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1701  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: ¿Estas vendiendo o comprando? on: July 03, 2013, 03:50:09 PM
Comprando Smiley
1702  Economy / Services / Re: Get up to 0.30 BTC a month for your signature! on: July 03, 2013, 02:22:05 PM
Done

Pay to: 1Ji88xdBUdRNbKKd5MHoD6R6CzYc7hnWwE

Thnks
1703  Local / Mineração em Geral / Pornografia Mineira - era Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 02, 2013, 11:17:54 PM
play para quando a farm?
1704  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin is Dead on: July 02, 2013, 10:39:37 PM
This is what is going to happen with Bitcoins for new users in a few months:

You see this type of new posts? They are typical of new comers:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=248517.0

Now lets see how this would play in the future:

Newbie: So how do I get BC and mine then?

Bitcoiner: Mining

Newbie: So, I have my PC, how do I mine?

BitcoineOr f: Forget it, you can´t really mine anymore with your PC

Newbie: He? Why, I read Bitcoins are mined with computers.

Bitcoiner: That was years ago, when Bitcoins was new. Today you would mine 0,0000000000000000001 bitcoins in a one year. Today Bitcoin is mined with specialized ASIC chips in specific hardware.

Newbie: Ahh, well, I don´t want to buy anything new. I have 3 computers, so I can´t mine?

Bitcoiner: Nop.

Newbie: So how do I get this ASIC device?

Bitcoiner: You can´t. Its on a special pre-order list, they are produced very rarely and you can be months on hold.

Newbie: Ah, no problem, I can wait, I assume I would make bitcoins eventually.

Bitcoiner: Not really, once you get your ASIC device, the mining hash increased so exponentially that you would need 10 devices to even break costs at the point, and since you will be on hold again, good luck....

Newbie: So who is mining bitcoins?

Bitcoiner: Well, there is this XX corporation that has 50 clusters in a datacenter full of ASIC servers and that other foundation that also has a huge cluster that they where growing over the year. They hold most of the bitcoins this days.

Newbie: So only this 2 are mining bitcoins?

Bitcoiner: Yes. Miners are history. They don´t exist anymore.

Newbie: Ok, thanks, this surely looks like a scam


You see the problem? Trust. If bitcoins started like this, today they would not even exist.

This post resumes more or less my point of view as well:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=180020.0

Im not the only one that thinks this is going to destroy the essence of P2P on which Bitcoins is being build. Its supposed to be our network.

Personally I have to admit that more I research Litecoin it not only seems 100 times more secure than Bitcoin but its also designed to prevent this flaw, and reward a P2P system. Its basically improves on Bitcoin itself.

And I have also read several articles about math calculations which show LiteCoin is not even allot more secure but will there be ASIC devices for it? In the future, probably, but they will not be amazingly more powerful than standard computing, to the point it would not deserve investment.

The biggest flaw LiteCoin is attacked now is that their network is small and so more insecure, but this is changing amazingly fast. In particular when all those Bitcoin miners move off to mine LiteCoin.

Also, it seems that LiteCoin was created in particular for being used with standard computing which is what a digital currency should be faithful too.

Also, if this things with ASIC goes bad or good with Bitcoin, regardless of what happens, LiteCoin will be second, so it can learn on the errors of Bitcoin. I see a future where Bitcoin will be used as gold, people are going to hold it, its going to cost allot and its going to be like an investment, and LiteCoin could be actually be the real currency that people use to buy and sell on the Internet.

The second is what I want. Or it could turn really ugly to Bitcoin to the point most people start to lose interest all together, and prices start to plumb more and more.

We don´t know, its all speculation. What is not speculation is that miners which are the foundation of Bitcoin are now building LiteCoins. This is amazingly bad for Bitcoin. Their first users that promoted them are betraying the system, as they see they are kicked out by ASIC devices. Some will buy ASIC devices, some will not bother, some will lose allot in them.

On the end, only the future can tell, but all I know is this. A digital currency which is supposed to be created by users, by a P2P network should be maintained by its users in the long run. Not everyone, I understand that it can´t for ever, but Bitcoin is very new, its not even mature and theirs users are already being alienated. And those buying ASIC devices are really shooting themselves in the foot, if they think they are going to pull out anything off with a few devices.

