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181  Economy / Securities / Re: [CRYPTOSTOCKS] (GMP) crowdmining on: April 19, 2014, 01:04:58 PM
Has the new hardware arrived? Is it up and running?

New Hardware arrived.

5 Jupiter online

We promised early this year 750 GH/s

We deliver today 2 TH/s


You promised 10+ TH  from  the 2nd week of march (6 weeks ago).
What is the current hash rate?
The dividend they have been paying out the last couple of weeks seems to indicate that there still at the ~2.5TH mark so they probably only mine with the 5 Jupiters from KnC and possibly some small miners they had before those 5 and still havent got there machines from btcmine.ch or coincraft yet. I think they used to show there current hashrate at there website before, maby its still there.
182  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] BitVPS on: April 17, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
As far as i understand BitVPS has also been breaking there contract with there shareholders after the time at btct.co to as there hasent been any monthly statements made public each months and most or all months they havent paid out dividend to people either so its not only on the time at mpex they broke there contract with the shareholders.
BitVPS is probably also breaking USA laws with there stock that has been issued on an unregulated exchange as probably at least some shareholders is not welthy enouth to be allowed to invest in whatever they choose if they happen live in the usa and is affected by those laws..

So i cant see how you can expect anyone to confirm that they have recieved dividends when you havent paid out dividend for at least most months after btct.co closed or giving you a free pass in this matter, that would be lying and clearly wrong to do.
The way bitcoins and bitcoin stocks works to its basically impossible to garantee or to make it transparent enouth that it isent you or anyone else that works or have worked for bitvps or in some other way would be consithered part of the inner circle or benefit from the process, that is part of the 3/5 of the biggest shareholders or owning those over 50% of the public stocks that you say have agreed to by bought out at the underprice you offer people, so that would invalidate that part to.

If you want people to be able to make any decition at all you need to lay all cards on the table, all missing monthly reports needs to be published and you need to specify all hardware and other things of value that bitvps now owns including fiat, bitcoins and other currencys of course.
None of the links of importance mentioned in this thread earlier seems to work any longer by the way:

https://bitvps.com/Investors/
https://bitvps.com/Investors/December2013.htm
https://bitvps.com/Investors/dec2013.html
https://www.bitvps.com/update.txt
https://www.bitvps.com/septoctexpenses.txt

So those links is of no use to the investors at the moment.

Are you sure that the buyback offer have been announced correctly, accourding to us laws, is 5-7 or whatever days you mentiond correct, isent such matter supposed to be send out by normal mail and to all shareholders and not only by email and to the one you have an emailadress to send to and with a timeframe of at least 1 month or something like that unless specal conditions is mentioned in the contract, well who knows maby us laws is that crazy, all shareholders in the usa probbaly knows exactly what applies to stocks in the usa and can clear that up.

Are you certain that simple majority is enoth for a buyback/forced buyback, dont you need qualified mayority, 2/3 or 3/4 or something like that, in many countrys you will need more than 50% for important decitions, as you claimed you had been talking to a lawyer and if you were following your lawyers adwise on the part where you thretened to illegally steal peoples share without paying people anything, that lawyers advise cant be of much value.
If there is a forced buyback everyone is of course entitled to getting payed whether or not they are willing to throw away some of there time to sign a message that you still havent managed to define what the exact content of it should be.
183  Economy / Securities / Re: [Cryptostocks]GET365 - Getcoin365 Clarification please on: April 12, 2014, 05:54:13 PM
Does anyone know who they are at all?
Kumala/Cryptostocks should have the IP(s) GET365 log in from but apart from that there probably isent much info known on most issuer that has "none" as verification level on Cryptostock.
184  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: April 12, 2014, 05:30:22 PM
I am an investor with 100K shares
I went to neo office and is still there the bank is still there the software cpmpany is there and fully fanctioning so what the hell all say are all lost nothing is lost.

