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881  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2018, 11:57:19 AM
I had no clue what the BIS was, so I had to google it.

The BIS is the ‘central bank of central banks’. To be honest, the recent media outings of their chairman on the rise of cryptocurrencies were not exactly what the public is waiting for in terms of banking reform (how not to increase faith of the public in banks or: a PR disaster in the making). I hate to say it but the physical appearance of the guy also does not help in the minds of the public.

It all smells like making their long term irrelevance a given by their own (in)action, even without the ascent of cryptocurrencies.

IMF owns BIS - steal from the poor give to the rich

Their currency is
Standard Drawing Rights - the king of money

How your wealth is finally processed

https://www.rt.com/business/418523-cryptocurrency-regulation-inevitable-imf/
Earlier, the head of the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) Agustin Carstens said bitcoin is “a combination of a bubble, a Ponzi scheme and an environmental disaster,” calling central banks to crack down on cryptocurrencies.

                                                                                    Agustin_Carstens


882  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2018, 06:52:15 AM
The curious question about the jews is why does nobody like them? Hitler was not the first Hitler, and he won't be the last. The jews have been kicked out of hundreds of places around the world over the last few thousand years. But why? What is it about them that makes them so detestable to, apparently, most of the world?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

When i read this over a few years back i went

ARE U FOR FXXKIN REAL


lets displace millions of people

now i do not hate followers (brainwashed) of evil c$%nts

but what was done here is inexcusable


"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object"

Why why why

why if I am British do I give a flying f#$ck about these people


Perhaps the people who benefited from the Balfour Declaration promised to push for and finance America's entry into WWI, on the side of Britain.  Wink


Certainly did, banker barons got to the president of the US, somehow.. Germany had won by this time..

The Fed Comes Into its Own
https://www.federalreservehistory.org/essays/feds_role_during_wwi
Although the Fed focused on war finance at the expense of inflation during World War I, it emerged as a major player on the world stage after the war as it developed into a full-fledged central bank.



then the next big stab in the back to humanity the Treaty of Versailles
883  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2018, 12:49:45 AM
The curious question about the jews is why does nobody like them? Hitler was not the first Hitler, and he won't be the last. The jews have been kicked out of hundreds of places around the world over the last few thousand years. But why? What is it about them that makes them so detestable to, apparently, most of the world?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration

When i read this over a few years back i went

ARE U FOR FXXKIN REAL


lets displace millions of people

now i do not hate followers (brainwashed) of evil c$%nts

but what was done here is inexcusable


"His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object"

Why why why

why if I am British do I give a flying f#$ck about these people
884  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: An open letter to Paul Vernon aka "Big Vern" - Cryptsy on: February 11, 2018, 06:58:46 PM
//Sorry if I'm off-topic, didn't know where to post it//

Dear Mr Paul Vernon, dear "Big Vern",
.............
Can you imagine the everyday heavyweight on their shoulders, feeling guilty of losing such an amount of money and failing ?
Can you imagine this weight to get even bigger if one day BTC hits 100,000$ or 1,000,000$ ?

Can you imagine all the consequences of your act ?

I remember the time "Big Vern", used to post nice and friendly messages in trollbox and social media, I still can't believe this is the same "Big Vern" that fled away with people's dream...

Yet, I do believe that you could do something now, something fair and right for all of us, like returning half of the money you stole.


As if scam artists are going to return your bitcoin, or even half of it. Get real. criminals don't return stolen property. Man up and stop moaning.

Hopefully you invested well after that

there are other ways to get you btc back, try contractors, private investigators, etc etc

Various cryptsy clients who have profited of this last big high are using their money for hunting

the Law let them go, the Law let let them flee, the Law helped them steal it

happy hunting

885  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2018, 08:47:25 PM
Um . Is this latest bounce just part of this downward channel??. Thoughts?




look at the big green volume candle below - then see it in the 3 day chart

an indicator to buy?

6000 also where jpmorgan clients got in last time - coincidence
886  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 10, 2018, 11:51:47 AM
It saddens me that soon this thread will be irrelevant due to victims finally being rewarded thanks to the class action lawsuit. Everybody is once again made whole, thus no need beating this dead horse further. EL NOT!!!

if "whole" means a kick in the nuts and a joke of a pay-out, then, yeah!

