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1  Economy / Economics / Re: WHEN WILL PEOPLE LEARN? on: September 14, 2018, 06:23:32 AM
Because they turn their brains off, logic off, when they start to dream of good opportunity that pays off. Most people do this for all sorts of things.
Yes, those people who are close minded but they want to be rich and dont want to sacrifice or risk anything about them are the people who are close minded and idiot. If they want a good opportunity they must sacrifice what they have in exchange of it. Maybe in the near future people may learn that kind of thing.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: i Regret Sell my Coin. on: September 12, 2018, 05:54:38 PM
your thoughts just like me, I sold my TRX coin because they feel there is no hope and now it costs to fly away and I was disappointed with myself
Better if you just hold your coins for now and wait for the pump up of the market so that you will not regret if you sell your coin on a low value. Better to wait to gain more profit and to less your regrets when you sell your coins and that coin pump up very high.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: how long will everyone can wait? on: September 12, 2018, 05:38:13 PM
Waiting is a very important characteristic of staying on the crypto market. In principle: day traders stayed in the market with their money and those who are indifferent to the results of trading in the market because of small investments, which they do not have to lose. In this condition, the market will slowly go down. In fact, the crypto market is influenced by 30-40 large investors. With their collusion (in the good sense of the word), the market will move into the growth process.
Yes waiting is a very important characteristic and strategy to stay in this crypto world, especially now that the market is very down. We just need to wait until the huge pump up or the rise of the market again. I think if you really know and understand the crypto world you can wait although it comes a months or years.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How to avoid getting scammed. on: September 12, 2018, 05:26:38 PM
Donít invest whith that limited knowledge and donít be greedy for you to be safe from being scammed. Itís important to know the basic and of course be very busy on learning things. Trading is not an easy job to avoid scams donít trade with shitcoins and invest in long term.
I agree with you! Of course do not invest on bitcoin without enough knowledge and be careful if you will invest something here in crypto world. Many people here are scammers and they will abused you if you don't know anything here. Better if you will read first some article on how to invest well so that you may gain knowledge and avoid those scammers.
5  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money on a long-term period on: September 12, 2018, 05:17:36 PM
How to save money on a long-term period or an essay on black metal.
       This is the translation of my original article. The original is here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4452770.0

I apologize for my English. This is not my native language and I have to use an automatic translator. But I think that you will understand my main thoughts.