Oh ok, 100k shares in nee & bee or Ukyo loan you mean ?
I think most people on bitcointalk is reacting on how the stock is handled and on the information or lack of information from official representative from the company, not how the actual offices of nee&bee is effected or not as most people isent based locally in Cyprus and have no way to easy check whats going on there. Thats probably why people react like you say they do.
185  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 11, 2014, 05:43:50 PM
Does anyone expect they'll be paid pack for this defaulted loan?
hopefully!
Yes i expect that Ukyo and Graet will pay back there loans. Both of them should have had investments in the btcworld worth a lot even after the prices on the 3 exchanges took a dive, hopefully they have somehow been able to use at least part of there holdings from those or assets in the physical world to generate or buy a lot more bitcoins since then.
186  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] BitVPS on: April 11, 2014, 05:14:47 PM
According to RG's original contract, at the time of sale, he was supposed to share the proceeds with the investors. We purchased the entirety of BitVPS for 100 BTC. This included simply a domain name, a handful of customers, and rental contracts for servers which were a huge burden as the company was not profitable at the time (BitVPS owned no assets at this time). RG failed to share the BTC he acquired from us, with the investors. At this point we had no obligation to continue supporting the investors.

On top of this, RG was in breach of his own contract for various reasons. BitVPS was de-listed from MPEX as a result. It is outlined in his contract what should be done, by him, in the case of his contract being breached.

We decided to keep paying out dividends while neglecting the fact that we had no real obligation to do so. We are trying to close this chapter in BitVPS's life in a way where we wont go bankrupt. I understand while this may not seem ideal for all, it is what BitVPS can realistically afford while basing the buyout on numbers from our recent financial statements.

We currently have ~$4,500 in the bank. Most of the money for the buyout was going to come straight out of my pocket. BitVPS is already in debt to me for over $8,000 which I decided to just forget about and start with a clean slate. As mentioned earlier there were two options we felt we had. One being this buyout, and the second option being to declare bankruptcy. As much as we wish we could pay 0.0012 BTC per share, it is literally not possible. This amount, unfortunately, would put us directly into bankruptcy. I shouldn't need to explain where bankruptcy would lead us.

To answer some of the other questions:
-0.025 * 1,000,000 = 25,000 (not 2,500!)
-We will grant a three day grace period (on top of the original 5 business days) to claim your shares. Final day for claiming your shares will be 4/18/2014 (typo, edited the date). We will process claims made after this date only under certain circumstances.
-If you need to find out the BTC address associated with your account just send us an email. As long as you email us within the 5 (8 days including grace period) day time frame, you will not be disqualified.

I hope this answers some of your questions. If you have any further questions (and comments or suggestions) please ask. You will get a much faster response if you are able to msg me on freenode (nick: arij).

Okey thanks for explaining things, basically you bought part of the old company but not it's liability then and most of the problems for BitVPS seems to have happened before you bought it and the fact that btcprice went up a lot the last year probably hasn't made the numbers in btc look any better for the company i guess. The current situation in USA according to how they interpret stocks and similar things not denominated in usd probably haven't made things better either.
187  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] BitVPS on: April 11, 2014, 12:21:18 PM
Good links there with the buyback clause from the listing on Mpex:

"2.2. The Terms of the IPO.

(a) The Directors have elected to divide BitVPS into 1`000`000 (one million) equal non-voting shares with a total equity value of 1`200 BTC (0.0012 BTC each). In the event of liquidation or breach of this Agreement they solemnly promise and warrant to repay all investors holding shares at this minimum value. The Directors through their elected representative solemnly promise and warrant never to issue more shares either on MPEX or any other venue nor in any way to dillute existing shareholders at any point in the future ;"

So it looks like 0.0012 BTC per share is the minimum BitVPS has to offer per share if they like to buy them back.

and the price structure for the first 150 000 shares looks like it was:
 
"(b) Based on the Statements of Profit and Loss published as per 2.1.b above, as well as on evaluation of market demand, future profitability and projected evolution, the Directors have elected to offer in this IPO a total of 150`000 (one hundred thousand) shares, as follows : one block of 30`000 (thirty thousand) shares at a price of 0.0022 BTC each ; one block of 75`000 (seventy-five thousand) shares at a price of 0.0024 BTC each ; one block of 45`000 (fourty-five thousand) shares at a price of 0.0026 BTC each.
(c) The Directors warrant that no further shares will be offered by them for a period of 30 days from the date these offered shares are sold. The Directors further warrant that they will never sell more than half the total shares."

