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201  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading tokens or coins, which one is better or gives more profits? on: February 01, 2024, 05:56:02 PM
I've tried both of them and it was hard to determine which one because it also depends on the coins/tokens trade value. Sometimes tokens are profitable and sometimes also coins, depending on the situation and market status. So many factors to consider and one is hype, you'll be rich when got the right coin/token but during the crisis, never expect any of them to showcase great results.

Either of the two, high volatility seems to be important and acts as the multiplier. The higher the bigger chance.
I do not really see the difference when the ranks go down as well. Like some coin that is 65th ranked and token 66th ranked should not really have that much difference. Just because one has its own chain and the other doesn't can't really put any difference into them. At the very top we have just coins, which shows that people like to invest heavily into things that have their own chain, not all but 99% of them are like that, so it should be important to be a coin to get super high.

But if it is not high right now, then it means it didn2t get that much attention from the people neither. Letting it be is a lot more important, decide on its merits and not really based on its chain, that way you would be able to find ones that are actually good.
202  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin is the only currency that has grown the most!! on: February 01, 2024, 04:30:03 PM
bitcoin has already proven a lot in this market, remaining the top position in more than a decade in this market. so yeah, we don't need to think about its potential but to what price level it can reach. so long there are crypto users who are continuously supporting this market, then, it will continue to survive. worry if there are no more people talking about this market specifically this top currency.
Survival isnt a word for Bitcoin because with the security and supports we have managed to see the strength of this currency and does not need to survive because the market will not survive once this is doomed .
and about OP's thread title indeed that bitcoin is always the one that survives while the market is in Bloody color  so correct that will be the faith of the market.
I think it's clear that there are a lot of people who would like to see bitcoin not survive at all, and I bet that 99% of those people are either people who are hurt by what bitcoin gives to people (dictatorships and wall street etc) or they are people who missed out and don't have much and envy others who make profit from it.

Otherwise, who would really want to see bitcoin crash, there is really no reason that it would be all that bad, we should be considering the fact that bitcoin also helped a lot of people, so it should be something we promote and like. Remember, this may have existed in USA or UK and what not, but it also exists in very poor nations as well, helping those people make a great amount of money, and live a better life.
203  Economy / Economics / Re: China's economy is very sick. What to prepare for? on: February 01, 2024, 06:28:22 AM
If the state could not keep Evergrande afloat, and in fact it is letting an entire industry, and one of the key ones, go under the knife, it is an indicator that they are not doing well with money. At the same time, to save the market, they are even trying to "pull out" almost 300 billion dollars, mostly from the offshore accounts of Chinese state companies....
And millitarization and attempts to show "stability" require HUGE sums of money that will simply dissolve without benefiting the economy.
The outflow of investments, loss of markets (the most profitable ones), internal bankruptcies - this can hardly speak in favor of the phrase "they have money"
We are talking about a nation that is ruled by just one person, well not really a person but more like a party, but there is a central power, and they do whatever they want. So if they just print more money, pay the construction workers, and screw the inflation rate, they could actually make all those houses and put people in it. Their money would become worthless overnight, and maybe not zero, like not Argentina levels, they still have a ton of income, but they will lose a lot of value for sure, but they can handle it.

The problem here is not the fact that they can't, they can do it if they want to, but the problem is that it leads to one person making a decision that hurts everyone else. All the people who are not touched by this crisis will get ruined because of it as well.
204  Economy / Gambling / Re: QuitGamble.com - Free Help for Problem Gamblers on: January 31, 2024, 04:38:31 PM
This true, nobody can force you to change, but there are words, the right words, that can be said to you that will help you to come to conclusion that change is what you need. Good professionals know those words and that's why it's important to turn to them as soon as possible. Your close ones may wish you only good but they lack the knowledge of how to nudge you into taking the right steps. If someone wants to get rid of gambling addiction of their own free will, that's good, but if some doesn't have those intentions, there are still methods that can help him/her.
Yeah , back then I thought I knew everything about gambling but now that I totally understand the importance of professionals I kept telling my Addicted Cousin to try consulting or seeking Help from a clinic.
though up to now he kept denying yet I will not stop to ask Him and help him get through this problem.
I do, I mean I can definitely see the difference as well and I understand what's wrong. Studying psychology has helped me understand getting some perspective into peoples emotions. So when you get addicted, usually there are a few things that causes it, and I assume that mine is feeling the emptiness of life, I do not feel like I have a purpose in life, I just work, eat, sleep, and that's all that I do.