Hello friends! Bitcoin is cool. I am an enthusiast of bitcoin and I hope for his growth. But periodically, all holders have to face problems. In this topic, I would like to share with you my idea (and experience) on how to keep the constant value of your money (and even multiply it by a percentage higher than inflation) over the long term. What do I mean by long-term? Period of time in the range from six months to several years and even up to tens of years. The latter is also possible (I think so), although, personally for me it is more of a theoretical interest.
Why is this relevant and how is it related to the cryptoworld? I think that you already guessed). It's wonderful to be a holder and a tractor) crypts on bull (and, especially, a long bull market), but from time to time come to us very different times. Yes, from time to time long bear markets come to us. As an exemplary example of such a market, you can cite the year 2014, when almost the whole year bitkoyn, and with it the rest of the crypt, basically fell.
       I foresee a similar scenario in the not-too-distant future; of course, after the cue ball is once again otzemunitsya (well, if it really happens).
       So, suppose that you are an investor with some margin of crypt. Let's say that you were able to correctly anticipate all the roller coaster growth and the beginning of the bearish crypt market. There are signs that this is serious and for a long time. You'll have to wait for turbulent times in fiat or its steeblechkan equivalents.
But!:
Will it be right to keep money in fiat on a long-term basis? (by default, we mean that the fall will be indefinitely - long, from six months to several years - the bitcoat cycles are stretched).
     Finite money for long-term storage has many drawbacks. Firstly, whatever they say, and Fiat - it's just pieces of paper and figures in the database (in the case of a non-cashier), not protected against rampant inflation (which, by the way, is very different from officially stated). Nobody and nothing can prevent the state from printing these pieces of paper and tsiferok as it deems necessary. A real example before our eyes is the depreciation of the ruble against the dollar in 2015 +/- 2 times and the subsequent price increase. In my opinion, only solid material assets (or bitkoyn can protect you from such devaluations, but it, as we agreed, in this case is in the hands of bears). Below I'll talk about this in more detail, and now a little about how I came to the conclusion about the effectiveness of saving funds in black metal. I came to this idea spontaneously - intuitively.
    In 2014, I thought about building a house with a garage, more precisely, first about the general extended foundation for them. For these purposes, I purchased a sufficient number of metal fittings. I bought with a decent amount of this excess, as I kept in mind another building object. After the construction of the foundation, the majority of the reinforcement remained, however, and the construction season was crumbling. For a while I forgot about my metal. He was lying on my plot in front of the future garage with a huge heap (tied up). I remembered about the valve only in 2015 after the devaluation of the ruble. And I was pleasantly surprised at the preservation of the value of my money))). I tried to test the remaining metal. After the announcement on Avito, several real sellers responded at once, which pleased me pleasantly. They were ready "right now" to buy up all of my armature.
Although the price I put even higher than the market ... it's by the way, eloquently speaks about the liquidity of black metal. This gave me serious food for thought and I ... changed my mind about selling, and used metal for construction on another of my real estate properties. But the very idea of ​​keeping the value in black metal, as they say, has deeply sunk into my soul. I realized that in this capacity, black metal, perhaps, would plug the belt and gold and real estate and, even more so, cash (there were crypto accumulations at the time, but no one knew how long this "exhausting flat" would last) . Before the next crisis in the crypt (the current one I do not consider a crisis), I plan to decently recoup with black metal. Most likely in the form of reinforcement, it can be profile and round pipes, most running sizes)
      And now let's compare in order the black metal as a means of preserving value with cash, gold, real estate and, for example, antiques).
      1.) Black metal and cash
1. "Internal Value" (hereinafter referred to as the consumer value). Cash has no intrinsic value; they are unable to perform functions other than exchange (for other money, assets or goods). That is, theoretically they can depreciate completely (a fantastic scenario, but nevertheless). Black metal can always be used for its intended purpose in construction.
2. Stability of value on the long-term. In the long term, Fiat is gradually depreciating, black metal is not. It, of course, can rust, but we mean responsible dry storage indoors. The joke is that my armature was lying open for several years. It is a bit rusted, but no one pays any attention to it, the cost is preserved).

3. Compactness
Black metal is not as compact as various forms of fiat money, but it is not necessarily seen as a drawback. But it's not so easy to steal it). Compare that it's easier to steal: a bundle of banknotes (crack non-cash money) or a ton of black metal))).

2.) Black metal and gold.
Gold has many of its forms, each of which is not very convenient for long-term storage:
Gold bars (hemorrhoids with banks, registration, difficulties in selling back, state monopoly and seller bank, unfair prices for you.) If you store gold in a bank, you pay decently for storing your gold, as a result your savings melt)
- Investment coins. Again, you will trade with the bank in a way that is not profitable for you, because you are in unequal relations with it.
- Jewelry. The problem with the sale. There is no uniformity, each product is unique. A substantial part of the price contains the work of a jeweler, which your buyer can evaluate.
- Various forms of non-material gold ("paper gold", assets tied to gold, various derivatives on / from it) Intangibles here are the main minus.
Gold loses to black metal in practical use. In the regulation and limitations of its turnover. In too great a variety of forms and the absence of rigid unification (which could have a positive effect on liquidity)

3.) Black metal and real estate
Real estate loses to black metal:
1. The need to register transactions in a specially created for this purpose state institution
2. Real estate objects are too diverse and not uniform, which can make their sale more difficult. Each property is unique in its own way.
3. Black metal has a "volume flexibility". You can buy a little more or a little less in a fairly large range. The real estate object needs to either buy in its entirety or not buy at all ("take what is given")
4. Black metal is mobile)
5. Buying a property you "buy" and neighbors and infrastructure that may wish for the best and with what (and with whom) you have to put up. With black metal, this is not necessary.