If one assumes that the first 150 000 shares were sold out at there stated price then they raised 30 000 * 0.0022 + 75 000 * 0.0024 + 45 000 * 0.0026 = 66+ 180+117 = 363 BTC there and possibly 700+ btc more if the rest of the shares up to 419 306 that have been sold (accourding to outstanding shares on the link to the btct page) were at 0.0026 or higher price.
188  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] BitVPS on: April 11, 2014, 11:38:59 AM
Thy my offer is serious, what stops you to actually auction your business for 10x+ more rather than scam everyone and face some sort of investigation?
I only have a small amount of shares, my concern is more about what others may loose here that invested in this stock if things isen't handled correct.
The second part of your sentence must be aimed to BitVPS/Nameworld.
189  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Moving Forward/Resolution Process on: April 11, 2014, 11:28:04 AM
Hi I am back I am on my way to Cyprus wait for my news


1 post you got sofar on bitcointalk CAFE NEO,  who are you ?
190  Economy / Securities / Re: BTC-Rating IPO on: April 11, 2014, 12:24:36 AM
Pitch:
Bitcoin users want to experience better safety while dealing with exchange platforms.
Several example of failure could have been avoided if there was an independent auditing service to warn users.

BTC-Rating proposes to build a standard with good practices for exchange platforms and will propose auditing services to evaluate exchanges’ ability to provide a trustable service.

www.btc-rating.com

Presentation:
BTC-Rating is a Swiss initiative, which takes its roots early 2013.
We are a group of people passionate about bitcoin and we are hardly working to improve the bitcoin ecosystem.

The bitcoin ecosystem needs self-regulation in order to add a layer of trust between bitcoin exchanges users and operators. BTC-Rating is the first initiative, which is intending to bring this layer of trust, auditing exchange platforms and providing a trust grade for each of them.

BTC-Rating will act as a consulting company, providing consulting services to its clients:

  • Audit services
  • Credit rating of bitcoin companies
  • Bitcoin business consulting

As an actor of the bitcoin ecosystem, and being the first provider of professional and reliable rating services of exchange platforms, we will take advantage of this exponentially growing environment and generate  at least 50k USD/months before the end of the first operating year.

Why a fund raising:
We would like to raise 420 BTC to be able to kickstart our venture. This capital will be spend to:

  • Rent office in Switzerland
  • Hire IT security expert
  • Marketing
  • Attend conferences
  • Visit first clients

Social responsibility:
We believe that our initiative should bring a good image of bitcoins to the large public. This is why we will encourage NGOs and Charities to advertise their actions on our website.

As much as we can, we’ll audit them for free, to report to bitcoin users about their activities.

Legal and structure:
The company will be registered in Switzerland and will be managed as a decentralized autonomous company (DAC).

Issue details:
We issue 420'000, non-dilutable stocks, at the price of 0.001 BTC each, representing 20% of the company.

The company will be regulated with a democratic system:

There are tow sorts of voting rights:
1/By shares of the company, where 1% of the shares represents 1% of the voting rights
2/The board, formed by the 12 persons with the highest number of shares

Questions will have to be approved by double majority: the majority of shareholders and the majority of the board

A question will be addressed to the shareholders when:
  The majority of the board wants to address a question to shareholders
or
  20% of the shareholders submit a question


Dividends and reporting:
Dividends will be paid quarterly, while issuing a quarterly report with:

  • Detailed activity report
  • Financial report
  • Summary of the strategy for the following quarters

Buying shares & publication of shares:
For this IPO, you can send your bitcoin at: 18qWgGk9dhaGdAoqgdqaB3jZH8ZB4SDDaQ

Make sure you use a personal wallet and that you are not sending Bitcoin from an exchange platform. If you’re sending from an exchange anyway, please PM me so we can adapt your return address in our database (you'll have to prove that the payment is yours). This will be important to pay dividends.

The list of shares vs. bitcoin address will be published on the website so you can see yours.

PM us to apply for a board membership.

DAC:
There are several options under development such as Ethereum, Mastercoin, Bitshares… to run a DAC. As soon as BTC-Rating will be mature enough, we’ll decide democratically on which platform to go.

Board:
To be a member of the board, you must have control of at least 5% of the shares of the company and you must apply (currently, sending a PM). The communication between board members will be organized, sharing email addresses.

Modification of the status:
A modification of the voting structure has to be approved by 60% of shareholders and 66% of the board.
A modification of the status (except voting structure) has to be approved by 51% of shareholders and 7 board members (51%).

