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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do you think Bitcoin can ruin a Country? on: December 12, 2017, 11:41:27 AM
I think it may not happen.
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Safest way to keep bitcoins? on: December 11, 2017, 10:40:17 PM
Ledger wallet
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Safest way to keep bitcoins? on: December 11, 2017, 10:33:32 PM
Can't you just store your wallet seed on a set of flash drives or sd cards, along with the pc, mac and source tarballs for (say) electrum.org? You can also set up 2-of-2 and 2-of-3 wallets on electrum.
With google inactive account manager (for example), you can set up a dead-man's switch which will send these passwords, encrypted with an AES key that you have already shared with your designated heirs, in the event of your death or incapacitation.
4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Women in the cryptocurrency industry on: December 11, 2017, 10:24:28 PM
Ola Doudin, Bitcoin Leader

Like Ludlum, Ola Doudin is a blockchain entrepreneur who is extending the network internationally. Her company BitOasis is based in Dubai, UAE, where they specialize in instant online exchanges through “bitcoin wallets” on the iPhone and iPad. Co-founded by Doudin only two years ago, BitOasis is currently a leading name in bitcoin technology in the Middle East and North Africa.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Was bitcoin created by artificial intelligence? on: December 11, 2017, 10:14:42 PM
that seems like fake news. A hidden AI system in the web created BTC so humans would give it more computing power lol. There would of been better easier ways for a Super AI system to achieve this.
But there isnt any AI that advanced ATM,

I doubt AI was sufficiently advanced to emulate somebody like Satoshi and his interactions back in 2009-2011. Satoshi in all likelihood was a human or group of humans.
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Indonesian Government Banned Bitcoin on: December 11, 2017, 10:03:22 PM
Indonesian Central Bank is only bluffing. They dislike Indonesian people holding currencies other than rupiah. They don't want us Indonesian people benefiting or being rich from bitcoin. We Indonesians will not subdue to these centralized & corrupt scumbags. I still hold my bitcoins and my other alts. I couldn't wait what they are going to do next week.

Cash in? Not hardly. Get a hardware wallet is what they need to be doing.

Just out of curiosity (and maybe ignorance), why a hardware wallet? Is that so you can keep sending/receiving (is a hardware wallet undetectable by ISPs and central authorities?)... as opposed to a paper wallet which might be useful to bury in the ground somewhere and create a treasure map to find it again.

Hardware wallet is to get your coins off the exchange. It makes them safe nobody can ever touch them. And it keeps the exchange honest.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Indonesian Government Banned Bitcoin on: December 11, 2017, 09:53:50 PM
Indonesian Central Bank is only bluffing. They dislike Indonesian people holding currencies other than rupiah. They don't want us Indonesian people benefiting or being rich from bitcoin. We Indonesians will not subdue to these centralized & corrupt scumbags. I still hold my bitcoins and my other alts. I couldn't wait what they are going to do next week.

Cash in? Not hardly. Get a hardware wallet is what they need to be doing.

Yes in Indonesia they can. They can withdraw money from Bitcoin Indonesia online web trading using Bank Transfer. That's why the central bank goverment threatens to ban banks that support bitcoin transaction.
8  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Indonesian Government Banned Bitcoin on: December 11, 2017, 09:39:03 PM
Banning Bitcoin does not mean that they couldn't use the technology behind it for for example smart cities like you said. They just would use it then in a gouvernment monitored way probably, at least this would be still an option.

Anyways, this is of course again a hard strike against the crypto world. I could imagen that they would go an similar way like China, which will lead into a more regulated way in the end.
9  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin ever be Mainstream? on: December 11, 2017, 05:59:59 PM
However high things get advanced, we won't be getting bitcoin mainstream. It'll always tend to be a technology to serve better than the banking network. Same as the altcoins serving to be the alternative to bitcoin, bitcoin serves as an alternative to the traditional system we follow.

Oh dear. Perhaps we should ban cash?

Thank you for this wonderful suggestion, we will be implementing it soon.

The Government.
10  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin ever be Mainstream? on: December 11, 2017, 05:52:23 PM
The current volatility in the market makes it very dangerous for unassuming investors.