So, when I get addicted to something, I try to make that something of a personality trait for myself, like I am a gambler, that's how I am ,Ronaldo is a footballer, Bill Gates is a billionaire, Elon Musk is weird, and I am a gambler. That's why I saw that and I had a chance to stop being like that because I understand what caused it eventually.
205  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Trading on your own vs social trading and copy trading on: January 31, 2024, 01:30:22 PM
Just like everyone mentioned, trading your own is a lot better than all of this. The idea that you could make your own money without the helps of anyone else is important because it will give you a way to get better forever. The good old "do not give a man fish, teach him how to fish" part is the most important part. If you end up teaching him how to fish then he will just be able to do it better. In this case, nobody will teach you how to fish, so you have to go out and learn it on your own.

Spending time on becoming better is a difficult one, many people are missing that and it should be important to keep trying no matter how long it takes in order to become a good trader yourself, it may take months, even years, but you should keep trying.
It is not really "difficult" to become better trader yourself, but it takes time and most people do not want to spend time on it, that's the main problem. I understand the feeling, it may feel like you do not want to spend any time on it, but the reality is that you are going to end up spending long time on becoming better.

Not because it's hard, it's actually not that difficult to become a good trader and the only reason it takes so much time is because there are so many things to learn. While you learn them quickly and easily it doesn't mean that it will be quick overall because when you put in many tiny easy things back to back for months it's still months that you have to spend on learning how to be better at trading.
206  Economy / Speculation / Re: Best time to buy Bitcoin now and before the Bitcoin Halving: April 22, 2024 on: January 30, 2024, 06:00:42 PM
For investor they not thinking about the best time for investing in bitcoin before the halving upcoming two months later, they have faith with bitcoin the best investment assets in the future and keep accumulate bitcoin every moment have without take care price up or down. I have difference way for investing in bitcoin although as long term profitable target but left 20% of my fiat hold to buy back when bitcoin price drop drastically.
Its not matter with close halving or not because the best time for investing in bitcoin depend on price of bitcoin not close halving or not.
I think if some one have planning with bitcoin halving to invest in bitcoin they will not interested yet keep accumulate bitcoin investment after halving time and afraid with bitcoin get potential have lower price.
That is sort of what I do as well, I do not really look at the daily prices, and even if I do, I do not loo kat it for any other purpose than just being there and being active on it, not for trading purposes at all. I think it's quite clear that not many people would be able to do that. Long term holders do make good income if they can actually achieve to hold for long and keep on accumulating, I know plenty of people who did nothing but just keep holding their coins and in return they made some great income, from multiple different coins and tokens.

However, trading doesn't mean it's bad, or worse, you could make a lot more money that way as well, it all just depends on how good you are as a trader and that's it, if you are decent, you can make money there too.
207  Economy / Speculation / Re: 112 days waiting for bitcoin halving!! on: January 30, 2024, 04:43:44 PM
Many investors have waited for years for the bull run to arrive so that they can all reap the benefits of their long-term investment and patience. Speculators believe that this year's bull run will reach a new all-time high by 2025. Many people see this year as the year of halving, with the hope that the price of bitcoin will continue to rise until 2025, when many believe it will reach a new all-time high. As we wait for this grey day to arrive, the next step for bitcoin enthusiasts will be to collect more bitcoins to hold in their portfolios in order to stand a chance to win big at the bull run too.
Yes, many have waited for another bull run, but it's either they are going to continue to HODL and not sell yet in this bull run. Or there could be HOLDers who will immediately dump once we reach all time high or at least sell which they think could be the top price.

So it's either we are very excited or there are investors who think that this is just another year for them to accumulate despite if it is a bull run or not. That is the mentality that we wanted, as this early birds still have the patience years after years.
We are going to ignore all those people I can guarantee you that. When the price goes up enough that it breaks over ATH price, there could be some sellers and that will be true, I am not doubting them, they will sell, but because we would have such a huge FOMO wind behind us that we are going to ignore all that and the market will not stop for a second, it will continue to go up.