4.) Black metal and antiques
Antiques can be uncomfortable for a novice investor. In it it is necessary to understand. It takes years to develop competence. This is a separate occupation. Again, internal heterogeneity and a huge variety of antiques can affect liquidity. In regions and small towns this direction may be undeveloped (and most likely not developed). The practical importance of black metal is much higher than that of antiques. I think that in a crisis this is manifested more strongly.
 So, I briefly outlined the prospects for investing in ferrous metal. We can say that this is one of the ideal instruments that hedge the risks of crypto currency. But does black metal have drawbacks? Unfortunately - yes, more precisely, I would say, features. More precisely, I see only one feature - a disadvantage. For a resident of a city, especially a large one, owning an asset such as ferrous metal may not be very convenient). All the same, you need a garage, or some kind of storage space on the property rights or opportunities for free access. Friends, that's all. Write how you wait for the bearish long-term markets)

             09/09/2018
Many people who comment on my topic, do not read my arguments at all. And do not know what it's written about. I am writing about the preservation of funds from depreciation during the BEAR PERIOD in the bitokoin market. Of course, when the bull will begin and the currency will begin to grow, there is no longer any need to keep funds in black metal.
   The people write nonsense about the fact that you need to put money in the bank, that you need to cut unnecessary costs and so on. This all has nothing to do with the subject of  topic. The desire to put money in the bank to save the cost of their money - for me this is a sign of low intelligence.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.metall does not have a hard fork
2. It is impossible to forget or lose a private key
3. He will never depreciate to zero, he will always have a practical application.
4.He will never have more technological competitors.
5. Black metal does not become obsolete
6. Black metal has no errors in the code, + it can not be hacked by hackers
6. It has no attack risk of 51% and all other attacks
7. He will never be banned by the government
etc///

I think if you really want to save a money on a long period of time, you must create a bank account and invest your money there so that the long period of time you invest the more profit you will earn, or invest in cryptocurrency.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: The HODL strategy is not actual on: September 12, 2018, 04:13:02 PM
Today's story altcoin to earn profits is not possible, the market is increasingly difficult crypto, not only rely on luck and time. I think we must have experience, strategy or new income in the Crypto market. Hold now does not say anything.
Today's happening in the crypto world the only thing for us to avoid cuts and losses is the HODL strategy and just wait until the price goes up again. It's better for us to avoid lossing our money.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Panic selling! Yes or No? on: September 12, 2018, 04:00:31 PM
The market is being manipulated, so we should not give up and can simply continue to wait for the recovery and growth of the market. Do not panic.
Of course not! I agree with you brother, don't panic the growth of crypto will continue and let us wait for the recovery of the market. I believe that the next huge pump up will be the sign to rise up again the market.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: market refresh or just a pump ? on: September 12, 2018, 03:51:27 PM
Hi today market goes green
as you can see in 1 houre perfomance everything changed is it the comeback or just a pump ? what you think about it what is going on ?