"Ethereum... which had seen its value rise fiftyfold since the start of the year to $300 a coin"

ETH (Ethereum) dropped to nearly 200 dollars per coin from a high of nearly 400 dollars, went up again to 250 and is now around 270 on my exchange. This is in a space of a week.

The speculation is based upon future projections of use but the block chain technology of four years ago, or more, such as BTC or ETH has become dated. Updating it is cumbersome. So, it would be easier to start new currencies for new projects, especially if there are easy to use exchanges to exchange the currencies. The market share of BTC has already been dropping considerably.

I would recommend that no one makes any medium to long term investments in the classic cryptocurrencies, perhaps small amounts on new start ups if one researches the technology and foresee it being scalable.
11  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Do you use Tor? on: December 11, 2017, 12:43:47 PM
No
12  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Sell your house for investment in btc. on: December 11, 2017, 12:23:07 PM
I think nothing special in selling house. House is a possive. You could turn it to an active. One friend of mine lended house and sold his Lexus in May. He returned it in September and made x2 in dollars. So it depends on you.

Exactly my point. You will be better off making the smallest down payment and then getting a 30 year mortgage and keeping the rest in bitcoin.

I know it's old fashioned but I like the idea of just owning it outright from the start.

Nothing like the security of owning your own place outright. Congrats bro!

I second that. Your Housing is not an investment. Own it bro.

I halfheartedly disagree. Can you say you really own something when you need to keep paying for it every year?
In OP's case, he'll need to pay at least a thousand dollar a year every year until he sells it, or until it gets repossessed for not paying.
As to whether or not it's an investment, that depends a lot on where his house is. But even with flat property prices for many years, the current low interest rates, and widely predicted upcoming higher interest rates create an arbitrage opportunity, and a mortgage on a primary home is one of the easiest ways to make that play.
13  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is Bitcoin Forbidden In Islam? Why? on: December 11, 2017, 12:04:07 PM
Excuse my ignorance on the topic but you say short selling is harm, however, I don't think you mentioned what short selling is. I am not familiar with the term. Could you please explain.


Assalamualaikum.
I want to know about my investment with bitcoin.i don't know how to describe my investment etheir it binary or what.
I give example.
I invest 0.005bitcoin.the company have 2package with is
1) 147% profit for 6week, daily profit 4.5%
2) 180% profit for 9week, daily profit 8%.

My question is...It's Halal or Haram?

Waleikum Assalaam wa Rahmatulahi wa Barikahtu Sabrina.

Thank you for your post. In regards to saying whether this scheme is halal or haram, the truth is, I do not know. You say that this website says that in 6 weeks you will have a 147% profit. The question you have to ask is, "HOW are you making the profit?" "WHERE is this profit coming from?" "WHAT METHOD is being used to make the profit?" Once you have an answer to these questions then you can figure out if it is halal or haram.

Insha'Allah within the next 2 weeks I will release the final part of the 4-part "Is Bitcoin Halal Series" and we will talk about investing insha'Allah.

Take care and Salaam

salam alaykum how are you brother? i wanted to find out if bitcoin is halal, 1 of my relatives traded with it,.. im not sure if its the same but its you put a certain amount of money and after a month that money doubles.. is it halal? buying money with money..please explain to me.. JazakaAllah

Allah bless you

Waleikum Assalaam wa Rahmatulahi wa Barikahtu,

I truly cannot say if what your relative did is permissible or not according to the sharia because there is not enough information provided. I do not know what he was trading or how it was traded so I cannot say. In regards to if Bitcoin is halal, Please see the following blog post - http://www.islamandbitcoin....

May Allah guide us all akhi, Ameen.
JazakAllah kheir for the support.
Salaam

Assalaam Alaik,

Jazak Allah Khair.. I'm enriched. I had been following this series right from the first post.
Even though you didn't explicitly stated that bitcoin is Halal, I think since at least it is not Haram,
can we regard it then as permissible. Like Al-Mubah?

Thanks a lot.

