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1  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [SCAM] BT user zolace on: October 01, 2014, 03:25:54 PM
So let me get this straight. Zolace gave someone the wrong address for payment and he's now refusing to refund the buyer?

Seems also zolace has several accounts: latinna, umair127 and probably noviapriani. He sent me PM by mistake from umair127 instead of zolace and replied "Never mind ..." in 30 sec from zolace account.

Interesting. It's quite obvious just from mere observation that noviapriani, umair127, sana8410, Rigon and more recently
Mr Bitty all belong to the same person and I guess it now makes sense that zolace is the guy behind them all.

Edit: Confirmed alts:

vevo ;u=319158    

Zolace got greedy. No idea why he would try scam for such a relatively small amount when he must've been making some serious coin chatting away to himself.

Also, called it earlier:

When you eliminate a source of knowledge…You become an idiot…People behave the same today as they behaved than, strangely every things the same…Actually one of the best arguments against evolution is the fact that we haven't changed…Still full of greed, envy, all of the vices…Behaviors have remain the same.

My road to belief led to the point that god did not exist.  If god doesn't exist, nothing matters.  Loving, striving, doing the right thing are all purposeless.  There is not enough in any one of them to keep going.  Also, if god doesn't exist, how did everything come to be?  Whatever rationale, god had to have come up with it.  Either evolution, the big bang, no matter what, someone had to have designed it.

Otherwise, why bother.  Let it all hang out.  Anything goes.  You only live once.

What does either of these have to do with what characterizes an atheist? Not to mention they're both pretty naive reasons for belief. Also, it always makes me laugh to see you two 'debating' when you're obviously the same person Roll Eyes.

  WTF I am on the list?Huh??    I just saw my neg rating and im being called zolace???
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Best solution’: Elderly Belgium couple plan joint euthanasia on: October 01, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
I'm telling you, soylent green may not have been as much of a dystopian future fantasy as we might like to think.
Recently read in the Atlantic the 58 year old man whose name I've forgotten an essay on why he doesn't want to live longer than 75 - or, put another way, sees no reason to prolong life much beyond that.  The obvious response is to say "we'll check in with you on that at age 74...".  Lol. 

Ed - link to article above
That is the architect of Obamcare and it is no secret the model works best when folks don't live much longer than that.   Perhaps this opinion is personal (as of now) or perhaps it is political.  But the general tone of the piece is actually much the same as how I feel, and what I tell my family/friends to the same response he gets.  In short, he is NOT a supporter of euthanasia (nor am I) but rather he intends to not engage in life extending treatments (or preventative screenings) past a certain point and just intends to die of whatever takes him. 

As for the OP's creepy that a couple is giddy planning their deaths.   And it also talks about [already legal] euthanasia for chronically ill children.  Welcome to the slippery slope.
You're right.  He says that he's not certain how he's going to feel when older, but rationally calculating, this is the age he puts as representing the last vigorous or creative years.  Qualifies with recognition there are outliers, the centenarian marathon runner, etc.  Linking with soylent green was misleading though not deliberately so, still, the drift, the general tone seems somehow resonant.  Or maybe it is I think the discourse will encourage a sort of life-negating climate.   
3  Other / Off-topic / Re: Home Security Video System's - worth it or waste? on: October 01, 2014, 01:50:53 PM
All the ones I see the video quality appears to be shit. What do they cost for a decent one? This is a discussion not a 'too cheap' scenario. Spend 10k to not see shit sounds like a bad idea.
4  Economy / Lending / Re: Loan needed (BTCJAM Listing) on: October 01, 2014, 11:49:50 AM
your asking for a 10 bitcoin loan?

Can I ask you a question how long to get your account approved?
5  Economy / Services / Re: Pocket Dice Signature Campaign on: October 01, 2014, 11:39:14 AM
ya was going to join but now I have to think about it, 50 post a week was much better, good news another dice campaign is opening this week.

its kinda messed up op did this, cause alot people that joined didnt expect a quick decrease on post as well.
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Ebola has reached America on: October 01, 2014, 10:34:57 AM
Perhaps now would be a reasonable time to begin restricting reentry from high-risk regions, thus discouraging travel. This man probably traveled to Liberia to visit a "sick" relative and was then allowed to board a flight to the US.
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin's "Price" Drop on: October 01, 2014, 09:37:13 AM
far more daily volume are done privately than on bitstampt/btc-e, etc combined. and while the crappy exchanges are falling whilst they play with satoshi dust amounts of $5, the localbitcoins/otc trades are healthily $450-$550

I wish I could sell a bitcoin locally for $550

your not the only wishing so, to sell bitcoins for at least 500 USD,  I think btc priced is way undervalued at this moment.
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Prison for Kicking a Cat? on: September 30, 2014, 07:00:56 PM
I doubt that prison in really in his future--jail, a year or less, is more likely. He won't lose that much time in acquiring whatever skills someone so evidently doltish needs in life, maybe he'll learn a lesson.

