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401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 28, 2015, 07:23:57 PM


Where are all the Baritus fanboys now?

I remember catching a serious load of crap for calling him out for the scammer he is.

Any one still think he didn't steal the $30K worth of DGC?


~BCX~

Please remind me as I can't remember, who did he steal the coins from ?


He ripped off the all the investors he solicited from to build his next time proven follow on scam, CryptoAve.

I find it amazingly coincidental that an unknown "mystery employee" swipes $30K of DGC from Baritus personal stash in the damn near the same amount he raised from investors. Basically he used their money to fund CAVE and sold his personal coins at the same time.

Any more questions?


~BCX~

I also dropped DGC after that fiasco, it was blatantly obvious what was going on. zakryze was kind enough to show a lot of us on irc some convincing blockchain proof. Coming on the heels of the Inputs "hack" it just didn't feel right.

Would urge you to reconsider your position on DGC. Good team, good guys, making a lot of progress Smiley
402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 28, 2015, 02:18:32 PM
We also have quite a good number of merchants. Smiley
You can check them here: http://wiki.digitalcoin.co/index.php/Where_to_spend_digitalcoin

We should probably sort these into categories to make it easier to read Smiley
403  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 11:19:12 PM
There are 3 ages for altcoins ( According to me)

1) 2011 - March 2013                - Birth of Altcoins
2) March 2013 - November 2013 - Altcoin Settlement
3) November 2013 - Today        - Advanced altcoins

Since DGC was in age 2 , it didnt need antyhing except good dev and community. It had along a time both. Once dev screwed everthing with his projects ,  people lost their interest on it - including me. If everything was OK, maybe DGC was still one of the mainstream altcoins with its brand name and community. But it wasnt the case. Anyway , past is past. Below tells what was my plan for DGC

So, what are the criteria of being a successful cryptocoin. At this point I agree with coblee. 3 things - as all we know: Liquidity , merchants and users.

1) Liquidity: The most important part is liquidity. I know lots of altcoin has also very low volume. You should keep volume at certain level like 20 BTC. You dont need to pump just keep some BTC for DGC and buy and sell at certain levels. For ex:

Amount: 500 DGC ; Buy @2000 ; Sell @ 2050
Amount: 500 DGC ; Buy @2051 ; Sell @ 2100
Amount: 500 DGC ; Buy @2101 ; Sell @ 2150
.....

I used this schema for decreasing the average cost of my some old altcoins but it also helps to volume of that coin. Yes , there are some risks that some one can dump lots of coins. But someone should keep the volume as high as possible.

Also, there are some efforts for decentralised exchanges. For example, Mercury is one of them . Its on alpha stage and mappum -dev- doesnt want to add low volume coins but since  it can be forked , you can add DGC once its ready to use. And becoming first coins of that kind of exchanges also boost the volume -I think.


2) Merchants: I think I have different ideas for that issue. Lets accept , DGC is stuck in cryptocommunity. Its very hard to get new users and merchants from this forum. So , you should look from out of box.

You should concentrate on the brand. DIGITAL. So , you find digital community to use DGC for digital goods. I dont mean btt. Other options.

For ex:
1) Agree with some game operators. Try to accept them to use DGC in their games. Ogame, travian etc.
2) Find/Create a VPN service which only accepts DGC (or other than bitcoin) .
3) Agree with some billing payment service to use DGC. So people can use DGC for bill payments. (Or other prepaid services)
...
The list can be extended , its all upto your imagination. But you have to find a GAME CHANGER service/activity which does not exists here -btt and current crypto community.

And also , you need a very good liquidity (volume)  after one of the above service is realized.

3) Users : I believe this part will increase when 1 & 2 happens. Of course , you will need marketing.

But , I dont think you need intensive core development. However, service based development or service adoption is the key for success of DGC - if there is a chance.

I intentionally dont use , If I became ... because I wouldnt and even if I became , I quit. Its very hard to back good old days but not impossible. If you have dedication and some extra abilities to arrange some contract with people who are infamiliar to crypto but in digital world , then you have the chance. And I really hope , you can do this.



I appreciate your input and agree with you on 2 & 3.

In regard to #1 ---......

http://screencast.com/t/GBJWxUPw
404  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 11:10:38 PM
Any more questions?
~BCX~

yeah, have you ever managed to sustain a meaningful relationship with another human being? your overall attitude conveys otherwise.

i'd refute you're obvious trolling but it'd just devolve into mindless FUD, which is probably your only real goal here. the final point here is that the DGC network itself was never rigged, block rewards have always been fair and by public consensus. say what you want about Baritus but DGC is clean.


FYI I was sent a PM by kenel and asked to participate in this thread.