We'll start a new thread or FORK this one: The Hunt for Perv Vern

AKA Where in the World is Wanker?

PAUL VERNON
Attended Shanghai Sharks v Shandong Golden Stars

currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.18) Last Active: 12-17-2017


as soon as I mentioned the above,
this account stops posting and does not return

mallocdotc
(reference to c+ programming I think)

I hate coincidence



Why do u think he attended that game?

they all being tracked, events are bought online, locations are accurate

887  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2018, 09:41:06 AM

Doesn't matter what I think, and as you said "people who understand the value of bitcoin". Newbies don't understand shit, but, they do understand metrics like market cap, so it will hurt bitcoin. If bitcoin is not number one on the shitty marketcap metric that will hurt bitcoin adoption plain and simple.

What do the advertisers say? "you don't need a good product, just good marketing"

In that case, bitcoin was fucked from day one. 21 million coins for the entire world economy was never going to work. Most world citizens (>99%) have never had $8750 at one time in their lives. They will never buy bitcoin at that price. They will buy Ripple for $1 instead.

EDIT: Yes, I know they are divisible but the average idiot can't comprehend that.

The real problem though is that the idiots don't understand the importance or decentralization, lack of a central authority, deflationary monetary system, developer talent, trustless, and so on. Bitcoin is the best coin without a doubt in my opinion. But, how in the fuck can we get mass adoption, when most people still think the media, and governments are the good guys. Crypto will get mass adoption, but, I fear that it will be a bullshit coin supported by the banks, media, and governments.



The real enemy is the sheeple and yet also the customer

888  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2018, 09:33:58 AM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
Its likely part of a cycle - I (speculatively) can see an alt bubble followed by a BTC surge

Its been a few days since I've checked all the prices and I must say I am stunned that the alts are coming back so hard.

I hope you're right starmman, but, it just doesn't look like BTC will ever regain its dominance to even the 50% level. Hell, look at ripple up 50%, people were wiped out on that recently and it just doesn't seem to matter. I consider most alts to be shit, but, I guess when it's all speculating it doesn't really matter that they are shit.


Market cap and bitcoin dominance can be a misleading indicator for all the reasons that you already stated... so in that regard, people who understand the value of bitcoin are going to realize that bitcoin is the one to buy rather than gambling on those many other alt coins - and useful also NOT to get distracted by coinmarket cap, at least in terms of informing you about the dominance of BTC's fundamentals in comparison to any (and all) of the other coins.

Crypto War successful and ongoing (block size, transactions, hard forks, media)

create less reliance on bitcoin and more on centralized tokens

pump alts, sell tokens to newbs

create national tokens (russia coin, Petro coin etc), pump for newbs

sell into bitcoin - big pump (Huge) before next battle on bitcoin exchanges (corrupt, broke, no reserves, multiple exchanges as well as other btc scams)

legislate exchange and ban btc to promote national crypto

btc crash and they hope for good

lets see how it all pans out (within next 10 months)

It's going to take a whole hell of a lot longer than 10 months for all of these things to play out.

I agree with you mymenace that a lot of these things are happening and a lot of like things are going to happen in the crypto space and maybe even attempts to target and to undermine bitcoin, but even if a lot of these things happen all over the globe, it does not result in bitcoin successfully being stagnated and repressed, even though there might be some shorter-term and localized successes that might only last a short period of time because bitcoin is all over the fucking place, and there are a lot of governmental difficulties to coordinate, even if BIG ASS financial players attempt to coordinate their attacks on bitcoin, even the BIG ASS financial players are not sufficiently unified to pull off some kind of successful unified repression of bitcoin on a world-wide basis...

TLDR - bitcoin has become too BIG, too decentralized and too strong to kill...  the toothpaste is out of the tube, and it's like trying to kill the internet; good luck with that..

I agree, completely

just mentioning the enemies tactics, usually successful

yeah bitcoin just seems too damn strong a network to change though



and the attacks begin again, just reading this

https://www.rt.com/business/418390-france-germany-bitcoin-clampdown/

From the enemy themselves the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), direct from the IMF


889  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2018, 08:55:28 AM
BTC dominance is sinking and sinking.

