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661  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin and gambling which one has done you more harm on: September 30, 2023, 09:05:01 PM
But for me I think gambling is the one that done people more harm than bitcoins investment, because almost every day people gamble with different platforms but its few of people that invest in a day or weekly, I will like us to discuss these.
I would still say Gambling.
However, with Bitcoin, we can manage the risk so that it is not too big and does not become gambling. We can prepare ourselves with knowledge about Bitcoin, based on the security of ourselves and various parties, with good risk management, strong mentality, and also financial who are healthy, then we may be able to minimize the risk. This doesn't mean we will eliminate all risks, no, but to minimize risks. We can use Bitcoin for long term holding if we cannot afford risky trading. So we can pamper him better. This is different from gambling. The higher the risk, the more harm it will be for us. Although in the end it will also depend on each individual,
662  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: September 30, 2023, 08:58:45 PM
The match is heading for a draw. Despite leading 2-0 at the end of the first half, Bayern Munich stepped up their attack in the second half. And the team scored two goals in 70 minutes. Despite playing very defensively in the second half, Leipzig did not survive. They conceded two goals. At the end of 85 minutes, Leipzig had only 6 shots in total. I expected a more attacking performance from Leipzig in the home match. Because the team was in very good form. However, even getting 1 point against Bayern Munich would be a big achievement for Leipzig. However, if Munich can score another goal in the last 5 minutes, I will not be surprised at all.
Honestly, Leipzig was extraordinary in this match, and Bayern ultimately only got a draw. Moreover, Leipzig was able to take the lead during the first half, and was even able to trouble Bayern's defense. Even though Bayern actually had control of the match, in fact, they couldn't win in the end. The accuracy of kicks on target for Leipzig was only 2 and all of them ended in goals. This is really good. I thought Bayern would win, at least by 1 goal difference, it turned out this was beyond my expectations, draw result. lucky to still draw, not lose. If so, then they will be blamed by various parties.

On the other hand, Leverkusen, who this season are Bayern's competitors, actually got an absolute victory over Mainz. They played quite aggressively and controlled the match from the start. Now they are in first place in the Bundesliga standings. But who knows how long it will last.
663  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Good fundamentals don't ensure a great investment. on: September 30, 2023, 08:51:51 PM
In summary, a project's fundamentals are only one piece of the investment puzzle, especially when dealing with highly inflationary tokens.

What do you think about this ?
Of course, good fundamentals are not the only thing that makes a project truly successful. Maybe we have seen how a project has very good fundamentals and quite good development, but ultimately stops along the way due to various reasons. Factors of progress and project capabilities, especially in this era, are very varied. Moreover, various projects currently put forward hype that can attract various investors. However, only some of them have good fundamentals so they won't last long. On the other hand, if you have good fundamentals but a mediocre team, especially if the project's promotion and financial systems are mediocre or even lacking, then the project will not be able to develop well. This is what makes us need to be more alert and careful when concluding a new project that we will approach or invest in.
664  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 30, 2023, 08:43:23 PM
If I was told Manchester City will play with the second team vs Wolverhampton, I will still say City will win or at worst get a draw! I didn't expect them to lose especially after they were kicked from EFL Cup these days..
This was a very unexpected result. I'm sure that most will think Man City will definitely be the winner. From all sides, Man City is superior to Wolves. This was their first defeat this season, especially when they lost when Guardiola was not on the field. This must be very disappointing for him. However, everything has happened, what must be done next is to stay focused on other matches in the future. This may be an embarrassing defeat, however, as a big team, this should not bring down the players mentally. And Man City must evaluate this defeat very well. In fact, next week, they have to play Arsenal, so this will be a challenge for them, especially to revive their motivation and mental strength after receiving defeat against this middle-class club.
665  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 30, 2023, 08:35:54 PM
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I think Roma is increasingly falling behind the top 4 teams and their mission to achieve 1 UCL ticket seems to be quite difficult for them to do. They are above 2 teams in the relegation zone. So Roma this season might just be trying to stay away from the relegation zone if they look at the bad results they have experienced this season. Dybala and Lukaku have not been able to contribute much to Roma this season, they have not been able to take advantage of opportunities to score goals when they have the chance.
With Roma's current condition, ability and solidity, it will be very difficult for them to return to top standing. Never mind joining or qualifying for the UCL next season, even getting into the UEFA League won't be possible if they are still like this. In fact, Roma is not a fake club, they are a club that can be reckoned with, especially since they have Mou, a coach who is very talented, professional and has character. However, when everything is not going well together, then all potential will turn bad and cannot be optimal. I heard rumors that Mou wanted to leave Roma because there were some problems.

