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As much as I dislike SD's (and other's) abuse of the blockchain, this is a bad idea. First, any idea that is admitted to be "temporary" should be suspected of being a bad idea. Second, IMHO, it is philosophically wrong -- at best a band-aid for a bigger problem that needs a different solution. Third, it's debatable whether or not this change will alter the behavior of those (ab)using the blockchain. The motivation of gamblers is different. I don't see how it will have any impact on them, other than to change the "dust" amount from 1 unit to 5430 units. Those storing data in the blockchain will just move data around in units of 5430 Satoshi, rather than disposing of units of 1 Satoshi. But fourth, I fear the technical issues have not been fully considered, and that's my main objection to this scheme...
One technical problem noted somewhere in this thread is how do you deal with change that's under the limit. If you are a "bitcoin millionaire", it's probably not much of a problem. If you are just starting out, it might be a significant problem. Say you have 0.01005429 BTC to your name. One rule says you can't spend less than 0.01. This new rule says you can't spend between 0.01000000 and 0.01005428. (I haven't looked at the code. Does the client fail? Are you forced to overpay the recipient? Are you forced to pay your change as part of your "fee"?)
If you overpay the recipient, I suspect there are some automated systems that either (1) won't accept the payment or (2) might attempt to send your change back. You are requiring modification to any such automated system that now exists. You are also requiring modification to every other standard bitcoin client (else some transactions that used to go through will not go through). And you are requiring potential modification to every application that generates its own transactions. This proposed modification has consequences far beyond the official Satoshi client, and as far as I can tell, there has been no general solicitation of comments.
Similarly, what if you have one account with just slightly more funds than needed for a transaction. Does the client automatically choose a second account to make sure the change is at least 5430 Satoshis? I thought one of the goals of the client was to avoid mixing payment sources as much as possible to maintain some "privacy". Although this shouldn't happen often, if you are dealing with random amounts between a bitcent or two, it seems this would occur about 1 in 300 such transactions. (Again, not a problem for "bitcoin millionaires", but a potential problem for those just starting out.)
Another technical problem noted (but dismissed as irrelevant by some developers) is the increased window for double-spends. Deny it if you want, but when each mining pool (and each full node) can choose parameters to decide whether or not a transaction is to be relayed, I think the surface area for double-spends has increased significantly.
Related to the above is the question of a node's "banscore". I haven't examined the code. If node B receives a transaction from node A, which node B thinks is non-standard, does node B bump node A's banscore? I won't speculate on the implications until I look at the code, because this might be a red herring.
Finally, in many respects, you are trying to achieve results similar to that of a "5430 to 1 reverse stock split". Of course, I'm not actually proposing this! But some of the things corporations and stock exchanges go through when handling a reverse stock split might be considered in handling this proposed change. Do you want to consider making every transaction output a multiple of 5430 Satoshis? If it were a more round number, such as 5000 Satoshis, this might actually make sense. For your very small "stockholders", the way I see it, you are changing the value of very small balances from "economically unspendable" to "practically unspendable". To avoid a perceived hit in public confidence, the Bitcoin Foundation should send up to 5429 Satoshis to every address now containing 1 Satoshi of "dust". (Or whatever amount is necessary to bring every address up to the minimum spendable amount.)
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No I used WinRAR. Been around computers for years, I know bullshit when I see it.
Nope its obvious you dont, Many other have been able to download it just fine. |
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I downloaded it, When I ran it I got a Framework error, while 2 processes showed up I couldn't kill. Had to do a system restore.
Its a zip file did you try opening with winzip? |
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If you still havent got it theres a serious problem, contact btc-e support.
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C´mon if I have a robot that works I can become milionaire from few dollars thanks to compounding interest, why to sell it? Scam
Really? Become a millionaire off a day trading bot? You gotta be joking. Again, no im not a scammer. If you can find one person whos ever been scammed by me bring them forth. |
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This isnt a scam, Im marketing my product. And by the way the rapidchris guy copied MY website. He changed the color and a few things on the site and acted like he owned the software.
RAPIDCHRIS IS A SCAMMER, IM NOT.
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The first sentence on the ripple.com "Send money in dollars, euros, yen or Bitcoin. No added work or fees for foreign transactions." However how this works in practice is pretty much unexplained in the ripple.com or at least I could not find it.
Could someone write or draw a complete explanation how the currency exchange feature works. Lets say Alice is newcomer to ripple but she has yen bills in her pocket and wants to buy a computer from a webshop that wants to see no other currency than USD but has previously done business with a ripple gateway.
The explanation should cover the issues that what is the full set of what ripple-introduced currencies or IOUs are possible to be involved in the process and what choices Alice has to herself how to use the system?