At least he won't walk back into million dollar contracts a la Michael Vick--who should still be banned from the NFL.
9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Prison for Kicking a Cat? on: September 30, 2014, 06:46:41 PM
People who abuse animals are one step away from doing the same to people. This sick individual took great joy in inflicting serious injury to this cat,  and even went out of his way to lure the cat in to do it. Do I object to jail time for him? Absolutely not - but I do agree that part of his sentence should be public service at an animal shelter - under the closest of supervision, of course.
But even if he did kick someone, the penalty is not a prison term. There is a reason why this country has the most people in the penal system, and the reason is that they do not think that there are alternatives to imprisonment, when to me it is obvious that there are.
yes, if he kicked the cat in the manner described, he should go to prison. People have to be taught--animals are not toys. If a two year old child pulled the dog's tail, that's what parents would tell them; and for the twenty year olds who never learned the lesson, well, they have to learn it.
10  Other / Off-topic / Re: Looking at a Commuter car came across the 2011 Turbo Regal on: September 30, 2014, 06:45:29 PM
One of GM's best sedans. It's actually an Opel from Germany with Buick logos on it so it's engineered to a higher degree than the US stuff GM sells.
I went and test drove it and was pretty impressed it could benefit from a little more he but it was still a nice drive. Immaculate condition manual trans shifted smooth and only had 28k miles. Still trying to work the price dealer wants $14500 with a $500dealer fee I don't want to pay the fee.
11  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 30, 2014, 06:04:02 PM
Actually, did not my questions come first?

But, to answer, biblically, adultery is always wrong.  And, it is deserving of death.  It is not ok now, if that is what you think changed.  What God chooses to do about may have - and there are still consequences to adultery, even if no one else knows but the two involved.


Your turn.
I want to know whether the original penalty was right or not. So in your god's eyes it is always moral to stone adulterers?
Jesus said, "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.".
Obviously he is demonstrating he doesn't know his ass from his elbow....  no one would cast a stone because the mob was equally guilty of "sin" (generic).
12  Other / Off-topic / Re: My identity has been STOLEN on: September 30, 2014, 05:41:22 PM
Has anyone else experienced this?
I went in to the local IRS office to file and pay my annual taxes.

The lady drew up my SS # and said I had already filed.

I said I had NOT, and she gave me the bogus town I had supposedly filed from. She said they had sent my refund there. I have NEVER received any refund per plan.

I gave her my CPA created tax return and a check for my delta owed, and asked what would happen. She said that two or four agents would go to the bogus address, collect license plate numbers, names from their mailbox, run those names through their system to create a file on the perp.

Once they had all the evidence they needed they would arrest the perp with Fraud charges plus half a dozen others, and take them to trial. She said that unfortunately they would probably be out of prison within a decade.
there is always Karma.  A few years back I had a case of mistaken ident, FUBAR records----  some guy was stopped on a routine traffic stop, gave the cop his DL, which included his name, dob, and pob.  Cop ran W/W and he came up wanted for homicide in state of Washington.  After he was fingerprinted and had spent three days in jail, it turns out he had stolen the identity of someone, got a DL and matching documents, ran up a lot of bills, and the only ID handy when he was stopped was this fraudulent ID.
13  Other / Off-topic / Re: My identity has been STOLEN on: September 30, 2014, 04:51:29 PM
Has anyone else experienced this?
Actually not a lot except for the past few weeks this same Indian (probably Delhi or Calcutta) man keeps calling me because he doesn't have enough sense to take this landline # off his list.  He can't decide if he's from Microsoft Windows or if he's Robert or Michael or Barbara from one day to the next.  One day he wanted very badly to help me get my government grant.  I think he was Margaret that day. 

I've developed this shtick I do with him and have great fun with it.  I'm the addled man (senior) who is very excited to hear from...Nelson, is it?  bearing gifts and concern.
14  Other / Off-topic / Re: My identity has been STOLEN on: September 30, 2014, 04:15:13 PM
A few days ago I received a Walmart card good for up to $400.  Got it registered, but don't think I will use it as I don't like making monthly payments.  Then I received a letter from PayPal that said I had asked for $188.11 credit to shop at Walmart.  Fortunately, they refused me.  I called one credit check company who said they would notify the other two and my account now has an "Alert" on it, and none will take any action of sending a credit report until they call me.

I called Walmart and cancelled the card.