In my very own opinion, the market did not refresh at all. The past few days the market goes red again and the market pump a little but turns to red again. I think that the market can't refresh this time but who knows when the next pump up goes high again, it will be the sign of the market to rise again?
9  Economy / Economics / Re: PURPOSE OF TOKEN? on: September 12, 2018, 03:39:56 PM
the token will continue to exist as long as the ico of the project continues to run and the token is just an alternative to bitcoin and tetep being altcoin and will not be able to replace bitcoin. so people can choose bitcoin or altcoin as an investment and others.
Token is the reward that we get from the bounty campaign and it also exit as long as their are bounty campaigns and different kinds of ICO. Token is the alternative bitcoin that is rewarded in bounty campaign.
10  Economy / Economics / Re: Friends reactions to crypto currencies? on: September 12, 2018, 03:28:19 PM
My friends ignore me when I start speaking about or talking anything about crypto currencies. They don't get it, or they don't want to understand it. They are leasing but they are not leasing for real. It is hard to say why they don't want to be involved, but they are very skeptical and always saying, where is all that money? did you cash out, where is it...
I have the same experience with you brother, when I start a topic about cryptocurrency and bitcoin my friends ignored me too and said that crypto is all about scamming other people. They don't know the meaning of crypto and they also don't know what cryptocurrency is all about.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Losing money on: September 12, 2018, 02:52:22 PM
You don't actually lose anything until you sell. Its just people that are in panic that only think short term instead of long term.
I think also that you are not losing any money unless you used it in a waste things. Those people who are in panic to sell their coins due to the low price coins right now are the one who are losing money.
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13  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: My small advice about crypto market on: August 27, 2018, 03:35:47 PM
Many people are still hesitant between trade and hold. In my opinion, Investment is different from speculation is that you spend time and knowledge for it. When you trust and understand, you will not be afraid of the volatility of the market. It's an investor or a HOLDER. It's very good, but I think you get to know the market, trade, the cycle of market so you can be an investor, a smart holder.
"Donít be a blind bull. ALL markets are cyclical. Donít be afraid of pullbacks or market crashes Ė thatís where you can make the most money"
That is right, we need to understand what is happening in the market and to be fully aware of it. Dont be afraid to risk because higher risk leads to higher benefits. Be patient and stay calm when the market is falling. Make sure that your wallet is secured and dont share anything to anyone unless they are asking for some advice
14  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: SHOULD WE GET ALL HATERS OF BITCOIN OUT OF HERE? on: August 27, 2018, 02:46:14 PM
This forum was created for people to learn more about bitcoin and not to hate it or spread false information about it. Guys, is it enough that these days we sit here Angry and here all sorts of FUD being spread about bitcoin saying all sorts of things which are not true???
Let's not forget that it is as a result of these these FUDs that brings all sorts of panic sells which brings the value of bitcoin down and what bores me is that at the end the come back here and say, "Finally bitcoin is dead" forgetting the very fact that they were the very ones that caused it. But they can't because bitcoin is still strong.
I think that is the right thing to do, but dont you think that they also help to make bitcoin more popular. They used to spread false news about bitcoin but we are here to prove that its wrong so people choose to invest in bitcoin.
15  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin will be stronger this time on: August 27, 2018, 02:10:10 PM
I am still optimistic about fortification

I was a famous digital currency analyst, recently that the digital currency market this year is stronger than it was at the same time in 2014. According to his tweets, there are a lot of ongoing purchases despite fear and surrender in the market. His vision was illustrated by a graph comparing the decomposition rate for the period from December 2017 to August 2018 and from December 2013 to January 2015

The market capitalization of the healthy grew from $ 8 billion at about the same time in 2014 to more than $ 108 billion now. Having acquired many acquisitions and reached a price point of close to $ 20,000 in December 2017, the value of the market has increased by more than $ 661 billion.

The 2018 index clearly indicates that there is much lower volatility in the price of the composition at this time. The relative stability of prices in the market can be attributed to the impending news that investors are eagerly waiting for. The US Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC), after its recent rejection of the proposed ETFs proposed by the Winklefos brothers, will announce its decision on nine ETFs in September.