Current team:
We are active in the bitcoin community since late 2012 in Switzerland (and another country where Bitcoins are illegal;)
If you want a personalized contact, do not hesitate to PM
2 posts sofar on bitcointalk, who are you, whats your real bitcointalk account.

I hope you mean that you are working hard to improve it, not that "and we are hardly working to improve the bitcoin ecosystem."

420btc/20% so you valuate the company at 2100 btc, thats a lot, whats the full registered name and adress and so on for the company in swiss.

If you issue 20% shares to the public and keep 80% yourself(or your group) and there should be 12 boardmembers how do you expect to have 11 other public investors to have control of at least 5% of the shares, your math don't add up, unless...
there really already is a group of at least 9+ people thats behind this company and having relatively evenly spread out ownership in the company, 5% * 9 = 45% of the owned shares, please state the full information on those 9+ boardmembers.

What exchange platforms have BTC-Rating been rating since early 2013, where has the rating scores for all companys you have been continually rating (month by month?) since early 2013 been avaliable since then.

So the public shareholders have no way to raise a question if there is at least 1 public share is owned by you/your current group and you(/your group) is against the question and there is no possibillity for public shareholders to get a questions approved if you(r) current group is against the question.

Who is/will be paying for your service, how will you generate profit for dividends ?
191  Economy / Securities / Re: [BTC-TC] BitVPS on: April 10, 2014, 11:21:29 PM
Quote from: the email
To whom it may concern,

After review with our general counsel we have decided that the only viable method as a company
is to perform a share buy-back.
What did the contract with BitVPS shareholder say about buyback, was it mentioned in it and how should the price be calculated.

Quote from: the email
To this end we plan to carry out the buy back in a timed fashion. This
means we will place a constraint on eligibility of inclusion. For
clarification purposes this has been set at five (5) business days from
the public release of this letter. If, after five (5) business days, we
have received no response your shares will enter forfeiture and be
returned to BitVPS.
This cannot however you look at it be legal, to steal shares from those that check there mail less than once a week.
How do you define business days by the way, mo-fr 5 days a week as business days or all 7 days in a week as business day ?
How is the public release date/time defined was/is it the day/time you posted it somewhere, on your homepage maby or will you post it here on bitcointalk, i dont see in that the mail that you send out that it was dated with day and time.
So what time & day was/is the release time and what time and day is the latest you want shareholders to answer if they accept your offer ?

Quote from: the email
To sufficiently prove ownership of the associated shares & email
address we will require you to respond from the associated email and
also provide a signed message with the address receiving dividends from
BitVPS.

Have bitVPS been paying out dividend after BTCTs closure ?
Witch address did you pay to and what amount per share and what date & time was these payouts made for the months that has been after the closure so people know what address you want them to sign messages from, is it the public address most people entered at btct ?

Quote from: the email
Signed message "BitVPS Investor" should be provided with the
aforementioned address.
Is that(BitVPS Investor) the exact text that should be in the the signed message ?

Quote from: the email
Example of successful notification for repayment

1. Shareholder confirms the following:
a. That they’ve been receiving dividend payouts
b. Bitcoin address used for payouts
c. signature with associated Bitcoin address
d. E-mail address associated with the provided Bitcoin address
2. Shareholder is paid $0.025 USD for each share of BitVPS in their
possession via Bitcoin. To further provide an offer of a fair rate of
exchange we will use coinbase.com 24 hour average at the time of
payback.
1 a You need to inform shareholders when and how much per share that was payed out as dividend after btct's closure so they can see if you have been paying out the dividend and if the correct amount has been payed out as it can be hard to see what payouts have come from btvps when some people might have had shares in a lot of company's that has been paying out dividend after the closure.

Quote from: the email
Buy Back Calculations

To ensure this was calculated fairly we used a formula based on profit &
loss over the last 2 months. This ensured an average of recent turnover
to obtain a suitable price. Once this was obtained we performed an
upward rounding to the nearest three (3) decimal places.

     To this end we have calculated the price to be $0.025/share. This
was derived from taking the average of the final dividends paid for the
last 2 public statements of BitVPS
, and multiplying it by 12, for 12
months. Then finally dividing it by one (1) million for the shares and
rounding to the nearest third (3) decimal place.