I believe that we are going to end up with a result that will benefit everyone, it should be a lot more important. I get that life isn't fair to those who sell and see it go up, but they are the ones who made that decision. Same with people who sold before 45k, they saw it going down, and there were some who sold even under 20k, that is their own mistake.
208  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe in gambling experts predictions? on: January 30, 2024, 01:15:52 PM
Sometimes people don't have time to analyze the events they want to bet on themselves and as such they want a quick approval for their bets,in such case these experts can be a good validator,you can check their picks and see how they relate to what you would have opted in.I personally I am one of such persons which don't have time to study my bets so I go to the section of my favorite casino where I can copy other people bets,I see what people are playing there and I copy the bets which I agree with them.
Or really just that simply lazy and this is why they would really be that loving on trying out to follow someone whom they do believe that it could really make them having that kind of advantage or simply being that profitable on their ways of betting. This is why there are those people who are really that loving on following someone and there are ones who do fully trust up their own bets which came up from their analysis on which i could say that this is much more preferable rather than on making yourself that making your bets basing up on someones picks. If it turns out to be profitable on your
end then you would normally be continuing but on the time that you would be losing then this is where blaming time would really be starting.
The trust that someone else could make you money is beyond understandable to me. I mean there is a "possibility" for sure, I am not saying anything against that, but that doesn't mean that it will make sense at that point. I think it should be considered not a smart move and should be considered something that may take some time, so we shouldn't really put any pressure into it.

I believe that the best thing to do at this moment would be just considering how we could move further, and if we could do fine, then it will definitely benefit, but just focus on what you can do. If you can lose money yourself, then there is no need for others to help you losing anyway, and I can guarantee you, 99% of the people out there will just make you lose money.
209  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Trend or long term projects? on: January 30, 2024, 06:16:33 AM
Crypto is mostly unexpected and we don't know which token will give us high profit. sometimes we expect a big pump in the token and we believe that this project has a lot of potential but this token performance remains low throughout bull and bear season just like DOT and Cardano while some coins we often called them scam and spam pumped hard like ORDI, Pepe, Floki. It's all about trend when trend end then no one want to buy these coins.

What is your suggestions about profit from altcoins. Should we rely on only buying long term projects or we should invest according to trend despite of looking that trends coin will have no value in future?
Dear, I think We should go for long-term investment only in good projects like those projects that have strong use cases and the team is working actively on the ecosystem and collaborating with other good projects i think these kinds of projects return us good projects.

Well, honestly Investing in altcoin is the risky part or we should invest in it being so picky I have only a few altcoins in my portfolio the dominating investment in my portfolio is bitcoin I only invest some amount in altcoins.
This is definitely the best way to invest and I have been doing this for a long time. Too many people invest into silly projects and end up expecting it to make a good profit, but the reality is that we are not going to get that type of return that easily.

Most of the time, we should be considering it not doing all that well, and that is why it is going to end up with a lot of trouble. I know that it is going to have some troubles here and there, which should be a bit of a problem eventually, but that should be fine in the end if you pick something solid. Bitcoin may not be an altcoin but it is a great example of what a solid project is, because it is doing as well as people could hope for and you should invest into stuff like that.
210  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You must have a source on: January 29, 2024, 04:59:02 PM
Understandable; thank you for making it clear. From your initial post along with the loan request, you were passing this vibe. Excuse me for misunderstanding and making assumptions. Anyway, I only wanted to point out the significance of budgeting and separating your cryptocurrency investments from your fiat money. A case similar to what you first described wouldn't be the first one we'd hear in the forum. The validity of these stories remains unclear, but it was a common occurrence to read similar cases from newbies on the forum; I remember reading quite a few during the bear market approximately a year ago.
Usually, I do not invest all my savings in Bitcoin. I always keep some stablecoins and fiat money for emergencies. My average income is well enough for me and my family. But, you should look at the reason I already told you. I guess nobody wants to miss the bull run. I have lost some money in the past because of my own mistake. I wanted to be early on the market and my average buying price is 27K.

