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1  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [DISKUSI] Harga Bitcoin on: September 27, 2021, 02:36:33 PM
Saat China sedang asyik main ban, ini ada sedikit spekulasi mengenai "drama ETF", menurut artikel yang dipublish di Forbes, ada kemungkinan SEC memberikan lampu hijau untuk BTC dalam waktu dekat. Tapi, jujur saja, kabar ini masih belum pasti juga, karena belum ada informasi resmi yang dikeluarkan oleh SEC secara langsung. Hasilnya, spekulasi ini pun tidak memberikan dampak besar terhadap BTC, walaupun disinyalir bulan depan BTC akan bullish jika SEC benar-benar memberikan tempat untuk BTC.

Dari El-Salvador, Nayib mengklaim pengguna Chivo mencapai 2 juta+, ini jauh melebihi jumlah nasabah bank di seluruh El Salvador, yang menjadi pertanyaan adalah, apakah pengguna real atau fake? Kok kayanya, akan lebih banyak tuyul untuk mendapatkan $30 BTC daripada real usernya haha.
2  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Pengalaman Meminjam uang di Dunia Crypto on: September 27, 2021, 02:16:31 PM
ini resiko defi yang masih banyak orang belum sadari. saya juga berinvestasi di defi namun lebih memilih untuk bermain di tempat aman saja
saat ini yang aman menurut saya hanyalah pancakeswap, semoga saja tidak ada kejadian aneh aneh yang menimpa pancakeswap

Untuk DEX, mas juga perlu hati-hati, memang dari pihak Pancake mereka tidak akan scam, tetapi masalah hacking masih bisa terjadi. Seperti kasus Sushi dan dex lainnya. Kalau hanya untuk trading seharusnya sih aman-aman saja, tapi kalau untuk ikut liquidity, selama bukan token baru anonim atau meme ga jelas, seharusnya tidak masalah. Yang dikhawatirkan pada kasus flashloan attack, minting untuk nguras liquidity, dan sebagainya.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: September 27, 2021, 02:10:40 PM
I have a hard time predicting what will happen in this match because the three core ATM players will play (Felix, Koke and Lemar) while Milan still can't play Ibrahimovich


In Serie A, Milan was still able to hold Juventus to a draw even they played without Ibrahimovic. I am sure when Milan meets Atletico, they can show a game that makes it difficult for Atletico, playing at home and the results of the last 5 matches in Serie A will improve AC Milan's mentality. However, for Atletico, it is likely to be difficult, especially since they are also under their best performance in La Liga.
4  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: [Diskusi] Analisa Teknikal Bitcoin buat day trader on: September 27, 2021, 10:22:06 AM
Saya sependapat dengan di atas, namun balik lagi ada yang mengerti teknikal dan cenderung ke fundamental akan saling silang pendapat antara mereka, jika di saat bersamaan muncul kedua kondisi berbeda, misalkan orang tehnikal bilang akan turun padahal ada fundamental berita bagus di saat bersamaan dia ngomong itu.
Lalu apa yang akan kita lakukan, ketika kita melihat ada perbedaan tersebut? Inilah yang kemudian menjadikan keduanya sebagai bagian penting dalam trading, saya cenderung sepakat dengan apa yang disampaikan oleh mas @Luzin, terkadang trader membutuhkan penopang untuk mengambil keputusan dalam strategi trading mereka, khususnya orang-orang teknikal. Misal, ada chart bagus untuk entry, fundamental belum keluar, kita sudah entry karena dari teknikal mendukung, selang beberapa jam, kita menemukan fundamental negatif, dari strategi A, pada akhirnya kita akan mengikuti fundamental negatif untuk mencoba melihat kembali apakah efeknya akan kuat atau tidak, jadi kita dapat membuat keputusan ulang dari kondisi market ini.
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All crypto declared illegal in China!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 27, 2021, 09:47:26 AM
So here we go again and again? China and China for how many times?

the market already accepted that China will never be a part of this market so move on guys, we can strive and survive and also succeed in time without china in our side so why bother always??

instead news like this only brings bad reaction to the market things that we don't want to happen usually.