I do my shopping on line and wonder if I should also notify anyone else I shop with, like Chewys for my cat food; Montgomery Ward; Penneys; Overstock.  And I pay my bills with my credit card by calling their 800 numbers - telephone, Montgomery Ward, other bills.

Don't accept or follow up on any unsolicited "gifts" from people you don't know.  That's the first thing.  No one just gifts people out of the blue, for no apparent or fathomable reason, especially if they are fronting for a "business".    The problem as I see it is you are naive to a fault, and suspicious always, particularly when you've been had.  You don't have to invite it in, in the first place.  Long way to say if it seems too good to be true, it usually is.
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 30, 2014, 04:08:11 PM
Whenever I seek to verify something from Scripture, I am sooner or later successful.  It is historically accurate, for example.

In addition, it can be tested.  People's lives are changed in a powerful way in trusting in the risen Jesus that does not happen for those who do not trust.
Conscience is evidence that there is a Creator. Unless you are saying right and wrong are subjective.
Apparently not. If there were a "creator" then it would have "created" everything/everyone equal.
The fact that most people ( certainly not all!) have a conscience and the ability to distinguish between right and wrong, but disagree about the existance of this "creator" is evidence of nothing at all.
16  Other / Off-topic / Looking at a Commuter car came across the 2011 Turbo Regal on: September 30, 2014, 12:34:26 PM
Whats everyone's thoughts on these? they seem to be well priced but i'm not sure how i feel about fwd.....
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How do we defeat ISIS without U.S. Ground Troops? on: September 30, 2014, 12:28:40 PM
Then like locust storms, repeat the same manoeuvre at all other none christian religious gatherings, even down at the ganges river where the religious bathing festival occurs, stuff like that. Should be able to shoot a few dozen million here and there ? It would lessen the none authorised religiousness going on in the world and send a message out, that you don't need either drones or jet power from the skies or troops on the ground, just flying Mohameds with machine guns.

A second wave of firepower could be in the form of 5 million really fit women in bathing suits toting rocket launchers, again with jetpacks, to go after ISIS directly, hiding in their odd small enclaves.
If I get what you're saying...essentially, it might not be a bad thing to let a bad thing fail, then I certainly understand where you're coming from even if I personally don't like the idea of letting something fail.

You have a really good point at the end there.
Basically, yes that's what I'm saying. As an example, slavery was a "bad thing", and it was doomed to fail at some point. Now a proper solution would have been to find a way to end it peacefully, and a worse way was to end it by civil war, but if you're dealing with a collapsed society with shifting alliances such as the middle east as a whole, sometimes the best answer is to watch from a distance.

I don't like the results any better than you do in the short/medium term. I'm just not sold a better answer exists in the real world.
We can't really watch from a distance. We are worried that ISIS will produce another 9/11-style attack. That is why we are so much more involved in the Middle East than before.
18  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 30, 2014, 11:49:42 AM
You believe you were born guilty of something you don't even understand and carry guilt where ever you go, constantly fearing your "creator". A single thought will cause you fear of pissing-off your "creator". You even feel guilty because you may piss-off your "creator" in the future.

If you choose to live that way, that is your choice.
19  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 30, 2014, 11:13:55 AM
In your mind anything can be real as long as you have faith in it. The reason why you can't post anything to back-up your religious claims is because there is simply nothing there.
I'm surprised you are able to function.  Perhaps you don't. In real life people who can't tell reality from fantasy do not function well in society.
My guess is you are a liar. You don't really believe the bullshit you post on these boards. No one could possibly believe as you and function as a normal member of society.
20  Other / Off-topic / Re: Conscience on: September 30, 2014, 11:02:44 AM
You have already shown by your thoughts on conscience that there is a Creator.You are just in denial - and using the word 'mythical' to try to make your case look good (since you cannot put up an honest defense).One cannot say that the unverse does not show design.
And one cannot take the conscience seriously if one denies the Creator.  Not if they are consistent.
If anything frightens me it is what some religious people does to otherwise mentally well-adjusted people. You are a shining example of the dangers.
In the past I've asked you why you don't believe in Santa Claus, and you could never give an answer. That's because in your delusional state of mind there is no clear reason. According to you, all you need do is have faith, and Santa will become just as real as your "creator". If you actually applied common sense and reason to your Santa beliefs, you'd have to apply the same common sense and reason to your creator beliefs, and your delusions would fall like a house of cards. You have to abandon common sense and reason in everything in-order for your religious beliefs to stand up.  That's what happens when you can't tell reality from fantasy, or truth from lies.  To you a lie is simply something that doesn't fit your religious . You can't definatively state the difference between truth and untruth. You can't afford to apply common sense and reason.
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