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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release v2.0 on: February 24, 2019, 02:42:41 AM
As I am betting everyday this project will surely be one of my favorites and I hope it will be as good as I'm expecting from it. I see you have already launched a Windows version for your wallet, do you plan on creating an android wallet also? There are a lot of people who don't use a computer very often and they are betting only on their smartphone and I think an android and IOS wallet would be very useful.
It is definitely in our future plans.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release v1.0.1.0 on: February 16, 2019, 09:42:47 PM
BetKings wallet v2.0 has been released. This release contains a bugfix for a recent staking issue and UI improvements with preparation for enabling live betting on the network.
https://github.com/betkings/kings-core/releases/tag/2.0
3  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Kings / Betkings - Plagiarized Whitepaper on: February 01, 2019, 06:45:31 PM
That being said please restore my rep back, i do not see the reason to have a bad rep, i respect the crypto community i haven't scammed anyone my project already has a working wallet and it will soon achieve it's goal to have a decentralize betting platform with zero fees.

Thank you for answering the questions on the post above. As you see on this thread, we are not calling you a scam, and you dont have a bad rep.
We will keep this post up in case someone has any questions.
And i will gladly respond, thank you for your work and keep it up,i encourage everyone to be a part of this community and don't be afraid to ask questions whenever someone see that there could be something wrong with projects, this way we will improove the crypto community.
4  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Kings / Betkings - Plagiarized Whitepaper on: February 01, 2019, 06:07:24 PM
That being said please restore my rep back, i do not see the reason to have a bad rep, i respect the crypto community i haven't scammed anyone my project already has a working wallet and it will soon achieve it's goal to have a decentralize betting platform with zero fees.
5  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Kings / Betkings - Plagiarized Whitepaper on: February 01, 2019, 04:57:37 PM
Its the same project, but we rebranded.
Extreme sportsbook turned into BetKings
xsports.io turned into kings.ag
if you check the username ... xsbtoken started both threads.
Now i dont mind about any of this but losing my trust because of a false allegation? ... now you respond to me how is this fair?
And just to be honest i think your work is great for the crypto community don't get me wrong, but i guess it was a rush to report us as untrusted because you've seen so much in this industry, the reason we kept the same whitepaper is because it is the same project Smiley)
Back with an edit : I've wrote the source with that first screenshot paragraph we copied from that website.
Just to be sure that nobody gets confused, those are quoted as facts ... we couldn`t have scrambled them...


I see that you changed  your whitepaper from yesterday and added a source at the bottom:
But we have the archived page from yesterday to compare here: Archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190201012219/https://kings.ag/kingswp.pdf







Now, there are more questions raised now and I hope you can explain to investors and to the crypto community.

Accordingly with your medium article about your previous project (xsports.io):  “There is a total cap of 18 million XSB for sale”  @ $0.25 (VIP sales) and @ $0.35 (public sale).
Source: https://medium.com/@xsbtoken/extreme-sportsbook-vip-presale-c2978e5f8b39
archived: http://web.archive.org/web/20190201133650/https://medium.com/@xsbtoken/extreme-sportsbook-vip-presale-c2978e5f8b39

We're in the final week of the VIP Presale at Extreme Sportsbook!  28% sold - $0.25 Presale price and 10% perpetual block reward bonus!  Come check out the new site and register at https://www.xsports.io
The 5% referral bonus is still available.
(archive: http://web.archive.org/web/20190201144426/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2372522.0)

On your ANN for xsports you said 28% sold +10% bonus.

18,000,000 x 28% = 5,040,000 =  tokens sold (bonus not included)
5,040,000 x .25 = $ 1,260,000 (xsports.io)


1 - Did xsports.io raised $ 1,260,000?[/b]
2 - XSB – doesnt exist on ethereum with the name extreme sportbook or xsports. Did you register under a diferent name?
3 - Where is the contract for XSB token?
4 - Where can we find evidence of sales?
5 – Where can we verify that the tokens were distributed?  
6 – Why rebrand? Did you post somewhere that you were re-branding?
7 – Where is the team behind both projects? links, profiles, etc
8 – Why there is no reference to re-branding on whitepaper and website of BetKings letting customers/investors know about such changes?
9 - Did you renew your website? It is expiring next month: Registry Expiry Date: 2019-02-13 (source: https://hypestat.com/info/kings.ag) Or are you going to rebrand again and change the name once it expires?
10 - Is your company (kings.ag) Registered? which country?
11 - Your ANN thread is self-moderated, and you are offering something for sale.
Do you know what that means to an investor and to the crypto-community? I will answer that to you - It means that you dont want to be questioned or criticized. FYI: It is a typical scammer style - offer something for sale but doesn't want questions and criticisms.  And one example, you deleted what we posted on your ANN yesterday.