In 2010 when I heard bitcoin for the first time, my manager talked about bitcoin going viral in China. However, in recent years China has become the country that contributes the highest FUD. There may be some relevance between the current FUD and the past conditions of BTC. Where BTC experienced an increase in users because China accepted BTC at that time. Currently, Binance and Huobi are deregistering new user from China, i think another exchange will follow, which can be a good thing, because in the future, market will not be subject to FUD from China anymore.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 27, 2021, 09:38:46 AM
Napoli achieved satisfactory results in the last 5 matches of Serie A with 5 wins in a row, although AC Milan performed quite well, the result against Juventus left AC Milan behind. Atalanta are still showing that they are not a weak team. With a draw against Inter, it can still be said Atalanta are currently in the same condition as Juventus, trying to find their best performance.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: All crypto declared illegal in China!!!!!!!!!!!!! on: September 24, 2021, 03:27:16 PM
Another FUD from China. Each year, we have multiple FUD from China.

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If we look at this picture, it looks like there is a pattern that was deliberately carried out by China. It can be seen from several events that occurred after BTC reached its highest price or before it started to rise. According to some analysts I found (forgot the source), BTC is currently in a decline phase, but if it drops below 28K, maybe we will see BTC go down and enter a panic psychology that increases dumps.
8  Local / Altcoins (Bahasa Indonesia) / Re: Pengalaman Meminjam uang di Dunia Crypto on: September 24, 2021, 03:05:18 PM
3. Jika dana yang dipinjam habis 100%, apakah crypto yang dijaminkan akan diambil 100% atau hanya senilai yang kita pinjam saja?

Poin ini sebenarnya sudah dijawab oleh mas joniboini, pada dasarnya sistem pinjamannya sama saja dengan mas naruh BPKB di pegadaian mas, pasti udah paham kan sisanya.

Cuma, harus diperhatikan pula, jika mas meminjam di decentralized lending, mas membutuhkan koneksi smart kontrak, jika mas memilih ETH untuk saat ini, maka mas pastinya akan dikenakan ongkos bolak balik, nah saat gas mahal kaya sekarang, aset akan kepotong lebih banyak. kecuali gas ETH sudah kembali ke kisaran 1-10gwei, mungkin bisa dipilih kembali.
9  Local / Jual Beli / Re: [ANN] CRYPTOINDEX EXCHANGES ||| PLATFORM TRADING KRIPTO INDONESIA on: September 24, 2021, 02:24:43 PM
Mohon maaf, saya mencoba untuk membuka website Anda, namun saya mendapatkan halaman ini:

Entahlah apakah hanya saya saja yang mengalami atau memang ada masalah pada SSL, mohon untuk segera diselesaikan, dikhawatirkan nanti dikira website Anda ini ada apa-apanya  Grin.

Jika member lain ada yang membuka juga, mungkin bisa diinfo, apakah mengalami masalah yang sama atau hanya saya saja. (net yang saya pakai tsel)

Kemudian, sebaiknya Anda memindahkan thread ke CB Jual Beli, cara memindahkannya ada di pojok kiri bawah thread.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ English Premier League Season: 2021/2022 on: September 24, 2021, 02:09:31 PM
Are you already trusting Arsenal to deliver this season because of the little bright performance the team is having now and forgetting that Arsenal is the most inconsistent club in the EPL for years with no cup to show for all its playing time?

The last few games the team faced arsenal is a team that is not strong enough if we are compared with Arsenal players. The victory obtained is a factor in the quality of the team under them. It's an ordinary result, nothing special and perhaps not a sign of Arsenal will be good till end of season. Losing 3 games out of 5 is not a good result, because Arsenal could have done better.



Leicester also started this season with trouble, next game, they should be able to win the game, because they meet a team that has not been able to win an EPL game. They are not just this season playing in several competitions (EPL, FA, UEL), i think they are know how to manage their key player to stay fit.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: September 23, 2021, 02:15:42 PM
Also there’s a sad update that Messi is being reported injured and may not play against City, and it looks like City fans are having a fun day at his expense.
I think against City it will make a difference for PSG compared to the first game. PSG players will concentrate more on winning this match. PSG's failure in the first match, could be because the players underestimated their opponents. Of course it will be different when dealing with big teams, players will be more excited to compete and focus to win from the start. but if they are lose, and Club Brugge win over Leipzig, they are still can be strong candidate for qualified club to the next phase.
12  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: El Salvador dengan 200 BTC on: September 23, 2021, 01:47:18 PM
Kadang ini terasa lucu ketika seseorang membeli, apakah mereka harus mempublis wallet mereka ? Seharusnya jika yang membeli adalah negara, bagaimana mungkin mempublis itu kan sepertikata Indonesia membuat coin rupiah dan mereka menampakan wallet BI.

