So you need two threads to scam? And you want me to post the same reponse in each one, ok. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=234346.msg2475654#msg2475654Of course it is risky, much like the services which you run yourself. Seeing as how you're posting scam accusations in all competing threads, I would say that your services might be a true risk for the buyer and that not being due to e.g. shipment loss or theft by postal workers as your current bahaviour is a scam in itself.
Comparing my service to your unregistered and criminal attracting money laundering "cash in the mail" offering is not fair. We are registered and do not break the law. I only post when people come to scam, as you obviously have. Your ad hominum attacks against me are transparent to the users who see you trying to scam them. |
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Of course it is risky, much like the services which you run yourself. Seeing as how you're posting scam accusations in all competing threads, I would say that your services might be a true risk for the buyer and that not being due to e.g. shipment loss or theft by postal workers as your current bahaviour is a scam in itself.
Comparing my service to your unregistered and criminal attracting money laundering "cash in the mail" offering is not fair. We are registered and do not break the law. I only post when people come to scam, as you obviously have. Your ad hominum attacks against me are transparent to the users who see you trying to scam them. |
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Nice attempt to evade the argument. Why did you not answer the charge that you are running a risky service for the buyer? There is no secret that I built (but do not own) a btc to gift card service. And it is registered and law abiding. Don't you wish you could say the same?
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This is a HIGHLY RISKY proposition for the sender of the cash who cannot insure it's arrival by any known means. Video taped packages do not have any legal standing.
If you send the OP money and he says he didn't receive it you are F'D. buyer runs similar services and is posting scam accusations in all competing service offer threads. Nice attempt to evade the argument. Why did you not answer the charge that you are running a risky service for the buyer? There is no secret that I built (but do not own) a btc to gift card service. And it is registered and law abiding. Don't you wish you could say the same? |
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agreed. This should really be posted in the goods or perhaps digital goods section. The op is not offering a "currency exchange".
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By placing an order, you agree that I am not liable if my shipment does not reach you.
I will sell you a brand new porche for $1000. I'll send it to you after you pay me the $1000; no really I promise I will. I'll even send you a video of me sticking it in a mailbox. Not my fault if it disappears before you get it though, you still won't get your $1000 back. /end sacrcasm. |
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Oh, so you are in a terrorist state? In fact, yes. Sorry dude, I'm an American. Fuck you and your terrorist friends. ANYONE DEALING WITH THE OP IS SUPPORTING TERRORISM! This is a HIGHLY RISKY proposition for the sender of the cash who cannot insure it's arrival by any known means. Video taped packages do not have any legal standing. If you send the OP money and he says he didn't receive it you are F'D. |
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That puts them under FinCEN, but classified as a Money Exchanger ?
It depends on the state you live in, I think. In California somebody who sells brand name retail store giftcards must be registered as a money transmitter. So they'd be a money transmitter and would declare that when they file the MSB. (I am not a lawyer, do not take my advice as legal advice). |
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I advertise everywhere :-)
Well, don't.  unless you want to pay me to stop, feeding my kids outweighs your opinion. |
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I advertise everywhere :-)
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actually people are unlikely to see my signature. people have an amazing tendency to ignore banner ads, like those in our signatures.
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sorry you don't like ads. perhaps you have some other way to tell the world I've build a clone of the now defunct btcpak.com and you can see it in my signature?
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Well stop posting non-information in it and it won't be!
I tried to start a thread in the noob section about useless posts but it fell on deaf ears.
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so you've been here for mnore than a thousand posts and you've just discovered that the newbie section is spammer heaven?
Hooray for you!
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Now seeking 100 BTC for $8000 USD
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or just cash out and sell me all your coins. I pay with gift cards per my signature.
Why the hell are you advertising here? You prefer I hire you to advertise for me instead? Sell me all your bitcoins... https://www.sellbitcoinforcash.com |
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Gift cards are not an exchange of currency.
Gift Cards = Stored Value Cards and therefore are regulated by FinCEN "(3) Issuer of traveler's checks, money orders, or stored value. An issuer of traveler's checks, money orders, or, stored value (other than a person who does not issue such checks or money orders or stored value in an amount greater than $1,000 in currency or monetary or other instruments to any person on any day in one or more transactions). " |
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I think it does require registration. retailers who sell moneypak cards are required to be registered with fincen and these retailers have standards they follow for kyc and aml.
You are incorrect. Retailers selling these types of cards are exempt from registering per 31 CFR 1010.100 (ff)(7) unless they sell more than $10000 to any person on any one day. You are off by a factor of ten, sir. "(3) Issuer of traveler's checks, money orders, or stored value. An issuer of traveler's checks, money orders, or, stored value (other than a person who does not issue such checks or money orders or stored value in an amount greater than $1,000 in currency or monetary or other instruments to any person on any day in one or more transactions). " As I said they all have policies in place to prevent a single customer from acquiring so much "stored value" in one visit... so they can comply with AML and KYC requirements. So then following this regulation if a btc -> moneypak sells more than $1000 per day to ANY customer(s) that site MUST be registered with FinCEN and probably within each state as a money transmitter. And for these reasons the operator of this btc->moneypak site is registered with FinCEN: https://www.sellbitcoinforcash.com |
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