By the way, Napoli has started to climb back to the top and improve its performance. Napoli's absolute victory over Lecce added points for them to return to the top. However, the journey and competition are still long. On the other hand, Inter are currently ahead of Salernitana 0 - 4. Inter will definitely win, they are very on fire, that aside, Salernitana is not a tough opponent even though sometimes it is quite troublesome.
666  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Is Bitcoin really risky as they say? on: September 30, 2023, 08:25:04 PM
Generally, most people sees Bitcoin as being of high risk , meanwhile, others tend to disagree with the fact of being risky.

Bitcoin can be understood from different angles on how it will become beneficial to one. Either as a store of value(So as to avoid taxes), Investment or means of payment.
Every investment will definitely have risks. How big the risk is will depend on the individual doing it. Bitcoin can be both high and low risk. Yes, once again, how you prepare yourself to invest in Bitcoin, how you run it, and how you enter and exit, will also have an effect on Bitcoin. Not only that, what is your mental condition and mental readiness to invest will also influence how high the risk is.

If you enter Bitcoin without any preparation in terms of knowledge, finances and also mentally, it means you don't understand Bitcoin, which means it will be really high risk for you. However, when you are ready from various aspects, it will be lower risks. but still, there will be no zero-risk investment, whatever it is, not only Bitcoin, but all investments.
667  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 29, 2023, 09:46:07 PM
Bayern Munich is not as dangerous as they were three,four seasons ago, they had one of the best team in the champions League, they defeated big teams but they were always eliminated when they least expected it but yet they managed to stay strong as one of the best opponents when it comes to the champions League but when they finally dropped in form and their performance dropped it became very difficult for their then coach to put them back together and so he was sacked and replaced by Thomas Tuchel whom the team believes will bring them back the lost glory.
Yes, it could say that. However, Bayern Munich often troubles its opponents. Especially this season, I think, they will be better than last season. They are usually very strong in midfield, and this time, they are even stronger in the front line because of Kane's presence this season. So their strength cannot be underestimated because it is indeed better than last season. However, the UCL is not an easy league because there are a lot of strong teams there so the matches will always be tough. Many rival clubs are also strong. but at least Bayern Munich have prepared this quite well.
668  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 29, 2023, 09:42:15 PM
Barcelona playing on Friday night for the first time in a very long time and the score is 0 - 0 despite some big chances from both sides, with Ocampos missing for Sevilla and Fermin as well as Felix missing for Barcelona.
Barcelona vs Sevilla
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After their long struggle, Barcelona finally got 1 goal because of Ramos' OG. This is a lucky break. because the match went pretty tough. Sevilla also played quite well, but unfortunately they made a fatal mistake which resulted in defeat.
669  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What to do with spam and scam tokens on my wallet? on: September 29, 2023, 09:38:44 PM
Hi, please tell me, I have information that my wallet (BNB Smart Chain) has 9 tokens stored on it. Of them 2 tokens are normal: BNB and LUNA, the other tokens were sent to me by scammers. And now they are stored on my wallet. How can I get rid of them? How can I stop such "left" tokens from being sent to me? What do you do with such tokens? I tried to see these tokens through PancakeSwap and Trust Wallet, but they are not displayed there.
This happens very often and it's not just you. Have you ever shared your wallet address? If so, they actually sent it to you on purpose, they could be part of the scammers. Because there are lots of tokens like that that are sent to private wallets. And unfortunately there is no way to remove them and stop them from sending such tokens again. If they want to, then they will do it again. Maybe it could be different people or the same person. And this happens not only on BSC wallets but also ERC20 and others. Just be patient, let them be and ignore them even though they are a bit disturbing to the view and sometimes they cover the original tokens that we have because there are so many of them.
670  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Youth Gambling on: September 28, 2023, 09:59:32 PM
Among young people is a result of the availability of gambling alternatives, such as sports betting and online gambling. Gambling disorders can have long-term effects on a person's ability to complete their education and choose their future, and young individuals may be particularly susceptible to acquiring these illnesses
Yeah, we could say that one of the effects of the increasing popularity and easy access to online gaming is that everyone, even young people, can access it. This is even very easy to find in various advertisements with incredibly attractive promotions. And after that, not all of them can control themselves so as not to fall and become addicted to gambling. Meanwhile, gambling is very susceptible to addiction. So when they can't control it then this will have a bad impact on them, what's worse is when they are addicted to gambling which will be difficult to treat and make them aware of so that they can manage and mature themselves again before entering the world of gambling. Maybe this will be difficult to do. Therefore there must be cooperation from various parties.