I don't really like this.

Altcoins are thriving just as before the crash and it gets worst.
Its likely part of a cycle - I (speculatively) can see an alt bubble followed by a BTC surge

Its been a few days since I've checked all the prices and I must say I am stunned that the alts are coming back so hard.

I hope you're right starmman, but, it just doesn't look like BTC will ever regain its dominance to even the 50% level. Hell, look at ripple up 50%, people were wiped out on that recently and it just doesn't seem to matter. I consider most alts to be shit, but, I guess when it's all speculating it doesn't really matter that they are shit.


Market cap and bitcoin dominance can be a misleading indicator for all the reasons that you already stated... so in that regard, people who understand the value of bitcoin are going to realize that bitcoin is the one to buy rather than gambling on those many other alt coins - and useful also NOT to get distracted by coinmarket cap, at least in terms of informing you about the dominance of BTC's fundamentals in comparison to any (and all) of the other coins.

Crypto War successful and ongoing (block size, transactions, hard forks, media)

create less reliance on bitcoin and more on centralized tokens

pump alts, sell tokens to newbs

create national tokens (russia coin, Petro coin etc), pump for newbs

sell into bitcoin - big pump (Huge) before next battle on bitcoin exchanges (corrupt, broke, no reserves, multiple exchanges as well as other btc scams)

legislate exchange and ban btc to promote national crypto

btc crash and they hope for good

lets see how it all pans out (within next 10 months)
890  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 10, 2018, 08:18:23 AM
It saddens me that soon this thread will be irrelevant due to victims finally being rewarded thanks to the class action lawsuit. Everybody is once again made whole, thus no need beating this dead horse further. EL NOT!!!

if "whole" means a kick in the nuts and a joke of a pay-out, then, yeah!

We'll start a new thread or FORK this one: The Hunt for Perv Vern

AKA Where in the World is Wanker?

PAUL VERNON
Attended Shanghai Sharks v Shandong Golden Stars

currently in thread 12/17/17 -
(01.01.18) Last Active: 12-17-2017


as soon as I mentioned the above,
this account stops posting and does not return

mallocdotc
(reference to c+ programming I think)

I hate coincidence

891  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2018, 01:24:13 AM
Price be falling, yo.

Is it time to start panicking again ?

 Damn!  No fountain pen for me.



chart lookin different careful, bullish signals everywhere
892  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2018, 12:46:51 AM

(snip....)

The underlying question, of course, is: How can smaller creatures - human, tunas, herrings and minnows - see it coming?


This is a huge, but probably unanswerable question.  But it is one that anyone smart is always hoping to find the answer to.

Markets are all about confidence and sentiment, so (sadly) there is no perfect answer, even though with hindsight patterns do repeat.  But patterns can always be seen in the past and look obvious - seeing them coming again is not so easy.  Like Elliot waves; it's always debatable 'which wave' we are in.

For long-term trend prediction (the big turning points), I think indicators of irrational bullishness /bearishness are as good an indicator of anything a crash, or rise is coming - but this is unmeasurable mathematically.

Short term - personally - I draw lines on charts endlessly, decide my favourite candle time scale and which MA to trade on and it usually 'helps' - but only enough to give me an edge.  And it's an edge that works only if you work hard and spend a LOT of time on it.

I did sell off 20% in Dec, which was as much as I dared to because it was enough to change my life significantly - and I didn't know what the tax situation in my country was likely to mean for what I took out (plus it was still going up!).   I felt strongly we would probably correct, and I remembered 2013, so I took 'some' out.  I advised members of my close family who had anything to do the same (they chose not to).

I will say this:

With trends (not short term trading), the only thing that has worked for me is two methodologies:

1.  Gut feeling  (along with mentally preparing to 'sell to too early, if it's enough money to make a difference')

2.  Listening to Tera.
Well, while you can't predict where in a given pattern we are at any given moment, you can use historical data to get a probability of certain patterns unfolding on different time scales. And to be profitable all it takes is to be right just over 50% of the time, which is something that isn't extremely difficult in inefficient markets. That does take a very specific toolset though, so it's not for everyone by default, although the required skills can be acquired by anyone. The problem is that figuring out the details takes a very long time, and humans are pretty dreadful when it comes to long-term planning.