1 - Did xsports.io raised $ 1,260,000?d
nope, we had various offers like black friday and cyber monday, we basically doubled people's tokens.( i edited here because i didnt understood the question from the first time) We didnt sold all of our tokens, to make an overall price would be between $0.12 and $0.15 and around 7 mil tokens were distributed including the dev fund.

2 - XSB – doesnt exist on ethereum with the name extreme sportbook or xsports. Did you register under a diferent name?
XSB was never an eth token, it was a real crypto currency running on its own blockchain

3 - Where is the contract for XSB token?
There was no smart contract as we didnt advertise that.

4 - Where can we find evidence of sales?
Because of the type of our project the evidences are anonymous, each individual who contributed to our presale and ico received a btc and an eth address (one per every investor)

5 – Where can we verify that the tokens were distributed?  
chainz.cryptoid.info/kng

6 – Why rebrand? Did you post somewhere that you were re-branding?
Yes, there is an archive on the topic that was initially started. The reason of rebranding was based on our mood.

7 – Where is the team behind both projects? links, profiles, etc
due to the type of the project we decided that it is better to be safe then sorry. So basically we will have a betting chain, sportsbook betting tied on the blockchain with no house rake.

8 – Why there is no reference to re-branding on whitepaper and website of BetKings letting customers/investors know about such changes?
its just a V2... we didn't have a big pool of ico investors ( we have sold basically ~700k$ when bitcoin was worth ~15.000$ and eth ~1000+$ so we lost a big portion of that due to the price drop, that being said our network is running smooth for one year and the work on the next version is almost done, we already have two closed group of testers that are testing the betting wallet(platform) with us. In a week we will open the testnet platform to the public as i probably repeated myself. Yes we have delayed the release because it was a hard work to be done, but we are close to the release so we will basically keep our promise that we will have sportsbook directly tied on the blockchain. we invite you to test with us if you wish, or keep an eye on the project to see if this is a scam or not )

9 - Did you renew your website? It is expiring next month: Registry Expiry Date: 2019-02-13 (source: https://hypestat.com/info/kings.ag) Or are you going to rebrand again and change the name once it expires?
no we are not going to rebrand again, we just renew the domain for another year, yet we are considering to rebrand again to KINGS(KNG) (this is not a final decision) because we also want to build a name/legacy

10 - Is your company (kings.ag) Registered? which country?
no, we believe in real decentralization, when we will be done with the platform it will be totally decentralized either based on masternode voting (which isnt the only option) (either will be fully automated through json data feed from sportsbook events/results providers)

11 - Your ANN thread is self-moderated, and you are offering something for sale.
my ann is self moderated because as you can see on the old topic, which i added into the end of the self moderated thread, there was a bunch of people that made masked publicity on that thread (not that it was very populated to do that), so in order to keep it clean its better that i am having the control over it.

Do you know what that means to an investor and to the crypto-community? I will answer that to you - It means that you dont want to be questioned or criticized. FYI: It is a typical scammer style - offer something for sale but doesn't want questions and criticisms.  And one example, you deleted what we posted on your ANN yesterday.
To keep it simple, if someone was scammed or feels scammed by our sale its free to post it here, please join our discord and telegram i will let you post this thread and there you can find all the investors that participated on our presale and ico.
and its true i do not like to be questioned, the reason that our project wasn't that promoted, is because we are letting the facts talking for us.
Like i said everyone is invited to test our platform , we will be having an announcement about that in a few days, we already have two closed test groups that can confirm that the platform is working and almost done(i repeated myself again)


i really respect your work, but im not the one ... but yes i do try to keep my devs anonymity ... crypto hasnt initially started as a "company", and most of the scamers have been backed out or owned a company. Sorry for misstypes am Romanian, english is not my first language.
For everyone else who sees this im @michaelkings on discord and telegram. I will be here for many many years.
Thanks for your work, hopefully my answers satisfies you, more than that you can join yourself and see the progress made on our project.