Parental controls in this case are also very important. Even though we are aware that it is impossible for us to monitor children's activities 24 hours a day, at least we can establish good communication by building good quality time, and making children trust us to discuss and tell stories. From here, we can see whether our children or relatives have fallen into gambling addiction or not. So that we can better understand how to deal with it wisely and well, so that children don't feel too stressed by what happens to them. Because after all, young people are usually still very emotional in making decisions and in a hurry, so they are not yet able to consider everything maturely and wisely, even though they can actually be very smart.
671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why is cryptocurrency illegal in some countries? on: September 28, 2023, 09:56:52 PM
In many countries, it isn't illegal, however the countries that have made it illegal do so for many reasons, volatility is one of the most often cited reasons, as is energy use, concerns over destabilization, or the ease with which criminals' activities can be financed and conducted using them. Forgetting the advantage of cryptocurrency which has over the years gained popularity amongst investors globally.
There are several factors that might influence it.
Like the volatility that you have explained. Under the pretext that they want to protect their citizens from various losses resulting from the volatility that exists in Bitcoin.

Not only that, the many negative issues about Bitcoin are also a reason for those who don't like implementing illegal regulations in their country. In this case, governments (although perhaps not all, but most) agree and consider that Bitcoin has more negative impacts than positive. They may think that Bitcoin or cryptocurrency is not real, has no backup, and cannot be held. Not only that, there is no guarantee that the price will continue like that. This is the purpose of their protection of their citizens.

Apart from that, there may also be other negative issues, namely that Bitcoin is decentralized so the government cannot control it.

However, behind that reason, there are already many citizens who have been helped thanks to Bitcoin and are able to continue their lives well with Bitcoin. Because after all, as long as we can optimize the positive side of Bitcoin then it will be very profitable for everyone.
672  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 28, 2023, 09:32:20 PM
AS Roma achieved another bad result after being defeated by Genoa 4-1, this was Roma's 3rd defeat in 6 matches in Serie A and a pretty bad start for Jose Mourinho. Current Serie A standings, AS Roma behind 2 points from relegation zone Udinese and warning for Jose Mourinho how to make AS Roma back to the top position.
This was a truly embarrassing result, being slaughtered by the middle-team again and again. Ball possession does not guarantee that they will win as long as their executor plays poorly. On the other hand, Genoa's counter attacks and shots on target all resulted in goals. This is very different from Rome. The dispute between Mou and several players was quite obvious. Roma is currently not doing well. If this continues, their position will continue to fall even further. With conditions like this, it will be difficult for Roma to return to top position.
673  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 28, 2023, 09:12:57 PM
Granada vs Real Betis currently 0-0 at half time, no goals on both team side. Granada was more aggressive in this match, they had several golden opportunities at home. Statistically, even though Granada lost in possession of the ball, but they weren't too bad. Even, it seems like Granada will get a point in that match, maybe one points because Real Betis cannot be underestimated either. The second half will start, I hope Granada not waste their golden opportunity.
The final result of Granada vs Real Betis ended in a 1 - 1 draw.
Real Betis was indeed able to take more ball possession, but it was Granada who were more attacking. Unfortunately, there were many wasted opportunities from Granada themselves, so that after equalizing in the 67th minute, there were no additional goals from either of them. Even though this should be a good moment for Real Betis to win, especially against clubs in the relegation zone. But yes, the results have ended in a draw, what can we do? Real Betis has not been able to optimize its performance this time.