Waleikum Assalaam wa Rahmatulahi wa Barikahtu,

JazakAllah kheir for the support. I would say that at this time it does seem that Bitcoin falls into the category of mubah, which is commonly referred to as neutral. However, even with that being said, when using Bitcoin you do have to pay attention to the laws of the land where you live. If it is illegal in one's country, then the scholars will tell them it is not permissible to use but if it is legal where they live then they would say to proceed with caution.

Salaam

Thanks for the reply.. I'm eagerly waiting for the remaining series.
14  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is it illegal for someone to hack my BTC wallet? on: December 11, 2017, 11:55:08 AM
In the countries where it's recognized as money, it would be.

I hadn't heard about that happening. Does anyone have a list of which countries BitCoin has been officially declared a currency?

Germany has declared it a private currency:

And seriously, read the title of the webpage. It's Bitcoin, not BitCoin.
15  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: why bitcoin illegal in asia? on: December 11, 2017, 08:46:07 AM
This has happened so many times exactly the same MO. PBOC says " we ban bitcoin" weak hands sell, they buy up cheap coins. Then they say " jk we no ban Bitcoin!" And then the price goes back up.

A hard crash like this doesn't seems like something that the market would recover from in a week or two. People should be prepared and wait for a better entry point.
Caixin is a legitimate news site. People should seriously consider the possibility that this might not be fake news. The market might go down much further. Remember not to bite more than you can chew.
Bitcoin can't be killed. But in the short term there are huge waves that could swallow you whole. Take care guys.

that's fine and all but BREAKING NEWS: the island of Fiji has banned bitcoin!!! SELL YOU FOOLS!
16  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: why bitcoin illegal in asia? on: December 11, 2017, 08:37:42 AM
This has happened so many times exactly the same MO. PBOC says " we ban bitcoin" weak hands sell, they buy up cheap coins. Then they say " jk we no ban Bitcoin!" And then the price goes back up.

the PBOC folks are the biggest insider traders in the bitcoin space.
17  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Regulation in Kazakhastan on: December 11, 2017, 08:29:27 AM
Hello! I don't know about AUD-KZT; as the others said, banks should be able to do it, but I would also suggest bringing USD to be safe.
The smaller money exchange places usually have a better rate than banks - but if you feel safer/more used to it, go to any bank. At any independent exchange place, you can expect to have a calculator next to the window. Don't be afraid to count your money right there (all of those places have a sign that says please count your money AT the counter) - so you can make sure the amount is correct and they know you counted it right in front of them.
If you decide to go to one of those, this is our usual spot Smiley it's in the same entrance as the notary.

Wonderful thank you very much!
18  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bubble on: December 06, 2017, 05:29:10 PM
The big question is whether it will become mainstream. Like any currency, it's "worth" something only when sufficient numbers of people think it is. It will be interesting to see establishment reaction if it becomes a genuine alternative to sterling.
19  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bubble on: December 06, 2017, 05:22:14 PM
I agree that some stocks have value related to the valuation of the companies, but some are hugely inflated, and are based on future gains (eg Tesla). Similar to Bitcoin - people are speculating on the future value of the asset.

Also there are other markets which have very low, if not non-existent "backing" that sustains their value, such as fiat currencies and gold. Yes, gold has some industrial uses but its high value is based mostly on belief. And yes, you can pay taxes in fiat but its value too, is based on collective belief.

Bitcoin is the same - it has no intrinsic value per se (really the only things that have true intrinsic value IMO are things like food and water), but people's collective belief gives it value, because so many people understand the implications of such a technology.

If the bubble pops (if it is a bubble), then there will be plenty of people buying back in at lower prices and sustaining the value - it's not going away without something drastic happening, such as a flaw in the protocol - and this becomes less and less likely as time goes on.

Stock markets also rely on sentiment and they are priced in fiat currency. What happens when "sentiment" changes about the value of that?
20  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin bubble on: December 06, 2017, 05:14:51 PM
Even if you had “bought in” all those moons ago, there was no guarantee your investment would have made money. Something to think on.

Only if you sold too early.

Perhaps I should have finished the 'if only':

... if only I'd bought £100 pounds worth back then, and decided to sell today."
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