You need to spend allot on this devices, and even so, you have your days counted. The difficulty at which ASIC devices increases the network is just absolutely ridiculous. Maybe a 50%/50% in the future would could work like suggested in that other post, but right now its moving to full and complete monopoly and by those that where supposed to protect the bitcoins. The same people are destroying it in their needs of unlimited greed.

Clap clap very good text.
1705  Economy / Gambling / Re: [FREE 0.01 BTC] CoinsVictory.com - Play 10 games for free on: July 02, 2013, 10:33:59 PM
wrong post

 sorry
1706  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: HTML5 realtime Bitcoin charts - need your feedback please on: July 02, 2013, 10:31:33 PM
Very good, works on firefox 22 for ubuntu.
1707  Economy / Goods / Re: Selling a guide on how to double or even triple your bitcoins in 3-5 days on: July 02, 2013, 09:31:25 PM
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1708  Local / Mineração em Geral / PornHash - Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 02, 2013, 09:18:44 PM
Muito bem ct1aic, obrigado pela partilha.

Tens que experimentar uma coisa destas:



1709  Local / Portugal / Re: Ganhar bitcoin com chamadas telefónicas on: July 02, 2013, 10:58:35 AM
Recebi o primeiro payout!

Isto sem o Liechtenstein é muito lento...

O pagamento foi realizado segundos após o saldo ser atingido, tal como é descrito no site.

https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/0ce24a04c53f7395ae4610e7f8bef3fe90406bf407c343059e99976970ea5c69

0,05BTC nem é nada mau.
Eu andei aqui a pensar e lembrei-me de duas coisas...
Primeiro, o router do Meo dá para configurar o voip do Sapudas na 2ª porta.
Segundo, o voip do Sapudas também tem chamadas grátis para rede nacional, ilimitadas.
Dá para ter uma segunda linha constantemente ocupada, ou é impressão minha?
O que me lembrei foi de um modem (creio que até tenho um par de síncronos lá por casa, antigos, que dava para programar o número para se ligarem sem PC) a religar automaticamente no caso de cair a chamada.
Ou estou a pensar mal a coisa?

Já agora, o tarifário do batráquio:http://pkgadmin.sapo.pt/html/sapoAdsl_v2/tarifario_voip.html

Normalmente o *Ilimitado das operadores não é bem Ilimitado, tem sempre uns X minutos. Normalmente é 1000 Minutos.

Temos que confirmar.
1710  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 10:32:18 PM
Assim compensa ehehehhe
1711  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 10:06:59 PM
O que é vocês pensam da Kncminer? De momento parece-me o melhor investimento em termos de mining...

Um projeto interessante, mas só acredito quando alguém o receber e começar a minerar.

1712  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 09:55:47 PM
Check: http://www.dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation/

1713  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 09:41:42 PM
WOW  Grin
Vou esperar 24 horas, para verificar se há ganhos na taxa de Hardware Errors, que até agora era de 1%, com ventilação forçada.

Depois partilha com a malta,comprei 3 Fan Nox de 140MM só para as "meninas" tenho que ver como se portam.
1714  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 09:25:17 PM
WOW  Grin
1715  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
Eu ando a minar, play uma farm tuga era bastante interessante.
1716  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: *FREE BTC* -PrimeDice.com Giveaway Thread - 0.001-0.003 EA *FREE BTC* on: July 01, 2013, 04:12:34 PM
1LGbH8SvVcqjzhBLzJmMa9ymywCHx6WNvT

thnks
1717  Local / Mineração em Geral / Re: Duvida Placa da ATI Radeon Minera quantos BITICOIN on: July 01, 2013, 03:26:33 PM
Pesquisa aqui: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=90718.0
Abraço
1718  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Compre ações de uma fazenda de mineração de 200 GH/s (Saturn ASIC KnCMiner) on: July 01, 2013, 03:21:29 PM
Onde ficava o equipamento?
Temos acesso a estatísticas e detalhes da mineração?

Qual é o prazo para fazer a encomenda?
Essa empresa (do equipamento), tem-se mostrado credível?



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1719  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 03:20:35 PM
Está tudo a sair da toca Smiley
1720  Local / Portugal / Re: Portugal meeting!!! on: July 01, 2013, 10:01:45 AM
Olha outro a chegar Smiley

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Abraço
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