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1  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 04:06:00 AM
1.  I am not "saving newbies," i'm saving my bitcoin from getting shat up by scam and failure like Active Mining.

If you believe that Active Mining can take down Bitcoin then why are you invested in Bitcoin in the first place.?

I can't imagine using a currency that one company can bring to its knees it would have no stability of long term purpose. If you really believe Active Mining can take down Bitcoin you should probably sell your coins.

Dude, this single pest couldn't take down my bitcoin, but let it go unchecked -- the filthy bugger would find a mate, breed and multiply!  Think of Active Mining as a tick and my bitcoin as a giant moose.  What harm could one tick do?  Well bro, check this out:


Now you are being stupid. Bitcoin is a force that can survive governments, colossal corporate empires and the mainstream media. Only a complete and utter fool would think even a thousand Bitcoin scams could slow Bitcoin down one bit. During this price rise we have had thousands of Bitcoin stolen from a dozen sites, an assassination site has formed and Bitcoin still continues on.

Crumbs; if you really think ActiveMining and a million others like it can change the course of Bitcoin you are the stupidest idiot here. Please don't admit that is why you continue to troll this thread, what a waste of time.

Drawingthesun:
While lecturing me on bitcoin, keep in mind that i have it, while you gave yours away to an American alcoholic.
While calling me stupid, it pays to remember that it was you who gambled away your retirement fund, not i.
Minor details like that are important Smiley
2  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 01:53:06 AM
Volanic:
I've seen your post, it was intentionally left unanswered in hopes of you stopping your sperging.

i understand that Ken has got you by the balls, but please suffer quietly.

Dec 08 03:12:11 <AMC-CEO>       Yes, had a lot of PMs with VE tonight and a few on the thread.
Dec 08 03:12:25 <chairforce1>   personally i dont think it is correct for people to draw difinitive conclusions from some posts when they dont wiegh information in other posts equally
Dec 08 03:12:47 <chairforce1>   yea i feel people dont have the full story so imaginations r running wild
Dec 08 03:12:51 <AMC-CEO>       I let him know who had hold of his balls.
Dec 08 03:12:56 <chairforce1>   lol

Who got ur balls, who got your balls, want your balls, boy?  who wants his balls?  Go get the balls, boy, that'sa good boy, get the balls!
3  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 01:32:18 AM
I'll give you a plus 1 for effort Crumbs, don't you have family to be with for christmas instead of spending every waking hour on this thread "saving the newbies"/"gloating"?

I peak at this thread several times day to see if CT is live, but most the time the last post is by you.

Drawingthesun:

Yes, i have seen your post, but ignored it because it was answered too many times already.  Making allowances for your poor memory and retention, but you're becoming a bother.  Please try to remember:

1.  I am not "saving newbies," i'm saving my bitcoin from getting shat up by scam and failure like Active Mining.
2.  This takes no effort at all, telling the truth is pleasant and easy.  I have fun while cleaning up my bitcoin.
3.  If you gave as much thought to your investings as you do to my personal life, you wouldn't be broke now, would you?

I would like to thank all the Active Miners for contributing to this an cerebral debate.



1 - You have no Bitcoin invested here, so how exactly are you saving your bitcoin? My friend has never heard of ActiveMining but does not feel the need to post here to save his coin.

If your friend knew about this bag of fail and aids, he'd certainly post.  If he had any sense of civic duty.

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2 - Dude you are on this thread a lot, more so than most of the investors who actually have money on the line. This is a lot of effort to save bitcoin that has already been saved.....

This is where my answer would be if what you wrote made any sense.

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3 - I wrote one sentence about your personal life, that's not a large amount of thought, at least not for me.

You have obviously given your investings even less thought.
(Too late now, but getting snippy with me won't help either)
4  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 01:23:50 AM
Not an image I would like to have in my head.

Can you see it? Ken, our loving Uncle Ken who will make us all rich holding VolanicEruption's cajones in his hand.

