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1  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] HBO GO Accounts - $12 (0.019 BTC) - 1 Year Warranty!! on: November 15, 2014, 01:17:26 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question - but isn't HBO GO tied to an HBO account? Wouldn't my cable provider notice I'm watching HBO Go on their network, but don't subscribe to the service?

Just worried about the "cable police"… LOL

You bump your post but don't answer my question? Nice LOL
2  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] HBO GO Accounts - $12 (0.019 BTC) - 1 Year Warranty!! on: November 14, 2014, 07:47:18 AM
Maybe this is a dumb question - but isn't HBO GO tied to an HBO account? Wouldn't my cable provider notice I'm watching HBO Go on their network, but don't subscribe to the service?

Just worried about the "cable police"… LOL
3  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 10, 2014, 02:16:08 AM
Refund confirmed. Thanks Steamboat.

Would have been awesome getting the miners but that was not to be. I'm sorry it ended this way, but I'm glad it's over.

Good luck everyone Smiley
4  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 10, 2014, 01:20:31 AM
I see my refund on the block chain with 2 "confirmations".

"But it's saying Warning! this transaction is a double spend of 112XXXXXX." WTF?

EDIT: just saw the post from PeZ. Is there a known issue with blockchain and double transactions today?
5  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 07, 2014, 06:58:02 PM
I know it's not directly applicable to our situation, but here is an interesting article talking about butterfly labs getting sued (AGAIN) for not delivering product.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/new-lawsuit-against-bitcoin-miner-manufacturer-alleges-fraud-negligence/

An interesting twist is that the person bringing suit does not live in the US, but he's suing a US company none the less.

If Steamboat thinks the mere act of collecting our info has bought him another month, he's sadly mistaken.
6  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 05, 2014, 04:10:29 AM
I think testing was free for hosting. And dont include 35$(pcb and parts) in 25% refund calculation only 60$ are for 25%.
Okay.  So I'm still not understanding the situation here.  If I take the assembly refund, does that mean SB takes my hosted miner and I have nothing more to do with it?  If that is the case, and SB has been hashing away with my units since it was assembled, how much BTC have they made and what happens to that money?
Have you got refund for the chips?
No, because my miner was supposed to be hosted.

Have you gotten the hosted miner payouts that Steamboat mentioned in is previous update? I've been really surprised that few hosted miner people have been complaining of not getting paid. I thought he set a clear payment schedule for the hosted miners.
7  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post on: February 04, 2014, 10:15:52 PM
This is worthy of positive feedback in my book

I 100% agree, and am sure you slept a sound night after he finallly sent back those coins.
I understand why you would put a positive entry in YOUR book.
What I disagree with is the fact that this feedback made it OUT of your book.

The next user subscribing here will see that you endorsed John K. (again) publicly, and thus will be tempted to trust him, when his trustworthyness is highly questionable, now.

Just don't allow public +Trust. All big-time scammers had an extensive list of +Trust.
-Trust is the way to go.

EDIT: btw, theymos, you still have a +Trust rating posted for TradeFortress "in your book"...  Cry

i think you are using the trust system wrong. It has nothing to do with trust.

Perhaps you could explain how to use the trust system then. How does the trust system have nothing to do with trust?

Clearly I need a lesson in the proper way to interpret a user's "trust" rating because right now it seems more harmful than useful.
8  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can you recommend some official escrow services? on: February 04, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Everyone BE VERY CAREFUL OF USING AN EXCROW PERSON ON THIS FORUM.

There is an EXTREMELY well know escrow provider who just disappeared recently. If you DO enlist a bitcointalk user to hold your escrow, be SURE there is a mechanism to get paid if that person disappears.

I've seen people learn this the hard way. Single person escrow means VERY LITTLE.

BTW, in general just be very careful on this site. People WILL steal from you. Even those with a LOT of history and trust.

I'll say it again - don't trust ANY single individual on this site. Anyone can become a scammer at any time - it happens far more than you think.


i can confirm, i am escrow

LOL!!! Yeah, "i am escrow" too!

In french escrow (wrote escroc) means crook http://dictionary.reverso.net/french-english/escroc

What is the username of the well know escrow provide who disappeared?