Yes just for you I can conjecture a full on crusade against DGC you like.


~BCX~



I'm sure he meant stay on topic and don't digress.  And that goes for everybody who posts in here.  There are plenty of baritus threads that you guys can post in. 


-tb-

I want it out in the open. Post it here.

For every "baritus did XYZ" and "I don't trust baritus because XYZ".....I challenge you to a debate on our IRC channel or on this forum. I want it out in the open.
405  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 11:02:28 PM
Any more questions?
~BCX~

yeah, have you ever managed to sustain a meaningful relationship with another human being? your overall attitude conveys otherwise.

i'd refute you're obvious trolling but it'd just devolve into mindless FUD, which is probably your only real goal here. the final point here is that the DGC network itself was never rigged, block rewards have always been fair and by public consensus. say what you want about Baritus but DGC is clean.


FYI I was sent a PM by kenel and asked to participate in this thread.

Yes just for you I can conjecture a full on crusade against DGC you like.


~BCX~



I asked BCX to participate in this thread. I want everything, absolutely everything out in the open.
406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 10:59:29 PM
agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley

you're question has always been what would be 'your' next move, and in reference to me that's exactly what I would do, tis not at all advice on what you should do.

and to quit sounds like sound advice, as you stated you can't change the past, so dgc will always be haunted by its past.

Fair enough. I appreciate your input!

and by a past that got on peoples bad side I wasn't talking just Baritus, a few core members of dgc earlier on took to ddos.......hint didn't make some of us so happy did my defence by building a dgc holding war chest Wink

kelsey, would you be willing to join our IRC channel and hash this out with me personally?
407  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 10:55:45 PM
Sorry, but "we don't want to go DRK way" is absolute bullshit Cheesy

You, me and everyone else involved with DGC in any way, and specially by holding it, would kill for going DRK way. Going DRK way is all that matters in this industry and it's the single way for coin to prospect and be in people's minds with 1000+ other coins around. Volume, pumps, volume, more pumps, volume, price rise is the only way for coins to get any following, do you think so many mainstream companies would adapt Bitcoin if it was still 5$ a piece? It would my ass, nobody but oldtimers from that pweiod would know about it and there would be no marketing purposes of adapting it.

"We're doing it our own way silently in the background" is just a nothing marketing line translating to we're where we are and don't have idea what to do to go up from here. I understand that, I don't have idea too. DGC had it's chance being in first group of alt revolution but unfortunately Baritus screwed it a lot when it mattered most and some significant stuff is required to bring it back to the spotlight. It's shame, really shame, it's name only should make it to top 10 alts out there.

Forget baritus. This isn't about baritus.

Talk to me. What do we do to make it right?
408  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 10:54:29 PM
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "eat us alive over time" ?

no credible institution is going to take a coin such as DRK seriously, since it's already been pumped and hyped, having the credibility squeezed out of it again and agian. By keeping DGC purely a grassroots crypto it is left open to interpretation. We can effectively go wherever we want.

lack of aggressive development in this environment is suicide

That's what people always say, yet here we are, two years later with over 70 active nodes across the globe. If by aggressive development you mean tacking on gimmick after gimmick in hopes of attracting dumb money.. that's stupid. The less you screw with a sound system the less you're likely to break it.

Not saying we should ignore DGC entirely, but real innovation occurs on its own, since this is an open source environment I think we're fine as we are. Whenever a real advancement in crypto is found (not gimmicks like InstantX or whateverthehell) then we can integrate that into DGC. All we need to worry about is keeping our network healthy and clean of fraud.

Now, aggressive PR, that's something else entirely. DGC needs wayyyy more PR than it currently has. Ya'll can yell at me for being lazy about that, cuz I am.

That not even an achievement. What i have seen in all my time is that coins with no active development and advancement die. coins without purpose die. Coins without direction die.

DGC is dying because it has 70 nodes. When i mined it along with worldcoin and the rest from that period, they had THOUSANDS of nodes. Interest is fading and once interest in an existing coin fades beyond a point....it dies.

Do you know tenebrix, fairbrix? Tonal bitcoin? those were the starter alts..lack of everything left them dead and buried.

cosmoo....starting from page 10 of the altcoin section.....i give you reality. And unless something happens sonn, DGc will average page 32 of the alt section

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has one. What basis do you have (or proof) to make your claim?
409  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 03:42:25 AM
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "eat us alive over time" ?

no credible institution is going to take a coin such as DRK seriously, since it's already been pumped and hyped, having the credibility squeezed out of it again and agian. By keeping DGC purely a grassroots crypto it is left open to interpretation. We can effectively go wherever we want.