No wonder crumbs is relentless in tormenting VE. Crumbs wish he was on the receiving end of that embrace.

Dec 08 03:12:11 <AMC-CEO>       Yes, had a lot of PMs with VE tonight and a few on the thread.
Dec 08 03:12:25 <chairforce1>   personally i dont think it is correct for people to draw difinitive conclusions from some posts when they dont wiegh information in other posts equally
Dec 08 03:12:47 <chairforce1>   yea i feel people dont have the full story so imaginations r running wild
Dec 08 03:12:51 <AMC-CEO>       I let him know who had hold of his balls.
Dec 08 03:12:56 <chairforce1>   lol


Ken's much more businesslike than you imagine him to be, Lorenzo.  There are no embraces, no sweet nothings whispered in Volanic's ear.
Heck, Volanic gets no lube or even bus fare home...  
5  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 01:07:31 AM
I'll give you a plus 1 for effort Crumbs, don't you have family to be with for christmas instead of spending every waking hour on this thread "saving the newbies"/"gloating"?

I peak at this thread several times day to see if CT is live, but most the time the last post is by you.

Drawingthesun:

Yes, i have seen your post, but ignored it because it was answered too many times already.  Making allowances for your poor memory and retention, but you're becoming a bother.  Please try to remember:

1.  I am not "saving newbies," i'm saving my bitcoin from getting shat up by scam and failure like Active Mining.
2.  This takes no effort at all, telling the truth is pleasant and easy.  I have fun while cleaning up my bitcoin.
3.  If you gave as much thought to your investings as you do to my personal life, you wouldn't be broke now, would you?

I would like to thank all the Active Miners for contributing to this an cerebral debate.

6  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 12:44:51 AM
Just because it says self moderate does not mean Ken actually spends his time worrying about you, crumbs. Besides which, whenever a post is deleted, you are sent a PM. One of my messages was deleted, and it indicated that the person was SaltySpoon. After correspondence with him, it was clear that Ken ignores the nonsense you and StuartUK post but that SaltySpoon does all the moderation.


 
Actually, Ken does not moderate this thread. There are two people who are associated with the site and have no connection to ActM who moderate it.
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Well, yes it does. 
How many of these screencaps would you like to admit you're wrong?
What's more, Ken seems to be following he Labcoin pattern --  start a self-moderated thread & then stop moderating it Cheesy
7  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 12:24:09 AM
Lol, welcome back, zumzero, i see you just couldn't stay away Cheesy

I haven't even bothered looking at Vbs' spreadsheet.  The promised hashrate was in the original prospectus, which has been last edited on the November 11, and the consecutive "FAQ" post, last edited on November 28 (hover the mouse over the post date to see last edit date) Cheesy

"History is written by those who revise it" -- lul ME.

Thanks!  It's great to be back.  Smiley

Forgive me but I'm not understanding the significance of not being allowed to edit posts on this thread's first page.  Is it not useful to update these posts with information as it happens?  I'd go as far to say that adding info such as sales figures is a good thing, no?

It is extremely useful, especially when you can edit the promises that were made.  You understand that there is no way to see the original prospectus, right?   Do you have a signed copy of a contract with Ken that i know nothing of?
8  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 12:18:12 AM
Actually, Ken does not moderate this thread. There are two people who are associated with the site and have no connection to ActM who moderate it.
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9  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 21, 2013, 12:08:25 AM
Crumbs is referring to Vbs's spreadsheet with projected hash rates which referenced Avalon hardware we never received and it's a tenuous link given that Vbs was outside the company when it was first published.

At no stage has Ken ever promised to achieve the figures that Vbs stated, so again, crumbs's argument falls flat on it's lolzy face.  Vbs is not Ken and this demonstrates how the trolls are clutching at straws.

Let's see if crumbs admits defeat here, or if he will retort in his sure-fire way and focus his hate campaign on the PR disaster that was the Advisory Board which included the sorely missed Vbs.