So, I consider my investment to be great so far. I will take some profit during the bull run and everything will be okay. I didn't even know that I was going to start a business. Suddenly, I found a store that is for sell and I don't want to miss this chance as well. So yeah, that's where I am right now.
I believe that when you are getting in early like that, its actually quite good and there should be something that benefits you in the end. You are already at profit, but we all know that's not enough because we know that bitcoin price will keep going higher, and should be better, we need to just consider that as the most important part.

I believe that if you can hold a bit longer, then you will make a lot more profit when bitcoin price goes to 100k+ levels. I do not know when that will happen, but I am sure that eventually one day that will happen and that should be 4x profit for you. Considering how that is not that easily possible in the stock market or anything else, if you can do that within 2 years that should be great for you.
211  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ⚽ Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: January 29, 2024, 06:16:00 AM
European players who have many awards and many achievements will be accepted in any league, the Arab league is indeed the final place for several star players because they will get high salaries in the Arab league. Neymar, Benzema are also in the Arab League and they are becoming new stars there. Actually there is nothing wrong, this is just a cycle that will continue. they will continue to be productive players even though they are not in Europe.
Benzema is not a star in the Saudi Professional League. He is 7th in the goal scorer list and he wants to leave the league if that is true. But I don't think he is still a considered a star like he was one when he left Europe. If a FIFA world player comes to a weak league like the Saudi Professional League, I think that the fans expect more from a striker like him than he is doing for Al-Ittihad.

Even the salaries aren't that convincing because I think there should be more to a decision than just the salary. In case of Benzema it was said that he is so happy because he is Muslim, but now they say he is unhappy. He should have known better, but I don't know what's actually true about those stories.
I feel like it is not about him being a star or not, the reason he wants to leave is because he thinks the team is not good and he is not getting what he wants. You are saying he is 7th, and he is saying he would have been at the top or at least second place if he had proper team, it is not even just about players, even the training is different.

There was a video at the start of the season showing people training, players that were from there didn't even understand the training well and did all wrong moves, these are the professional athletes that are playing alongside him, and he did it perfectly. Because others were raised there and got training there, so they knew nothing, whereas Benzema played for Madrid and he got the best training and everything. So all in all, if he goes, he will go to a decent team, and he will play much better.
212  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Have you been able to win a game given to you in the dream? on: January 28, 2024, 03:55:25 PM
A dream is a dream, that's it. Although in some people's dreams, they might find a hint tips on what they should do in reality, it's not the case that mostly happened to everyone.
No doubt, a dream is a dream, and paying deaf ears or blind eyes to the fact that dreams come through will be shying away from reality. The fact that everyone will not experience this doesn't mean it is a fallacy.

I want to bring to our notice the fact that inspiration can come through different means and dream is one of such. So, what we see in our dreams shouldn't be taken for granted. Some stories appear fictional but then it is reality.

I will share an online story I read. A gambler from Kenya who won mega million in the lotto shared that the numbers that gave him the winning were given to him by a madman. A lot of people might see this as a social media stunt but it might have happened. 
He just said it. Dream is a dream. So those who said they win because they saw the procedures in their dream, were maybe just lucky, or there is a co-incident that occurred. How many times we saw a lucky number on our dream, or a game to be played and we end up trying it, only to get disappointed on the result that we get?

This is why I just bet normally, with less expectation on my mind because "gambling is also gambling". I think you guys already know what I mean when I say those phrase Wink. Being inspired is okay but except from playing gambling in the casino. Again, we can refer to what I have said earlier for this.
213  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin Island in the Philippines, Have you ever been there? on: January 28, 2024, 02:28:41 PM
Im in the Philippines but I cant still afford to get right there not financially of course other things matter, if this is widely accepted in their place and sure it will attract the people and travellers who are using crypto as their investment and of course, most of them have their device comes with that they can pay easily, I didn't see this kind of feature they are offering in the news, upon checking in the youtube right now there are a lot of tourists posted their thoughts with the BTC in Boracay and i guess its a good advertisement and attraction to the supporter of bitcoins too but did they already support other coins because market sometimes getting congested.
If it is not financial, may I ask why you weren't able to go? And, if it is ever possible one day, would it be acceptable for you, to like... shoot a video there? I know there are some youtube ones, but they all look like marketing and shows the best, it would be great to see someone who shoot like streets and so forth to show the reality, like is it really good or not. I think it looks like a marvellous idea and it feels like it would be quite good for everyone.