John K - he was already mentioned up thread a ways.
9  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 04, 2014, 06:45:16 PM
by the end of this week (1/7/2014)
I assume you actually meant Feb. 7? Or is this from last month?

Ack! Thanks for noticing my typo. Fixed and re-signed.
10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Can you recommend some official escrow services? on: February 03, 2014, 09:29:33 PM
Everyone BE VERY CAREFUL OF USING AN EXCROW PERSON ON THIS FORUM.

There is an EXTREMELY well know escrow provider who just disappeared recently. If you DO enlist a bitcointalk user to hold your escrow, be SURE there is a mechanism to get paid if that person disappears.

I've seen people learn this the hard way. Single person escrow means VERY LITTLE.

BTW, in general just be very careful on this site. People WILL steal from you. Even those with a LOT of history and trust.

I'll say it again - don't trust ANY single individual on this site. Anyone can become a scammer at any time - it happens far more than you think.


i can confirm, i am escrow

LOL!!! Yeah, "i am escrow" too!
11  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Netflix 12 Month (Instant Gift Codes!) --- $20 each! on: February 03, 2014, 09:22:36 PM
Be very wary of purchasing these gift codes. They are typically purchased with stolen credit cards or stolen accounts. Netflix cancels the subscription when the payment for the gift code is reversed.

Not only that, but there are cheaper places to lose your money for this item. lol
12  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin’s Emerging Price Stability on: February 03, 2014, 09:21:20 PM
Bitcoin’s Emerging Price Stability

Earlier in January Bitcoin, as it receded as recipient of an infinite press, began to see its trading range tighten after months of wild swings. I pointed this out as perhaps the start of new stability for Bitcoin, which in turn could help its platform mature, or indicate maturation thereof.

There was some squawking that the time frame I had selected as ‘enough’ to indicate a trend was too short. It was a reasonable complaint. Happily, Bitcoin has behaved and exonerated me by tacking on another tranche of time of generally stable prices.

http://techcrunch.com/2014/02/01/bitcoins-emerging-price-stability/

I've only been watching BTC for about a year and 1/2. During that time we have had longer periods of stability than we are currently experiencing. I highly doubt that BTC has "stabilized" at ~800.00 although that would be great.

More volatility is almost certainly on the horizon.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Transaction unconfirmed ? on: February 03, 2014, 09:15:49 PM
Hi I just sent it straight from my blockchain app on my phone like I normally do, Im not sure how to see if I did or not, ive tried looking but can not see where it says if I paid a fee or not. Sorry If this sounds really thick but I have not encountered this before.

Thanks.

If you look at the transaction record on blockchain.info you'll likely be able to see if a fee was included. Although occasionally I've had is show no fee was paid when in fact a fee WAS paid.

At any rate, the transaction will eventually clear, or will be returned to you. You MAY have to wait as long as 24 hours. BTW, the rules for when a BTC transfer fee is required are a bit complex. It can even depend on things such as how long you've held the funds before the transfer. See here for more info: http://bitcoinfees.com

FWIW, I nornally do a "custom" transaction when transfering BTC. This allows me to control the fee I pay, as well as explicitly control the change address for better anonymity.

if you send it you payed the fee. can't send transaction without a fee. i think it's about 10 k satoshi. you have transaction id if you are not sure what happened.
This is incorrect. Some BTC clients WILL in fact send a transaction without a fee.
14  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post on: February 03, 2014, 08:59:55 PM
Hey john k many people is looking for you, release the btcs from the raffle.
I think he is going back on drone and by mistake drone throw him in Afghanistan instead of his homeland  Wink

WTF? There was a time when I thought certain people could be trusted on this forum based on their past history and good feedback.

Let this be a lesson to me - NEVER trust ANYONE online. Bummer.
15  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 03, 2014, 05:41:25 PM
Hello,
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me
Is there anyone at home?

There is no pain, you are receding
A distant ship smoke on the horizon
You are only coming through in waves
Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying

^ I feel like these last two lines also are surprisingly applicable.

LOL! Seriously
16  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: February 03, 2014, 12:35:42 AM
Hello,
Is there anybody in there?
Just nod if you can hear me
Is there anyone at home?
17  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Klondike - 16 chip ASIC Open Source Board - Preliminary on: January 29, 2014, 12:06:59 AM
Hello
I have just finish to redesign K1 schematic for made it more clear to read.
But I need some help, so someone know how to contact
  Chris Savery
  Kano
  Steamboat


Thanks

Kano is active here on the forum.