Lol, welcome back, zumzero, i see you just couldn't stay away Cheesy

I haven't even bothered looking at Vbs' spreadsheet.  The promised hashrate was in the original prospectus, which has been last edited on the November 11, and the consecutive "FAQ" post, last edited on November 28 (hover the mouse over the post date to see last edit date) Cheesy

"History is written by those who revise it" -- lul ME.
10  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 20, 2013, 11:59:52 PM
...Of course he has promised a certain hashrate by now.  Read your prospectus.
Sample chips?  ORLY?  Show me some pics.  Ken didn't even bother saying that there are any -- some "investors" here started reading a heap of tea leaves and rodent entrails and "deduced Cheesy" this.  There are no chips.
The website claims that products which do not yet exist start shipping last month.  Time doesn't work like that.
Every important verifiable claim is blown.

There is exactly zero evidence of any work having been done beyond updates to ken's 90s website and shuffling his shares from one failed exchange to the next.  No product after all this time.  Wake up, the coffee's getting cold.

Gah crumbs I'm done. You don't take evidence towards the company heading upwards, but your imagination seems to fuel your belief that it will fail.

BTW there is no promise about anything you've stated in the prospectus or any of Ken's announcements. You're wrong, but I am tired of proving that you are wrong over and over again. I would start to meet the definition of insane soon.

Lol, just went to the first post in this thread, what passes for prospectus around here.  And... the post was *edited* on Nov. 11 Cheesy  The next one, where he makes more promises -- edited on Nov. 28.  No wonder you can't find his promises, JoTheKahn.
But hey, you can still go to his website to find the November shipping promise  Lol, disregard!  It's been edited piecemeal again, with some pages claiming:

...while others

...while others

clicking on the first "miner" in the index slideshow box just gives


Ya gotta hold on 2 ur dreamz!!
11  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 20, 2013, 11:12:08 PM
Ok and where did Ken make any of these promises? He promised a certain hashrate by now? I did not see this. Which number was this? Chip Timeline seemed to be estimates and we have pretty much deduced we got sample chips in early/mid November. He has never promised us a picture either.

He hasn't renigged on one of these imaginary promises. Wow, Crumbs lied again.

I am no longer going on the assumption that you want to buy shares, thats not fair. Don't assume I wish to unload as soon as possible in return. As I have stated on multiple occasions that I do not want Ken wasting time on getting us on an exchange when he could use that time getting us mining.

Of course he has promised a certain hashrate by now.  Read your prospectus.
Sample chips?  ORLY?  Show me some pics.  Ken didn't even bother saying that there are any -- some "investors" here started reading a heap of tea leaves and rodent entrails and "deduced Cheesy" this.  There are no chips.
The website claims that products which do not yet exist start shipping last month.  Time doesn't work like that.
Every important verifiable claim is blown.

There is exactly zero evidence of any work having been done beyond updates to ken's 90s website and shuffling his shares from one failed exchange to the next.  No product after all this time.  Wake up, the coffee's getting cold.

*Posting lists of obsurdities like "once Ken has promised to post on Wednesday and zOMG look -- he did!" is a bit desperate even for this thread.
12  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 20, 2013, 10:58:25 PM
Every promise blown?

His most recent promise. Weekly updates seems to be on time every Wednesday, Hell the first one was on a Tuesday.

He made a promise about meeting with eAsic back in August, what? That seemed to be right too? No way!

He made a promise about paying the NRE weeks ago, (he made this promise back in August about paying in August if I remember correctly.) WHAT!?!? You mean he kept this promise too? Good God..

Then he promised us he would migrate the shares from BTCT to Bitfunder. I think this one happened too my friend.

He promised that he would start shipping in November. And he claimed that he had done so!! WHAT!?!?! NO FUCKING WAY. (Now this one is up for grabs but even if he shipped rom VMC to AcTM he still kept his promise as AcTM would be first in the queue. Amiright? (Did I do the internet slang right there?)