I think it would benefit people and I believe that we should probably do something about it. I know that it is not going to be that easy, but it will probably be something that will benefit everyone. I know that life is not simple and you may not have the time to go there, but if you ever find the time and ever go there, at least some photos would be very lovely to see.
214  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do not use more than 2x leverage on: January 28, 2024, 09:24:31 AM
There are people that are using 10x leverage. What do you have to write about them and they are making profits from the market.
It is good when we understand what leverage really means and how we could leverage without hurting our account.
We need to take risk and when we win, people would call us successful. Understanding how risk works is a first step for us to be a winner in the market. We can always make money for ourselves without bothers.
You can use 150x and make profit too, if you can of course, the amount you are leveraging is not the problem here, you can use any type of amount and make any kind of profit, that is never the point. I think it is quite important to remember that we are going to lose a lot more quicker if we are wrong, that is the point of it.

I hope that it could get to a level where we could make some good return from it and 150x or 2x we both all win, but when the price is going the opposite direction, I rather be at 2x than be at 150x, that would make sense. I mean margin-wise, you can cover 2x very easily, whereas you can't really make that 150x at all. So, yeah there are people with 10x who make profit, but there are also many who doesn't.
215  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bullrun top on: January 27, 2024, 04:36:05 PM
The likes of BlackRock probably doesn't fully care whether there's a bull run or not. After all, whether the price increases or decreases, the fees will continue to flow. And that's where the money comes from. But a bull run is probably a big reason for investors to be bullish as well. More investment flows in. That's more fees, more money, as well.

These investment companies don't own the billions of dollars in Bitcoin they're holding. Those coins are not at their disposal. They can't just dump them whenever they want. It's not theirs.
That is exactly what the exchanges in the crypto world think as well, but for some reason people like them a lot more. When there is a bull run, people run to coinbase and binance and what not, thinking they are great places to make money, when in reality, the yare also the places most lose their money too, they work both ways. If there is a volume then there is a profit, they take money from the trading fee.

All in all, both blackrock and exchanges make more money during bull run, because in theory it has been proven that during bull run people trade more, so they get more trading fee, that means companies make more profit. They are not really happy that you are making a profit, but they are happy that price going up means they are getting more fee from you.
216  Economy / Economics / Re: richdad poordad has no more guide after achieving freedom on: January 27, 2024, 05:23:53 AM
Considering what works in our respective local environments is an important point that is quite useful in addition to learning to invest in assets that are already important in life. Because the benefits of utilizing what works from the environment around us can also be brought into future investments so that every opportunity will never be wasted and simply ignored. I also often take advantage of anything that can be an opportunity to earn daily income in life through the environment around me because it really helps me in terms of increasing my income in life.

So I think most people at this time have also implemented that because the moments in that environment will not always be the same so every opportunity must really be taken advantage of before other people get ahead of it. Moreover, in terms of the economy and increasing income, there is always competition that arises, so many people must be very aware of this in order to move more quickly so as not to be left behind by their own competitors.
It is definitely a difficult thing to take advantage of every chance when you have no money at all. So in that position, you put your hours to work, you are putting them up for sale. Your time will never get back, so when you work to earn income, you are selling that hour, not renting it, it is not even you that they are hiring, it is your hours in most cases.

Finding a job like that, finding income like that, is not that easy, because unless you are super talented, your hours may not worth a lot. You can be Hollywood superstar, and then your hours could worth a lot, but if you are like me, your hours may not worth much. So the best way to make money is always with money, if your money can make money, then it will always be worth a lot more than bare minimum wage income. Just try to have good investments, and they will earn for you.
217  Economy / Economics / Re: The savings problem on: January 26, 2024, 06:33:31 AM
We need holidays to breathe fresh air, right? Flip the script for a moment. Life isn't simply vacations. A mix of necessities, wants, and surprises. Foresight and renewal are essential. We construct for tomorrow as well as today

The kids saving just for vacations is a start, but there's more. Like chess with nature, life's unpredictable. You've got to think several steps ahead. Savings aren't simply for enjoyment; they protect you from life's surprises. Emergencies like health crises aren't maybes. The main challenge is teaching kids balanced saving. It's about being present but focused on the future. Help children see savings as a foundation for a strong, well-rounded life, not just a means to an end
Most people forget about tomorrow, but I am also against forgetting about today. If you keep working towards a tomorrow that may never come, so that your children will live a better life you will forfeit your life all together. You should balance it out, you shouldn't live just for today, but you shouldn't live for just tomorrow neither. You should live the best life you possibly could while saving for tomorrow, find that balance, put some aside, and spend the rest so that your life had some meaning.