I hope that I have delivered all and created hope again to those who lost Grin
I believe in that too, I know that bitcoin can surpass this fall down and can easily recover. Im hoping that bitcoin can back to normal , some people thinks that this is the end of bitcoin but I dont care on their sayings and I will continue supporting bitcoin no matter what.
16  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who sells BTC now? on: July 21, 2018, 11:15:57 PM
I have seen many threads talking about should I sell now or wait till BTC moons. When I see these threads I marvel and move on to check on different topics or threads because I know the person doesn't know what he is talking about. Diving more into cryptocurrencies, when you sell now it means you are a coward and don't even know the kind of cryptocurrency you are dealing with. One thing is that, its really kinda pity to see those topics raised. I have set a goal and until that goal is not, I will never sell BTC and that's me.I want ask that is it because those selling the coin are newbies and are afraid of loosing some small $s or they haven't read much about bitcoin or the cryptocurrencies or they have low knowledge about the blockchain technology?      

Those who sells their bitcoin just because the prices suddenly drops are cowards and shouldn't invest in the first place. If you want to invest in bitcoin, follow what the time period you set. Some here took years of investment to wait until the prices peaks up. If you are not confident nor patient in this kind of business, may be you should rethink it all over again. Bitcoin investment is about faith, patience, and disregarding FUDs around.
17  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BITCOIN won't die, period. on: July 21, 2018, 10:50:57 PM
As you can see that BTC is the largest crypto among all in the market, I just really do not understand why people like to claim that BTC is about to die, do not easily fall for these kinds of topics and think that Bitcoin is dying, put some research on it, its just another person's opinion but again it is misleading. One last thing before you reply, this is extremely important and might be a big help for you (especially for newbies) avoid agreeing with such wrong info given to you, be sure to take extra care in replying, and the most important part of all is that you should make some research and do not forget to read the thread (if necessary) it is also important as you can gain new information from other people, though just make sure that what you are reading is very much legitimate.


Thank you and feel free to respond, I wanna see your insights about this.

If I got a dime for every time the news media reports that the industry of bitcoin will die, I have enough money to invest in bitcoin. The funny thing is that every time they saw that the prices is dropping, they are spreading FUDs immediately But then bitcoin suddenly increases in demand and shake them. I know bitcoin is strong because its loyal community is always there whenever someone is spreading false information about it.
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin is it the Future of Banking ? on: July 21, 2018, 10:27:09 PM
i was thinking about the Bitcoin and it's Future in Banking . can it remplace money in transactions ?

As far as I can see, the government won't allow this to happen because they won't able to put tax on it, and if they can, it will just cause more issues. But I do believe that bitcoin and all other cryptocurrencies can reach the same level of fiat. The future is still untold so many things can still happen. So we will just wait patiently and keep faith to this industry.
19  Economy / Speculation / Re: Market confidence in bitcoin. on: July 21, 2018, 09:38:19 PM
Since the beginning of the year bitcoin prices continue to decline and there are still many bitcoin users who still survive and hope bitcoin will rise again, but in fact the price of bitcoin increase has not been significant and impressed stagnant and continue to fall, what exactly happened, could the market start to get bored, trust against bitcoin begin to decrease and switch to another coin as an alternative. how in your opinion?


Sometimes the market gets boring and stagnant but only for a few occasions especially when it drops in both price and demand. This usually happens after the holiday season when the market for bitcoin becomes so active then everyone needs some time for break. So don't worry and enjoy your 'business trip' here in this industry. Bitcoin will rise once again to top the economy in both fiat and cryptos in the future.
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: My country banned bitcoin. What I can do ? on: July 21, 2018, 09:12:50 PM
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 I love bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. I feel more comfortable doing so and will do whatever that I can to support it. Now tell me how can I work with Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies? Although it is illegal in my country.

My country Bangladesh.

Apologies if this is not the right place to discuss.
Thanks in advance.

How did the government of Bangladesh banned something that is decentralized? Did they banned the websites for cryptocurrencies?? If they did, you can always virtual private networks to access those sites. I am pretty sure that they cannot trace you back unless you publicize your connection to bitcoin. But the sad part here is that local establishments and industries will not able to operate through bitcoin and it lessens the demand in that country.
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