Atletico Madrid got a big boost from winning against Real Madrid and i think they will win this match as well, they are looking really well and this might be a start of a winning streak for them and if they manage to get three points they will certainly come really close to the top.
Yeah, this should be a good motivation for them, but don't be overconfident. Because in the second half, Osasuna looked very persistent and Atletico Madrid started having difficulty winning the ball. Even though Osasuna also controlled the game and often carried out attacks. but it hasn't produced results yet.
The current position is still 0 - 1 in favor of Atletico Madrid.
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Now, Atletico is leading more with 2 goals.
0 - 2
674  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Pertimbangan Sebelum Berinvestasi Bitcoin - Untuk Pemula on: September 26, 2023, 11:41:38 PM
Saya berharap dan semoga akan ada konsultan atau lembaga yang khusus menangani konsultasi investasi di ranah crypto. Yang benar-benar berlisensi dan mampu memberikan perlindungan konsumen khususnya di Indonesia.
Sebelumnya, saya mau memastikan dulu konsultan atau lembaga seperti apa yang agan maksud?
Jika yang dimaksud adalah konsultan serta lembaga/asosiasi terkait perlindungan dan investasi di crypto, sebenarnya sejak tahun 2022, pemerintah sudah membentuk Perkumpulan Konsultan Hukum Aset Kripto Indonesia (PKHAKI) dan Indonesia Crypto Consumer Association (ICCA) secara legal atau resmi ya.
Ini sumbernya:
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Namun memang belum banyak orang yang paham dengan keduanya dan bahkan tidak tahu menahu fungsi dari kedua asosiasi atau lembaga ini. Sehingga kita tidak bisa mengoptimalkan manfaat dari keduanya.

Terlebih jika seseorang tersebut masih baru dan hanya ikut-ikutan saja, serta tidak mau belajar dan mengorek informasi sebelum berinvestasi,  ya jangankan melakukan konsultasi, mereka membaca saja malas, karena hanya berpikiran untuk dapat cuan sesegera mungkin. Ini mindset sebagian besar newbies seperti ini. Terlebih lagi, sudah ada berapa banyak sumber dan pembahasan kalau kita lihat baik di forum ini maupun berbagai sumber lainya baik website, social media, YouTube, dan lain sebagainya yang sebenarnya banyak yang memberikan wawasan, pengajaran, konsultasi dan lain sebagainya bahkan secara gratis? Sangat banyak kita jumpai. namun terkadang itu tidak akan bekerja bagi seseorang dengan mindset ingin cepat dapat cuan secara instan, dan lebih percaya pada infleuncers atau siapapun yang menawarkan proyek hype yang menjanjikan cuan bear secara cepat. Jadi ya balik lagi ke individunya masing-masing...
675  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Seas on: September 26, 2023, 11:23:16 PM
Definitely Chelsea is in no way fit to be in the champions league at this time, going by the recent happening around them they would definitely make a mess of their selves if there were at the ucl, most likely they would have found it difficult to win any game at all, loosing streaks would be their experience most of the times as they don't have the capacity at the moment.
Never mind entering the Champions League, their performance in the EPL is not good enough, in fact it could be said to be very bad. So, since last season, Chelsea really can't be counted on to enter the UCL. They are experiencing a complicated crisis in a number of ways that apparently cannot be resolved even so far. Even now in the EPL, they are still ranked 14th, this is a pretty bad ranking for a club like Chelsea. For this reason, they must be able to improve their performance first, their management, especially a coach who can really build them again, like from scratch, and this will not be easy.
676  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Why China Recognize Bitcoin? on: September 26, 2023, 10:32:40 PM
[News article]
"Shanghai Court Recognizes BTC as Digital Currency"
Shanghai court recognizes Bitcoin as digital currency, citing its uniqueness and potential for ownership disputes.
In fact, when there was a ban on all crypto activities in China several years ago, crypto activities there also did not stop, in fact they continue and develop to this day. And what's more, if now their activities are protected by law, this will make things easier for them. However, we will see later whether this will change again or not as time goes by. Because we know how this country plays against Bitcoin and Crypto as a whole. Let's just follow them. This might be a good trigger for positive trends, at least it would be good to pick up the bullish era. But once again, however, we shouldn't just be careless when it comes to dealing with things like this. Remain as usual and continue to be wise in all decision making for the crypto activities that we personally undertake.
677  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: September 26, 2023, 09:59:13 PM
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The problem is not only from the defender the whole team lacks confidence especially the midfield area, they're not really working hard to mark their opponents and recover the ball,  I wonder how they got to this point, they lack creativity, team spirit and play like they're not training enough, if you noticed the ball was always going to the back and it felt like Manchester United defense where the only ones enjoying the game in their team, Marcus has to work on his pride, he needs to start working with Højlund because he fails to release passes at the accurate time to him
This means that the real point is that there are many shortcomings or lacks in Man United, even the coach too. Well, this is complicated. There has to be a major overhaul, but the problem is with the typical ten Hag, whether he wants it. Luckily they won yesterday when they played against Burnley, so they have at least got 2 wins so far. Otherwise, they would really be reviled, especially by their fans.

