:20:13 PM

no money, like i said got scammed, shame I know

any opportunities

bounty, sig camp, logo design

Man, sorry to hear that, sounds just like my story - lost it all in cryptsy.  Only sig campaign I know of is BTX, but not sure they have any open spots.  

Yeah Bitinstant to Gox then Cryptsy, WEX going the same way

any info on these guys

I can certainly do with my coin back
132  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 09, 2018, 12:10:56 PM

In this market I would be better off if i got scammed a total of 100btc


we certainly do not need any water


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Adgx9wt63NY
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: August 09, 2018, 11:47:36 AM

It would be nice to invest in this, what do you call it IXC, last of my investment got scammed

What opportunities is there to get some coin

Right now there are hundreds of thousands of IXcoin on exchanges.  You should hurry.  Smiley

no money, like i said got scammed, shame I know

any opportunities

bounty, sig camp, logo design
134  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: August 09, 2018, 11:35:43 AM
So the deadline to claim UBTC is over?  

I’m guessing their foundation got millions of free coins.  All for themselves.  I don’t see how they can sell this to mainstream investors.  They should have at least done an airdrop like BTX.  

it's long, long gone. and i seem to remember them constantly changing the goalposts too. when announced claiming it looked relatively simple, then they made it gradually more impossible and i gave up. one of the shoddiest operations i've ever seen and it just goes to show what would've happened if segwit2x had passed as the same guy would've been in charge.

i have not seen a mention of this coin for several months so it's safe to say it's been an absolute non event. jeff garzik is now doing that metronome thing.

Sounds really pathetic.  Off the top of my head I’d say these guys confiscated at least 75% of all the coins, including all of Satoshi’s coins.  


https://www.goldcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3789.0
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: -- The Riddle of the Twin Brothers - Who Were, Are and Will Rule the World! on: August 09, 2018, 11:25:21 AM

It would be nice to invest in this, what do you call it IXC, last of my investment got scammed

What opportunities is there to get some coin
136  Economy / Exchanges / Re: WEX.nz on: August 09, 2018, 11:16:06 AM
so cash is lost?

Bitinstant, MtGox, Cryptsy etc etc etc


Read how they do it, every scam the same way

The aftermath of the Cryptsy hack
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.0
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: August 09, 2018, 12:15:23 AM
@mymenance

Roger Ver literally gives money away everyday and has done so much more for BTC and BCH, regardless of how fat and unimportant you are, he will not stop.



Yes we know how he pays people off,

does he give advice on failing coins or exchanges

does he ever assist in hacked exchanges and coins

dont be so naive
138  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2018, 10:48:43 PM
Trap closed, Roger's gone
Hurt some close friends he did.
Wild swings to continue, up and down, back and forth

so sad, no moon, remember November

Bye ZEC
139  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2018, 09:47:30 PM

Sick of it


Conspiracy theory or not

Crap pops up about women when some shit talk want to happen

Future proves past
140  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: August 08, 2018, 09:19:03 PM
https://www.newsbtc.com/2018/08/08/fud-fueled-crypto-market-dumps-25-billion-in-24-hours/

We're 9.5% down in 24 hours?! Is that how much we fell? REALLY?!
Quote
Once again traders and hodlers have been suckered into the FUD frenzy and are selling out of crypto. It was hardly as if this decision wasn’t expected and nothing else has really changed in the ecosystem. Total market capitalization has plunged 9.5% on the day resulting in a loss of almost $25 billion. They are currently at their lowest point in 2018 which is just over $231 billion and the bear market is still in full effect.


Weeeeee look at the crooks run

More FUD, still hurting from the ETF?

So confusing
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