The wiki does not clearly explain what are all the places that have any significance where XRP is used and for what? I heard from someplace that it funds all OpenCoin functions generously, but wiki says OpenCoin only gives them away for free and the only place they are ever used in the whole system is for silly small transaction costs. Somehow I don't think I understand. The same for various IOUs? Does the distributed ledger track all various IOUs or only XRPs? What is a role of user-IOUs? Do such things exist in the system?
What happens to the external currencies? Where does the yen bill end up to? Where do the dollar bills to the merchant come from? How does the gateway business operate in typical moneyflow? I mean what is the typical business of how a gateway connected to a very big merchant operate? How does some gateway that refuses to serve any merchants and only accepts ordinary people that typically want to deposit their paycheck in dollars to buy stuff from some outside rippleshop operate as money-flow in all different kinds of currencies/IOUs that a gateway should handle? For simplicity you could assume only one type of fiat money accepted per each gateway.
What exchange rates are used in each step? What mechanism sets them and where?
Where and by whom is what XRP is worth in dollars determined? How much is an 1USD-BobsGatewayIOU worth in dollars? Where do the gateways get their profit or cover their expenses fulfilling the promise on the first sentence of ripple.com that there are no fees.
What is the complete list of parties that Alice must trust in this example one transaction? Who are the parties that the webshop needs to trust? Who are the parties that either gateway needs to trust? I mean for example which entities could leave Alice with a headache if they do some oddity including suddenly disappearing or claiming they have been hacked and lost all data and funds to thieves? What information Alice has to make judgement about these entities? Is it expected and typical that people are able to make sound decisions based on that amount of information? The answer could include examples from bitcoin-world. Which entities in bitcoin-world are such that there is enough information some random person is able to make an informed decision on and just not guesswork that they seem to have operated for a whole year meaning they must be good? What improvements are planned for ripple? OpenCoin could be in a position to force a minimum standard to all players. For example information about are the gateways financially healthy? Has a gateway been recently sold to a price that is a fraction of the user funds they are storing to some strange person nobody has heard of increasing the chance they are soon experiencing a declaration of a hack and loss of the funds?
These from just the top of my head. I did try to find answers to these but no success so far.
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Ran multiple spyware checks on the trial download, all checked out so I downloaded it and it seriously blew my expectations away!  By far the best trade bot I've ever used. OP, what is included in the full version thats not already in trial version? Glad you like it, theres a few more perks in the full version including increased trade limit, VIP status in chat, and quicker trade speeds, and much more to come in future updates. |
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BTC-E TRADING BOT Hello and welcome to my first ever BTC-E Trading Bot! I can not stress enough how much of a gamechanger this tool is, it allows you to trade 24/7, Buy and sell at best times, an auto trade option that buys/sells at dips or upswings, and much more.
Im absolutely stoked with the response this trading bot has enjoyed, its only been released for 2 days and quite a few people have bought the full program, and many others use the trial version. This trading bot only works on BTC-E, However I am currently working on releasing trade bots for mtgox and vircurex, expect to see them within the next month.
Looking back it was definitly worth the over 3 months of grueling work, the bot runs magnificently, and has already generated me a significant profit through personal use in daytrading. Special Thanks to Jray54 for his HTML coding help, without his expertise I still would have been trying to fix that damn bug!   In the first tab we are greeted with your available funds, information straight from BTC-e about the how the market is doing.  This is the automatic mode tab, also known as where all the magic happens! Automatically buy the currency of your choice when it drops to a price you set! Automatically sell the currency of your choice when it reaches the price you want to sell at! (Both these options have handly add-on's which allow you to choose a variance in % too!) Very handy for when other countries are trading when you are in bed, missing out on all the bargains and peaks for selling!  Within this tab you can choose to receive e-mail alerts and/or make a sound notifying you the price has fallen / risen to your desired amount. We've also added another handy little feature where if you choose to enable e-mails alerts, you can include details if you bought and/or sold at that price!  settings usually scare some users a little when they are faced with many options they don't understand - But not to worry, we've made it super easy to get started and all you need is your API details and optionally an e-mail address if you would like to receive e-mail alerts. If your interested in this software you can download the Trial Version, please keep in mind it does not have all the perks that the full version has. By donating, or buying the full version you allow me to continue making updates!
Interested? Visit The Website! http://btc-etradingbot.netEnjoy!
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FBI Is trying to bring down Bitcoin, after all, its their job they are hired to protect the federal monetary system.
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Im going to show up, il be the guy in the green yankees hat  |
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Not sure about this one lol
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Amazon coin brings "worthlessness" to a whole new level.
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lol very funny thread |
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BTC-E TRADING BOT Hola y bienvenidos a mi primer Bot Trading BTC-E nunca! No puedo hacer suficiente hincapié en la cantidad de un GameChanger esta herramienta es que le permite operar 24/7, comprar y vender en el mejor momento, una opción comercio de automóviles que compra / vende a caídas o alzas, y mucho más.