And about that screenshot, is it still plagiarize or how is it called if i posted the source ... its just a bunch of facts there is nothing that is "stolen" from anyone in particulary... if it still "counts" then i really am a plagiator and i am sorry in the name of that article that i didnt quoted it from the beggining ... i didnt saw anyone giving a dime about it. You got me good with that, good work and i mean it.
6  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Kings / Betkings - Plagiarized Whitepaper on: February 01, 2019, 05:37:17 AM
Its the same project, but we rebranded.
Extreme sportsbook turned into BetKings
xsports.io turned into kings.ag
if you check the username ... xsbtoken started both threads.
Now i dont mind about any of this but losing my trust because of a false allegation? ... now you respond to me how is this fair?
And just to be honest i think your work is great for the crypto community don't get me wrong, but i guess it was a rush to report us as untrusted because you've seen so much in this industry, the reason we kept the same whitepaper is because it is the same project Smiley)
Back with an edit : I've wrote the source with that first screenshot paragraph we copied from that website.
Just to be sure that nobody gets confused, those are quoted as facts ... we couldn`t have scrambled them...
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release v1.0.1.0 on: January 31, 2019, 08:52:23 PM
BETKINGS TESTNET CONTEST


BETKINGS BOUNTY CAMPAIGN
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (TOPIC MOVED) on: January 31, 2019, 08:25:37 PM
Topic was moved to :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104653.0
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / [ANN] BetKings [KNG] (https://kings.ag) Current release v2.0 on: January 31, 2019, 08:21:12 PM



Bet Kings is a decentralized betting platform built on blockchain technology that will revolutionize the way you bet.
Bet Kings offers a completely automated and autonomous alternative to traditional betting websites and programs with a strong focus on security and transparency. All events are shared through the blockchain, and all wagers and payouts originate directly from the blockchain. Never wonder if you're going to be paid out or if the middleman is working honestly - there is no middleman.
Bet Kings aims to solve the problems of the betting industry by eliminating the betting fees/rakes, our project takes 0% rake, the only 'fee' that has to be paid is the traditional network transaction fee.
This project is for everyone over 18 years old, we are trying to get a portion of that 7 billion bets that are taking place every year.


                                                                                                                          • Coin name: BetKings
                                                                                                                          • Ticker: KNG
                                                                                                                          • Algorithm: X11
                                                                                                                          • Block time: 1 minute
                                                                                                                          • Difficulty retargeting: Every block
                                                                                                                          • Consensus: Proof-of-Stake (PoS) with Masternodes
                                                                                                                          • Masternode cost: 10,000 KNG
                                                                                                                          • Initial distribution: 7,250,075 KNG


                                                                                                                          • 2 KNG to the block finder
                                                                                                                          • 2 KNG to the winning masternode
                                                                                                                          • 0.5 KNG to the dev fund
                                                                                                                          • 0.5 KNG distributed as VIP rewards


                                       
                                       






                                       



                                       

                                       

Old announcement : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2308871.0
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: October 28, 2018, 10:37:30 AM
Any big updates lately on the release of the betting client? The chain seems to be working nicely -- hoping we get betting soon. Good things take time tho!

Yes we are still in the testing phase, we found out many things that needed to be fixed and we are getting closer and closer to the releasing date.

Great to hear ... what are some of the problems that you are fixing? Im generally curious. Smiley
These days we will be migrating to a better network, then we will do some more testing of the platform with a few people from our telegram group, then if everything will work ok we will be releasing the platform
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: October 19, 2018, 07:06:33 AM
Any big updates lately on the release of the betting client? The chain seems to be working nicely -- hoping we get betting soon. Good things take time tho!

Yes we are still in the testing phase, we found out many things that needed to be fixed and we are getting closer and closer to the releasing date.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: October 13, 2018, 03:11:18 PM
Hey,
And what fees will be paid by the merchant to use your platform as a payment processor for your web commerce? Will there be purchase protection in relation to the buyer, that is, buy and receive, because if don't receive,the protection for the refund?
There is an auto-refunding feature in case of event suspension due to various motives ( this usually happens in tennis because of the weather mostly ), we tought about it all, we will be more explicit once we release the betting platform

If I understand correctly at this stage of development, users will be insured against such cases and the funds will return back? Do I understand everything correctly?
What are you going to look like in augur project or do you still have a little different ideas about how this will work?
Like augur or not like augur this refund feature is essentially.I do not see sportsbook wagering on the augur's site so, we are not building a decentralized oracle. We are building a decentralized sportsbook wagering system, like really decentralized.