Chris and Steve (Steamboat), not so much. Although Steamboat has promised to begin our assembly refunds this week, so I'm holding my breath for him to show up  Roll Eyes
18  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 27, 2014, 05:01:40 PM
OOO an update from SB.  Once again though, what about those of us that have hosted miners?  Forget about us did ya?  Still hashing away are they?  When and how exactly do I get MY BTC from MY miners?  FFS man sort this shit out, you're doing nothing to disprove your increasingly likely scammer tag.

So Steamboat hasn't made any of the hosted miner payments yet either? WTF? There is just no excuse for that. I'd sort of assumed he was at LEAST paying back the income the hosted miners are making.

Wow. Just wow.
19  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 25, 2014, 07:10:14 PM

Furher, i can call him only a scared sissy for not doing anything for us.
As eu buyer I can not do anything, not even legal action and I at least wont let this thread go dead.


I wonder if ICPEN would be an option for those buyers outside the U.S.

Here is a link for information on cross-border disputes:
http://icpen.org/for-consumers/do-you-have-a-crossborder-dispute

Or you can report your complaint here:
http://www.econsumer.gov/english/report/overview.shtm

Of course, these steps would be for filing criminal charges only and would not likely yield you a refund. But depending on where you live law enforcement may take action of some kind.

For me personally, Steamboat has bought himself exactly one week. Any longer and I'll begin the process of filing my criminal complaints. I'm done screwing around here.


All I'm saying is that if you look at the entire history of this SB has ultimately come through with his promises -- it just takes longer than what everyone wants. I don't think the slowness is because of fraudulent intent. Given how messed up the entire situation is because of Avalon's colossal failure to deliver chips in a timely fashion and how this has resulted in a total failure of SB's business, I'm willing to give the guy some slack.

Note this has been true with both chip refunds and delivery of working miners -- he has come through on those, albeit slower than most would like. I think it will also be true with the refunds. In the next week or so we'll know the outcome.

My understanding of the U.S. legal system is that Avalon's failure to ship in no way relieves SB of his responsibility to us for our assembly and shipping charges. Yes, it's Avalon's fault, no question there. However, we have a contract with Steamboat, NOT BitSynCom (Avalon). We have no contract with, and therefore no case against BitSynCom, but we DO have a contract with Steamboat.

If Steamboat wants to recover his losses, he needs to go after BitSynCom in a lawsuit. WE can't do that for him.

Yeah, it's not ideal. But that's how the system works...

EDIT: combined responses
20  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Liquid Synergy Designs Inc. -ASIC mining hardware on: January 24, 2014, 05:25:01 AM
I'm scanning for the formula in this 200+ page thread for exactly how to count this claim...  What formula are you using to compute the amounts?  Including hardware kits unseen, shipping cost unused, assembly fees unspent, and maybe margin between paid chip value and that refunded?  My figures are for fully assembled.  

My notes from looong ago show:
$35 parts per board
$98.5 full assembly labor
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$133.5 full assembly per board, at the quoted refund rate of btc@$126.61 = 1.05441908 BTC full assembly per board?
Plus shipping, in my case $45.95 overnight for 80 chips, or .36292551 BTC?


Does this math jive with others?

I think we should try to all have the same math applied to our claims.  Thanks
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Y'all need to make it official on this forum with trust ratings (SB's last login 1/23): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15737
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Link to SB's promised refunds:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3803998#msg3803998
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Found the best summary of the promised refund from SB:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3808613#msg3808613

Good question. Your math looks right to me as far as the refunds Steamboat offered.

If he was ready to refund that amount tomorrow, I'd take it and be done. But if this becomes a criminal matter, what he "promised to pay but didn't" is irrelevant. At that point IMO he would owe the full amount at the CURRENT exchange rate. I think that is the measure of our damages were this to become a criminal proceeding.

I actually got off pretty easy in this whole deal. I only order two miners, plus full assembly and priority shipping. I paid ~3.19 BTC which is currently valued at ~ $2550.00 USD.

So yeah, it's a very good question how much we are owed. I'm getting the strong feeling we'll never see it, however much it is.  Undecided
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