He promised us reports on the 15th and the 30th of November and I think I was there for both of those.

Wow. Are you telling me he has been keeping the promises he can as best he can? I am fucking amazed right now.

PS: Apologies for the adult language Crumbs.

This is getting ridiculous.  I'm not talking about a promise to make updates on Wednesdays, and instantly blowing it by making the first on Tuesday, and then posting another substanceless on time.  I'm talking about hashrate projections -- blown.  I'm talking about chip timeline -- blown.  I'm talking about not a single pic since the summer, other than the one where the other Active Mining director was tied up in the trunk of some Dodge in what was supposed to be Ken's production facilities.
Not his claim of "shipping product" without any confirmations or pics, or even making it clear exactly what the product was supposed to be.
This is simply absurd -- you're either trolling or jonesing to unload your bag.

P.S:  If adult language makes you feel more grownup, i understand.  No need to apologize in every post.
13  Economy / Securities / Re: Despite the death threats on: December 20, 2013, 10:44:28 PM
crumbs,

You have posted cartoons in another thread which come from Der Sturmer.

You seem to go from one thread to another, trying to pick fights. You have found fertile ground here, but that does not mean you are not a skilled and accomplished troll whose only goal is to see whom you can upset.

Yes, knybe is wrong, you are not psychotic at all, just an evil fellow who likes bullying others.

After the noob who buys my shares thanks me because he was able to make profit from dividends as provided by Uncle Ken, I will tell him that he was foolish and should have listened to you, the Goebbels of BitCoinTalk.
...

Lorenzo:
You have stopped making sense altogether.  Stick to short, terse sentences to avoid forgetting what you set out to say and finishing with a non sequitur.
*Full disclosure:  I am not Goebbels nor am i, or have i ever been, a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Lorenzo:
The cartoon was posted in reply to a poster raging against the evils of Israel and, by extension, Jews.  You do not know me, stop trying to paint me as a Nazi.
14  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 20, 2013, 10:36:39 PM
On the contrary I haven't defend Ken. I hold him accountable to every thing he says and everything he does. I have been looking at the facts and only the facts, you're letting your pride get ahead of you. You are so blinded by your pride you can't even fathom that you're wrong. I asks questions and look at every posts on this god damn thread, I take what everyone says at face value and look into it. I don't sit on my high horse and belittle people and try to scream scam every fucking day, every fucking hour, every fucking minute like you do. You should reread my post.

JoTheKhan:
I take no pride in knowing that Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure.  A reasonable child would come to the same conclusion.  I'd ask you to re-read my posts in this thread, but, like Labcoin, Ken "moderates" them.  Unlike Labcoin, Ken has also locked his unmoderated thread.  This exchange is, frankly, getting unproductive.  Once foul language and personal attacks start creeping into your posts, consider taking a break.

Don't worry I have read all of your posts. I can assure there was nothing substantial in any of them. The problem with having a conversation with you is that the conversation will undoubtedly have no substance as you can provide no counter arguments that contains evidence. This will almost always lead to Ad hominem attacks and insults about you and your character. I apologize I didn't mean to make any insults towards you and I apologize again for the adult language that I used.

You are playing the God's Argument. You claim scam but then when asked to provide evidence you claim. "There is no evidence it is not a scam." Until this changes I think you will only be met with Ad Hominem attacks.

PS: Look at what I have bolded in your quote. "lolworthy", you think of this as some sort of game, a game that you intend to win. You think of us as pieces on a board that you plan to move, you are playing a game and your pride is at stake. You pride yourself on something that has to do with this thread, unfortunately you are losing the game.

PS Again: Look at the second line that I have bolded. This is very productive, we have proved (With out a doubt I may add) that the main person against ActiveMining on this thread has NO proof. Seems like a very productive hour of my time compared to the weeks and weeks of time you spent on this forum posting artwork.

JowTheKahn:
Please re-read my posts that have not been deleted.  Each time i say that Active Mining is "scam/failed mining company" or "Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure," you seem to ignore the failure part and ask me to prove scam.  If you sincerely missed that, i'm pointing it out now.