And in the next match, they will face Crystal Palace. Even though this is a middle-class club, they have been able to trouble Man United several times. So, they must continue to be vigilant and not underestimate the club. Ten Hag must be truly focused and optimal in developing strategies. And makes the players even more motivated even though currently they really seem to be experiencing a very low drop in motivation.

678  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2023/24 on: September 26, 2023, 09:55:42 PM
Unexpected performance from Mallorca scoring two goals. The first goal have come on the 8th minute of the match from Muriqi and this added pressure on Barcelona. After hard fight goal came for Barcelona at the 41st minute from Raphinha. This boosted the performance of the team, but Mallorca didn't delay for the next goal. During the additional time goal came for Mallorca from Abdon and once again the score leads 2-1. In the second half with much effort Barcelona's Lopez made the team's second goal in the 75th minute.
I really didn't expect that, with fairly small odds like that, they were able to optimize it so well. Just imagine, they only have little ball possession and little opportunity to attack, like relying on a counter attack against Barcelona. However, they were able to equalize the position 2 - 2. This is quite a good achievement for a club like that. Moreover, Barcelona is known as an offensive club too. And they seemed to have difficulty penetrating Mallorca's defense in this match. Unfortunately Lewandowski was not played as a starter, perhaps because Xavi felt that Mallorca was not a club to watch out for.

Hemm, with this result, their position will also be threatened. If Girona wins against Villareal and Real Madrid wins against Las Palmas, then Barcelona will be overtaken.
679  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you see any value in move to earn crypto projects? on: September 26, 2023, 09:50:04 PM
There are some move to earn projects like stepn, stepapp etc . Do you see any value in them or it is just a death spiral?
Actually you have the answer.
It will be going to be a death project, like other shit project cycles, where there will be hype and then death.
Actually, not all projects like this will be death projects like others. However, it cannot be denied that the majority will be like that. But why does this still exist and why are there still investors who dare to take or put their money in projects like this? The answer is yes because they can take the opportunity to earn profits from projects like this. And the victims again and again are new people, or like you who don't understand but immediately jump in because of extraordinary trigger promises.

This is what often happens. Moreover, these experienced investors and the team will carry out any promotions that make this kind of project even more hype and make people FOMO, and when the market is up, what will happen? Will the project survive? For the most part, the answer is NO. Therefore, if you are new and haven't been able to take advantage of this moment, it's better to just avoid it, don't speculate, just avoid it so that your money is safer. Just learn first the various ways to get income from projects or cycles like that. .
680  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season on: September 25, 2023, 09:52:55 PM
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Dortmund is not very strong this season after Bellingham departure because in the domestic league alone Dortmund has not been able to show good performance. For PSG, the first win will be quite important for them because slowly Luis Enrique has proven his best qualities to rebuild PSG strength after their imbalance of strength in the domestic league this season.
With its current condition, especially being in the hell group of UCL, Dortmund's position is very difficult. They are not a small club, but their performance so far cannot be considered enough to compete with their competitors in the group. Losing to PSG in the first match is something that is very likely to happen with Dortmund's current strength. And later they will compete against Milan, who in fact are the giants of Serie A. It certainly won't be easy for Dortmund to beat Milan. Even though last week, Milan could only draw with Newcastle, so now they definitely want to maximize their potential so they can win. receive full points again. From here, MIlan will definitely be even more optimal. If Dortmund can do it better, they should also be able to gain an advantage. But unfortunately, currently Dortmund's condition is not very good.
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