It seems like they wanted to add such an option to their platform. I'm not sure that they will succeed, but you need to keep this in mind. They are still very, very popular, and f you want take their place you have to fight and not the fact that it will work.
you realize do that you are talking about someone that doesnt have sportsbook wagering ...
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: October 05, 2018, 10:49:37 PM
Hey,
And what fees will be paid by the merchant to use your platform as a payment processor for your web commerce? Will there be purchase protection in relation to the buyer, that is, buy and receive, because if don't receive,the protection for the refund?
There is an auto-refunding feature in case of event suspension due to various motives ( this usually happens in tennis because of the weather mostly ), we tought about it all, we will be more explicit once we release the betting platform

If I understand correctly at this stage of development, users will be insured against such cases and the funds will return back? Do I understand everything correctly?
What are you going to look like in augur project or do you still have a little different ideas about how this will work?
Like augur or not like augur this refund feature is essentially.I do not see sportsbook wagering on the augur's site so, we are not building a decentralized oracle. We are building a decentralized sportsbook wagering system, like really decentralized.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: October 05, 2018, 10:43:58 PM
how you choose Betking as the name? since i saw another old project with the same name too
maybe you already saw that too (https://betking.io/)
We saw that, we have chosen the name Bet Kings with the ticker KNG, the names resembles, that is right but we are a bit different with the site and everything ...atleast in our opinion.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: October 05, 2018, 01:19:09 AM
Hello, everyone.  Our site is finally up.  It is a work in progress as we dedicate most of our time to the platform, but serves as a reliable source of information and reference. https://www.kings.ag
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: September 29, 2018, 06:25:42 AM
Patiently waiting for a no fee betting experience
The waiting is almost over, we are still in the testing phase where we are making sure that odds maths are good, the amount paid to the winners is right every time and we are doing the finishing touches to the platform.


Great to hear that the platform is close. Really excited to start using it. Whats the strategy for acquiring other users/bettors so there is actual liquidity on both sides of the bets?
The strategy is to attract multiple people by working with different marketers and start advertising, your coins are being generated by the blockchain whenever you win, the odds are paramutual so whatever you win means that the other side(s) lost. So i guess this replies to the liquidity question.

Think they meant volume of bettors so there is actual people using the product.

Gotcha -- are you allowed to advertise this platform on mainstream places?
We will see...
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: September 22, 2018, 04:58:27 PM
Patiently waiting for a no fee betting experience
The waiting is almost over, we are still in the testing phase where we are making sure that odds maths are good, the amount paid to the winners is right every time and we are doing the finishing touches to the platform.


Great to hear that the platform is close. Really excited to start using it. Whats the strategy for acquiring other users/bettors so there is actual liquidity on both sides of the bets?
The strategy is to attract multiple people by working with different marketers and start advertising, your coins are being generated by the blockchain whenever you win, the odds are paramutual so whatever you win means that the other side(s) lost. So i guess this replies to the liquidity question.
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: September 21, 2018, 11:30:05 PM
Patiently waiting for a no fee betting experience
The waiting is almost over, we are still in the testing phase where we are making sure that odds maths are good, the amount paid to the winners is right every time and we are doing the finishing touches to the platform.
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: September 14, 2018, 03:27:06 AM
Hey,
And what fees will be paid by the merchant to use your platform as a payment processor for your web commerce? Will there be purchase protection in relation to the buyer, that is, buy and receive, because if don't receive,the protection for the refund?
There is an auto-refunding feature in case of event suspension due to various motives ( this usually happens in tennis because of the weather mostly ), we tought about it all, we will be more explicit once we release the betting platform
I'm sorry i haven't understood the question, we are only offering a qt platform with sportsbook wagering inside, if someone wants to add KNG as payment processor they need either to talk to us if they don't have the system builted to receive crypto currency payments, either download our wallet in order to configure their system with it ...
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Service Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BetKings KNG (https://kings.ag) Current release 1.0.1.0 on: September 13, 2018, 10:18:11 PM
Hey,
And what fees will be paid by the merchant to use your platform as a payment processor for your web commerce? Will there be purchase protection in relation to the buyer, that is, buy and receive, because if don't receive,the protection for the refund?
There is an auto-refunding feature in case of event suspension due to various motives ( this usually happens in tennis because of the weather mostly ), we tought about it all, we will be more explicit once we release the betting platform
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