     If you have any questions or issues, please do not hesitate to
contact us as soon as possible.
Who came to the conclusion that the last 2 public statements dividend should be the base for the buyback price, where is those statements published and for what months are they and how has the statements that you haven't published after those looked like and how is the future profit for the company expected to look like, are the last 2 monthly statements representative to BitVPS past and future expected profits.
Is BitVPS only expected to earn 12 times the avg monthly profit of those 2 months for the entire future ?
Is it regulated in the contract with the shareholders that only 12 times the monthly profit for an arbitrary chosen period should be used for calculating the base for buyout price, that sounds very strange then ?
Can you please publish all months statements from the time bitVPS started selling shares to the public up until the last one for mars 2014 so people can have a closer look at how the offer is related to past performance.

0.025usd per share sounds extremely low compared to what the share was traded at, a more reasonable buyback price would be something like the estimated profit per share for the next 10 years or something.
What was the avg sellprice of the BitVPS stock in BTC and USD when they were issued ?

Hello everyone,

We would like to apologize for the lack of communication that we have maintained with our investors over the last few weeks. There have been some big developments going on internally. We will email all investors before the end of March with some big news relating to shares and the future of BitVPS.

Sincerely,
BitVPS
It looks like you forgot to tell shareholders what the big development that has been going on internally was, did you strike a great deal with some big company or something ?
192  Economy / Services / Re: I Will Pay You To Mine With CEX.IO on: April 09, 2014, 10:53:02 PM

Profitable ?? You have to explain me because, according to my calculations it is not :

0.01124000*100GH = 1.124807 BTC

date (dd/mm/yy)    days    days added     +diff                       diff   gain in BTC   gain added   FIAT minus electricity   FIAT added
8/4/14                 10.2          10.2          0.00%   6,119,726,089   0.08256544   0.08256544   33                        33
18/4/14                 15          25.2          19.15%   7,291,653,635   0.09966282   0.18222827   39                        72
3/5/14                 15          40.2          20.00%   8,749,984,362   0.07973026   0.26195852   30                        102
18/5/14                 15          55.2          20.00%   10,499,981,234   0.06378421   0.32574273   23                        125
2/6/14                 15          70.2          20.00%   12,599,977,481   0.05102737   0.37677010   17                        143
17/6/14                 15          85.2          20.00%   15,119,972,978   0.04082189   0.41759199   13                        155
2/7/14                 15          100.2       20.00%   18,143,967,573   0.03265751   0.45024951   9                        165
17/7/14                 15          115.2       20.00%   21,772,761,088   0.02612601   0.47637552   6                        171
1/8/14                 15          130.2       20.00%   26,127,313,305   0.02090081   0.49727633   4                        175
16/8/14                 15          145.2       20.00%   31,352,775,966   0.01672065   0.51399697   2                        177
31/8/14                 15          160.2       20.00%   37,623,331,160   0.01337652   0.52737349   1                        177
15/9/14                 15          175.2       20.00%   45,147,997,392   0.01070121   0.53807470   -1                        177

So you spend 1.124 and may get back 0.538 BTC after 5.84 months ?

Do CEX.IO charge fees ? What happen when the price of electricity > gain ??

Yes they charge a maintenance fee(electricity/hosting/repair), i think it was slightly over 12% of the mining incomes last time i looked at there site, it's probably slightly more now.
Recently they announced there about to charge fees(0,2-0,5%?) when people trade there GH to.
193  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending on: April 08, 2014, 07:02:05 PM
There is a message at there blog now.

"Securiy Updates

BTCjam has gone offline for security updates with our servers. We will be back online soon with the site resuming as normal. All automatic payments will continue to go through. If you experience a late payment, please e-mail support@btcjam.com. Thank you."
194  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTCjam - Any Thoughts or Experiances on: April 08, 2014, 06:59:52 PM
There's a message at there blog now.

"Securiy Updates

BTCjam has gone offline for security updates with our servers. We will be back online soon with the site resuming as normal. All automatic payments will continue to go through. If you experience a late payment, please e-mail support@btcjam.com. Thank you."
195  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: BTCjam - Any Thoughts or Experiances on: April 08, 2014, 06:28:46 PM
There is some problem with btcjam's site today.