Further, if a scam could be proven, it would be proven to be more than a scam -- it would be proven a failed scam.  That's an important point to keep in mind.

I have provided you with plenty of evidence of Active Mining being a failure -- every deadline blown, every promise broken.  You chose to ignore these facts.  That's fine, but don't assume that everyone else is also blind to them.
15  Economy / Securities / Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] on: December 20, 2013, 09:56:18 PM
On the contrary I haven't defend Ken. I hold him accountable to every thing he says and everything he does. I have been looking at the facts and only the facts, you're letting your pride get ahead of you. You are so blinded by your pride you can't even fathom that you're wrong. I asks questions and look at every posts on this god damn thread, I take what everyone says at face value and look into it. I don't sit on my high horse and belittle people and try to scream scam every fucking day, every fucking hour, every fucking minute like you do. You should reread my post.

JoTheKhan:
I take no pride in knowing that Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure.  A reasonable child would come to the same conclusion.  I'd ask you to re-read my posts in this thread, but, like Labcoin, Ken "moderates" them.  Unlike Labcoin, Ken has also locked his unmoderated thread.  This exchange is, frankly, getting unproductive.  Once foul language and personal attacks start creeping into your posts, consider taking a break.
16  Economy / Securities / Re: Despite the death threats on: December 20, 2013, 09:35:03 PM
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.



I am? Are you sure its not you. As I've stated before, show me evidence this is a failed/scam mining company. Show me evidence right now. Concrete evidence and I'll give you .1BTC. If you posts anything after this reply that is not evidence then you are explicitly stating "I have no evidence."

JoTheKhan:
I can present you with plenty of evidence of failure, such as every self-imposed deadline being blown, and no evidence of any product whatsoever.
Nothing but empty promises.
Of course, i have no conclusive evidence that Ken didn't scam you.  To this day, i also have no conclusive evidence that Labcoin is not a scam.
Go figure.

Hmm.. So you admit that YOU have no evidence for the bullshit you say on this thread and that YOUR imagination has run away with you.

Thank you.

Please reread.  The fact that each promise and every verifiable deadline were blown is as much proof of failure as any reasonable person can expect.  If you find that insufficient, please give me your definition of failure.
I'm sure you'll continue defending Ken long after others have accepted their losses and moved on.  I do not aim to convert every zealot.
Enjoy your "investment."
17  Economy / Securities / Re: Despite the death threats on: December 20, 2013, 09:25:05 PM
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.



I am? Are you sure its not you. As I've stated before, show me evidence this is a failed/scam mining company. Show me evidence right now. Concrete evidence and I'll give you .1BTC. If you posts anything after this reply that is not evidence then you are explicitly stating "I have no evidence."

JoTheKhan:
I can present you with plenty of evidence of failure, such as every self-imposed deadline being blown, and no evidence of any product whatsoever.
Nothing but empty promises.
Of course, i have no conclusive evidence that Ken didn't scam you.  To this day, i also have no conclusive evidence that Labcoin is not a scam.
Go figure.
18  Economy / Securities / Re: Despite the death threats on: December 20, 2013, 09:05:03 PM
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I have no plans to sell any share under .01 ...

 Cheesy Cheesy
19  Economy / Securities / Re: Despite the death threats on: December 20, 2013, 09:03:46 PM
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.

20  Economy / Securities / Re: Despite the death threats on: December 20, 2013, 08:56:05 PM
Care to explain why you feel the need to hide behind multiple names?

Two names at two separate times.

The first was very very hard on AMC before Ken restructured the company as I thought it could be a scam attempt. After the complete re-write of the IPO Ken was no longer able to legally take all profits and shareholders were given a guarantee about divs up to 0.0025 so I saw that his intentions were honest. ...

Lol, "i thought Ken was scamming but then he promised me moar, and i became convinced that he's legit!" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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