Im totalmente alimentado con la respuesta de este robot de comercio ha disfrutado, su único sido puesto en libertad por 2 días y un buen número de personas que han comprado el programa completo, y muchos otros utilizan la versión de prueba. Este robot de comercio sólo funciona en BTC-E, pero actualmente estoy trabajando en la liberación de los robots comerciales para mtgox y vircurex, espero verlos en el próximo mes.
En retrospectiva, fue sin duda vale la pena los más de 3 meses de intenso trabajo, el robot ejecuta magníficamente, y ya me ha generado un beneficio significativo a través de uso personal en daytrading.
Un agradecimiento especial a Jray54 por su ayuda codificación HTML, sin su conocimiento todavía habrían estado tratando de arreglar el maldito bicho!En la primera pestaña que son recibidos con los fondos disponibles, información directamente de BTC-e sobre la forma en que el mercado está haciendo. Esta es la ficha modo automático, también conocido como donde sucede toda la magia! Comprar automáticamente la moneda de su elección cuando se desciende a un precio establecido! Vender automáticamente la moneda de su elección cuando se alcanza el precio que desea vender a! (Ambas opciones han Handly add-on de lo que le permiten elegir una variación en% también!) Muy útil para cuando otros países están negociando cuando estás en la cama, perdiendo todos los negocios y los picos de venta! En esta ficha, puede optar por recibir alertas por correo electrónico y / o hacer un sonido que le notifica que el precio ha bajado / elevado a la cantidad deseada. También hemos añadido otra característica poco práctico donde si decide habilitar las alertas de correo electrónico, puede incluir detalles si usted compró y / o vendido a ese precio! configuración suele asustar a algunos usuarios un poco cuando se enfrentan a muchas opciones que no entienden - Pero no se preocupe, lo hemos hecho muy fácil para empezar y todo lo que necesita es su detalles de la API y, opcionalmente, una dirección de correo electrónico si usted desea recibir alertas por correo electrónico. ¿Interesado? visite el sitio web! http://btc-etradingbot.netDisfrute!
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It works good, no complaints. I trade a lot more on vircurex then I do BTC-E I will definitly buy your vircurex trade bot as soon as it comes out.
Im working on the vircurex trade bot just as we speak, Im trying really hard to release it before 3 weeks is up. |
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Confirmed no spyware, looks really professional and works like a charm. THANK YOU! EDIT: Bought full version, isnt much of a difference but glad to give support. Thanks for buying the full version! Right now there isnt much of a difference then trial version, but I have a lot of cool things coming up soon for those with full version! |
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Ran multiple spyware checks on the trial download, all checked out so I downloaded it and it seriously blew my expectations away! By far the best trade bot I've ever used. OP, what is included in the full version thats not already in trial version? Glad you like it, theres a few more perks in the full version including increased trade limit, VIP status in chat, and quicker trade speeds, and much more to come in future updates. |
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BTC-E TRADING BOT Hello and welcome to my first ever BTC-E Trading Bot! I can not stress enough how much of a gamechanger this tool is, it allows you to trade 24/7, Buy and sell at best times, an auto trade option that buys/sells at dips or upswings, and much more.
Im absolutely stoked with the response this trading bot has enjoyed, its only been released for 2 days and quite a few people have bought the full program, and many others use the trial version. This trading bot only works on BTC-E, However I am currently working on releasing trade bots for mtgox and vircurex, expect to see them within the next month.
Looking back it was definitly worth the over 3 months of grueling work, the bot runs magnificently, and has already generated me a significant profit through personal use in daytrading. Special Thanks to Jray54 for his HTML coding help, without his expertise I still would have been trying to fix that damn bug! In the first tab we are greeted with your available funds, information straight from BTC-e about the how the market is doing. This is the automatic mode tab, also known as where all the magic happens! Automatically buy the currency of your choice when it drops to a price you set! Automatically sell the currency of your choice when it reaches the price you want to sell at! (Both these options have handly add-on's which allow you to choose a variance in % too!) Very handy for when other countries are trading when you are in bed, missing out on all the bargains and peaks for selling! Within this tab you can choose to receive e-mail alerts and/or make a sound notifying you the price has fallen / risen to your desired amount. We've also added another handy little feature where if you choose to enable e-mails alerts, you can include details if you bought and/or sold at that price! settings usually scare some users a little when they are faced with many options they don't understand - But not to worry, we've made it super easy to get started and all you need is your API details and optionally an e-mail address if you would like to receive e-mail alerts. If your interested in this software you can download the Trial Version, please keep in mind it does not have all the perks that the full version has. By donating, or buying the full version you allow me to continue making updates!
Interested? Visit The Website! http://btc-etradingbot.net[Moderator note: Please stay alert for trojans/virus/keyloggers - the forum is not responsible for what you download.]Enjoy!
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I mine Bitcoins, I live in Houston, Texas.
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