I may go one way or the other time to time, but these days, I am just living for debt, but when that's over, I will try to balance as much as I can. I like to live a good life, while also putting some aside every single month for the future.
218  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: January 25, 2024, 06:53:21 PM
Regardless of the narrow or big wins that Juventus has achieved since the start of the season, it must be admitted that Juventus' performance this season is quite well organized in all areas and they are also quite consistent, I don't see any empty gaps in the current Juventsu team and regarding line criticism Juventus' lack of sharpness is illogical because there is no way they can win the match if their front line performance is poor.
In terms of quality and consistency, the Juventus and Inter Milan teams are quite equal at the moment and indeed in terms of the percentage of winning the Scudetto this season, I also think that both teams still have the same chance.
I do agree that they have done well enough, and that is showing right now with the fact that they are in the first place, it's true that Inter has one more game to play, and may take over, but even in that case they would be second place only.

One loss or a tie from Inter, and Juventus could find themselves at the top for good. That is always a good move, and looking at how many goals they scored, they are tied for for third place, it's true that they do not score as much as some of the other teams, being 3rd or 4th in scoring while being at the top of the standings only shows one thing, which is the fact that they are second in least goals conceded. Inter may look better when they win, but Juventus wins just as much and that's what matters.
219  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Suggest Some Underrated potential altcoins for next bull run on: January 25, 2024, 04:28:51 PM
I gonna to share some name of listing my favorite altcoins like bnb, poolz, ada, ton and also like eth. Another you can buy bitcoin if you have big assets because only bitcoin will give you 5x very easy. You may know there are many altcoins which couldn’t gainer from bull market so as like you should choice on your mind.
What is poolz?is this a legit project?as just now that I have heard this project and indeed those others that you mentioned are good coins to invest with and yes I have 3 of those that have been sitting in my folio for years now but willing to invest in other project that I may find has potential.
I think he is talking about this crypto right here: https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/poolz-finance . It is seems legit since it was listed on a lot of top crypto exchangers, and then the coin had some nice volumes (it's over a million). Although as CoinMarketCap have said, there was an exploit that happened and the coin have migrated to a new token contract.

I guess that new version is safe now? Still, always invest at your own risk guys. As we don't know if maybe the hackers are still on this project. Not only on this project anyway but to all cryptos too. So let's be careful and watch out for the signs, so that we can secure our funds immediately before the hackers deplete all of it.
220  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do they managed ? on: January 25, 2024, 03:18:32 PM
It depends on those who are accepting Bitcoin, I suspect that most of them will change the Bitcoin back to stable coin instantly right after the transaction is successful while some will want to hold, this is something I use to do before the high transaction fee made me stop, right now I prefer accepting Fiat and use that to buy some Bitcoin on Binance until I am ready to move the Bitcoin back into my hardware wallet.

Right now, my customers who are used to paying me with Bitcoin have changed their minds since the high transaction fee on Bitcoin Network, it's pretty hard to accept Bitcoin as means of payment now because many customers wont be ready to pay you using Bitcoin, they would rather use other means and hold their Bitcoin.

Bitcoin as a payment option only makes sense if the product they want to buy is very high in value, like in thousand of dollars then using $10 per transaction will be good or even more, but trying to buy anything in the hundred of dollars makes no sense to many and I don't blame them.
You could very well accept bitcoin directly into your exchange account, which means that you would be able to actually make any type of situation that would be just trading fee. If you get bitcoin to your binance account for example, you can trade between btc to usdt right away, and pay a very very few tiny amount for trading fee, insignificant amount to you, and you will be fine. I am not saying they all do that, I am just saying that this is one of the possibilities and shouldn't really be a trouble.

I believe that the best thing we could do at this moment would be just realizing that we are going to end up with a greater return one way or another, and should keep it going as much as we possibly could go for as long as possible.
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