Negara sudah seharusnya melaporkan berapa nilai aset negara yang ada saat ini untuk publik. Karena, mereka sebagai pengelola uang untuk rakyat. Contoh sederhana, laporan keuangan Indonesia. Sama halnya dengan pembelian BTC ini, mungkin CryptoWhale menginginkan hal serupa, agar apa? agar mereka tahu bahwa 700 BTC yang disebutin memang benar-benar ada bukan untuk di korupsi (saya nangkapnya ke situ). Memang pengguna Chivo Wallet menerima $30 dalam BTC saat registrasi, ini bisa menuju ke tuduhan sebagai "upaya mengelabuhi". mungkin seperti itu sih yang dimaksudkan, namun, kita sudah paham, address BTC tidak bisa dihack, kecuali kelalaian pengguna mempublikasikan key/seed/wallet.dat. Jika hanya menunjukkan Address, ini tidak akan menjadi masalah kok. Orang tahu addressnya Vitalik, addressnya Satoshi, tapi aset tetep aman-aman aja kok  Grin
13  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: September 23, 2021, 01:31:03 PM
You have landed yourself in a tough spot by placing a bet for the range of $52k - $55k. But there's still around 32 hours left from now.
Just in case you want to add some satoshis to your betting then you can place another bet for a lower range.

Yes, yesterday I went in with the remaining satoshi I had, not too much and chose to put it in a lower area. If it is in the current range, maybe my prediction is correct. although it can not cover the loss in the previous bet. But its okay, just a game.

I have always found BTC price prediction a little tough and so I place my bets on ETH price prediction.
There are some good ranges in ETH price prediction that we can place our bets on.

because the price of BTC has up and down with higher value compared to altcoins, so it will be hard to choose the options. But this is what makes me prefer to bet on BTC.  Grin
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 23, 2021, 01:19:24 PM
I think it's not only you who have negative predictions about Inter before the season starts, I personally also think that Inter who was left by Conte and also some of his core players last season will be the most chaotic and weak team this season, but that's what I think Previously it was in contrast to the current reality, in fact Juventus, which I thought could be the strongest candidate for the Scudetto, actually experienced a pretty bad performance decline and even now Juventus are in the relegation zone Cry.


Yes, many people think the same with us. This will be a great experience for Simone Inzaghi, look like he doesn't want to waste the opportunity that Inter has given for him.

About Juventus, I remember Allegri also failed at AC Milan before, I think something similar can happen with Juventus. If Ronaldo's departure is the cause of this bad performance from Juventus, of course it is a big mistake for Juve when they releases him. However, financial problems may also be a consideration for them to release Ronaldo, and it would be better to be sold now than a free transfer. Although in the end they became a sleeping club. Pirlo was considered failed last season, Allegri came but still didn't make a difference, i think, Allegri more worse than the start made by Pirlo.
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How did you get in early on certain alts? What's your source.. on: September 23, 2021, 01:06:30 PM

forgive the stupid question ...      but what do you mean by "trapped in a token scam that compromises your address"  ??


Address (smart contract) I mean what harm or can compromise the wallet is that when you allow smart contracts to transact (swap), the smart contract can steal valuable assets that you own. Scammer choose tokens according to their wishes, both stable and non-stable. This case was very common a few months ago in the BSC network. Of course, the same thing can also happen in new projects on the ETH and Polygon networks.
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: How did you get in early on certain alts? What's your source.. on: September 22, 2021, 03:44:10 PM
In my experience, I use Twitter with multiple keywords based on hashtags. Another way, I joined Telegram group, but this was not just joining the telegram group from stranger, but a group where one of my friends knew the members and quality of the group. However, this way does not guarantee a 100% legit project. so you have to be careful if you follow the channel/group/socmed account early tokens/project. The worst thing is that you are trapped in a token scam that compromises your address.
17  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Platform Exchanges Di Indonesia on: September 22, 2021, 03:36:43 PM
Review yang pernah saya gunakan

Indodax: dari segi UI, saya sih tidak ada masalah dengan Indodax, tetapi mereka terlalu percaya diri dengan layanan mereka saat ini dan cenderung lelet untuk melakukan upgrade server, sehingga ketika ada trafik yang tinggi dan aktivitas jual beli tak terduga, server langsung hang (lag). Ini tentu merugikan bagi pengguna, Kemudahan penarikan ada pada voucher, namun dari segi ongkos penarikan langsung cukup mahal. Akun ditinggal lama tidak masalah, tidak membutuhkan verifikasi ulang.