Thanks for clearing that up. "Eat us alive" didn't make sense to me Smiley
410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [DGC] Digitalcoin 3.0 | Multi-algorithm, Improved Blockchain Storage | RELEASED! on: March 27, 2015, 02:34:14 AM
ANN Updated with list of services.
411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 27, 2015, 12:12:34 AM
There are about 1000 "devs" , 150 "developers" and 20 "innovative developers". DGC is based on pretty recent code. I'd encourage you to contact some of the guys in the "20" group and join forces.

We do contact those devs, when we switched to multi-algo hashing Ahmed received insight from 8bitcoder, who was the original developer of multiple algorithm hashing through his creation Myraidcoin. Most devs want to run their own coin, DGC just tries to be fair and friendly so that they'll be inclined to help us should we want to implement their technology. There's no need to have a team of devs (though it would be nice to have more names associated with DGC), you can't really 'force' innovation. This is all open-source, so we just try to remain updated with the best practices developed in crypto.

I'd never want DarkCoin level 'development' happening on DGC, that kind of hype and attention-grabbing will just eat us alive over time. I enjoy DGC as it is, cool and quiet, reliably minding its own business in the background. You attract better people that way.

I understand what you're saying though. It would build credibility and trust (of which DGC is deserving) the more trusted dev's names are 'branded' on the coin. But that being said, a 'team' is kind of misleading, all devs who work open source are already a team Smiley

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "eat us alive over time" ?
412  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 26, 2015, 12:44:50 PM
Not sure what you should do but it's shame to see DGC not doing as good as it should. For me, it still has, and always will have, the best name of all cryptos out there, including Bitcoin. I thought changing algorithm would help but it looks it wasn't caught by people too.

It's hard to compete in the crazy world off all these coins and in the middle of this brutal bear market, guess Baritus actions did some harm too. Anyway, I still have 200k of DGC from many moons ago that nobody will get cheap from me, and hope it will get it's place under the sun of successful coins at some time.

Anyway, I think you should emphasize the coin's top name bit more, it's the biggest selling point for DGC. Than, it needs to come back to people's minds again and for that you'd need some good news and lot of BTC to pump and support it's price. Pump is not some perfect fundamental stuff but it does bring coin to the spotlight, there is nothing really DOGE is better than DGC in except having a volume on exchange and price level supported by lot of bids. DGC unfortunately lost that momo long time ago and doesn't have any big guys supporting it.

Appreciate the input.

DGC, price wise, may not being doing as good as it should, but the community and our developers are doing better than ever.
413  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 07:37:40 PM

Why all the hating on Kenel?

I haven't been following DGC very closely but from what I've seen he's done his best.

Whatever hate people have for baritus shouldn't reflect on the current president of DGCfoundation.

Cheers!

I asked for it!

Want it all out in the open. Smiley
414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 04:39:35 PM
agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley

you're question has always been what would be 'your' next move, and in reference to me that's exactly what I would do, tis not at all advice on what you should do.

and to quit sounds like sound advice, as you stated you can't change the past, so dgc will always be haunted by its past.

Fair enough. I appreciate your input!
415  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 02:24:48 PM

Where are all the Baritus fanboys now?

I remember catching a serious load of crap for calling him out for the scammer he is.

~BCX~

i remember catching a load of crap calling you out as a paid troll who dispenses FUD on coins whales want to take over Roll Eyes

if baritus was a scammer then it only affects his side projects, NOT digitalcoin itself. DGC has had a clean distribution since its inception and continues to do so.

please go away, it's hopeless to argue with trolls like yourself.

Appreciate the enthusiasm, but not the purpose of this thread. All comments are welcome so long as they aren't negative toward members of our community outside of myself (meaning I'm fair game, do your worst).
416  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 02:21:05 PM
agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Also, not sure if you're aware.....Baritus is no longer the developer of Digitalcoin. I actually haven't seen or talked to baritus in months.

Ahmed and Xawksow and several others make up our development team. Great group of guys.
417  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 02:18:30 PM


Have not been keeping up with what is going on with Digitalcoin these days.

I used to watch DGC more though.

I remember DGC had its own forum at one time,

but last time I looked I couldn't find the forum?


Thanks for the response!

Why'd you stop keeping up?

We have a forum, making some changes to it at moment.
418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 02:15:40 PM
agreed and hence why the various 'quit' replies sound like pretty sound advice to me   Grin

Suppose I should pack it all up and move along because some devs of other coins told me to; Sounds like solid advice to me Smiley
419  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 02:13:04 PM

I actually had to look up what this meant. Made me laugh for a minute thinking it was something else.
420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: "If you were the President of the DGC Foundation, what would be your next step?" on: March 25, 2015, 12:37:39 PM

Informative and well thought out answer. Thanks!
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