Btcjam support please respond, ballance incorrect on my account, many btc missing, site down at the moment to and no response on emails yet.

Edit: Balance has been corrected and site has been up and running for quite some time now.
196  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: [ANN] BTCJam - Peer to Peer Bitcoin Lending on: April 08, 2014, 04:55:24 PM
Btcjam support please respond, ballance incorrect on my account, many btc missing, site down at the moment to and no response on emails yet.

Edit: Balance has been corrected and site has been up and running for quite some time now.
197  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 04:21:19 AM
Managed to login and see what I am owed. A step forward,thanks
Dose anyone that can login to this portal? I have finish the registration ,but I can't login with the user name and password. also there nothing error indication, the only things is i stay in the same page , when I am login.
I have not been able to login with my username/password and no answer from Ukyo either yet.

I got the same problem... I am really patience less, why don't you join me ? THY?
I want to give Ukyo the benefit of a doubt for a while longer.
 
I also think that if it in the end will have to come to a lawsuit, that people have to sue Ukyo to get the money back, it should be one common lawsuit with all(or almost all) people ukyo owes money to keep the costs down for all parties and preferrably we could find some lawyers that will take a percentage of what they manage to regain then, lets say 10% or something, if the case is for around 8 000 btc in total, Ukyo loan and weexchange balance. It would mean up to 800 btc @ probably 1000-10000 usd per coin in 6-12 months time, 800 000 - 8 000 000 usd for the lawyer, should be more than enouth one thinks for the lawyer for a relatively easy case like this.
198  Economy / Securities / Re: FASBIT - THE EXCHANGE YOU OWN. on: April 08, 2014, 04:19:07 AM
That looks strange.
Cryptostocks price 0.0001 btc @ 450 usd/btc => 0.045 usd or 4.5 cents per share
Fiat sent to your address 0.05 cents per share => 0.00000111 btc per share, only 1.11% of the price per share you charge at cryptostocks ??

I think you have something wrong on your math.

,0001 BTC x 450.00 USD = .045 USD per share - that is pretty close to .05 USD

PS... Dont mail me a nickle...   Grin
Yes 0.045 usd is pretty close to 0.05 usd but i thought ".05 cents USD" meant 0.05 US cents or 0.0005 USD.
Are you sure you don't want cents and nickles, wasen't there metal value above the fiat value before, maby not anymore and i guess the usgov's silly law from a few years ago against melting down coins should prevent profit from those coins anyway.

yea...they switched to zinc with copper coating...  i dont know why we even have pennies or nickels...they are worthless..
maybe if you have a few thousand of them laying around...im game...  i will even take SEK ... isnt that your currency?
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Yea Sweden still have SEK as there currency, no Euro here, even thou we're part of EU nowadays, so when i'm in Sweden that's still our local currency here. But who uses fiat these days, isen't USA more or less bankrupt like Greece now to, we should probably all skip the worthless paper money's for good and only use gold or BTC in the future.
199  Economy / Securities / Re: [BitFunder] Ukyo.Loan - Paying 0.05% daily. on: April 08, 2014, 03:37:17 AM
I have not been able to login with my username/password and no answer from Ukyo either yet.

you have to login with email not username, just tried, login is working.
I did try with what the site said you should use, email and password but as my password was longer than one can enter it does not work to login, i'll wait for Ukyo to fix it or say how i should proceed.
200  Economy / Securities / Re: FASBIT - THE EXCHANGE YOU OWN. on: April 08, 2014, 03:22:50 AM
That looks strange.
Cryptostocks price 0.0001 btc @ 450 usd/btc => 0.045 usd or 4.5 cents per share
Fiat sent to your address 0.05 cents per share => 0.00000111 btc per share, only 1.11% of the price per share you charge at cryptostocks ??

I think you have something wrong on your math.

,0001 BTC x 450.00 USD = .045 USD per share - that is pretty close to .05 USD

PS... Dont mail me a nickle...   Grin
[/quote]Yes 0.045 usd is pretty close to 0.05 usd but i thought ".05 cents USD" meant 0.05 US cents or 0.0005 USD.
Are you sure you don't want cents and nickles, wasen't there metal value above the fiat value before, maby not anymore and i guess the usgov's silly law from a few years ago against melting down coins should prevent profit from those coins anyway.
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