Upbit: UI cukup bersahabat, tapi saya hanya beberapa kali bertransaksi di upbit, kemudian akun tidak pernah dibuka. Nah kelemahannya adalah, jika akun sudah verifikasi, dan lama tidak dibuka, maka user diwajibkan untuk melakukan verifikasi ulang, makanya saya malas untuk bertransaksi disini,

Pintu: Mudah, proses WD juga cepat, cuma satu kelemahannya, kita tidak bisa memasang harga buy/sell sesuai pilihan kita sendiri. Aplikasi jadi mirip P2P di binance, ditentukan oleh penyedia.

Tokocrypto: Exchange yang satu ini mungkin akan menggeser tahta Indodax sebagai exchange crypto nomor 1 di Indonesia dalam waktu dekat. Selain adanya dukungan dari binance, saya masih belum menemukan kendala hang saat terjadi aktivitas jual beli yang tinggi. (mungkin saya kelewatan). Kemudian, dukungan token yang mereka miliki akan mampu membuat exchange ini mengeluarkan fitur-fitur baru yang akan memudahkan pengguna.

Sejauh ini, tokocrypto menjadi exchange lokal yang saya pilih setelah mencoba beberapa exchange yang saya disebutkan.

Sisanya dari list, saya tidak pernah menggunakan/mendaftar
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 22, 2021, 01:50:49 PM
I'm really curious to see what will happen at Barcelona in the next 2-3 months. If the data from Transfermarkt is correct, the contracts from Pedri, Fati and Dembele expire next season.

Barcelona couldn't extend with Messi due to financial issues, I am not sure if they will be able to afford extending contracts with all of these players.

All of them are young and will be interesting to other clubs and these clubs can start to officially negotiate with the players on January 1st - meaning that they already started negotiations in the background.

Pedri will extend - that's almost sure. But the other 2 will be hard to keep.

After the fans can return to support club in the stadium, the club's finances will slowly start to improve, they get money from ticket sales that could not be obtained last season. Indeed, money from ticket will not be much, at least the sponsors will also start thinking about marketing their products in Barcelona, even though there is no Messi, but they are still a big club.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 22, 2021, 01:21:25 PM
Intermilan, Napoli and AC Milan have so far managed to achieve perfect results in the league without even tasting defeat, I think that unbeaten record is likely to continue in the next few matches because all three will still face teams that are relatively weaker than them, for this week match I think udinese will be a difficult opponent for roma, although udinese have only won 2 wins but so far their performance in the league is also quite impressive, moreover they have only experienced one defeat just like roma.

The result from Inter Milan match made me have to rethink the prediction of Inter failure. when they make S. Inzaghi as coach, I think Inter Milan will have a hard time to be able to maintain their performance and to keep their title this season. But I was wrong, in the first few games in Serie A, Inter Milan becomer productive team. This will give S. Inzaghi a chance to get his first title in Serie A if he manages to maintain Inter consistency.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- Group Stage! on: September 21, 2021, 03:12:50 PM
Considering the next matches, Juventus - Chelsea match could be one of the interesting ones. As you all know, Juventus have been having a bad period for a long time. They still have no win in the Serie A. But they started the Champions League good at least by defeating Malmo 3-0 away. But Malmo are not a big opponent of course. We will see them against Chelsea too. Chelsea have had an awesome form recently. They are destroying their opponents one by one. Their last victim was Tottenham. And I think that Juventus will be the another victim even if it is a home match for Juventus. I think that Chelsea will defeat them by one goal.

Malmo very often underperforming in the UCL history, so Juventus victory is not because Juventus have returned to their best form, but because malmo are too weak for them. If we are looking from against AC Milan in the last match, despite the good performance from Maignan, Juventus still had a hard to winning the game and only managed to get 1 point. As against Chelsea, Juventus can lose their confidence considering Chelsea have performed better since last season, and as the reigning UCL champions. This is an advantage for Chelsea to beat Juventus.
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