I think what d_eddie was quite reasonably asking was 'what can we learn so that can we see the big stuff coming in future', since most here did not.

I use TA and in normal conditions I can trade with enough edge for it to work well enough to be worthwhile, after five years, I ought to have learned something - but I didn't know where the top was, and I am not totally certain BTC has bottomed out.  To be really good, you need to sell all at the precise top, and then buy it back at the absolute bottom.  

I doubt anyone actually did.

Perfection is not possible, but getting closer to it is a noble and sensible quest.



Without investing tons of time, treat it like anything else: copy a pro, and fake it til you make it.  TERA is a pro.  Max gains is not realistic - selling too soon for GOOD gains flat out destroys panic selling on the way down, over the long term.  You might catch a top or a bottom just right here or there, but never enough to beat the average of always good. 



best predictor eva

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0akBdQa55b4





893  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2018, 11:11:13 PM
Obvious Bcash pump due to Roger shooting himself in the foot.

Pump and dump before the crash

sell while u can



894  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2018, 08:33:00 PM
^^ linky https://youtu.be/zOViAFHNZm4?t=25m5s
edit better links needed
https://twitter.com/BTC4USD/status/961682588518834176

@BTC4USD
24m24 minutes ago

I just rekt @rogerkver on Infowars in front of millions

thread

bcash are shills for blocktream and segwit

how to spot a bcash shill, they do not say bcash

895  Economy / Speculation / Re: Analysis on: February 08, 2018, 08:10:29 PM

hope the bottom $6000 is reach . the triangle will take almost one year to complete??

Alts may take the lead during that time and Bitcoin will stay in shadows until Lightning Network is fully adopted.

sounds like the plan, alts to rally, sideways for bitcoin, then flip those alts, moon time

896  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action on: February 08, 2018, 08:04:59 PM

I'm thrilled for everyone who squeezed some justice out of craptsy.

Take advantage of the BTC dip!

but you didnt really did you?

I mean you got something, and thats good... but it didnt come from Vern or cryptsy, it came at the expense of the other users.
The money they are handing out was money stolen from the users, not out of Verns wallet. Even the money from the sale of the house car and ring came from his ex wife, and
I dont know if she knew or not, but she still walked away with a large chunk of the users money, so even she came out a winner.

The money trickling in now for the users of cryptsy is a small fraction of their own money... The bad guys still won this day, and there is no justice for anyone.


Just saying...

Yap
I see.my check ( its total shit amount ,I got it )

gave up on all that a while ago

heard a few stories on cryptsy clients forming, well, a posse.

Decided I will wait for my opportunities and when they arise get my money back directly

I know Marshall got some money - its now mine when the oppo arises. (the more he makes the better)

897  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 07, 2018, 09:44:17 PM
Take note of something guys, take note.

The trolls and shitcoin shills that plagued this WO thread all last year, posting nearly multiple times per day, are completely gone now.

So what does that tell you? Did they have an agenda for 2017 that had nothing to do with all their shitty talking points?

You bet your ass they did.

They are not innocent zealots (i.e., Satoshi white paper adherers, big blockers, shitcoin lovers, or precious metal enthusiasts).

They are accounts associated with the whale traders, or paid shills, or both.

And when Bitcoin goes on a tear again, they will be back in droves (but likely with brand new account names).

Right on



898  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Its over guys on: February 02, 2018, 07:33:04 PM
Mdaa I also looked at the news of the market was very surprised how the whole beginning of the sudden collapse and collapse I hope this is not for long, and it will be rather bad.


remember this comment

this is the time the market starts buying, when fear is everywhere

big buy signal
899  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Its over guys on: February 02, 2018, 01:46:01 PM
8000$ should be really strong support, selling under this price dont make sense. 

What support are you talking about? LOL. People gaveup on crypto.

In another 3-6 hours it will be below 8k.






50000 here we come...
900  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2018, 11:09:40 AM




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